BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 August 17, 2026

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0:03 – 0:0710 turns

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:13

Good evening and welcome to the City Council meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order, the time is now 530. Madam Clerk please take roll.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:23

Council Member Gama?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:25

Here.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:25

Council Member Lopez? Here. Council Member Perez? Here Mayor McQueen-Lachon? Mayor McQueen-Lachon? Sorry here. Let the record reflect that Mayor Pro Tem Hernandez is absent

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:38

Okay, great. Thank you. We'll now hear public comments related to the closed session item. Comments will be limited to three minutes and we have a total of 10 minutes for closed session comments. If you are participating in the Zoom please use the raise hand feature. Madam Clerk are there any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:55

We have two in-person public comments. The first one is Chris Bates followed by Anai Carter

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:17

Madam Mayor, members of the council, city staff. First some simple math. Person A makes $100 a day and person B makes $1,000 a day and both receive a 10% increase although the percentage increase is the same person B still receives more money so why would their increase need to be a higher percentage? Last year, the City told our bargaining team that there was only 2% available for SEIU that year and to expect none the next. Our team understanding the city's financial situation accepted that in good faith only to learn that another bargaining unit, the PD got 6% over the same time frame Despite already being significantly higher paid.

We were told that was because the police rearranged their budget, cut their unfilled positions and that the increase was paid for by this. We rearranged our budget lost positions and delayed projects but that money went to the general fund not to us both units made cuts but only the members of one felt the pain We are not here today to ask that we be paid the same as every bargaining unit. We are not here today to say that we must have the same level of perks as every bargaining unit, but an equal percentage increase in salary is a reasonable ask. Even with that, we still receive a smaller piece of the pie.

Thank you for your time.

CommentAnai CarterProposed · by introduction5:52

Good evening all, mine will be quick and simple. As you know SEIU members have been working without a contract for almost two months During that time we have still shown up and daily operations have continued with good faith The past tentative agreement was voted down but continued negotiations were not The fiscal director was able to give us a current budget presentation and we were able to comprehend the city's concerns.

We understood the city says resources are limited, but the presentation gave us reason to believe there may be room for further negotiation. We are not asking for council to negotiate contract tonight. We are asking council to allow the people at the negotiating table enough authority and flexibility to reach one. Thank you. That concludes public comment.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role6:46

Great, thank you. Mr. City Attorney can you please read the closed session item into the record?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:51

Yes, we'll be going into closed session tonight regarding two matters. Both of which are a conference with labor negotiators pursuant to government code section 54957.6. The first is with the SEIU Service Employees International Union 721. The second would be regarding the unrepresented management and professional employees. Both will be represented by the agency by James Vega, the city manager and Charles Peretz, the deputy city manager with Frank Lee, the human resources risk manager And we'll report back if there's anything to report.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role7:24

Great, thank you Do any other members of the council have any conflicts of interest to disclose for the listed closed session items? Okay, we will now recess to close session the time is now 533 or 34 sorry

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:04:55

Everyone, we're going to call to order the City Council regular meeting. So we're going to call it to order at 632. Please stand for the flag salute. Council Member Lopez if you could lead us.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction1:05:08

Right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:05:15

of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:05:25

Thank you. Okay, Madam Clerk please take a roll.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:05:32

Council Member Gama? I'm here. Council Member Lopez? Here. Council Member Perez? Here. Mayor McQueen-Lajon? Here. And let the record reflect that Mayor Pro Tem Hernandez is absent.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:05:42

Great thank you and we will now move to Council Member Gama for the inspiration.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:05:50

Thank you. We just concluded Parks and Recreation Month, I believe. It's the month of July and our Parks and Recreation Department has been very inspirational and I want to highlight some of the youth engagements that they've Enacted Six years ago. We had a change of management in parks and recreation and since that time there's been an explosion of youth engagements and I have a challenge for everybody in this room I'm gonna run through these and my hope is that each and every one of us gets a smile on her face Okay, so here we go Touch a truck touch a truck is something that I think the city of Port Hueneme Parks and Recreation Department Invented and others now are doing it throughout the county And it's a wonderful event if you haven't been to it, and we'll be having it again.

I think in October Here's some more truck. You can see that the kids are super engaged, super involved and one of the things that we know is that when you engage youth at a young age you're creating potential successful people. Holiday season in Port Hueneme is another big engagement. We have a tree lighting ceremony, we had a pancake breakfast this year. Again, we even have snow in Hueneme if you could believe that and the kids get to sled on snow and we do lighting, we do coloring. And we also have a senior holiday luncheon which is really fun and very well attended. And again this is all being done by our Parks and Recreation Department.

Ballet classes, who would have thought in the city of Port Hueneme there's an active ballet program? But there is. And the little girls and guys really like to dance it up. I think they performed at our holiday luncheon. Pancake Breakfast was a hit again. This was another event that we hadn't done before and it was very well attended. A lot of kids and it was really great.

See splash color dash. I mean look at all these engagements, so I would be I would have to estimate that we've had probably 22,000 or more Engagements and I picked that number because that's the population of the city of Port Hueneme over the last six years And so we've really gone out and done some innovative things in there, and this is one of them There's two things that I didn't get photos on, and that's s'mores at the beach and movies at the beach. Now, the movies at the beach and the movies in the parks is another example of high engagement, and we're probably in the thousands of participants there. But 5K is a wonderful event for kids.

Easter extravaganza, another wonderful time for kids. And we have petting zoo and just all these great little activities to again engage our kids, engage them with the community, bring them into the parks which we've renovated are looking great. Again, I like to try to focus on seeing kids smile and the kids just have a great time even when they're waiting in line.

More egg extravaganza. So there's a couple things I didn't get pictures of and like the kite festivals another new thing where kids are coming out and flying kites, s'mores on the beach, the pumpkin free pumpkin giveaway. Our parks. Parks make life better and we've just rejuvenated our parks, so we got a lot of kids playing in the parks every day which is wonderful And this was our grand opening at Miranda Park Memorial Day and Veteran Days again This is our Parks and Rec Department working really hard to bring good programming to the city It's really important We moved it to the pier. We get great attendance We invite our Navy partners and other partners in the county to come and join with us. We really appreciate them coming out, moving it to the beach I think was a really great idea.

And then we lay a reef of course we have the paddle outlet by the lifeguards which is really nice. This one who could forget the parade? Come on everybody loves a parade right? And this is a super relevant, we lost Orvin Carpenter. He was our Grand Marshal at the parade and we had two Grand Marshals at the parade and the other one was Tony and Barbara Volante and we lost Tony recently too so.

There's another picture of our paddle out, and so I say the inspiration comes from Parks and Recreation team. And I wanna thank them for all the effort they do to create engagement with the youth of our community. And think our community is way better because of them.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:11:09

Great, thank you Council Member. We'll move to Mr. City Attorney please provide the closed session report?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:11:15

There was no reportable action in tonight's closed session.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:11:17

Okay, we'll move to public comments not related to the agenda items Are there any public comments? We'll have three minutes for each comment and if you're participating on zoom Please use the raise hand feature madam clerk any public comments

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:11:33

Yes, we have several in-person public comments first is Becky Bruning followed by Mark Petrosso

PresenterBecky BruningRoquepee Outdoors tonightProposedself-stated1:11:46

Good evening Mayor, Council Members, staff and audience. My name is Becky Bruning and I'm here representing Roquepee Outdoors tonight. Last month Kevin and I took three interns to Florida and we ended up with two sponsors out of that trip so it was a fantastic trip for us and this Sunday we will be out at the end of Hueneme Pier 8 to 11 for our family fish day.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:12:16

Mark.

CommentMark PetrassoProposedself-stated1:12:24

Good evening Madam Mayor, members of the council and city staff. My name is Mark Petrasso I am a full-time year round resident at Surfside 4 that's the condo complex across from the pier Tonight i'm here to talk about what's been an increasing risk to public safety that's happening in that parking lot at the pier During the day it's a beautiful beach and a beautiful park and a parking lot that's Been packed this year, bringing great revenue to the city.

At night it becomes an entirely different story. At night it turns into the Port Hueneme version of the Pomona Raceway where people are burning out in the parking lot doing donuts in the parking lot revving their engines very loud To me that's an increase to public safety those folks are not stunt drivers and they're not professional drivers And if they're driving like that in a parking lot with other participants and also spectators, there's a real good chance somebody could get hurt and hurt badly.

So that's the number one concern is the increase to public safety. The number two concern is it's impeding the quality of life not only for Surfside 4 residents but for everybody on Surfside and Surfside Drive where they also perform their stunts late in the evening The other thing that's been occurring at the beach, not necessarily now but it still occurs more at the 4th of July is the constant setting off of fireworks which is very dangerous to the folks that are doing that and you can only keep up so much trying to catch those folks.

So those are the public safety and noise concerns that I have and you know I don't know what the city can do I'm a retired municipal finance executive. I was in your world for 30 years, I understand Our police department is professional Everyone I've ever encountered in public is courteous and not only acts like a professional police officer but also a neighbor But I'm sure that their resources are stretched a tad thin So if we could do something to increase patrol in that parking lot in the evening, one option is the use of a decoy surplus police vehicle that could park in that parking lot.

Nobody's going to take the time to see if there's somebody in that they're just going to see that it's there and then they'll move on and hopefully not get hurt or hurt anybody else So I wanted to bring this up. I thank you for your time and thank you for all you do for the city. Good evening.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:15:12

Thank

CommentMark PetrassoProposedself-stated1:15:12

you

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:15:14

Next is Josie Gonzalez on just

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:15:16

one second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:15:17

Yeah, we may have other comments on that topic but I will just note up front and I think the council is aware that we have worked with the police department on trying to make sure we have some regular patrols on Sunrise. There's been some posts on Facebook and things where we've actually been able to impound vehicles and things like that. And so we put a focus on that and on the fireworks and then I did meet with the police department Over the last couple weeks, and we are talking about using some decoy vehicles So we are sort of aware and working with the Police Department. I'm trying to come up with some ideas as well But I'm sure we'll have other comments on that topic.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:15:56

Great. Thank

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:15:57

you Josie Gonzales and Kim Pika you would be after Sorry

CommentJosie GonzalezProposedself-stated1:16:06

Thank you for your attention, and I would like to echo some of the sentiments of the last speaker. My name is Josie Gonzalez, and I'm also a resident of Surfside 4. So I'd like to address the many city ordinances that are being violated every day and how they have a tremendous impact on our sanity. But I also would like to make some recommendations for you folks. I know that the police department is short staffed, so I have some recommendations That you folks can implement now. So related to the ordinances that are being violated, 4,009 disturbances any unruly noise no tooting blowing or sounding of any auto sirens signals or noise making devices I think the other speaker talked about the speeding cars The amplified noise is a big, big problem.

So ordinance 3436 states no amplified noise. There's loud music not just at night there's music on the pier, on the beach, on the parking lot I mean, I love mariachi music. I just went to a mariachi festival in Albuquerque a few weeks ago but I don't want to hear loud mariachi music all day long and particularly not late in the evening so then there are parking lot related violations 4 0 1 8 says no loitering between 10 p.m and dawn, and then 40 19 m no parking of any vehicle outside of the time in hours posted that means after 10 p m after 10 p p m it's like a full parking lot over there and no engaging in riotous and boisterous language no speeding And a favorite one of mine that I have complained about in writing and personally here before you is no motorized vehicles on the pier, including bikes and scooters.

Thank you for passing an ordinance related to that about a year ago but there still is a big issue. And these motorized e-bikes and so forth it's not just a problem here in Port Hueneme. I hear about it, I read about it Throughout the United States and New York City. And it really is a serious health concern. There are children on that pier, there's elderly, there's folks in wheelchairs. It's an accident waiting to happen.

So what are my recommendations? I think the public needs to be aware of these ordinances. They need to know that first of all, these ordinances exist. The no amplified noise is an ordinance that exists. That there are consequences for the violations of these ordinances and then you have to articulate what are these consequences So there's community outreach, there is just- Finish

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:19:13

your sentence.

CommentJosie GonzalezProposedself-stated1:19:13

I sure will and then there's inadequate signage, completely inadequate. I've got some pictures of the signage relating to the motorized vehicles but it's completely

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:19:24

faded. Thank you so much

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:19:36

Good evening, everyone. I don't want to hound on this issue but I think both these speakers really gave you a picture of what's happening and lived here since the 80s. It's living at the beach, you expect noise, you expect to have fun and the things you presented that's what we love, the races The kids at the beach, the surfers, the fishermen are phenomenal. You know we love our people, we love our community but the nighttime 10 to dawn it's truly a problem I'm not saying that to be annoying or picky It's become scary. I have video for you guys if you'd like to see them I will show them to privately but you can tell where I live so I don't want them public Lots of photos, scary stuff going on there's it's not just the noise and the revving Explosions and our animals are freaking out, but we're having fireworks thrown at our places now We're having Drug deals there's cabs in there with people going in and out of those cabs.

There's some nefarious things happening So just wanted to add that also we've spoken I'm so pleased to have spoken with the chief and he's unbelievably supportive We're just trying to figure out what will work I'm the empty cars will be noticed immediately just putting that out there These guys are there's lots full and there's lots going on. So Not to belabor this issue, but it is truly a problem And we're getting a little bit nervous that it's gonna become bigger and bigger and bigger So thank you again for your time and attention

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:21:12

Thank You

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:21:13

David Scribner and then Dede Beeman

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:21:21

Good evening. Three things I'd like to talk about, so I've got to do it real quick. So the first one is the truck traffic and the speeding at Hueneme and Ventura Road is getting completely out of control again. These trucks are charging through that intersection 40 plus miles an hour. Speed limit's 30 there. I live in Surfside Village, I'm close to that. I haven't seen any enforcement.

I can't even remember when I saw somebody being pulled over for any of this. We've had a series of really bad accidents at that corner. Some of them cars, some of them trucks were headed for another disaster here if something doesn't happen so Would really encourage stronger enforcement, start pulling these people over, writing them up. Whatever you can do, I don't know.

Second thing, we had a slight discussion of this already. The e-bike stuff is getting to be kind of problematic at this point. Unfortunately like with most things technology outpaces society's ability to figure out what to do about it and we now have most people riding around on e-bikes are quite fine they don't present a problem But the scooters now go 30 miles an hour. A lot of these e-bikes will do 30, 40 miles an hour. People are speeding up and down the bike paths.

The other day some woman was walking on the bike path by a Anyway ahead of me and this guy chases through there on an e-bike almost runs her dog over she Says something to him and he cusses around flips her off and keeps going I mean, so you have a minority of people who need to be contained somehow And I'd really urge a speed limit On how you enforce it by the way But a posted speed limit that says you can't go faster than 10 miles an hour on the bike path or the promenade Okay The other let's give me the other thing is we're having some difficulty with these young kids on pulling wheelies and charging people on the bike path They come right at you that in doing a wheelie. They pull away at the last second If they feel like you're going to get run over Nobody's run me over yet, but I've had some close calls So I would think maybe some ordinance that says you can't do wheelies on The bike path.

Anyway, last thing Miranda Park had its issues It's been cleaned up and we're in a lot better shape right now And a big part of it is they put up gates So at night the ten o'clock or nine o'clock the gates get shut and we don't have people hanging around in that park I think that would really work well at parking lot a and Save some money because you don't have to pay police to follow up on it Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:24:27

Good evening. Good evening Mayor, council members and staff. My name is DeeDee and I have lived in Port Hueneme the last 13 years. I saw an endorsement for Council Member Hernandez and it caused me to think. Council persons need to have good judgment and need to keep personal feelings out of the public square When Councilmember Hernandez filed a small claims defamation suit against Chief Michael Federico, she filed her claim in the wrong venue.

Most people know small claims is generally intended for straightforward monetary disputes rather than complex litigation. Ms. Hernandez's public filing included Chief Federico's home address Under California law, a police officer's home address is protected from unauthorized disclosure. It is my understanding that California law requires a judge's permission to disclose the personal information of Chief Federico in the worst case scenario such as such disclosure could cause harm to our chief and his family Either Ms. Hernandez did this intentionally or did not understand what she was doing, regardless she placed our chief in danger and the rest of our community.

Whatever the case was with her intentions it shows extremely poor judgment Persons with poor judgment should not be in positions of power as it puts our community at risk. It concerns me that Ms. Hernandez allows her personal bias to interfere with her judgment. We need council members who are focused on what is best for the city of Port Hueneme. Regardless of her intentions, being malicious or not, her actions show she has extremely poor judgment.

Poor judgment is not a quality we need in our city council members. With regards to the endorsements Ms. Fernandez has received, are those endorsements encouraging her poor judgment? Thank you.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:27:07

Great, thank you. Did you have something? Go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:09

ahead. So I'll just reiterate since there were multiple speakers on the parking lot A topic so I just want to reiterate that we have talked recently about the use of decoy vehicles so I'll follow up with the police department on that and then we'll also follow up on other measures that can be looked at for that area. Okay,

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:27:27

thank you. Thank you. So we're going to move onto the approval of the agenda for this evening. May I have a motion and a second for the approval?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:27:36

Move to approve.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:27:37

Second. Great, thank you Madam Clerk please take roll.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:27:40

All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Hearing none motion passes unanimously.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:27:45

Great do we have any council members that have a conflict of interest to disclose for any of the items on the agenda if not we're going to move on to presentations for the first presentation we have our deputy city manager Charles Peretz Mr. Peretz is coming for the quarterly employee recognition.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:28:10

Good evening Mayor, Council Members, members of the public, City staff. Tonight we gather for our latest quarterly employee recognition where we celebrate the dedication and commitment of our employees. Two employees were scheduled to be recognized this evening, both for reaching the milestone of 30 years of service with the city. Unfortunately our Public Works Director Fred Camarillo is ill today and unable to be recognized tonight.

We look forward to finding a future date to recognize Fred. The other employee who's celebrating 30 years of service with the city is Brian Fomenko To share more about his career with the city and his contributions, we have Deputy Public Works Director Charles Cable. And I'll invite Charles to come up and speak a little bit about Brian.

CommentDede BeemanProposed · by introduction1:29:10

Good evening Mayor, Council Members and the general public. I've had the opportunity to work with Brian Fomenko for eight years now and it's been a pleasure working with him as you all know he led the charge on the Ventura Road force main break emergency disaster that we had a couple years ago One thing that's very special about Brian Fabenco is that he actually is a resident of the city, so he cares. He gives 110% of his time and effort for the city. So it's been a pleasure working with him and I know Brian has some prepared remarks that he's gonna read if you wanna come up, Brian?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:29:57

So serving the city of Hueneme for the past 30 years has been more than a career. It's a privilege and an honor for me really. What I always appreciate about Hueneme, it's a small town, it's close-knit atmosphere. It reminds me where I grew up in Hawaii to beach community where people they know each one another they look out for one another and they take pride their home their hometown Over the years, the people I've worked with have become like family.

We support one another. We work as a team. We share committed servicing...share commitment to serving our community. Some of the most rewarding parts in my career so far have been helping residents problem-solving and completing projects that make a difference in the quality of life for our community like the Forest Main Project for instance Port Hueneme is more than a place where I build my career. It's a place where I bought a house, raised my family.

I like being a part of the community and I'm proud to serve that community. I'm grateful for the relationships experiences and opportunities these 30 years have provided and I look forward to continuing to serve the community and contributing to the future of Port Hueneme for many years to come. It has truly been an honor to serve this beautiful city by the sea.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:31:16

Great, thank you. We have a certificate for you and then we're going to come down and take a photo.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:31:53

One, two, three. No? Oh, OK.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:32:26

We usually take the opportunity to have some words. Did anybody want to have any words? Go right ahead Council Member Lopez.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction1:32:31

Brian, what an honor to recognize your work. Incredible 30 years of service to our city when people see our community running smoothly day in and day out there's leadership behind their managing all that so The coordination behind the scenes of our public works program, tremendous. Your commitment represents an enduring commitment to our residents. Our staff and the long term well-being of our city.

So congratulations on a job well done, and we look forward to your continued service. One quick question, who was here? Because you and Fred are

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:33:11

like... I got six months on him.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction1:33:14

Yeah that's probably why Fred no showed because he didn't have time. But thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:33:20

Yes, Brian. You are one of the rare employees that has an enormous amount of institutional knowledge and just a jack-of-all-trades. And I remember when James first started, one of the things he was talking about is who stuck out as employee? Who were the important ones? And you were the first person that I mentioned to him that we need to keep a hold of and keep in our city so whatever we need to do, we need to make sure that you stick around for a little bit longer. I know you were looking to retire about that time but It would be such a waste to see you go with the amount of things that you have in that brain of yours, that you've been able to help with our city. So I thank you so much for sticking around.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:33:59

Yeah, the first time I went out to lunch with James Vega. I said there's this guy Brian you kind of get to know Brian Brian's been here Brian knows everything lives in the community and he's a friend of mine So yeah, it's been a pleasure Gaining knowledge through you. It's been a pleasure being a friend of you and Jessica we go way back in those regards and It's hard to fathom 30 years in one city working, working and still working. But the knowledge that you've gained is so valuable to us. So I think maybe we can keep you around for 10, 20 maybe?

Congratulations, thank you for your friendship and thank you for being a employee of the City of Port Hueneme.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:34:45

Yeah, the one thing that I think about, so you've been here 30 years have you always lived in Port Hueneme?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:34:49

No, I moved up here when I took the job

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:34:52

Oh, okay. Okay. I was thinking about the time 33 years taking the one to work back and forth and it finally said you know you've traveled this road for 33 years right but at 30 years what a what a awesome accomplishment to be at any job for 30 years and so I think James and I were talking the other day and when you said there was just a handful of employees that actually lived in the city and so i didn't know you were one of them but i'm glad you are so congratulations All right, well thank you so much. Thank you.

Okay we're gonna move to presentation B that's the Hueneme Beach Festival recap and presentation by our Police Support Service Manager Frank Montelago

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:35:40

And just before Frank gets started, I'll just note that as a reminder we also have the council had actually included in our Citizens Advisory Council work plan that each year after the beach festival Beach Festival will be presented and reviewed to the committee as well. So obviously today we wanted to give a recap and then we can take feedback and everything, but I just wanted to note that there will be another sort of public conversation and opportunity for feedback from the public and from the Citizens Advisory Committee. With that, I'll hand it over to Frank Monaloco.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:36:21

Good evening Madam Mayor, City Council members and city staff. We're here tonight to just go over a quick recap over this year's Hueneme Beach Festival. So here you'll see, we updated our banner from last year that we've used for the past several years. You have photos of two artists that we had from Led Zeppegin that was here this year and the Danza from our local church at Mary's Heart of the Sea that danced on Saturday One thing we added this year because of the World Cup, and you can see in the top of town photo was we added two video screens in anticipation of the soccer game. So we did live stream the two quarterfinal games on Saturday during the festival. And then we had Ellis Bryant our country singer those there and then just the entry photo of the festival Again, you'll see the Ferris wheel in lot C, the carnival rides.

And another thing we added this year was the St. Anthony's school dance hip-hop team came out and danced. It was their first official performance this year so I thought they did a very good job and performed for the crowd. They had like about a 10 minute dance that they did so it was pretty good for them. And then once again we partnered with Club Cabana Beach Soccer. So while the festival was going on, on the beach we had I believe it was like about 88 soccer teams that competed that weekend during...on that Saturday of the festival.

So to the main important thing, so the financials for the festival. So this year, the festival total expenses ran at $105,432.37. The city contributed $35,000 in sponsorship money that was donated to the festival. We ended up at $27,650. The Explorers sponsored as well, $4300. Carnival donation from our carnival ride this year were up and we got 16,000 $785, and then vendor fees collected for that be your arts and craft booths, your information booths, and your food booths was $22,300. So we ended up with a surplus of $603 this year for the festival.

And this being our 30 years, so we've averaged for the past three years about 100 to $105,000 is what it seems to be the average to run the festival when you include all the expenses This year we did have 10 music acts that performed over the past, over the two days where last year I believe we only had eight. So we added more music as well. We and I think we kind of expanded the variety because we had country, we had reggae, we have salsa, we have norteño banda and then we had rock with Liz Eppigan and then the mariachi outlaws were like a rock in Spanish and manazo. I think we diversified as far as the music genre this year.

And then what we want to go over then is also our poster contest winners that submitted their posters throughout all of Ventura County. We submitted to all the school districts this year, and then all the schools that participated submitted their posters. There was a committee that selected the posters, and our first winner was Noah Gill from St. Anthony School. He was a third grader at the time. He'll be starting fourth grade this Wednesday so if he could come up for his His presentation and then our sponsor again for the third year in a row is Lujan Transportation. So I'm going to have Jackie and Jeanette come up to present the check and Noah's framed photo.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:40:00

Noah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:40:03

Noah, can we go in the front?

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:40:28

One,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:40:34

two, three. Good job Noah. Yes, we have two more recipients to make it easier. Then at the time our junior high school winner is Sergio Martinez he is now a freshman in high school but he was attending Oshimi Junior High so Sergio if you could come up please? One, two, three. Thank you. And then our high school winner from Oxnard High School, Elsie Belayo. If you could please come up please?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:42:09

One, two, three.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:42:19

Thank you. And then back to the festival. So we had here's a list of all of our sponsors, a lot of returning sponsors and some new sponsors again Skunk Masters and Viper Security. They're a co-owned company so they donated the security costs for the festival with like about $17,000 this year. So that was covered by them for their contributions Kona Big Wild Eve was a beer sponsor, the Port Hueneme POA, Renewal by Anderson, Garnita the Brother, Ventura County Coast, Hyatt Vacation Club, EMT Standby, Darvick Productions, Plaza Liquor, Vallarta Supermarket was a new one. Again Lujan Transport, the Port of Hueneme and the Wilderness Willham provided once again the parking lot for us for all our residents for the beach festival this year And then recommendations, so staff recommends that the 2027 Hueneme Beach Festival date be held on July 10th and 11th which would be the weekend after the 4th of July.

And we will as a staff will continue to explore new options for the festival. At this time I'll take any questions.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:43:41

Are there any questions? Anyone have any questions? No questions. Thank you so much for your

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:43:47

work.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:43:48

Looking forward to your report when you come back. Okay, we're going to move on to the consent calendar. The consent calendar will be enacted in one motion unless someone asks to pull an item but before we get there do we have any public comments for the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:44:11

No public comments for consent.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:44:13

Okay, any items to pull from the consent calendar? If not is there a motion and a second? Second. Great thank you. Madam Clerk please speak.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:44:25

All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Hearing none motion passes unanimously.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:44:30

Great thank you we're going to move to our public hearing item number six And that's to adopt a resolution finding the project categorically exempt from the California, from CEQA. Finding the project consistent with the city's certified local coastal program and applicable public access policies of the California Coastal Act and providing special use permit number PHSU 26-9 As an appealable local coastal development approval authorizing the Port of Hueneme, Oxnard Harbor District to conduct the 2026 annual Port of Hueneme Banana Festival vintage car show including a temporary waiver for beach parking fees. Madam Clerk do you have proof of publication as required by law and a complete file of reports and exhibits?

CommentTricia MeyerProposedself-stated1:45:23

Yes madam mayor.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:45:24

Great will staff please present the report

CommentTricia MeyerProposedself-stated1:45:27

Good evening mayor members of the council and the public who's still here. I'm Tricia Meyer, I am the community development director And I'm happy to present this item to you It's a fairly straightforward request an event special event permit requests for the ports long-standing banana festival That's going to be held on September 26 2026 The proposed event is generally the same as it's been in past years the one notable Exception to that is that they are expecting about 50% more attendees, up to 15,000 people over the course of the day for the entire event.

Other than that what we're looking at is very similar to what we've seen in the past. The one-day event runs from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m., It includes the vintage and classic car show, closure of Surfside Drive and South Market Street. And then I guess last year they added a DJ booth and stage at Wharf Plaza. And so they intend to do the same thing this year in addition to having some folks that are playing some acoustic music that kind of move in and out of the car show area.

One distinction from prior years is the scope of the city's review. So, the majority of the Banana Festival occurs on the Port property, the Port-owned property and that area is covered by the Ports Master Plan which is certified by the California Coastal Commission and so for that reason, the City's approval tonight is limited to the areas that are on City-owned property and that's primarily that vintage car show and the closure of the streets and then the use of the City Beach parking lots. and then also Wharf Plaza.

The next slide actually shows a better view of that area, you can see up there that they're going to be putting in the K-rails on the south side of Surfside Drive and then also north of the entrance to the port area and the Sunkist lot. You can see Wharf Plaza up there with DJ and the stage facing north And then they've got some locations where they have a shuttle coming through to pick up boats at the beach parking areas. But this gives you kind of a good view of what's happening on the actual city property.

Because attendance is expected to be up to 15,000 people, staff did work closely with the applicant regarding traffic circulation and safety and parking management measures. Those are things that are the most concern for us as far as on the city portion of this event. And the proposed traffic plan was developed to balance event operations with the residents that are also impacted by this event that's occurring there and their neighborhood access.

This event's been hosted for many years, so staff's been able to incorporate a lot of operational measures that over time have been shown to be helpful as far as again attenuating some of the noise for their surrounding residents. Making sure we have a good security plan and a good operational plan for emergency services as well. So actually the event organizer is here tonight as well, so I know he can answer more questions if you have it on some of the details related to those items.

Because this project is located in the coastal zone, staff paid particular attention to protecting coastal resources. Fortunately nothing's happening on the beach so that's a little bit easier. There's no environmentally sensitive habitat areas in our paved roadways but the primary policy question is really whether we can protect coastal access and coastal resources and so I mean staff's answer to that is yes definitely with this plan that's definitely in place. So people in fact more people may have access to the beach because the parking is now free That particular day.

And because this is just a temporary permit for one-day event, it's CEQA exempt. So as far as a recommendation, I would say it's part of the city's longstanding partnership with the port. And given that the fact that this particular event is free to the public, it supports local businesses and it highlights one of the community's great assets which is its waterfront, staff is recommending approval of this request. We're recommending that you approve it with the recommendations that you see on this slide and that are repeated on page 1 of your staff report.

And with that, I think the director of the banana festival committee Randy Latimer is also here to give a short presentation answer any additional questions you may have

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:50:20

Okay council do you want to ask questions of My mayor or do you want to just wait? Okay. We'll wait for the second presentation. Come on up Mr. Latimer Two four one

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:50:37

So we have our co-director, so I'll let Mr. Latimer introduce himself. We're the dynamic duo here.

CommentRandy LatimerProposedself-stated1:50:44

My name is Randy Latimer. Good evening Mayor, Council, public. I'm Randy Latimer, this is part of my team back here. We're Team Bananas. We direct the 13th annual Banana Festival This is our fourth year coming into the festival and presenting the festival for the port along with Miguel. We've been working together, it's been a great partnership and those of you who have attended the festival I'm sure you had a great time this year. The festival is on the 26th of September. It's a Saturday doors open at 10am and we will be done by 5pm We have a lot in store, not only on the port property but as you talked about the car show leading in. It's a vintage car show with over about 120 vintage cars as the public is being dropped off from shuttle buses from the public lots they'll walk right through the car show and then enter into the festival where there's a variety of different things happening we have We try to make things different every single year, so you get a different experience.

We have at least 26-25 food vendors. We have over 100 retail public service vendors, arts and crafts for kids, STEM activities. We involve the Navy, so they bring resources, veterans And one of the best things is each food vendor has to bring a banana treat. And we will have a lot of information on where you can get these banana treats. We have a main stage with very, very popular music acts that will be playing all day. We're bringing a silent disco.

So if you've never done one of those, you have to come out and try out the silent disco. It's really cool. So, it'll be a great day. I'm gonna let Miguel talk more about the car show and how we're going to make sure that it's not going to negatively impact the community making sure there is public access throughout the car show area and make sure that noise has been properly mitigated throughout the day not only at the car show but in the festival We are both charged with monitoring the noise levels and make sure it's a pleasant experience for everybody. But I'll let McGill talk more about that.

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:53:25

you, Mr. Latimer and good evening Madam Mayor and Council Members and everybody members of the public. So Ms. Meyer actually had a really great presentation so I don't want to take any more of your precious time with a lot of this but I do want to... how can I scroll down on this? Okay, there it is. So just some of the highlights as to why the car show is something that people really enjoy and it's one of those moments where people can relax before going into the festival or maybe catch that dream car that they've always wanted. I know every time I go there, I'm a car enthusiast myself and I see a lot of vehicles that I wish I had. Can you scroll down please?

We went over the location within Meyers presentation so everybody knows that it's an enclosed show. It doesn't impede any traffic coming out of some of the already established routes. But really, you can skip to that. What I want to just highlight is what Mr. Latimer really spoke to right? That we are going to have a lot more visibility with dedicated staff to ensure that the ordinances for sound for no use of alcohol on the premises are being enforced, as well as direct points of contact with city staff and some of the public safety officers so that we can ensure that there's accountability but also at the same time that there's access and there's connection.

We do want to also highlight the fact that this is the first time that we have dedicated staff to this area because we've seen the growth and the importance of it So, Mr. Latimer and myself will be just walking around but ensuring that everybody has a great experience and feels welcome in our great city of Hueneme. Any questions I'm happy to entertain? I might bring my car, I don't know.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:55:43

Please do! All right, council members do you have any questions? Just questions at this time.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction1:55:49

So Mr. Latimer I know you've been the event coordinator for like the last four years what are some of the lessons learned that you're gonna bring forward to this to this event this year

CommentRandy LatimerProposedself-stated1:56:01

We're very comfortable shoes, started at six in the morning. Actually seeing the growth of the festival obviously we need more staff dedicated to monitoring the festival itself and making sure that number one it's a pleasant experience for the community so making sure that we have adequate security, have an adequate security plan, have an adequate egress and ingress plan getting people into the festival Without them having to wait in line too long is one of the big things. We're actually implementing a new security screening system using OpenGate this year, which you see at a lot of the major ballparks.

And instead of having to empty your pockets out and do all this stuff, you just walk through and technology's amazing that it catches those things so we can move more people through the entry than we could in the past from an analog scanning machine. Enhancing just once again entry, looking at our layout making sure it's the most efficient layout to maximize the flow through the festival. Once again making sure that the public is having a pleasant experience and once again I think the biggest thing is making sure that number one the community is aware of the festival that they know It's going to be a little challenging getting around a little bit that day, but come to the festival and have some refreshing bananas that day. So that's really what we've really learned on how to mitigate a growing and growing festival working with our team, working with the port, working with your police department who's amazing.

Working with your public works we all work together and continue presenting a great festival.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction1:57:56

So that was my next question was the coordination with RPD do you guys like pre-brief this before the festival or when does that coordination happen?

CommentRandy LatimerProposedself-stated1:58:06

Absolutely, I meet with your traffic unit and make sure that the explorers with both Montelongos and making sure that the explorers who help us out, the PDs, the police officers who are on site understand what the timelines are of the traffic flow in our overall plan. We do have a structured timeline on when certain things have to happen Making sure that our team understands That this is this is our timeline and we have to stick to that making sure that they Understand that and where we're just flowing on the way. It's supposed to

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction1:58:48

okay. Thank you

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:58:54

On the alcohol, did you mean to say that no alcohol in the car show area but is there beer sales inside the festival I

CommentRandy LatimerProposedself-stated1:59:03

Yes there's beer, wine, alcohol in the festival and we're taking extra precautions placing signs. Once you come out on the public street no alcohol comes out of the sun kissed lot. So there will be guards dedicated to the car show, monitoring that. Not only from people taking it and carrying it in from the festival but coming from outside and making sure that their people are not consuming alcohol in the public space.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:59:39

Any other questions? Okay, we're in the public hearing so I'll now open the public hearing for public comments. The time is now 725. Madam Clerk are there any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:59:52

No public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:59:53

Great then the public comment time has concluded. I will now close the public comment it is 726. Are there any other... Any comments or any other questions before we move on? Okay, great. So we have before us the recommendations. Do we still have those recommendations that you can put on the screen so I don't have to read them all again?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:00:21

Are there going to be banana splits? Would love it!

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:00:35

Okay so we have before us the recommendations for approval. So if you need to take a minute, you can. After you do that I'd like to have a motion and a second. Is there a motion and a second?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:00:47

So moved.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:00:48

Second. Great thank you. Madam Clerk please take roll.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:00:53

All in favor? I'm sorry Council Member Gama.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:00:56

Yes.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:00:57

Council Member Lopez? Yes. Council Member Perez? Yes. Mayor Hernandez, I mean Mayor McQueen-Lajon? Here. And Mayor... I mean yes! I'll be all messed up. Motion passes 4-0 with Mayor Pro Tem Hernandez absent.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:01:13

Great thank you and thank you for the report coming out today. Thank you so much Okay, so we're going to

move on to item number seven. Consider introduction of an ordinance adding Chapter 10 to Article 5 of the Port Hueneme Municipal Code regulating short-term rentals. Madam Clerk do you have proof of publication as required by law and a complete file of reports and exhibits?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:01:37

Yes madam mayor.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:01:39

Will staff please present the report? Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:01:43

thank you I'll be presenting Try to give a little bit of background because we've this has been a long process Drafting this ordinance. We've come to council several times So some people may be sick of hearing about it, but we'll just try to give enough to remind everybody What we've done and where we're at so so just starting with the background of city initially began to discuss short-term rentals around October of 2024 when the city began receiving Complaints and inquiries regarding short-term rentals in the absence of local operating regulations.

On January 6th, 2025 the Council directed staff to explore developing short-term rental regulatory options About a month after, as part of that discussion the council also asked for staff to conduct community engagement and return with potential regulatory frameworks. Over the next few months and over the summer we held an online survey and then we held a community forum here at City Hall that had a pretty good turnout in the survey received a couple hundred responses about short-term rentals So, we brought that information back to Council in August of 2025. At that time we talked about the fact that most of those responses most of the people at the forum had said that they wanted reasonable what we're calling good neighbor regulations.

And a moderate framework rather than, you know, they weren't asking for a total ban or anything like that. And so on August 18th Council directed staff to move forward with preparing a moderate regulatory framework focused on those issues. We drafted it, came back to Council on November 3rd and 17th for public hearings. At that time we got feedback from several people in attendance at the meeting about concerns related to a separation requirement that had been included in the ordinance at that time and the exterior posting requirements So council asked staff to go back and look at some comparisons and then return to Council with another ordinance with those things adjusted. So we came back to Council on June 15, 2026 with some options at that time Council chose a Instead of the prior separation requirement, council chose a 200-foot neighbor notification.

And instead of the exterior posting requirements, the neighbor notification process and then also an ownership restriction not allowing corporations to own short term rentals And then a one year program review where we'd review after one year and determine if there were any changes needed at that time. So, that's the most recent hearing that was a couple months back and so we're back with that ordinance included in your packet tonight.

For this public hearing at which time the ordinance can be Introduced or it could be modified further. So council still has options We wanted to give a little bit of background and again, we've talked about a lot of these things But it's been over a couple of years now so just some reminders lots of key points Short-term rental is a dwelling unit or portion of the dwelling unit that's rented for less than 30 consecutive days.

We have a company called HDL who does our sales tax and hotel tax reviews, and they have estimated that there are approximately 40 to 55 short-term rental listings Some of those are active and some are either just posted or maybe they've been rented once or twice, and haven't been consistently rented but there's about 40 to 55 of those listings. And then we show here the The potential hotel tax revenue, you can see that we did start to enforce the existing codes related to short-term rentals paying occupancy tax.

And so you can see a bump from prior year 2024 of about $37,000 in revenues to 2025, $55,000 in revenue. And so we do think enforcing And TOT tax has led to some additional revenue for the city, but like we've talked about throughout the process is we don't think that it will be a huge significant bump from where we're at. You know maybe another you know 18-20 thousand dollars but it's not... We don't anticipate that this is going to be a significant change moving forward based on the activity that were aware of.

So the other, I think key point that we've focused a lot of discussion on is that we're unique in that some of our city is in the California coastal zone and some of our city is not. And so just as a reminder outside of the coastal zone, the city essentially has complete authority over short-term rentals but within the coastal zone, we have to have approval from the Coastal Commission to implement and enforce regulations related to short-term rentals And so if this item is introduced and then ultimately approved, we would then have to proceed with taking it to the Coastal Commission before it can be enforced throughout the city.

I've been asked a couple times how likely I think it would be that the ordinance as drafted gets approved by Coastal Commission and I'll just remind everybody who's talked a few times throughout The more strict you try to make it, the less likely is that Coastal will approve it. And so we have made it we've included several elements that are stricter than sort of the default. So I think one of our thoughts right now is that it's a possibility that the Coastal Commission may not approve it. which is another reason why we may want to sort of adopt a baseline ordinance and get that approved, and there's always the possibility to have future discussions about more specific elements that the city would want to talk more about.

But that is a possibility at this point. And then just a quick highlight of the coastal zone boundary. You could see the thin blue line on that sort of bisects that the city kind of cuts this in half and so the portion closer to the coast is the coastal zone, but there's a significant part of our city that's outside of that coastal zone as well And so one of the things that as we're talking about the ordinance today, we should probably sort of keep in mind and get council direction on is whether we'd want to try to enforce the whole ordinance. Or if we'd want to wait to enforce the ordinance until we get coastal approval or if we'd want to start with enforcing on the areas outside of the coastal zone. That's an option for the Council.

So the proposed ordinance as we drafted it includes some of these key elements. It includes a requirement for an annual permit, a business license and the payment of hotel tax or TOT transient occupancy tax. It includes ownership eligibility requirements. Like we said, the direction at the last meeting was to include no corporate ownership as an example of a requirement that could impact whether or not certain people could own and operate short-term rentals.

We've included good neighbor operating standards related to things like noise and trash. We've included the neighbor notification and complaint response requirements. A 24-hour local contact is required in the proposed ordinance, a citywide permit cap of 10%, which as we said any permit cap may get challenged by Coastal Commission that's one of those items that sort of increases the risk that they reject it We've picked sort of a less strict one than some cities that have already gotten rejected have gotten, but it's still a possibility. But we've proposed the 10% citywide permit cap which a couple cities have gotten approved. Some cities haven't gotten that approved so...

And then we've included monitoring and enforcement provisions, and then the one-year program review. The idea with that one-year program review is once we know it's adopted, once we know that the Coastal Commission has approved it, then we have some time to see how it goes, that there would be an automatic ability for the council to take a look and see if there are any changes desired.

And so these slides have some more details. For example, I'll try to go through this quickly. The permitting system, all operators would be required to obtain a permit and business license and pay TOT tax. The annual permit fee would be $995. That's a fairly low fee compared to other cities. Again, I think just recognizing the council tried to keep fees low for potential operators Which therefore is when we get to how it's enforced, that low fee leads to where we're looking at low cost and ways to enforce where the costs are not significant either.

And the owners would get a low permit fee but the catch is that they also need to make sure that their short term rentals are being operated in ways that do not impact neighbors adversarially. Kind of went through some of these already, I guess one of the key points maybe would be good neighbor standards. Just to give some background on what those are, the short-term rentals would be subject to quiet hours from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m., occupancy limits of two persons per legal bedroom plus two additional persons not to exceed ten occupants. In other words that's really intended to stop a problem other cities have seen of party houses where We have a lot of challenges related to parking.

One of the requirements is that the short-term rental operator has to have off street parking, in other words isn't going to just take up all the parking on the street that their neighbors would need otherwise. Another good neighbor standard is trash management requirements And we didn't, as noted we removed the exterior posting of rules and contact information. So now it's just the interior posting which is typical when you check into for example an Airbnb usually there's a sheet that tells you the rules and who to contact And then there's that notice requirement to your neighbors and then fire and life safety requirements. So those are some of the examples of the good neighbor standards that are included by state law short term rentals aren't allowed in accessory dwelling units affordable housing units or mobile homes so that's also included in the ordinance As I mentioned before, the fee is low but therefore we're asking the operator who's benefiting from operating these businesses really to be responsible for the safe and appropriate operation of those units.

So the ordinance is drafted with those requirements in mind so operator responsibility is included I mentioned the permit cap. We included language in there that the city may use a third party compliance service. That's something that might change in the future, but right now as some of the state laws are going into effect like SB 346 which is relatively new and so people are still sort of figuring that out But for now, we're planning to continue to utilize HDL as a third-party compliance service until all of that is worked out and we can consider an alternative. So the ordinance allows us to do that but doesn't require it.

And then as discussed at the last meeting, we did talk about the fact that typical violations of like a $50 violation isn't going Thank you, Mr. Chair. Fines of $1,500 for a first violation, 3,000 for a second violation and $5,000 for additional violations within a one-year period. And then if there's three major violations then the city has the option within a 24 month period the city has an option to suspend and revoke the permit so.

So with that, we're recommending introducing the ordinance today. If it's introduced today and further changes aren't desired then it would return to council for a second reading at our next meeting and then it would take 30 days to go into effect after adoption outside of the coastal zone. And then we'd have to wait to get an answer from Coastal Commission before we can enforce it inside of the coastal zone I think we got a rough estimate of potentially about six months for that process So With that we recommend introducing the ordinance and we can answer any questions about the ordinance

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:16:30

Are there any questions for city manager? Any questions?

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:16:33

Yes.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:16:33

I'll go right ahead councilmember Lopez

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:16:36

Thank you for the presentation are We gonna have online services for this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:16:44

So per the ordinance, we'll give the program but it doesn't give the details so the city would have the ability to do online services. As we're getting started with it, we anticipate that a lot of it's just going to be done by email, voicemail partially because we don't have additional resources to purchase a new online platform. So, you know there'll be information posted online and at some point we may come back if the program is successful. And we may come back and say okay, you know, we have this many short-term rentals it's getting more popular now We'd you know, we have the funds to buy an online platform And we have the need for an online platform, but we don't we weren't anticipating starting with that at this time

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:17:28

well,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:17:28

the reason I ask is like

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:17:30

when this goes into effect and The permitting process, do we have a template already for this?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:17:40

We have a template. But it's just it's a simple template you know we have essentially a word document permit

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:17:52

yeah okay so the complaint response and nuisance plan So I'm a resident and my neighbor who's running an STR is having a wild party past 10 o'clock. I have the little emailer saying, hey this is the person I'm calling what happens if I don't get anybody on the other line?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:18:20

Yeah, so that's the key thing right and they're only paying $900 a year to operate. So essentially the owner is by agreeing to the permit there you know attesting that they are going to operate their The city has the ability if there's three strikes to remove, revoke their permit. So how it would play out is and how we drafted the ordinance to sort of try to make it as simple as possible is that if we get notified that there have been a complaint and the owner didn't respond then that's a violation.

With three of those, they can be revoked. But what we don't want to get into and the challenge is we tried not to draft this in a way that you have to essentially have a person go out in the middle of the night and catch somebody red-handed which is actually extremely difficult, probably more difficult than people realize. I've done enforcement of short-term rentals in the past and if you show up and the person says, I'm not renting, I am the niece of the property owner then you didn't catch them red handed even if they could be violating all the other rules but it's not a short term rental because they're saying their family member is the person organizing it So that's where we said if we were trying to do that, the cities that are doing that those are those cities that spend a million dollars to do a short-term rental program.

That includes you know a dedicated enforcement person so with the direction to keep the fees low and keep it you know under $1,000 for the property owners the catch is they're gonna be on the hook to respond and then notify us that they responded

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:20:16

Thank you.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:20:22

Any other questions? Go ahead, go ahead. So it's my understanding with the pre-1976, the HOA could say we're not gonna allow short term rentals and I think we have one such HOA in the city of Port Hueneme so if they have in their CCNRs, I believe they're called, if they say absolutely no short term rentals in this complex And then somebody says, well I'm going to do it anyways and starts doing it. And then would they...and if we're not paying taxes or not permitted through us If somebody came to us and says I want a permit, and we go oh well you're in that HOA that says no STRs.

What do we do in that situation? And then the other case would be like where they don't come get a permit but they're operating, are we the enforcement arm or is it the HOA?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:21:21

I might have to ask Paul to remind me, because I drafted it one way and I think legally we couldn't do that so I don't remember exactly how it ended

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:31

up. So my general opinion on this subject matter whether it relates to STRs or anything else is that the city does not Approve or disapprove what you can do in an HOA. We don't interpret the law between the homeowner and the HOA, we don't interpret that agreement That's between them So my opinion on this specifically to your question is that if somebody came in here To get a permit and they otherwise met all of the permit requirements We would issue their permit regardless of what the HOA said that they would allow or not That's between the HOA and the homeowner. It doesn't give them permission to do it. It doesn't override their covenants with the HOA but I've seen disputes between homeowners and HOAs on interpretations of the CC&Rs The city getting involved with that will get protracted into litigation and expenses on something that we have no authority over or control over, that's an interpretation between them So, the flip side of that question that you asked was if the HOA would we enforce it if they were violating an HOA provision?

And the answer again I would say would be no. We don't have any authority over their contract with the HOA. That's a private contract between two individuals. We only have authority over violations of our ordinance. So if they were violating our ordinance by operating without a permit or operating in violation of any of the conditions of that ordinance, yes we would absolutely be able to enforce that.

But we wouldn't be able to enforce the specific thing you asked which is they're violating their HOA rules.

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:23:23

Going back to the permit so operator comes in gets a permit and then Has it out with their owner or the HOA or whatever. I got a permit, does that expose us to litigation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:23:40

I mean, and if everything in the world exposes you to litigation if somebody wants to drag the city in. So it's kind of a broad question but no as far as will that litigation be successful or last very long? No. The permit does like, as I said is just something that says you've met the city's conditions for it. It doesn't authorize you to do something that is otherwise illegal. Doesn't authorize you to violate state law. Doesn't authorize you to violate contracts that you have with others which is the case of your CC&Rs.

It just shows compliance with the city's regulations. Just like a building permit, just because we issued you a building permit doesn't mean that you're authorized to now do something that you couldn't do pursuant to state law or your HOA. It doesn't say you can paint your house blue because we issued you a building permit if your HOAs says these are our design standards.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:24:36

Given one final question, if we were to remove the STR cap and I think if I remember correctly that we're in no way even close to a 10% cap. So if that is putting us at risk of being rejected wouldn't it be wiser just to remove it? Policy question

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:24:58

back to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:25:00

I think we had that discussion a couple of meetings ago, right? And I think at that time we had a lot of the residents who said it's worth the risk to try to do the cap and the council agreed. We're at about 1% of our homes right now. So, I don't anticipate we'll be hit 10% anytime soon but it's also actually you know we're at one percent now it's actually not that far off either you know so So the ordinance does have a process for how we basically move to a lottery after that 10% is met.

But yeah, I want to say just to go back to the cap question, We tried to write it broadly enough that we're hoping it gets approved. It's the more strict you get on that, the more specific you get on that, the more likely it is that Coastal Commission will say you're trying to keep people out of the beach areas which again I know we had this debate previously but Coastal Commission's goal Not to worry about any of the side effects of short-term rentals, but just to try to make sure that as many people as possible have access to the beach. Which is great and it's also one of our goals, but we also have to deal with the flip side of it, of also making sure that it's not causing negative impacts and that's where you know, like I said, we tried to end up in a reasonable place, but for us the cap makes sense.

The question will be does it make sense for Coastal Commission?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:26:45

Yes regarding the Coastal Commission when you submit this and there's something about it that they don't like are they going to send back directions as to what you need to change or they just get to send it back to you and say no and you have to figure it out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:26:57

We're talking about that and I think either is possible but what we think we would get would be something back saying here's the areas we have concerns with which would then be a roadmap to getting you know into compliance back to council and getting into compliance thank you

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:27:12

Yeah. So the question I asked if you had a template, because what I've seen in other HOAs are a sign-off by the HOA president which would satisfy any HOA that's not going to permit this. So to me, that's the protection I think that we need within the permitting process

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:27:42

Yeah, we looked at that. I think we... Let me check the heat for this one. It came

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:27:51

down to a legal risk

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:27:52

question

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:27:54

As with any law, you certainly can put conditions like that in there and do it. I just happen to believe it's a very risky move to do and here's the reason why if I didn't articulate it well before. Imagine just two neighbors, property owners, and you come into pull building permit to build a shed in your backyard and we have a condition that says your neighbor has to sign off and say it's okay first We couldn't do that. Likewise, if we issued a permit for that shed because they met all the conditions, all the setbacks, all sets of our code but unbeknownst to us there's an agreement or covenant between these two property owners that says thou shalt not build anything on your property within a larger setback area say.

They still have that issue between them I don't know if it's enforceable or not, but that's a dispute between them. An HOA is no different. It's just the scale is larger. It's still the HOA versus the property owner and if you get a situation where and I've seen it. This is not a fictional thing where an HOA says no, you can't do that. Property owner says yes, I can.

And What side does the city take on that and trust me no matter which side you choose to take on that? You end up in the litigation and you end up having to Front the costs of that on top of it when it has nothing to do with you other than you chose a side So I really recommend staying out of the property owner HOA dispute business. If an HOA doesn't allow it, they don't allow it but it's upon them to enforce it to say you can't do this. You still can't do that.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:29:48

Yeah I just think that it's exposing us either way because what we're basically giving them a permit and no one let's just we're talking about one HOA that's pre 1976. We if we issue that permit We technically were wrong.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:30:10

No, that's where I would disagree with you on the legality of that. The issuance of the permit is whether or not it meets the conditions of our municipal code, not whether or not it meets the conditions of other contracts you might have with other people. If somebody challenged us on the fact that we issued a building permit to somebody or an SDR permit or any kind of permit to somebody and said you can't issue that permit because it violates my contract with another person I'll have that case thrown out of court within the first hearing. We don't have anything to do with that contract between those other two parties. We can't enforce it, we can't interact with it so our issuance of a building permit or an SDR permit or business license permit is completely independent.

They're two separate things. Similarly, if somebody decided to paint their house blue and they didn't need a permit for it and they're not allowed to paint their house blue pursuant to the HOA, it's up to the HOA to then go after them and enforce their covenants. And they will likely win that. Same thing if somebody opens up an SCR that's in violation of the covenants.

I don't know if those covenants are constitutional, if they were written properly. If they'll withstand a state law muster on whether or not that person can do that or not. You might have a covenant in that contract that is not enforceable. In which case the property owner may be successful in overturning that. But again, we have no privity to that. We're not connected with that. So for those reasons I don't recommend getting involved with that.

That said, I have seen cities that have conditions like this, not necessarily for SCRs but for Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:32:10

Can I add just to that, too? Because we had really kind of talked about this previously or before bringing it to Council. And I totally understand the legal perspective and the legal recommendation. When we had talked, I said, but poor Hueneme—and I think we heard it actually You know it started this meeting is we do have a very strong and vocal group of homeowners associations. So you know so from a policy standpoint you know I'm like you know I get that the HOA is going to probably come to each of us The HOA president will probably come to each of us and say, why didn't you ask us before you allowed this? So there is sort of that challenge. So what we did end up including in the ordinance trying to find sort of a middle ground is it's section C on page 12.

And it specifically is a requirement that the operator shall provide their association with written notice of the short-term rental and a complete copy of the nuisance response plan. Then, the operator has to provide an updated copy every time they make a change to their nuisance response plan. So we tried to include that as sort of a middle ground where You know, we're requiring them to notify the HOA and then if they notify the HOA and the HOA has a problem then the HOA can you know They're not caught finding out later some other way that there's short-term rentals that they didn't know about so That was sort of our you know approach to trying to find A middle ground but it is it is one of those things where?

And you know Paul and I had the conversation. It was just our community knowing our community and knowing the The reaction, I think we can sort of all gauge that the HOAs might expect that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:34:06

If I can throw a bone to the HOA argument on the other side of things because that's what lawyers do is argue both sides, right? One alternative that the city has is there's nothing here that says that the city has to allow SCRs in every community. So you can say we don't allow SCRs here or here or here And then we wouldn't issue a permit for those particular locations.

So we do have an element of control as long as it's the, we're exercising the control and the council isn't deciding what that is. We're not deferring it over to an HOA. It could be any HOA at anytime.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:34:51

An HOA was built before 1976, we could say no SDRs. I'm saying it's irrelevant of when the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:35:00

HOA could open up tomorrow if we take go down a road that says that We're going to follow HOA policy those HOA policies could change tomorrow you could have a new HOA development tomorrow There's nothing that we have that's any control over it. What I am saying is, if you know of specific communities or areas or acreage or parcels or whatever that for some reason you want to make findings to say these are not...

We are not going to allow SDRs in that, you can effectively adopt the same policy that the HOA has adopted but you've adopted that policy and said The city is not going to allow STRs here or there.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:35:44

We can't do that in the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:35:45

coastal zone? Well, yeah again everything we're talking about is completely thrown into a whole different world when we talk about the coastal zone and what the Commission's going to do but yes that is also something to consider There is a bill pending that says if it passes, that the Coastal Commission cannot get this right has to allow a city ordinance that prohibits STRs that aren't owner-occupied. I think I put it, phrased it right so it's the state coming in and saying that if local agencies want to say no STRs for this limited reason because they want to encourage more owner occupancy and housing The Coastal Commission can't prevent that. So there is a little bit of a push and pull between the Coastal Commission and the housing thing, and what cities are allowed to do but yes your main point is Coastal Commission is always different.

Right

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:36:51

so let's move on we're in a public hearing still so I'll now open the public hearing for public input the time is 8.03 Madam Clerk are there any public comments regarding this item?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:37:07

Yes, we have one public comment from Mr. Paul Quigley

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:37:18

Good evening City Council Mayor thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak I took a look at the latest draft, and I know we've come a long way. One strong recommendation that I want to make is that the city incorporate procedure where STR operators can appeal actions being taken against them in the context of compliance with the ordinance. I think there's a lot of confusion about how the ordinance is going to be implemented.

In that scenario, there's the risk for error, for people to get harmed. There should be a separate Procedure available a separate review in the event that an operator feels that the ordinance has been inappropriately applied The second thing I want to talk about is cost control Manager Vega talked about costs are only presented the slide We saw gross TOT Payments and we saw disbursements, right?

And what jumps out at me in these numbers is the Is the fact that the city only gets 80% of the gross TOT payment this third-party contractor gets 15 percent So why are we positioning ourselves in this sort of a deal? This is a bad deal for the city. It's a bad deal for taxpayers When you think about it, the contractor needs to be compensated based on work performed not based on revenue generated.

I mean that's a lose-lose situation for the city and it gets worse as time goes on. As that gross pie, that gross TOT pie gets larger this contractor gets more and more dollars when you think about it This contractor is guaranteed 15% of that gross each and every month, right? No matter what he does or she or they. They can choose to do absolutely nothing in any given month and they're going to get 15% This meeting is approach to it, particularly focus on work performed rather than the revenue and focus on a fixed rate rather than a percent of the revenue. This is really a bad deal.

Anyway I just wanted to emphasize those two points. The need for a procedure for short-term operators to appeal decisions that the city is taking against them. And number two, take a look at the contract and the way this third party contractor's being compensated does not make any sense. Great thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:40:31

Mayor, I can answer directly a couple of those. One there is an appeals section it's Section 5675 specifically included for this ordinance and I'll also note it will I anticipate the first citation we write will be appealed. That's how it always goes and I previously Enforced on a party house holding a party with 400 people which was clearly a violation and when I cited them they appealed the Citation so so we do have an appeal section It's probably gonna be a use of staff time, but hopefully it doesn't become a burden that's something that we'd come back and look at what the one-year review and And then as far as the cost for the contractor to find the rentals, again that's not required by the ordinance. The ordinance allows for it but it's not required.

If and when that SB 346 really goes into effect and we know that we're not gonna face a multi-million dollar lawsuit for it, we'd probably switch to that process and be able to drop this, but the ordinance doesn't require it so we can do that as we want to do it. So both of those are not problematic via the ordinance.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:41:49

Great thank you.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:41:50

Adam Clark do we have any? We have no further speaker cards.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:41:52

Great

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:41:53

thank

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:41:56

you. You can go ahead and come up but just after if you can just fill out one of the cards for me and bring it to me yeah no after good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:42:06

How's it going everybody? Daniel Delores, I've been here one other time and my question was about the response team to some noise enforcements and complaints in that regard. Would you guys want us to put somebody besides us to go out and check the property if there was a noise complaint because Right now, I'm the main show. I'll go check. I'm the first to hear if there's a party or if there's some type of violation going on whether it be parking or just extra people at the place and I think an easy way to enforce that would just be to have the host of that property know all the neighbors in the area, tell them hey this is my rental. This is my phone number which I do that anyways. I don't know about the other hosts in the area you know I've been a successful short-term owner operator for 10 years now and it's been great.

I don't mind following these rules and regulations and I think it's good to have something like that in place because for so long we haven't had anything Also about the renewal, because it was about five years ago that the TOT had first come out and I'd been running for about 10 years. And one year was like you need to have your business license for each place and then the year had passed on the calendar and then it was like okay one business license is going to run all of the rentals So is there going to be something in place to let us know what we need to be doing the right way? Because I got hit with all those late fees and fines because I didn't know it had switched from having one business license per property, to having one turned towards multiple.

Now it's back to having one business license per property which I have And I'm okay with that, as long as I'm still in business. Business is great. Actually, I love the HDL group. I talk to them multiple times if I need any help. They're really clear on how I could pay them. I have my notebook. I keep track of everything myself but mainly about the ordinance and all that it just comes down to how you respond as a host to the complaints. It's about you going to take care of it if there's a problem Which I hope other renters do the same thing. Because you know, I take pride in my business and it pays the bills so I want to be there for them and do what's right.

I

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:44:49

would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:44:51

say for both speakers, I think you guys both attended the prior meeting when we talked about some of the issues in the prior ordinance. So your feedback was very helpful for the changes we did make and how we restructured that. So we just we do want to let you know, we we went back. We watched that video We took everybody's feedback the council made sure we want that we took You know your guys's feedback and I think you hit the nail on the head, you know our goal is Our goals to never have to enforce The ordinance where you know if every property owner is making sure everybody's following the rules We don't ever have to have a conversation about it And I think you hit the nail on the head that I think In our city, most of them are being operated well and most of them are being operated with somebody who responds and addresses it.

And it's really the ordinance is written for the person who doesn't do that you know a person who doesn't respond so So you have to know in the head that if it's you doing it or if you guys you know end up hiring somebody to do it It's just that having somebody who responds and then We had previously we had talked about doing like that sign on, on the outside that has contact information but your feedback on you know hey the where the owners we should. We will let them know where they're will let them know we're operating and that they can call you know in who to call. That's so that's what's built into here so So I think, yeah. Last thing I'll say is we really haven't gotten any complaints about anybody operating the short term rental like operating them poorly right and so that is a credit to the property owners.

The complaints that we had received when all this started and the comments we got at the forum were more people saying that in this area there isn't supposed to be a short-term rental, you know. So I think there was one person who had said there wasn't supposed to be a short-term rental and then that person was breaking all these rules, you know? So yeah, and so in short we tried to write something with the kind of what you were saying in mind And that's the intent that it would be working with the property owners. And and again You know if we never have people complain or they call you know There is an issue and they call the property owner and it gets resolved then we never get involved. So I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:47:17

Good, good and we want to try to keep it as smooth as possible. You know and again I just appreciate running business in the city because I have other friends in Oxnard and Ventura that you know they can't do this with their place and they don't make you know as much money as me and you know they got to go back because they could only rent six months Out of the year or a hundred days out of the year on short term and then they got to find long-term tenants So they're constantly going back and forth And you know it kind of smoother for us as business owners this way, and I appreciate you guys Listening and great.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:47:51

Thank you. Thank you for your comments

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:47:54

Adam Clark do we have any more? No that concludes public comment

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:47:58

Okay, public input has concluded. I'll now close the public hearing. The time is 814. So we have before us a recommendation to introduce for first reading by title only waiving further readings of the ordinance entitled an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme Chapter 10 and Article 5 of the Port Hueneme Municipal Code Regulating Short-Term Rentals. Find the project to be categorically exempt from CEQA and to take such additional related actions that may be desirable.

Is there a motion and a second? So moved. Second. Great, thank you. Any further discussion at all? Any further discussion? Yes. You?

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction2:48:41

Yeah. Go ahead. So we've been at this for two and a half years and I think fundamentally we have sound ordinance. Is it perfect? We'll find out. And like anything, we will turn to things that we need to get right But I think fundamentally we've done a good job hammering at this for two and a half years. I do note, I did take a deep dive with SB 346. It's called the opt-in ordinance. Currently there is no lawsuits pending So what this authorizes the city to go to VRMO, Airbnb and mandate that they give us who's operating within our area code.

So this is a separate thing that's not part of... We do not want to tie this into this ordinance. I get that but we should opt in. We should bring this to the council so that we don't need to use HDL And basically, these short-term rentals will have to report those earnings directly to the city. So I'll be looking for something to come back to the council for that.

That's all I got.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:50:00

Anything else? Any other items?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:50:02

Can I just give an update on that? Yes, you can go ahead. The notice we got regarding SB 346 was from League of California Cities and we meet with them regularly and they are lobbyists in advocacy, so they give the feedback that when the bill passed that Airbnb and VRBO and other providers not to single them out but But that essentially they were not happy with with that law and that they made statements that when a city starts to enforce it, they will take it to the Supreme Court if need be.

And challenge that because I think they've said there are some First Amendment claims of having to turn over the data of their customers and you know that kind of a thing. And so essentially we've been told that right now everybody's in the wait-and-see of who's going to be the first victim as a city who adopts that and then has to pay for a Supreme Court challenge on, on that type of thing.

So maybe it doesn't happen and maybe it's fine but I think for you know the recommendation What we heard from League of Cities and what I would recommend to everybody is right now it doesn't add much value. So the idea of risking, like you know last city that took a law like that to the Supreme Court it was five or six million dollars so there isn't that value to the city right now but what we're hoping is that it's a bluff and that Airbnb and VRBO don't do that and there never is a lawsuit filed and then at that point we can bring that back But even just, you know, just realistically with that is like it's probably going to be a year or two before everybody knows if it is a bluff or not. So I just want to be, you know, up front with that's almost the challenge right now as it's like it is the wait and see to see if the city's gonna get sued and have to pay those costs.

But once we get more on that, it's something that we would bring back and potentially could bring back in our one-year review.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:52:16

All right, Madam Clerk please take roll call. Hold on a minute.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:52:21

I want to thank the second gentleman for coming up and describing what a good operator wants to do because that is exactly what we're trying to do in this ordinance, is have the Good Neighbor policy. And so I appreciate that. In regards to the SB 346, The way I see it is that a city like Newport, whom has probably millions and millions of opportunity for tax dollars.

They're the ones that need to litigate this, you know? Because we're not in the city of Port Hueneme. It's just it's not there Why would you spend a hundred thousand dollars chasing down 20 or 30 just doesn't make sense You know, so I think it's it's very smart very wise for us to wait and see And I think this ordinance I just would hope that we could have a higher confidence level that it gets through the Coastal Commission and then as time moves on, then make adjustments. So I would say just remove the cap but again if we're going to just leave it to the Coastal Commission, that's fine too but if you really have a concern that we're going to be held up on

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:53:56

I would say we had that discussion at the council and I think everybody sort of made peace with, you know. And remember we had residents and community members saying be brave, right? So I think everybody made peace with give it your best shot and let's see what the answer is. And then yeah, just the other point is the rumor I did hear but it is pure rumor was that Newport Beach may be the test case for that. Yeah and actually one of our speakers mentioned it last time that they were adopting some ordinances because they have a multi-million dollar program so I think that's sort of one of the cities we're watching right now.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:54:39

If there's nothing else we'll go ahead take roll call.

Roll call, called by City Clerk
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Councilmember Gama? Yes Councilmember Lopez? Yes. Councilmember Perez? Yes. Mayor McQueen-Lejeune? Yes Motion passes 4-0 with the mayor Pro Tem Hernandez absent

Great, thank you. We're gonna move to our business item number eight fiscal year 2024-25 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report. Staff? Thank you. Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:55:04

I'm going to introduce our finance director Ashley Shaparo who will likely introduce our auditors but just to give a little bit of an introduction about the audit before our auditor takes over so with that I'll hand it over to Ashley

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:55:24

Sure thank you. Good evening Mayor and City Council I'd like to introduce Adam Guise he's our CPA and partner at Moss Levy Hardsheim. He's been the city's third party auditor for the last three years we are happy to report the finance team is happy to report that the city received a clean unmodified opinion on our financial statements for the fiscal year ended June 30th 2025. That's the report that was provided to you all with this item Adam will now present from his external independent point of view some information about the audit that our team went through, of all our internal controls and the annual comprehensive financial report.

So I'll let him take it away.

CommentAdam GeisProposedself-stated2:56:12

Hi can you guys hear me? Yes Hi, so my name is Adam Geis. I was the partner in charge of the city's audit this last year from the firm Moss Levy and Hartsheim. And what you have here is the final audited annual comprehensive financial report or acronym is ACFR. As Ashley stated, we did issue an unmodified opinion which is the best kind of audit opinion. Basically what it means is we were able to complete all of the audit procedures get all the backup information that we needed and that we agree with the numbers presented in the financial statements.

Just for a quick kind of high level overview I wanted to point out that pages 3 through 11 of this rather lengthy document is the management's discussion analysis. If you're just looking for a quick summary of some of the overall changes from year-to-year, as well as some text along with it to kind of explain what happened, that would be the portion to look at.

But I do encourage everybody to review the finances and the numbers throughout the report. Just to hit on a few items, as Ashley mentioned we came out to the city for a few visits during the year and we tested various internal controls over how the city Runs its payroll, takes in receipts from various departments not just the regular finance department but from various different sections of the city and looked at disbursements and other items and processes that the city controls.

And I'm happy to report that we have no significant deficiencies or other findings to report which is excellent. We had a few adjustments that we helped the city make, but those were mostly in newer GASB standard areas dealing with pension, retiree health benefits, leases and IT subscriptions. And we worked with the city in order to prepare those adjustments and make sure that all of the accurate numbers are reported.

Just to touch on a few things. There was a prior period adjustment that you'll notice. There's a note at the end of the notes as well as on the government fund statements and on the business type statements totaling about 4.3, 4.2, 4 point 3 million. And this was as we were going through the procedures during the year when we realized that the pension And retiree health benefits, the trust accounts that were set up for funding those programs met the qualifications to be a fiduciary fund of the city. So those set asides were moved out of the government and business type funds and into its own fiduciary fund statements to track those trust accounts so that wasn't You know, money just disappearing from the city that was just moving from one type of fund to another type of fund.

And that it's good that the city has those trust funds created in order to fund those liabilities. The City General Fund this year decreased by about $3.6 million over the course of the year. A large portion of this was planned capital spending On items such as the Bubbling Springs Park. But I do want to note when you look at the budget comparison pages, this was actually about $6.4 million better than budgeted.

There was an increase in tax revenue and intergovernmental revenue, and then a little bit less in terms of spending as what was originally budgeted. The water and wastewater fund Spent a little bit more than revenue taken in during the year. The solid waste and the housing funds were a little bit more underfunded, so I did want to point out that in terms of your business type funds they're not fully supported by fees this last year but at least with the water and wastewater they were fairly close But there are, you know as things change from year to year that's something to keep an eye on.

You know those funds still had strong fund balances and net positions at the end of the year but definitely keep an eye on that. For the pension and retiree health or OPEB that I mentioned earlier. If you look at the required supplementary information section of the report, specifically pages 69 through 72, GASB requires the city to report its estimated pension liabilities and retiree health or OPEB liabilities.

Just to point out how that compares to actual money spent on those items during the year, Net pension liability came to about $41.7 million for the city. The actual amount spent contributed to CalPERS or the trust was about 5.2 million. For the retiree health, or the OPEB liability, the total net OPEB liability was about 3.1 million. The actual amount spent on retiree health benefits and contributed was about 506,000.

Just point out the comparison between the long-term liabilities and the actual spending from year to year. Overall, I just wanted to say that the city has strong systems in place and that helps create the reliable numbers for for you guys to look at and help in making decisions. I want to thank Ashley and James, and all of the city staff for getting us all of the documentation and explanations and everything that we require when we come out to perform the audit and all the work after that in order to get all the numbers and all of our questions wrapped up.

help in their organization and how well they are operating the city. That's pretty much all I wanted to go over, I'll open it back up to you guys if you guys have any questions.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:03:47

Any questions? No questions? We have no questions on this side so thank you so much.

CommentMark PetrassoProposedself-stated3:03:55

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:04:00

I just highlight one thing. I think that comment about that we utilized $4 million in that fiscal year for the bubbling Springs Park project, but that we did $6 million better than what the budget had planned for. And I just wanted to highlight that because I think that goes back to that first conversation we had as a group when I arrived and with the council where, you know, we talked about we can't do all of these things and we can't afford to do all of these things So let's focus on the bubbling Springs Park and we have a grant that covers you know, the bulk of that but we need to have what available money. We do have we need to put into that and and not drain our reserves all in one year. And so I think you can, this is the audit now and the way budget documents work how that year we were looking at the budget for the next year and now we're looking at the audit looking back but this is the document that shows that the council made those difficult decisions and that we got the Bubbling Springs Park project done and salvaged the grants and all those things for that But we didn't drain our reserves to do it, and we didn't end up in a situation where we had no reserve funds left moving forward.

So I just think that's really a key takeaway on this that now looking back it feels so long ago but it was you know a few years back and that decision was made and that's positioned us better for the future moving forward. With that we recommend receiving and filing the 2425 ACFR.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:06:00

Great, thank you. Madam Clerk do we have any public comments? No

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:06:03

public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:06:05

So the recommendation is to receive and file the fiscal year 2024-25 annual comprehensive financial report. Let's see, this item is received and filed no action is required by the council and no vote will be taken on this matter so that's a closing of number eight

we'll move on to item number nine. Thank you Ashley thank you so much.

We'll move on to item number nine that's the community benefit fund projects

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:06:35

And so as Council knows we adopted a council approved a modified Community Benefit Fund process at our last meeting and so with that this item is really brought for Really two reasons one is with that and that change to the process. The council can identify A new process for the community benefit fund projects, and then also we wanted to bring forward some of the projects that either had been discussed or that would be potentially funded by the Community Benefit Fund.

I think there's two sort of important like distinctions and one is as we talked about last week, our last meeting so every year essentially January 1st we will get a $70,000 annual Community Benefit Fund payment Assuming that the factors are met, that the port meets the certain benchmarks. And so with that portion, the annual amount our recommendation is the things that we've been doing as part of the CBF and the thing like the 5k event that was shown earlier that those are annual events they're continuing now they have a cost every year so those things we should just identify right away as the items that are annual projects. And so we recommend two that We believe meet the criteria for the under the amendment is beach erosion beacon annual membership to support The beach erosion issue which is a category in the amendment and then the 5k sea splash color dash event Which is an event that the city in the port of health?

So I'm going to go ahead and get started. We recommend just setting those as the annual projects and as long as we're receiving that $70,000 and those benchmarks are met that we'd be able to maintain those two items. But then second and the one that's probably a longer conversation And, you know, Council may want to talk about even how this gets decided would be the one-time projects that could be funded from the prior pot of funding which is about $196,000.

And so we listed a couple that we knew the council had talked about previously like the left turn signal analysis at Hueneme and Ventura Road We had listed a couple of ideas, a wayfinding signage program or economic development grants which is something specifically authorized in the contract. So, so those are some possible one-time projects but also you know I'm sure the council may have some ideas.

We've also heard some ideas from members of the public. So that one you know we could pick a project, we can identify a process, we can you know there's options to do but this item is on the agenda to allow the council to discuss that and as I said we recommend setting those two projects that plan to do annually that are projects that the council has indicated they plan to do annually as the annual projects and then giving direction on how the council wants to proceed on using the $196,000 prior year pot of money. So with that we're happy to answer any questions I think um the one thing will that i anticipate staff will note is as projects are discussed we'll try to remind everybody of what those Items are in the contract and if the projects would apparently satisfy the contract or it may be an issue, but we're happy to answer questions as well.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:10:40

Before you go to that, I just want to add the contract amendment has a portion in it that says that the city attorney and or general counsel for the port provide their concurrence to the board that any proposed projects meet the criteria as set forth in the settlement agreement. So, James has sent some of those over to me ahead of time before we had this meeting.

The two proposed to be funded annually I think easily fit into the agreement into categories A and B. And the first one, the turn signal for the one-time project I think does also. I did withhold concurrence on numbers two and three in the one time projects. I think they likely will but the devil's in the details a little bit so until we have kind of some final project Criteria and some more details. That's the only reason I didn't give a full Yeah, these are good to go yet just because but if they are I think they should still be considered I think we likely can make them work I just Need to see that and then we'll report back to you as required by the contract if those are the direction we go in Can

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PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction3:11:59

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:11:59

advocate

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction3:12:00

for one of these programs?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:12:02

I think the council, assuming the council wants to have the full discussion is, the council can advocate for one of these or an alternate.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction3:12:11

I just want to provide just a little bit of context. So

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:12:16

let's do this first. Do you have any questions? Let's do the questions first. No, no questions.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:12:25

For number one, the left turn signal analysis, while I understand the analysis is $25,000 but in order to completely fix it's $350,000. So we don't have the funds at this time so I don't see why even putting the money into something we can't even do in the foreseeable future.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:12:48

That's fair. I think there's a couple of answers potentially and one would be, you know, we don't know what the analysis would say maybe the analysis says actually don't do it for this reason and that was... We previously had an analysis done I think like five years ago before I got here and my understanding is they said a left turn signal actually makes that intersection more dangerous But we were talking about, well, we can get a second opinion. And it's been five years later and let's see, you know? But yes, if they came back and said, yes, you need this turn signal, then we'd have to come up with another $150,000 which would be a challenge. And we don't have that funding identified so we'd have-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:13:30

So then we get this every year and there is no reason why we can't put this off until we're in a better position to be able to do that That's what the recommendation is. We hold off until that year that we're financially able to do it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:13:47

That's a possibility, yeah.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:13:49

So you mean rather than spend the money every year, hold it until we can do- Correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:13:54

Oh, I see.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:13:57

Yeah. That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:13:59

all the questions

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:13:59

I have. Go ahead.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:14:04

Questions? Yeah, I do. I'm just trying to not put a target on my back. The risk of sounding negative. So isn't this something the port should be responsible for? I mean, and I say this because of the volume of truck traffic and trucks are taking left turns on the Ventura Road and port traffic really is heavy so And I'm not a traffic engineer whatsoever, but I'm just trying to understand what are the...I've been told that the preferred route for port truck traffic particularly the bananas is rice interchanged to the processing and if it's not bananas, rice to the freeway.

Many times we see multi axle vehicles going down Ventura Road having a really hard time making that turn and You know, we've never really got an answer on that. So I don't know to me the safety issue is Related to the increased port traffic so if that's my non-traffic engineer opinion And then the other question I have is I'm probably 500 feet from that light.

I'm pretty sure if I look at the map,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:15:35

are you thinking of a conflict of interest type of issue? I think so light project. You probably thought you would fall under the public generally exception there this is something that benefits the Public generally and just like you drive on the street. So I don't think I Walk in the park too because I have

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:15:51

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:15:51

have a suggested I would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:15:52

like to Throw out there

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:16:02

Can I do it now?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:16:03

Yeah,

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:16:06

so second part of the question is can I advocate for something that's less than 500 feet from my house.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:16:17

You can for a public improvement like this, yes. Assuming that it doesn't have a material financial impact on you which I

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:16:24

don't believe. And regardless of that's when I would recuse myself when it's agendized and it's time to vote

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:16:31

on it? You would recuse yourself now for the entire item if that were the case. If you had an actual financial...

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:16:37

So I cannot advocate for something like a really nice soccer field in Miranda Park. I can't advocate for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:16:44

No, I'm saying you could advocate for a...

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:16:48

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:16:50

I'm saying if we're talking about the turn signal analysis that's what you're talking about?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:16:56

Well I'm talking about that and Miranda Park because they're both like...

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:16:59

Two separate things.

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:17:02

because I want to advocate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:17:24

There is an exception to the conflict of interest rules when the impact affects the public generally the same for everybody. And this is basically why you can vote on So I don't have any issue necessarily with a turn signal analysis because I don't see how that would impact you. That's different, that could be different from a commercial development. A park which will have direct effect on, could have direct material effects on property values.

Things of that nature so it is a bit fact dependent.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:18:17

All right, so we had questions. No other

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:18:19

questions? You could you I don't have I don't think you have an issue bringing up that's something you'd like to advocate you'd like to see as a park But if that item came up or came back for a vote or came in item We would definitely want to talk about whether or not you can participate in that or not

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:18:36

Yeah, so what I would say that is we were anticipating having a soccer field and we don't have a soccer field. We have two small soccer fields and so what I was going to advocate for was having a full-size soccer field at Miranda Park maybe using that money something That's it

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:19:02

Okay. Before we get any further, do we have any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:19:05

No public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:19:06

Great. So are...do we want to have a discussion? Are we ready to have a discussion about...about items that... Yeah.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction3:19:15

I wanted to talk about item three.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:19:18

Okay. Go ahead.

PresenterFrank MonalocoProposed · by introduction3:19:19

So item three is EDC, the Economic Development Collaboration and they run a small business loan program and currently manage four cities within Ventura County The city pulls money into a fund that they manage. So it's not, it's a city-driven program so any business within the area code 93041 would be eligible to receive a small business loan. There's no additional work for the city, nothing is done, it's managed by EDC.

Now the money that's pulled into that program is it becomes self-sustaining. So they're probably going to ask for three 50 year pools of money, like $50,000, to get it to $150,000. Like $50K one year and $50k the next year. And what it does, it becomes self-sustaining. So any small business can go for a small business loan and the money is basically pulled back into that fund.

So once it becomes self-sustaining really it's an economic development small business program within the city of 93041, which would be good for our small businesses that need upgrades. So this would be something that we could have EDC come brief so we can actually get the full understanding of the program. That's all I got.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:20:56

Thank you. Anyone else? This says, so tell me what does it says economic development grant?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:21:13

So that's the program Councilmember Lopez just mentioned. Let me put it this way, so the contract with the port that lists what are eligible items specifically lists economic development grants as eligible under category C opportunistic

CommentDede BeemanProposed · by introduction3:21:31

endeavors.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:21:34

Again, when we were trying to put the list together and went through some prior council meetings and things that people brought up We looked for the ones that we thought fit right into those categories. So, that's why I had it identified as Economic Development Grant because that's what the contract says and then our project that fit into that category was the potential of the EDCVC Business Assistance Loan Fund So we had talked about doing it previously. It's funny, I think the first year like Thousand Oaks was the only city that did it because Thousand Oaks is the city that can afford that typically.

Just with the auto center and the mall, Thousand Oaks their budget's generally pretty healthy but I think in the last couple years, I think Santa Paula and Fillmore and Camarillo have also started so There are more and more cities who have been kind of picking up on that idea. So, that's listed as one of the options. And to what Paul said a moment ago, interestingly enough the wayfinding signage project which is the one we were actually working on with the port I think on Paul's review he's not sure that actually would be an approved project under the contract But as he said earlier, economic development grants are listed but it might depend on the detail of how we end up doing that. So I think that's one that maybe if there is interest maybe the idea of a follow-up with EDCVC at a future meeting might be a good idea to really make sure we know how it works and that we know it would work under the contract so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:23:17

I would definitely support that over signage.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:23:41

But I'll also say that like it is interesting like with the way the economy is going and you know everything. Like the idea of putting new signs up is probably seems less important now than supporting small businesses so whereas maybe three years ago it didn't seem maybe that would have been kind of vice versa. So so that's something we're thinking about.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:24:04

I think at that time it was a great idea and you were looking for easy ways of improving our economic development.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:24:13

Yeah but I agree, I think it's funny but there is a time and place for everything and I think that time has sort of passed and there are other ideas that make more sense now.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:24:24

Yeah I definitely need a lot more discussion and information on 50,000 incremental grants which are supposed to be sustainable and I think in a community like ours you know we're not Camarillo or Thousand Oaks. Santa Paula is Kind of unique as well But when you get to the city of Port Hueneme, I think we just we just have very little businesses to offer that too So I'm not sure Anyways, I'd like more information on that And then That was at the Carl's Demolition kick off this weekend.

And What I found really interesting is that it's an intersection of economic opportunity That I don't know how we could influence That property owner like to consider something that will benefit the city benefit his holding but You know, if you just think about that intersection, you got the Navy base You've got the City of Port Hueneme, you've got the City of Oxford, you've got the County of Ventura, you got Channel Islands Harbor Mean it really is something that could benefit all communities, right? And how do we How do we like is it legal? Is it permissible to approach that landowner next to write aid and say hey What are your plans for this property? What can we do? We know this Carl's Investment project is coming in and it's gonna be it's beautiful.

And so that's what I find frustrating as you know, how do we Get conversations with people that have that very, very limited resource open land.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:26:19

James has started a conversation with him.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:26:22

Yes, I was going to note a just so we're talking about community benefit fund and I know now we're talking about economic development But it's specifically a project not just you know economic development but we actually have had those meetings with that the Olvera Plaza group and then also the Ash car property, which is the right next to it and we brought them in and we Educated them on the Carl's project and showed them some of the renderings and all that and trying to you know Actually just talked to a resident before the meeting where they said Hey like try to get the word out that this area is gonna be the crown jewel soon And I said we are we're actually You know We've met with the property owners and reminded them of that too. So so that is something we're doing so but So that's what we're doing, just general economic development.

But this item, we're supposed to be limited to community benefit fund projects.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:27:21

So do we need to approve number one and two?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:27:24

That was my next comment. Are we in agreement with that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:27:27

Do we have any...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:27:28

Yeah, so item one and two of the annual, and then we can invite ADCBC to a future

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:27:35

meeting to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:27:35

present

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:27:36

on that. Right, right. I think that's good. So can we go ahead and just Are we okay with waiting for the other portion, the 196 and have another discussion so we can take it all in one vote? Okay. So would someone like to state the motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:27:56

Move to approve items 1 and 2 and to bring back the EDC for further discussion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:28:02

It's one in two of the annual. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:28:06

items 1 and 2 of the annual.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:28:08

Thank you. Great, is there a second? Second. Great thank you any further discussion?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:28:15

Do we have a process to where we could submit other ideas

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:28:21

Well, so since the

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:28:24

for that other portion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:28:25

Yes, it's another portions not Getting approved yet,

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:28:29

correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:28:29

So we'll have to have another conversation so there's still time for the council to think about other projects or even You know one thing I didn't really get into is like if there's a process We want to follow because before we did have a specific process that had to go through different groups and things And so now you know We can start all over because we have the amendment that changes it, but you may want to think about that as part of your next conversation. Is there a process we want to do and then do we know what projects we want to do?

Yeah, I think that's essentially what we do. So I think how I envision it right now is we'd invite EDCVC to come to a meeting. You know, I imagine they'll be excited so that they'll try to come to one of the next couple. So then they come back and we probably write that item brought enough to have EDC VC present and then to give the council the opportunity to discuss it further at that time.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:29:32

But I also think we should entertain other ideas that, I mean that, to me that idea just doesn't make

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:29:40

sense. When you mentioned about coming up with a new process, I imagine you're talking about because we have a process that goes through the CACs? Yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:29:52

Yeah, and so I guess that's really the question. It's like right now the CAC has a work list this is on there but it's on there to review before it goes to the port joint meetings

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:30:05

which we don't have anymore. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:30:06

I think would be justified for the council to say you know we set that up for that process but we don'y have that process anymore so we can eliminate that process? But I just want to I wanted to highlight that you know we will need to make that decision at some point.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:30:24

Okay so we have a motion in a second if there's nothing else. Madam Clerk?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:30:29

Hold on, so as it stands as we take this vote then we're only going to consider the one option two options. We're voting for Beacon and...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:30:40

Approving the 2 annual and then scheduling a future discussion where EDCVC will present but doesn't mean...

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:30:49

What about other ideas?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:30:51

Council can bring forward other

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:30:54

And so my only concern is if we do it by agenda, then we have to write it up and then it has to go. And then it'll be at another agenda day or another meeting date.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:31:06

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:31:06

would say the Council can include that we bring forward any ideas submitted by council members between now and then. Yeah,

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:31:16

I'd like to amend the motion to include that way we could use all our time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:31:26

I

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:31:29

don't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:31:30

even know if that's necessary to amend because the action is to come back at a future meeting and anything can be added to the agenda at that future meeting, and to approve the other two. So at this point you're just counting on your city manager doing what you're asking for and to agendize the things that you all sent him.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:31:51

So what I'm hearing is, yeah. I don't like the laugh. That means you don't have that confidence. But we'll agendize it broad enough that it will be a discussion of the one-time Community Benefit Fund projects including a presentation from EDCBC.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:32:16

So my motion still stands,

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:32:18

okay And we have first and second. So can we take a roll call please all in favor?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:32:23

All opposed Hearing none motion passes unanimously

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:32:27

great. Thank you And so that was our final business item. We're gonna go to no request for future agenda items city manager yes,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:32:40

I have a Presentation I will try to keep brief. We just wanted to highlight some of the The recent happenings and good things going on. So I know the Inspiration end up highlighting Parks and Recreation Month, so I won't get too detailed But we had some photos of some of the great events We had and I would say this surprise we had a good turnout at most of them which wasn't a surprise but the one surprises when it we had done a walking tour once before and only had a few people show up and And you can see on the bottom right there, we had a pretty big crowd show up for the walking tour this year. So that was nice to see and a chance to show off the museum and some of the historical parts of our community. So Parks and Rec came up with a lot of ideas and we wanted to highlight that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:33:27

I think our first walking tour was probably primarily city staff

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:33:30

as well. It was all city staff walking around. Us and the REC people, yeah. And so I wanted to go this year and it was funny, I made the joke, I was like yeah it might just be me and REC you know like they might not be too excited and then we got pulled into negotiations and so I missed it and then I got the picture and I was like wow that's a good turnout so that's nice to see.

And then, so another thing wanted to highlight was I wanted to say last week but now yeah maybe it was two weeks ago times flying. We had our national night out all the police agencies in the county held a national night out and we joined and we held it for the first time at our Bubbling Springs Park. So that was kind of cool trying out a different location with a little more space than in the past, and so we appreciate everybody coming out seeing our drones, our canine officer and our motorcycle are always popular at those events. And then we also included our county partners as part of it as well.

We also wanted to highlight those that have seen the work occurring at North Ventura Road and East Clara Street. And wondering what that was is we were doing some curb ramp improvements, it's a major intersection for kids trying to get to school and so we wanted to do our curb ramp improvements before back-to-school week which I think is this week and so we were able to get it done before that And to upgrade the crosswalk and just try to help that area be more accessible and pedestrian safe. Oh there it is, students return to school I believe on August 20th so we were trying to get that done ahead of time and get the crosswalk safer and more accessible for our kids.

And so for September 8th, September 8's agenda right now the items we have scheduled include National Emergency Preparedness Month and 9-11 proclamation. National Suicide Month proclamation on consent we had noted if approved tonight the second reading of the short term rental ordinance would come back so we have that listed And then for business items, the grand jury did a countywide fireworks response report basically highlighting how all the agencies can work together better in the future. So we plan to bring Our responses to that forward to the council.

And then we had scheduled the Hueneme Hero Award policy review, that the council had requested that the policy come back. And the other thing we wanted to start a conversation on is reviewing our beach parking fees and looking at those and how they compare to the cities around us. So we'll be bringing those items forward on September 8th. We will based on tonight I was dark the month of August.

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction3:37:09

Do you have anything? So I attended the CJPIA annual board meeting on July 22nd. It's 78 miles from here, and it took me three hours to get there. And I thought I'd looked at my notes. And so I took my notes and I put a brief thing together to give us some good understanding So JPA, Joint Powers Authority, they came into being in the 80s because there was a liability insurance crisis and so public agencies decided to pool their resources together so they could get cost savings over time, greater control of their claims management, customized coverages and data and risk insights. Avoidance of huge premium fluctuations. So the California JPIA was formed in the 80s and it was formed with originally 33 members.

Liability insurance is rising, and the example that the CEO gave was in 1994 I remember this. A woman was spilled coffee on her at McDonald's and she got a $2.7 million settlement because she got third degree burns. And people thought that was outrageous at the time And then in 2025, there's a Starbucks case. Very similar facts and it led to a $50 million judgment. So when we see our liability insurance rising like it did this year over last year, it's not because we've had claims. It's because of what they're calling social inflation.

And then at the meeting, we approved the 128th city coming into the CJPIA which is a City of Thousand Oaks. When I first became a city council member, the city of Port Hueneme was in timeout so to speak with this CJPIA and what that means is if you have bad experience Not performing well, they will drop you from the pool. Too many lawsuits right? And so they put us in like a performance improvement plan and the city has recovered and they're grateful for that and we all should be happy. This is a really complicated thing but I just want to show you that being a part of a pool of 128 cities What that does is creates these layers of insurance and what you see in the dark part here, that's what they call a retention, self-insured retention levels.

And so most of the claims are paid from the resources of our pool And then as they migrate into these higher levels of insurance layers, these different stratas of insurance will pop in. So you have first dollar coverage and then as claims get more expensive, then you have these different layers that kick in. That market is always changing and the liability market is really stressful right now. So they also established what's called a captive, it's Sequoia Pacific Reinsurance Company.

If in the unexpected event that we pierced all those levels of insurance then the captive would take over and start Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In terms of every dollar that we send over to the JPA, 62 cents of each dollar is for claims costs. 19 cents for excess insurance, 6 cents for training, 6 cents for salary and benefits so you know it's a really good ratio and 5 cents for administration of claims and 2 cents for operating expenses Training hours. There's in 2025 141,000 training hours by members of the California Joint Powers Insurance Association and 57,000 participants in 1,690 person classroom training so the trainings are free and it's highly recommended that the city utilize these resources as much as possible So the bottom line is we have excellent coverage provided by a specialized group which deals only with cities and other public agencies.

We have training opportunities for all classes of employees, we benefit from data and risk sharing, and we have access to risk management professionals. That's it.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:42:11

All right. I had one meeting this month, so most of my committees have been dark, so I don't really have anything to report. Is there anything else? Any old by the ways? Nobody? Nope. If not we are going to adjourn this meeting. Labor Day holiday, due to the Labor Day holiday our next meeting will be Tuesday September 8th at 630. So this meeting is now adjourned and it is 9 0 8.