BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 October 5, 2026

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:52

Welcome to the City Council meeting. I am calling this meeting to order the time is now 6 p.m Madam clerk, please take roll councilmember Gorman We'll now take public comments pertaining to our closed session item. Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:21

Do we have any public comments?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:35

We'll now

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:37

hear our closed session item read into the record by our Mr.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:41

City Attorney

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:50

Yeah, we'll be going into closed session tonight pursuant to Government Code Section 54957.6 with respect to discussions with the Unrepresented Management and Professional Employees Association. The agency's representatives are James Vega, City Manager, Charles Peretz, Deputy City Manager and Frank Lee, Human Resources Risk Manager.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:11

Great, thank you. Do any of the council members have any conflict of interest to disclose at this time?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:16

No.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role3:18

Thank you. I will now recess to closed session, the time is 601.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed32:12

I was like,

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role32:13

you're not gonna. Good evening everyone and welcome to the City Council regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order, the time is 631. Please stand as our Mayor Pro Tem leaves us in the Pledge of Allegiance Madam Clerk, please take roll.

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role33:41

Council Member Goma? Here. Council Member Lopez?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed33:45

Here.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role33:46

Council Member Perez? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Hernandez? Here and Mayor McQueen-Lachon?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role33:50

Here And I have the awesome responsibility to do the inspiration tonight, so I'm going to start. I know we're going to be doing a proclamation for breast cancer awareness but I want to start with talking a little bit about that tonight. So as we recognize Breast Cancer Awareness Month tonight, I would like to take a moment to think beyond the color pink and reflect on the people, families and communities represented by it.

Breast cancer touches lives in many different ways. And while I have never been diagnosed with a breast cancer, I have had five scares which resulted in both surgical and needle biopsies. And at each stage after the first, I question in my mind will this be the time? But for me, the time has never come and I'm tremendously grateful. For some it's a personal diagnosis. For others it's the experience of standing beside a mother, a sister, a daughter, a wife, a friend, a colleague, a loved one and in about 1% of all diagnoses, a father through uncertainty treatment recovery and sometimes loss Tonight, I especially want to recognize the courage of those currently facing breast cancer.

Celebrate the strength of survivors. Acknowledge the caregivers and healthcare professionals who walk alongside them and honor the memory of those we have lost. Awareness is important but awareness must also lead to action. Let this month remind us of the importance of a routine screenings, early detection, access to quality health care, continued research and supporting one another not only during October but throughout the year.

And perhaps most importantly let us remember That behind every diagnosis is a person, a person with a family, a story, hopes, dreams and a future worth fighting for. So as a community may we continue to lead with compassion encourage one another and take care of our health and stand beside those traveling this journey so thank you So now we'll move to closed session report. Mr. City Attorney, please provide the report

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction36:25

there was no reportable action tonight

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role36:27

Great. Thank you so we're going to Move to public comments. These are comments that are not agendized tonight madam clerk Do we have any public comments? Not on the agenda?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role36:40

Yes, we have a public comment from James Lancaster You could come to the podium

PresenterJames Lancastermy elderly motherProposedself-stated37:04

Good evening mayor members of the City Council and city manager Vega. My name is James Lancaster and I am standing here tonight on behalf of my elderly mother, Todd Lancaster, proud resident and utility account holder in Port Hueneme for 47 consecutive years since 1979. For nearly five decades my mother's maintained a pristine payment history however since the city has migrated to its new billing platform The finance department has systematically failed in statutory duty to deliver physical monthly invoices to her mailbox.

City has had direct verbal and written notice of this systemic issue for over six months, and this administration cannot claim ignorance. In March 2026, I called the utility department and spoke directly with the Utility Billing Manager and Assistant City Manager regarding chronic late arrival of my mother's bills. Utility bills to be specific. And management finally stated that bill had been sent out and offered alternative electronic ways to pay.

When verbal alerts were ignored, I escalated on July 7th, 2026. Served the mayor and the city manager with a written complaint through certified mail. City responded in writing but their letter offered absolutely no technical fix to restore her paper billing. Instead, they used the opportunity to aggressively push alternative electronic payment methods and by the way I have the latest letter, sorry, letter and on it there's probably a paragraph on different ways to pay yet there's only one sentence that I guess owns up to the responsibility of not giving my mother her bill Continuing, the negligence has only worsened. Just days ago on September 22nd, 2026 I was forced to yet file yet another formal complaint at City Hall.

I presented clear proof that the city failed to deliver her August statement and instead bypassed a mandatory bill entirely to send a punitive delinquency notice carrying an automated 10% penalty under municipal code section 7102.10. Let me be entirely clear, this practice is a direct violation of state law under the California Uniform Electronic Transaction Act, California Civil Code Section 1633.5. A municipal government cannot compel, coerce or imply a resident's consent. Thank

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role40:12

you so much. Your time is up but City Manager do we know anything about this?

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction40:21

Yes and I would recommend, and I did send a letter back to Mr. Lancaster recently also recommending that he check in with our finance department to discuss any concerns. I'm not aware of any issue that's in any... I know that this letter that we just got has several references to violations of state law. I don't believe any of those are correct or accurate And I think that the city has offered alternative payment options and that's being kind of presented as The city trying to force people to use other options, but they still have all the options They've always had so I don't believe there's any issue. That needs to be addressed at this point But I will I did ask our City Attorney to look and see if there was any Statutory issues or anything that I wasn't aware of so I would suggest Also asking the City Attorney

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role41:17

Okay, did you have anything?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction41:19

Sure, I had an opportunity to look at the comment letter submitted this afternoon. From a legal standpoint, I disagree with Mr. Lancaster that the city has a statutory duty to provide a physical written invoice. There's no such statutory duty. What the UETA does where he is correct is that we do have to accept mailed-in payments and not exclusively require them to do the electronic transaction online. But there's no affirmative duty that we do mail them. I talked to staff this afternoon and found out that we do, in fact, mail them to those people who request them so that is kind of a moot point regardless of that obligation and that we do accept payment that is mailed in. We accept payment over the counter. It can be walked in any of those are available.

The electronic is an alternative it is the preferred alternative but it is not the only alternative

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role42:15

Great, thank you. And thank you I apologize I have your letter but it was here and I had not read it so I will definitely read that but please continue to go through the city to try to get whatever remedy you think you deserve as far as your bills are concerned and so there's nothing that we can it's not on our agenda but so it's nothing that we can discuss with you here tonight

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction42:36

Okay, the letter we sent did give you the point of contact from finance So if you don't like one of the options that exists Finance has several options that they could offer you.

PresenterJames Lancastermy elderly motherProposedself-stated42:46

Okay, but is she required? To pay up the bill other than the melon way because that's how she's done for all these years No, is that a requirement required? Okay, but she so we're back to this to the original problem She doesn't get to build and when she does it's late

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction43:03

So

PresenterJames Lancastermy elderly motherProposedself-stated43:04

That was never addressed in

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction43:05

the letter. If you elect to use the U.S. mail for your mailing, the city's legal obligation is to put it in the mail but we don't after that when they receive it or if they receive it is one of the hazards of using that system.

PresenterJames Lancastermy elderly motherProposedself-stated43:23

But you also posted on Facebook that there were issues with the mail?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction43:26

Yes, we posted the one time that there was an issue with the mail. And

PresenterJames Lancastermy elderly motherProposedself-stated43:29

I'd like to also add that okay so for the electric bill and the telephone bill no issues?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction43:35

So again this is why we recommended connecting with finance because they can go through all those options it sounds like the option you want is an option that's available so you don't know you don'y like the other options but you don''t need to address those options there is the option that you have asked for which is submitting paper payment And

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role43:53

so, sir you had three minutes and that's the public the time that you get for your public comments. So if you would follow the letter and contact to the information so the city has already given you information. So follow up that way and if you don't have any resolution then you can come back to us. Okay we'll do thank you appreciate that thank you so much

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role44:14

Greg Camarillo

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed44:22

I submitted a couple of pictures due to my property at 136 West C Street. I still haven't gotten any resolution, so now I put in a civil code or let's call it a property code, California residential code that requires emergency egress windows on all sleeping rooms and basements and they have to be Must open directly into a public way, yard or court. Free and clear of access of any debris, hedges, anything that can't be moved and clearly the picture shows that I don't have that. And I brought it to everybody. I think Mr.

Gamak, you came out and looked at it. So now I have three cars that block my passageway. Google Maps that shows the original parking, and I sent another picture now. So now my neighbor's taking over the next-door neighbor's house that's up for sale but they're not using the driveway and he has three more cars parked there that are blocking their access. So I'm doing my cabinets and I had the Edison guy come out to shut off the power and he wouldn't shut it off because there's not 3 feet of clearance that I have.

And I think Mr. Gama, you told me you would help address it and I have never heard back from you. And you drove out to my house and you've seen what I was dealing with. I still can't put up a fence. My fence is – the backyard is just a mess from – I mean, it's a mess. You've seen it. But everybody says it's a civil issue. How is it a civil issue if Google Maps shows what the house looked like before to what it is now?

You guys all have the pictures, and how can you guys help me resolve my issue?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role46:13

Okay. Sir, this is public comment time so it's not on the agenda so we can't have a discussion about it. So you said you've submitted... I haven't seen them so I'm not really sure what exactly you're talking about. So

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction46:28

if

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role46:28

there are

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction46:28

some new photos we can have those given to the Code Enforcement Department and then the Code Enforcement Department can follow up.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed46:35

Okay great thank you. That's why I've been told for the last year and

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role46:42

I understand that. Our city manager

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed46:44

just said— So now, excuse me, I submitted a thing now with the fire code that he should be in violation of that my windows open in but there's not clear and free access to the street?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction46:58

So we aren't able to discuss confidential code enforcement actions and you have property rights, your neighbor has property rights. We're not going to discuss those property rights in public but our Code Enforcement Department will look at the pictures you've sent and they will follow up accordingly.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed47:13

And the civil code or the fire hazard?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction47:16

Whatever you've submitted.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role47:18

Thank

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role47:18

you. No further public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role47:25

We're going to now move to the agenda approval. May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda? Move to approve.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed47:32

Second.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role47:33

Madam Clerk, please take a vote.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role47:35

All in favor?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role47:36

Aye.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role47:36

All opposed? Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role47:40

Great. Do any members of Council have any conflicts of interest to disclose regarding any agenda item? If not, we're going to move to our presentations. First, please welcome St. John's Medical Center Common Spirit Cancer Treatment Team. Are they here in the room? Not here? Okay at this time you want to read the proclamation. Thank You Mayor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed48:14

So my sister suffered from stage four breast cancer, which has spread. And it wasn't looking good when she started her treatment and I'm happy to report that it's been 15 years and she was just out here last week visiting so there is hope for those unfortunate enough to be diagnosed with breast cancer. I also wanted to say that breast cancer is the gender equivalent of prostate cancer, which I know a lot about. I've been treating for almost 10 years now.

So breast cancer feeds on estrogen. Prostate cancer feeds on testosterone. So they're gender equivalent. So when you think about anybody with breast cancer, remember about those of us who suffer as well. So here we go. Whereas breast cancer is one of the most common cancers among women in the United States and around the world, affecting millions of individuals and families each year. And whereas while considerable progress has been made in the fight against breast cancer it remains a leading cause of cancer related to deaths among women in our country Whereas this year alone, an estimated 321,910 women and 2,670 men in the United States will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer. And an estimated 42,670 lives will be lost.

And whereas understanding breast cancer risk factors and receiving recommended screenings are important steps. Towards prevention and early detection, individuals are encouraged to speak with their health care providers about their personal risks and screening options. And whereas thanks to early detection and improved treatments mortality rates for breast cancer have steadily decreased. And whereas during National Breast Cancer Awareness Month we stand with all those affected by breast cancer and recognize The caregivers, advocates, researchers, healthcare professionals dedicated to providing hope, healing and compassionate care including Dignity Health, St. John's Regional Medical Center, Common Spirit Cancer Treatment Team and whereas by raising awareness supporting those affected in advancing innovative research and treatment we can improve the quality of life and move closer to a future free from this disease Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme hereby recognize October 2026 as Breast Cancer Awareness Month in the city of Port Hueneme and encourages a community to raise awareness and support ongoing fight against breast cancer.

And take it from me, it's really nice to be living with cancer.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role50:52

All right, thank you Councilmember Cama. Now let's move on to the Domestic Violence Awareness Month proclamation so please welcome Pat Magus our Port Hueneme Police Department domestic violence victims advocate to the podium. Come on. And we're going to have Councilmember Perez read the proclamation first and then over to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed51:26

Okay, thank you. Domestic Violence Awareness Month, October 2026. Whereas October is designated as Domestic Violence Awareness Month And whereas domestic violence is a crime which affects all races, cultures and social demographics. And whereas domestic violence has profound impact on families and the community. And whereas children that grow up in violent homes are believed to be abused and neglected at a higher rate than the national average. And whereas only a coordinated community effort will put a stop to this atrocious crime.

And whereas Domestic Violence Awareness Month provides an excellent opportunity for residents to learn more about preventing domestic violence and show support for the numerous residents. Oops, sorry and support for the numerous organizations and individuals who provide critical advocacy services assistance to victims. And whereas the Port Hueneme Police Department City of Port Hueneme and community based organizations are in a position to provide education information and services to assist victims in the understanding that they have a right to be safe Feel safe and live free from violence at home and in the workplace. And whereas we must all continue to help and advocate for victims, and the criminal justice system and law enforcement must continue to hold offenders accountable.

And whereas we will continue our efforts to end the violence in our homes, schools, and communities. Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme hereby recognizes October 2026 as Domestic Violence Awareness Month in the City of Port Hueneme and encourages the community to participate in programs and outreach efforts aimed towards educating and supporting those who are victims of domestic violence.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role53:12

Great thanks, Council Member Perez. Now whoever wants to speak first?

CommentAllegiance Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction53:16

Well I think I would like to if that's all right with you. Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council members, city managers, the attorney and city clerk I'm, I guess interim commander Mike Hamrick now for we'll see how long that lasts. But I'm here to represent the police department on behalf of Pat and her tireless work in domestic violence field. I can tell you personally when I arrived at the agency 15 years ago I've personally relied on Pat for guidance, education and support in helping our domestic violence victims as well as many officers.

Pat has been involved in domestic violence education and resource management for our victims not only in our city but in the county for over 25 years so if anyone deserves this award more than her it would be Pat I will tell you that Pat, one of the things that stands out when I can describe her level of dedication to this cause is one, her compassion for our victims who have come back and told us later as investigators and as supervisors that your victim advocate really helped me.

They provided me guidance, compassion, empathy, and gave them a wealth of information and directed them to the right location to get resources. But on another note, I think it's her responsiveness to us in the community as a police department. When we have called Pat sometimes this hasn't been obviously at one or two in the afternoon. It's usually late in the evening or early in the morning when we had an incident and she's always responsive. She responds quickly to text messages and phone calls and responds to our agency to help those victims so her responsiveness to this cause has been outstanding. So I just want to recognize that I had a chance also to meet her husband. I want to say thank you for your support for over 20 plus years of her doing this.

I met Lou this evening, so it takes a great team to do this and so they should be both commended for their hard work in this field. Thank you First

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed55:37

I want to thank Port Hueneme Police Department and the City Council Because your cooperation and understanding of this makes it possible to do what I want to do or need to do And my best teachers have been, I call them survivors. I know in the police department we call them victims but the survivors have taught me everything I know. They've taught me empathy, they've taught me understanding and they've taught me to put myself in their place and think of what they're going through.

My statistics aren't as nice as what you presented before but one in three women And the current one for men is 1 in 6, and that's underreported. I would say closer to at least 1 in 5. And the men who have had many more in the past couple years so I think the word's getting out there and the understanding's getting out there Men are underreported partly because they're stigmatized. No man would put up with this type of thing, but I love it when the men come to me because usually they're the ones taking care of the children now and that's what it's all about.

If we can't help the children, then it's not succeeding like it should. So I just want to say thank you. Thank you for the survivors, the children and even the perpetrators because sometimes we get a chance to educate them too. So thank you very much.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role57:13

Thank you. Council do you have any comments?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed57:18

Appreciate you know all that you do for the city. I know even if it's saving, you know one You know 20 you're breaking the cycle and so that we're very appreciative of the work that you've done So thank you for what you do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed57:35

Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed57:37

Yes as a person who prepares domestic violence restraining orders pretty regularly I have found that I've actually prepared a few four men and when I'm learning lately is more older generation, which is shocking. More older and seniors are starting to come in requesting restraining orders. But I know of your work my husband recently retired of 30 years Rick Perez with the PD so I've heard all about you and how you help out the PD. I've learned a lot about what you do over the years. So I thank you for your work because I know something that And I can imagine the emotional strain that it puts on you, because I know what it puts on me having to help these individuals prepare a restraining order. So it's not an easy job to do. So thank you for your dedication.

You're welcome. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed58:29

Pat, I want to thank you for clearly being dedicated to this cause. And it's okay to be lousy at public speaking especially when you're an expert at providing aid and comfort to domestic violence victims. The need, when the need arises and you being there is the most important aspect of this. And I think when a victim in the middle of the night sees that you care and then you show up and you engage, I think that speaks very well of the city at Port Hueneme as being the friendly city by the sea. And Pat, I mean you are the one leading that cause in these dark moments so thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed59:14

Thank you. Again, it's a team. We're a team so thank you for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed59:19

being part of that. Thank you so much Pat for your service over the years I just heard recently that the Carmen Ramirez Family Justice Center is going to be opening up which is going to be a helpful resource I think for you and your survivors I hope that you stay with us for a while, longer. And I don't think you're a bad public speaker. I didn't see anything wrong with what you had to say but thank you for being here tonight and thank you for your service to our city.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role59:47

Yes and thank you, yes for your service. I was thinking you know a lot of times we don't hear about the work that's being done in that area so sometimes it's quiet but the impact is great and so appreciate all that you do for women everywhere and the people that they touch and so thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:00:07

Thank you.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:00:10

And we're going to come down for a photo.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:00:52

One, two, three.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:01:24

Great, we'll now recess the City Council meeting and call to order the Housing Authority regular meeting. The time is now 659. Madam Clerk please take roll.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:01:35

Member Gama?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:36

Here.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:01:37

Member Lopez? Here. Member Perez? Here Vice Chair Hernandez? Here Chair McQueen-Lajon? Here And let the record reflect that member Brown is absent

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:01:47

Great, we'll now hear public comments not pertaining to the items on the agenda. Madam Clerk are there any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:01:54

No public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:01:55

Okay, are there any comments for the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:02:02

No comments for the consent calendar.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:02:04

Okay so the consent calendar will be approved in one motion unless someone wishes to pull an item. Any items to be re-pulled? If not, may I have a motion and a second to approve the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02:19

Move to approve the Housing Authority consent calendar.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:02:23

Second. Great Madam Clerk please take.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:02:26

All in favor?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:02:27

Aye.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:02:27

All opposed? Hearing none motion passes unanimously.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:02:32

Okay are there any reports from our authority members any report

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02:42

Report. I'm not in authority now.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:02:47

Housing. Okay, so if there's nothing else I will adjourn the Port Hueneme Housing Authority meeting. The next regular meeting is scheduled for Monday November 2nd at 630. We'll now reconvene the City Council regular meeting the time is now 701 And we will now take on the consent calendar for the City Council meeting. Madam Clerk, are there any public comments for the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:03:26

No public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:03:28

Again these items will be approved in one motion unless a council member wishes to remove an item. Any items to be removed for discussion? If there are done may I have a motion and a second to approve the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:03:45

Move approval.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:03:46

Second.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:03:47

Great, Madam Clerk?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:03:48

All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Hearing none motion passes unanimously.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:03:54

Okay we will move to business item number six that's the 2026-27 rainy season El Nino preparedness update let's see staff please present the report

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:04:10

yes thank you mayor We will be providing a report on the upcoming rainy season and El Nino preparedness. For the most part, it's going to be myself and our Public Works Director Fred Camarillo speaking as this El Nino preparedness is really a citywide effort that all departments are involved in but I think a lot of the heavy lifting on these are myself Well, City Manager's Office and Public Works Department, myself and Fred Camarillo to kind of coordinate those items. So we'll try to highlight all the things we're doing. I think one thing to kick off with is that we've been working on preparedness really nonstop around the clock for the last several years.

I think we talked a little bit previously about how many items we brought forward to the council to do things like drain replacements and things like that, that may not initially seem like they're storm preparedness related but they are because it's helping us to sort of make sure that we're always prepared Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So just as a starting point, at this point everybody's probably hearing about this. I think it's making headlines pretty frequently but an El Nino and perhaps a super El Nino is being forecasted this year so what is an El Nino? An El Nino is a natural ocean atmosphere pattern marked by warmer than normal sea surface temperatures in the equatorial Pacific Thank you very much.

It's a likelihood and so we want to make sure we prepare for the potential worst case scenario. And so El Nino is not a storm or an atmospheric river, so it's not something that determines an individual storm severity but it is a general atmospheric condition that creates more of a likelihood of storms. Our city team works with lots of partners, but including we're working currently I think we're meeting tomorrow with the weather service on becoming a storm ready community. So we work with our partners and we monitor National Weather Service forecasts and warnings as the rainy season approaches. We're already looking at things like king tides and those types of things and looking at what dates to expect those as well.

So, council asked for an item going over the El Nino preparedness. I believe it was two weeks ago and then in between on September 21st, think a couple days after the last meeting, the state issued a emergency proclamation for the upcoming El Ninos and winter storms So it's definitely something that is on a lot of agencies' minds and that we're working from the federal level, state level, county level and local levels to try to prepare for.

But so the good news is the state did an emergency proclamation to try to bring awareness and try to encourage agencies to prepare for storms The bad news is the proclamation actually doesn't give any money or assistance to cities. It just says, pay attention and cities do what you need to do so there is good but that was the first question when they announced there was some Zoom meetings and things and everybody said so what resources does this give us? And there weren't any.

But the proclamation does authorize, basically it gets the state ready to respond quickly if these conditions start occurring and not having to wait and go through normal processes. The state also organizes Cal OES, the California Office of Emergency Services. And so Cal OES is already directed to coordinate agencies and work with local and tribal governments on planning and resource requests.

And again, as mentioned a moment ago these disaster proclamations essentially streamline purchasing and permit processes so that agencies can move faster for preparation. So we're currently in that proclamation. And then the state also directs some of its agencies to stage flood fighting and road equipment to prepare and authorizes the National Guard to prepare for possible support. So it just helps to get more resources in place.

So that's happening at the state level and then at the city level we're working across many departments I'm gonna start with our housing and facilities department, which Maintains our city buildings in the pier. And so they've taken several steps to start preparing those items They've already they've continued to work on inspecting our City facilities our buildings are in the roofs Cleaning the roof drains, maintaining the police department sump pump basin and the spare pump. They've completed a work roof replacements in recent years focused on being better prepared for rainy weather so roof replacements at City Hall, the Community Center and Public Works and then there's an area of the Police Department roof that was recoded recently They've also added drainage and gutters at City Hall in the Police Department.

And they're, we're focusing on also maintaining backup generators and standby supplies. And just recently last year the Council approved a peer assessment so there was some work recommended in that peer assessment to help try to also make sure that the peers able to withstand some of these storm conditions. So that work is going to begin in November of 2026, so again just a lot of work ongoing to try to prepare our city facilities for a storm.

One of the other things that has happened really is there's been changes to some of the emergency operations procedures and sheltering procedures that we wanted to let everybody know about. Our city team and our police department have been attending the monthly emergency preparedness meetings with all of the city and county agencies We've also refurbished and expanded the Emergency Operations Center, replaced equipment and trained personnel for storm readiness in response. We actually have a an EOC training scheduled for this month as well to again just try to prepare for any potential disaster, storm or other So, an emergency operations center once activated coordinates the response shelters damage assessment debris clearing and restoration of city facilities and services within the city.

And so again we've refurbished our EOC and we're going to be doing our training in there this month. The police also deploy storm patrols as needed during a storm and coordinate with county state and federal partners And we just Well, and the Police Department is working with our lifeguard team to Utilize the lifeguard trucks and have them at the Police Department To be able to respond to high water which has been a challenge I think The last two major storms in the city, I think we've had vehicles that couldn't make it through the water level. So utilizing some of our heightened lifeguard trucks for those purposes.

And then the change we wanted to highlight for everybody is that there's been some changes to shelter processes in the county. This has actually been another project that we've been working on with the county for probably two to three years at this point, but you may recall that the county a few years ago said that they do not have the resources to operate emergency shelters in each city So essentially they asked each city to sign an agreement and then commit to work with them on standing up a potential shelter in each city.

With the thank you to our recreation team, they've been working on that in both preparing the community center as a potential emergency shelter but also all of the training that goes with it. And it is pretty intense, there's a lot of rules That people wouldn't think about, about who can be let in and how and what needs to happen if there's different groups of people and things like that. So it's quite intense.

So that's been a change over the last few years and we have that in place and our staff have been working to get that all coordinated. And then I think really most of the main event, we wanted to talk about how it really impacts all departments. But I think public works is really the key area that has been the ones making improvements throughout the city to try to help make sure that we're moving water as best as we can to be better prepared for an El Nino. So with that, I'll introduce Public Works Director Fred Camarillo to talk a little bit about some of the projects that have been done to do so.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:14:29

Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem Council, members of the audience. As you can see up there on the slide there's several things that we do and it's part of an annual maintenance program that we do every year but even more so when we expect much heavier events. Our catch basin inspections cleanouts maintaining our flood control stations to make sure that they're operating properly We had the repair work where we found a failed drain crossing at Bolker under Channel Islands that just recently finished so that's been repaired and so that is ready for the winter weather.

A few meetings ago, we came to you to authorize the purchase of pipe that we're going to be replacing going down Pearson and 8th Street to make sure that pipe is in good standing so when we get the weather coming, we don't have any road failures or anything like that. We have been having regular communication with the county they as

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:15:44

you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:15:45

are aware The Oxnard West Drain, which runs down the middle of Channel Islands is the county's drain and they own and operate that. Just recently we went out prior to when we were supposed to have a storm a few weeks back our police department went out and inspected with the drone underneath there's a portion of the channel that goes under Channel Islands Boulevard and wraps around over by KFC so They went and inspected that with the drone, didn't find anything.

A couple of years back though we did there was like several homeless camps inside there and it filled up a couple of truck fulls of couches name it they had literal houses under there. So we went out with our police department did that we were in communication with the county on that too. So if there was something that We found we could have reached out to their homeless liaison as well Which we coordinate with to make sure we get that debris removed so we don't have issues with that So we have that that we do all the way down Channel Islands Boulevard and then The bubbling springs corridor drains to the J Street channel, which is down over by Ormond Beach.

So they have been doing their regular maintenance on that. They've also just last week were in the process of replacing a pump, one of their pumps. There's five pumps at their flood control station so it's critical I'd like Our tree contractor out right now doing tree trimming, but we're also having them take care of all the palm trees that are down there because the palm fronds that fall off especially during high wind events during storms. They fall into the bottom of the creek and then those get washed up and they eventually make it to the flood control pump station. And so we're actively taking care of that beforehand and then we'll be doing weekly Clean outs of the channel to make sure we don't have that type of debris get stuck up on the rack and cause any problems with their pumps being able to pump as much water as they possibly can.

We have the sand that's going to be placed again. Hopefully, we don't get major storms like that come in with southerly direction and take our sand away too quickly. That is something that it's great to get the sand, but it's also with predictions and you get stuff coming out of the south that wipes out our beach very quickly. But that's going to be going on and we'll We'll be keeping an eye on that. And then sandbags, we've already started preparing sandbags and will continue to do that throughout the winter.

We will be able to have those available During all our normal business hours, we're still working on some things to maybe try and have some sandbag materials that are available even if the yard isn't open but somewhere where the public can get to it in one of our public places. They'll be able to have access to that. And we, as you can see a couple of pictures up there the creek clearing project is underway.

The top being what the creek started like and the bottom being what they took care of in just a couple of days so they're working their way upstream I met last week with the assistant director for the library who had some concerns regarding the library building the community center They're looking for some help, so I told them I'd get him some information. They had a couple of areas of concern that they wanted to get help with that they saw when we had the big event last time and then we're also working on some things over there too to address some of the problems that we had on the community center side. So moving forward with that and our communication lines with the county definitely will be Ongoing for the remainder of the winter We have all the contact information they have all of our contact information, so we'll Hopefully not have anything serious.

But there is always the chance I know a few meetings ago also we had one of our residents come in and had concerns about the December event a few years ago saying that the pumps weren't working. We reached out to that resident, explained what the situation was and the reality is those pumps were working but they ran over 12 hours straight and they overheated and shut down.

At that point, you have to let the equipment cool down before you can restart it. But the pump station itself has new controls. Pumps are just over 10 years old. The motors were all redone. We don't have any concerns that they're not in operational order. We know they work, but under certain conditions where you have to 12 hours of runtime there's nothing that we can do about the equipment protecting itself and shutting itself off so it doesn't burn the equipment out.

But we do have other pumps that are available I know there was a concern about electric power not being there We never lost electricity during that event and we do have a connection where we can take our backup generators and hook up to it to keep that station running if we do lose power. So, we have other pumps that we can also deploy and set out not just there but in locations where we might have other flooding events so all of that equipment has been gone through and it's ready to be utilized if we can or if we have

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:22:24

We did want to also highlight what residents can do to prepare. With the kind of storm that hit in December of 2023 where it's a abnormal rain event, making sure that residents are preparing clearing gutters, clearing drains, securing outdoor items, inspecting roofs and windowsills and placing sandbags where needed are key steps to sort of do what you can to harden your own house.

Also, for any emergency we always advise and recommend that people have an evacuation plan and a go bag with essentials for household members and pets. We've actually I think we just got an updated batch of brochures from County OES the Ready Ventura County flyers they give the planning guides and checklists so we're actually getting those out and then also I think Really the biggest thing we learned and heard from residents during the last storm was that a lot of our residents assumed that homeowners insurance included flood damage.

And that was really the biggest challenge, was we kept hearing consistently that people were getting rejected on on that and were really surprised so We've, one of the things we had done again just as part of our general awareness and hardening for the city is our public works team put together a flood information page which also had some flood insurance information and other information about like what flood zones were in and things like that. And so those are, that information's on our website as well now.

And then last thing is when a storm actually hits it's always important to know where to go for accurate information and to make sure that you're getting accurate information and you're not We've had during different events, people post things like this whole part of town got wiped out which was not true and then it causes panic. People are calling us saying why aren't you doing something? That's not happening but people will do things especially That was even sort of the pre-AI time period, so now with AI somebody can say give me a picture of this neighborhood underwater and really cause some problems. So this slide has some information on key Websites to know, to check. Obviously our newsletter, our social media. Our newsletter is more for preparedness.

Social media will be posting you know information during events but also we always give the reminder to sign up for VC alert to get and sort of bookmark emergency.ventoracounty.gov and readyventoracounty.org where information is also posted during emergency situations And then there we are our public works team is participating in doing some public outreach and so on Saturday, October 10th. Our public works team will participate at 2pm at the library for emergency preparedness presentation as well.

So we're still trying to get the word out which leads to sort of the action. We had recommended on this item is where we recommend that council authorized staff to prepare and distribute this flyer including in the monthly utility bills and just really, really trying to make sure that everyone even in addition to just our normal social media newsletter approaches that everyone I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions.

So these would go out in about around November 15th. So we're trying to get recommending approving that now so it goes out hopefully before you know what we anticipate to be the worst of the potential rainy weather and then we're happy to answer any questions.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:27:10

Any questions Councilmember Lopez?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:14

Yes. Mr. Cameron, thank you for the presentation. It's always good to read the staff report. So we're going to have a sandbag staging area in Public Works? Correct. So out of curiosity, I have this more to City Manager. Knowing that the community center is in a flood zone because it backs up to Bubbling Springs and we've had issues there in the past, is there an alternate site that we're thinking about?

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:27:46

Community center we hope to never use, all right? And community center is essentially the location that if there was a storm and it hit only Port Hueneme and nobody else that we would try to use the community center. To your point you know then hopefully if that were to happen it doesn't impact the community center but if there's a localized emergency in Port Hueneme you know it's possible any part of the city could be impacted But it's a long way to get to. The location that we used to always use and that we probably would use for most emergencies still is Oxnard College, and generally if there's an emergency and it impacts multiple agencies which most do even the December 23 storms Hueneme was the first to report it but it also impacted Oxnard and Ventura so In that case, for example we opened the shelter at Oxnard College because it was for all three agencies.

And so we like the odds would be in an emergency that that would still be the site used but for the first time we you know were essentially required to but we also agreed We have a designated Port Hueneme shelter, so if there is an event that only impacts us we could potentially utilize it. But if something happened in that area and was really impacted we would work with the county on trying to get Oxnard College back into use.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:29:17

And where Willowbrook is, where the pump actually failed or overheated How do we deploy like a backup pump? Like, do we have staff that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:29:34

can do that rapidly or? Yes. So when we have events, we'll go ahead and stage our standby vehicles with that equipment on there. And if we know there's a bigger event that they're predicting even in last year when there were predicted big events I'd like to

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:30:09

There is a lot of erosion on that back wall, so I don't know if that's what when maybe someone was talking about because it It just seems like it would benefit from a retaining wall from that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:30:20

Creek And that some of the information that in my meeting with the assistant director Gathering some information for them. So they can go ahead and take a look at He did mention that the library is separate from the general fund budget and so they don't have a lot of money in order to get things such as that. But there are some lower cost options that are available, so I'll be getting them that information.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:30:54

Okay. That's all I have, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:30:58

Thank you Director Camarillo for your report and I have a couple questions the storm channel I know that you and the police department do a great job of making sure that stays clear but I know that it also runs down from Oxnard are you in communication with Oxnard so they're also keeping it clear because if they have debris in theirs is going to come into our area whether we like it or not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:31:22

Not yet, but we have been meeting recently with different staff and myself with their director and their staff on a bunch of different items. So that's something I had planned on talking to them. We'll be meeting next week again and get coordination with that too. The drain does run through Oxnard. It's a large watershed of Oxnard that drains into that very same channel.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:31:52

And speaking of the watershed itself, the county during the 2023 storms it overflowed obviously because it wasn't able to keep up with the amount of water that was coming into it. Has the county done any type of review of it? Put some monitors on it or... Because it would have been nice to have awareness ahead of time that it was reaching capacity so that emergency could get out there before it actually flooded the residents. Is there anything like that being talked about?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:32:22

They do have gauges set up there, and they're able to view live what's going on. So they can monitor that. In that instance though, what hit in 2023, I personally drove out there during the worst of it, and all five pumps were running full speed. They eventually got another pump that was sitting out there that is sort of like an emergency pump, that they put together to try and assist with that too. But even when that was going, there was simply too much water coming in to handle what that station is designed for.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:33:04

And speaking of the emergency pumps, and God forbid that anything happens to the Hueneme Bay area or any residents along that area. But if something similar were to take place, do we have the ability? I know it's I can't remember if it's either the Navy or the port, but one of those agencies had pumps that we could have used had potentially had we been aware of it. Do we have resources to be able to access that is something potentially could happen like that again? We could get something out there to help remove the water

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:33:34

I wasn't aware that the port or the Navy had pumps that were Available for city use we can follow up with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:33:44

I Heard that in that when we were doing all of that stuff, that's what I heard in various discussions during that time

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:33:51

my recollection was I think when we we had asked for that debrief with all the different agencies involved after the December storm and It was that the Navy had some sort of backup channel or something. I don't know if it was a pump, but it was something like that and so we had talked to them at that time about them being able to use that. Yeah, something along those lines. So we can follow up but it was... We made contact with the base on it at that time and it's something we can circle back around on.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:34:30

You got a question?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:34:31

Just to address her question.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:34:34

Okay. Can we wait till the comment section? No. Because we haven't done public comments yet.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:34:39

Well, it has to do with her question. Well,

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:34:41

that's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:34:41

what I said if it's a question. Go ahead. Okay, I'll pose it as a question so are you... Are we still part of the Public Works Mutual Aid Plan for the county?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:34:54

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:34:55

Okay, so through that system we would be able to request additional equipment and pumps.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:35:01

Provided they had it available. Of course they've got a large area.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:05

Right but the request can go in if you need it and then it goes up through the county. If the county doesn't have it then it goes to the state and it goes on out. So that's always an option right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:35:17

Correct And there's some other things that we're also working on to see if we might be able to use other infrastructure to help if we get into a situation like we did in the last big event.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:35:34

I have no further questions, I'll save what else I have to say for comments.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:35:41

Thank you for the presentation. So are we going to have all the tule removed, the cattails removed from Bubbling Springs Park before November 1st or so? It looks like we are because you're doing a wonderful job in removing it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:35:56

Yeah, we have a contractor that came in to do that and they're making really good progress. So We anticipate that they'll be done probably within the next few weeks

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:36:05

Yeah, I'm not trying to be facetious but that stuff grows so fast They'll probably have to go back to where they started

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:36:11

it may it does grow back even where we just cleared out last week Yeah, I already start to see them poking through the water Oh

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:36:18

But it is a really good visual for our residents to see the city taking that proactive action. Palm fronds, kind of taken back a little bit like wow because I never thought about that but and I really appreciate the work that's been done at the beach right so the question is have we if we see a palm tree with just 10 years of pond fronds on it, do we approach the resident and try to forewarn them that hey this could cause us problems? I mean it's something that we may want to consider doing. And I was just wondering have you ever thought of that? Like if you see something that...

You've seen the palm trees where the pond fronds go all the way down then a big wind comes and just blows them all off. So anyways, I'm just concerned about residents who haven't done the upkeep on their palm trees

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:37:10

We haven't reached out to any of the private property owners. We were concerned with the city's palm trees. And those are the ones that are really the closest in correlation to the channel, so that's why we're doing all of our trees that are in that area because we do know a lot of them are in that area. So we're focusing on that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:41

Okay, and then we have the Army Corps engineers allegedly coming out soon I don't know if we have a date where they're gonna start mobilizing Having lived through the 96 event and my understanding was it was this huge sandbar that caused the pier to collapse so can we or have we Discussed with the Army Corps of Engineers whether they intend to fill up that low spot with sand so as to provide more protection from these potential Kelvin waves or high surf events. It seems to me that's our only defense down there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:38:21

Yeah, we have a meeting I believe next week the kickoff kind of to lay what in terms of what the schedule will be and all that so that's something we can ask them but if I remember correctly part of that They do the measurement of the sand, but we've also done it independently and where we have to call somebody out and they literally dive the pier to see where the sand line is on those pilings to let us know whether or not they see anything if there's something that is a concern. And that I think, James maybe you remember, I think Gabby had that done a year ago?

And they…

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:39:10

Within the last 12 months.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:39:11

Yeah, along with an inspection of the pilings to see if there was any pilings that had any structural

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:39:18

issues. I don't know who the expert is but I would imagine ACOE are the experts. They go up and down the coast. So I just want to inquire as to can we solicit their best recommendations for how to proceed considering there may be a big event?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:39:38

Yeah. Oh, definitely we can ask when we have the kickoff meeting here in the coming weeks so we can get more information on that.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:39:49

Great. Do you have any more questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:39:51

I would just, I like the flyer. I think it's really important but I would just like to emphasize the things that are most important and to me so can we consider advising residents to really work on their drains from back to front? I think that's important. It's here on here but it's not very bold my input.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:40:15

Okay, great. Thank you. I think we've gotten to the comments. So do we have any public comments? No, no, no. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you did before go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:40:24

Now I wasn't that was just related to what Okay, go ahead. Yeah. So it seems in 2023 there was some damage assessment done. I'm not sure how it occurred. But I imagine it comes from fire from Public Works and PD And I think this is a question for the city manager. How does our damage assessment work? Because I know there were some homes that slipped through the cracks.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:40:54

Not so much in Port Hueneme but in Oxnard and Ventura, yes. We met with the Ventura County EOC, Patrick Maynard at about four that morning I want to say. Four or five a.m. that morning and we had called in we have a contract with our building officials in that department are that company Charles Abbott & Associates is who the city contracts with and so we were able to call Charles Abbott and ask them to send basically every building person from the county And they came out and we met with Patrick, and we got all the tablets from the county. And we literally sent all our building people and all the building people from the county out and documented. If everybody recalls in Port Hueneme, we documented all of the damage within 24 hours.

Thought there wasn't any damage but it turned out there was, which was part of why we had the challenge of having to operate a Port Hueneme shelter initially and then it turned into a bigger event. But that's how it was done is we essentially use our building team with the county's operation emergency services to go out and document.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:12

So that information then gets centralized where does it go?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:42:16

There's a county online system every all information from the like the December 2023 storm was through the counties. They give us tablets that literally go to a database that they operate

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:28

and then they turn around and give us the list for our city

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:42:33

We have access to it. They don't give it to us, but we have access to go in and look at it Yeah, they don't the county actually specifically last time asked not to do anything in paper that turned into an issue But they wanted only to go through that database

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:48

I'm just wondering if from an EOC standpoint how you document where the damage is in our city so that everybody has a common operating picture And I know that's probably hours into the event that you have that kind of information, but what about the windshield surveys? Like you go out initially and say okay we've got Hueneme Bay homes from this address to this address. You've got Evergreen impacted. Is that a coordinated effort by city forces?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:43:20

Yeah in that process I just described that windshield survey is part of that I think I'm remembering what you are referring to is that then we heard from, I think there was like four houses in one part of the city that didn't get spotted in a windshield survey. They came forward and said that That they had been missed. So the other thing we do is we do tell people like we're doing a windshield survey But you need to if if you have damage call us so so you try to catch everybody that way but I think we had caught something like 98% on day one and Other agencies were more the opposite like the two or two to five percent on day one through three, so So, generally it was pretty successful but in a major emergency it's hard to catch everybody. But you if you try to catch it and then you ask them to call if not you usually get there so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:44:20

So if people call in does that information then gets collected by dispatch?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:44:28

It could, there's different situations for different scenarios. I think during the December 23 storms we created a separate phone number at like 6am that day and then we had that going straight to the EOC.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:44:42

And then as far as documentation of our damages Does finance assign a code or a number to, and it goes out to the departments like all work associated with this response should be recorded under this particular number? Yes. We do that? Mm-hmm. All right well that's all the questions I have for now thank you.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:45:06

Thank you madam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:45:09

You have a question go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:45:12

I heard that the advisement is that the city should identify possible shelters within the city. Is that a hard rule? Because Hueneme High School is just across the border and it seems to me If we can approach them that might be the better Location,

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:45:33

it's a hard rule. It's a hard rule to have a site designated within your city It doesn't mean and that's kind of what I said about Oxnard College It doesn't mean that if an emergency happens and the community center is flooded We wouldn't tell people to keep going there. We'd have to then essentially connect back with our partners County and and let's start and say okay this sites out So where would we go?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:45:54

But that's why I bring this up because it seems like a really logical

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:45:59

The

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:45:59

Red

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:45:59

Cross does that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:00

They

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:46:01

do a whole inventory of shelters throughout the county and they don't tell people where the shelters are going to be ahead of time because they don't know They might be damaged, they might be flooded. So you have to wait till we're into the incident before

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:15

we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:46:15

can really identify what shelters people should go to. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:19

think Council Member Lopez made up a really good point. It's right there on the creek so...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:46:25

Well you'd be surprised barely anybody used that shelter like nobody even wanted to... We tried taking people down there and nobody even wanted to go to their shelter. It ended up shutting down within less than 24 hours Okay,

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:46:39

can we let's get back on no more questions. No more questions Madam clerk do we have any public comments? No public

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:46:45

comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:46:45

Okay, no public comments So are there any comments any additional comments? Yes councilmember Lopez

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:46:52

Yeah, just I'm gonna be honest. The FEMA rules, the thresholds on that are so high we're on our own and it's imperative that we take this serious and do as much as we can Public Works is doing a great job, so commend you Mr. Camarillo. But the reality is we're going to have to with our county partners figure this out on our own. So we'll stand ready to do whatever we can but thank you for the brief.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:47:30

And just on the FEMA thresholds note, that was another thing that didn't make the list of things relevant to preparing for this El Nino. But we did work with the county to try to advocate for trying to change those thresholds and it actually It actually got some discussion, but ultimately basically FEMA said we just don't have the resources. It was my recollection that they just don't have the resources to take responsibility for what they're calling now smaller scale emergencies. So something I think we'll keep trying to advocate on, but that challenge still exists of I don't remember the numbers offhand, but it's something like if it impacts less than 800 households or something then there is no FEMA assistance. We keep reminding them that smaller cities are never going to hit that threshold so we'll never get help.

It's something we're still working on.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:48:31

So to comment off that, I remember Congresswoman Brownlee said she was going to try to work on lowering that threshold. Just a little note to remember, we have a CERT team in Hueneme. Right after that we got a bunch of people together and made sure that we could get CERT trained so there's a lot of volunteers ready to help out when crap hits the fan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:49:04

I think it'd be a good idea to train the CERT team on how to work in the EOC so your police officers and sworn officers can be out in the field. You guys fill the positions in the EOC would be great. The other comment I wanted to make was thank you so much for the presentation, Mr. Camarillo. You guys have done quite a bit as you usually do in preparing us for this storm but the message I think for the community is that We can do our part. We can get our EOC in readiness condition, we can update our plans, we can clean out our flood channels and pre-stage equipment, do all those things we're supposed to do but we are only as prepared as our community is prepared. Our residents really need to take this seriously. We need to help them understand that they need to do their part to prepare their homes and families.

So that's why we're doing this event on Saturday and I hope that we can do some more of those.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:50:03

Yeah, and on that note Speaking for myself it's like I'm working on my drains right now because yeah They drain at it because there's roots in there and stuff they drain very slowly and it would be a dirty shame if Everything is working great out in the street, but then my drains are clogged and flooding my house so you know it really is important for us through this flyer and through whatever means to emphasize to our residents, you know your drains from your backyard or your front yard are the most important thing to pay attention to and test them out. You know because we haven't had rain for a while and so anyways I really appreciate the flyer and I want to hopefully suggest that we strongly encourage residents to address their front to forward draining

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:50:54

I recall one of the individuals in Hueneme Bay filed a claim for flood damage. He got $17,000 to help with that's not a lot but it's more than what he had at the time so I'd recommend anybody who has renters who is a renter to get renter's insurance. It's cheap it's really cheap.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:51:16

Have we considered doing a tabletop exercise, maybe a brief one not a full on but maybe just a tabletop exercise to assemble everybody kind of learning from our past experience in 23?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:51:32

Yeah. We do those and we have one scheduled this month.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:51:38

No other comments? Just say thank you very much for your presentation both to you and to City Manager. It's always important, you know information is power and so hopefully we can get this out to everyone just to assist them in being more I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:52:20

Have we used, or are we considering using like a water bill stuffer where we put like a little slip in there? Or is this gonna go with the water bill, or how's it gonna go?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:52:30

So it's gonna be this double-sided folded full sheet of paper. But we wanted to make sure to have both English and Spanish so what's on your screen is what we're planning to send out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:52:41

In the water

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:52:42

bill? No, in the utility bill.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:52:43

Okay. And everybody's good with that? Okay, so this is a receiving file. So if everybody's in consensus that we can go ahead and do that, we don't really have to take a vote. Thank you so much for your presentation and

we'll move on to the next item if there's nothing else. All right, we're gonna

move to item number seven consideration of League of California cities recommendation to oppose proposition 43 staff please present the report.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:53:17

Thank you. Yes and I I actually met with the League of Cities legislative team recently and they essentially asked for all cities to help get the word out on this. So that's why normally we don't do these items as business items, but this one really essentially what I was told is that there's not Much of a budget for statewide to get the word out on this and help voters understand it so they were asking us to really just do our part in letting people know what this is.

So, this is a request for the council to consider opposing adopting resolution opposing Proposition 43 And I think everybody knows nobody likes taxes, so whenever there's a proposition to oppose cities' abilities to raise taxes it's an uphill battle. But this one is interesting and unique in that really it's not an effort to stop us from raising taxes, it's an effort to stop voters from being able to ask for taxes for specific purposes.

You may have seen examples of this, actually even maybe our own tax measure would be an example of this where if the voters come forward and say we would like as your community, we would like the city to consider a tax. Actually what we just talked about, to create funding that goes towards emergency preparedness or updating the storm drain system My prior city, because we were the highest wildfire risk it was a tax to fund wildfire mitigation and you know efforts and things like that.

But currently voters can do that and when they do that and they go through the process the measure only has to get 51% of the vote, more than a majority of the vote. 50.1. Yeah, 50 percent plus one and so but what's being proposed is essentially saying no if even if the voters try to do that now it has to pass by more than a two-thirds vote Which is really a number that almost no measure really meets. So it's really just trying to stop that, but again it's funny because it's like I don't blame residents when I'm talking to them and they say I don't want you to be able to raise taxes but this is telling our residents if you think something's important you can't tax it you know and so So that's really the issue, and I think it will have a lot of impacts.

Things like our tax measure probably wouldn't pass today. It could have 65% of the vote and it wouldn't pass because we'd need to have more than two-thirds of the vote. And so we aren't considering any tax measures at this time. We aren't planning any or proposing any but if something comes up in the voters want to propose something, we want them to have the right to do that.

So the League of Cities asked cities to formally adopt a resolution to oppose it. It's important enough that they were saying, please don't just send us the letter that we normally send and then we wanted to help get the word out on it as well. And then the last note I'll say is I think even the person who wrote the proposition is opposing this now and said and Their quote was I authored this not because I wanted it to become law But because it was the only way to get rid of a more dangerous initiative so So it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of support for it but we just want people to know because When you open your ballot book and you just see limit taxes, that sounds good but it's the devil is in the details on this one. So with that we recommend that council formally adopt the resolution and then we would send letters to the League of Cities and that resolution to the League of Cities.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:57:29

Does Council have any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:57:32

How can we best get this information out to our residents? I mean, aside from talking to them individually but that's 10,000 voters. Social media postings, just to educate them on what this

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:57:47

means. Is there an issue with social media? Normally my inclination is not to use our city resources on those but...

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:57:54

There are restrictions on using city resources to advocate for a position in the ballot. There are exceptions for putting out factual information so it's it is a very balanced nuanced kind of thread There are firms that their entire business practice is to help navigate those threads. So, you know...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:58:16

What about explaining what it means?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:58:19

We could try to prepare some things just straight factual on it. The other thing is as we get this material to the League of Cities I think League of Cities is planning to use it in their messaging too because they are able to advocate a little more than we are so

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:58:36

But exercising your voices from the dais and passing a resolution is certainly something you can

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:58:40

do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:58:42

Mr. City Manager, did you say that League doesn't have a pact formed or what about funding? You said something about

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction1:58:50

funding. Yeah so they what they said was that Really with everything else going on all the other measures and then this one is fairly It's not getting all the attention so that they they aren't planning to put a lot of resources behind it and it's apparently neither are the you know, the opposition who are the people who proposed it and But their concern is more that if people just don't understand what it is, then they'll just kind of instinctively vote for it without understanding what it's actually doing.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:59:32

Do we have any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:59:34

No public comments.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role1:59:37

No, no other questions? Okay. If there are no other comments we have before us the recommendation to consider the League of California Cities' recommendation to oppose Proposition 43. If the council agrees adopt a resolution entitled Resolution of the City Council of the city of Port Hueneme opposing Proposition 43 limits voters ability to raise revenues for local government services on November 3rd.

May I have a motion and a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:00:08

So moved.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:00:08

Second. Okay, any further discussion? If not Madam Clerk please take roll.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:00:15

All in favor?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:00:16

Aye.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:00:17

All opposed? Hearing none motion passes unanimously

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:00:21

Great thank you.

We'll move on to item number eight, review of Hueneme Hero Award criteria and process. Staff please present the report.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:00:29

Yes thank you and our Deputy City Manager Charles Peretz has been working with the Citizens Advisory Commission A number of items, but one is doing the annual Hueneme Hero Award process. And so Mr. Peretz will walk us through this item.

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CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:00:54

Thank you City Manager and good evening Council, members of the public, city staff. So the council may recall that the Heroes History and Heritage Policy was originally developed in 2020 established procedures to consider requests for monuments memorials into honor extraordinary contributions to the community. The latter is a process that was established through the Hueneme Hero Award which is found in section 5 of the policy During this year's review for the 2026 Hueneme Hero Award, Council expressed an interest in reviewing potential amendments to the Heroes Award section of the policy and directed staff to come back with a report to allow for that discussion. As noted in the staff report, specific comments when council had this discussion a few months ago included the possible exclusion of members of the City Council and the CAC from award consideration and considering providing clear direction to the CAC regarding the threshold by which a nominee must meet in order to be qualified for the award.

So once again, the item was placed on the agenda at council's direction to facilitate a discussion. And with that we'll turn it over to council members available to answer questions about the policy but look forward to your discussion and direction regarding any amendments.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:02:32

Any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:02:35

Has staff had the opportunity to review the criteria or that section of the policy and make any recommendations or suggestions?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:02:46

I'll jump in and note. to avoid Charles having to get involved in politics, that whether or not to allow the council to receive the award or CAC to receive the award is really a policy choice. So we haven't weighed in on it. It's a decision for the council.

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:03:08

The only thing I'll add is if the Council decides to go in the direction of amending the policy and or providing direction to the CAC, staff is prepared to help with articulation of those ideas. But as a City Manager indicated we're really awaiting the direction if the Council wishes to make a policy decision to amend the policy.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:03:32

Do we have any public comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:03:38

No public comments. Mayor?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:03:45

Yeah, I'll make a comment. I think we...I know it's what seven years now Heroes Policy has been in play At 2020 and I know that it's kind of a challenge in a small city to Identify year after year after year. And so So, I think I think we should alter alter it somewhat but recognize you know there is I don't want to say apathy but I Just don't know like Where we go from here do we?

We could change the policy and say no city council members or organizations thereof. You can see how this begins to spread out a little more because all of us are active in different groups that are important to the community, so it's a tough thing. A little more difficult than it seems.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:04:52

Yeah, so I think we had some conversation last time around with the beach cleanup effort and so I read or the discussion I recall is not about a person being part of an organization but that person, that council member is being recognized.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:05:16

Well, that was the issue with the last one. It

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:18

was changed. That was part of the issue but the other part of the issue was what I was observing is that members of the CAC were...I mean we've had a history of nominating ourselves for these awards and to me I think it's an issue of community engagement And maybe with better community engagement and outreach, we can get more people to be nominated. What I've observed in the CAC meetings is if discussions around applicants and if they don't know the applicant then that applicant gets kind of dismissed But that's the whole purpose, is to bring in people who are new. And who we might not know but there's a school district for instance who wanted to nominate a teacher. We got multiple nomination forms on this one teacher. She finally did get recognized but the first year she just well we don't know her and so it was dismissed.

So it seems like there's something that we could do With this policy where we can encourage a better community engagement process or approach so that we can draw out.

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ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:06:46

So the reason I made this statement or the statement that I just did, and so if Councilmember Lopez, if you don't mind, I'm just going to use the ad hoc committee as an example. The Ad Hoc Committee did great work this year. They started a new process. We got up our Banners up. So would we not recognize them because Council Member Lopez is a representative to the ad hoc committee? So that's kind of where I'm coming from with that.

And so, I think as far as what Mayor Pro Tem recently said about, well just said about the CAC not knowing someone If my mind serves me correctly, the write-ups from last year were so vague. There was really no information, no real information that really spoke about true accomplishments at the level that we would say this person is a hero. So, that's kind of what I remember about last year. And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:07:56

I'm talking

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:07:56

to you about previous years. Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:07:58

Yeah and I just want to comment I did not lobby or ask to be a part of that, and I went to great lengths to discourage it. And in the end we recognized the volunteers. So what are our options?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:08:25

So let me just say something. Can I just ask this question really quick? Because you said you want to make some changes, but you never spoke about changes. What change would you like to make? Because that's what this discussion is really about. What do we want to do? Do we want to make adjustments? You need to think?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:08:48

No, I don't need to think. I have a change in mind and I don't think it will go over very well but I'll just leave it at that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:09:01

So this year was a little odd. I did see the CAC meeting as well and I don't know if it's a popularity contest but I just think that an organization can be recognized for doing good work, but not sourcing or not giving the highlight to let's say if it was ad hoc. I would not want to stand in their accomplishments maybe off to the side, but I would be okay with that.

And the previous year Lions Club, doing great work in Hueneme. So you recognize the work that's being done and so I don't have any issues with organizations being nominated and winning but it shouldn't be a popularity contest. It should be given to good work that's being done Looking at this, I don't think there's really anything to change. I think the right organization got recognized so that's my two cents. Thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:10:14

So I don't think there's anything wrong with a council member getting recognized, especially if they are going out of their normal and doing good work in the community. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don' think there is anything wrong with an organization being recognized if a council member happens to be part of it because we're a small community. We have very limited people who we can recognize until we go out there and try to find individuals who are unknown We have what we have, and we have the submissions that we get.

So I don't think we should necessarily change it to exclude a council member necessarily or a group a council member is a part of, but we do need to make a consorted effort to find individuals who are really doing heroic things. And I think we need to understand what the word hero means, and we need to make a better effort as to finding someone who fits that criteria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:11:08

To be clear we're not nominating a hero tonight, right? Because I have one in mind. If we sat here as a council and brainstormed on

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:15

people who we thought or organizations we thought We're going to have a meeting with the mayor and the city council about that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:11:45

Are you are you advocating for a For the council to know no, I think so. I think that's a good idea

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:54

Even if it was say it was the mayor and the mayor pro tem form a subcommittee and then come back to the council and on their recommendations on who should receive the hero warrant. Where is the role of the CAC in this? Or maybe you have a member of the council and a member of the CAC form an ad hoc committee or a finders, you know, a hero finder committee of some sort, and they go back to their respective boards. I'm not sure how that would

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:12:27

work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:30

But it's, I think if we had two people at least working Outreach in getting and solicitating applications, making a concerted effort. with staff, helping to accomplish that. Maybe that would be a

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:12:47

solution. Let me just ask this real quick. With that comment do you think that it has to be even formal? I mean we could always if we know of an organization that we think that it meets the criteria any of us can always...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:06

That's the

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:13:07

way it is now. Yeah but I don't think we do that though

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:13:11

But but

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:13:13

I don't yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:13:14

Well, I would say the person have a person in mind right now that I'm pretty sure if I divulge to everyone up here you go Oh, yeah. I mean so is it? Is it on me to go out and find some hate nominate this person see that that just feels funny Whereas if the council was nominating people You know what? I mean? Yeah Because I do, I mean I feel strongly sitting here right now. I'm not going to say anything but I feel strong that you know what this person really does deserve it but now I have to go out and advocate on that person's behalf to somebody and let's just be honest when a City Council person comes forward and says hey Joe neighbor could you do this?

That's a little awkward

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:13:57

If we were to discuss and nominate as a group someone is that a Brown Act violation Only

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:14:04

if you do it outside of the notice meeting if you agendize it and you make it like We're doing right now You can certainly do that. But yeah doing it outside of a notice meeting would be about

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:14:15

Yeah, so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:14:20

How far in advance are we actually asking for applications? Is it 90 days?

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:14:28

I believe our practice is that we provide 45 days from announcement to deadline.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:14:33

And you know, I think it would be good to use our mailers on the utility bill to just bring them into our website saying hey If you know of an individual deserving of a Heroes Award, please nominate and come to the website. That would be an inexpensive way to get it out there. And then our social media machine pushing this on all levels of social media. And then in the newsletter. But the other thing too is why couldn't I nominate someone? Now, the only question that I'm going to say is I don't want to poison the well when if I nominate one And as someone that may not, because I did it, I'm going to get an automatic no.

That's kind of what would probably hesitate me, but at the same time if someone brought a nomination I'm looking at the merits of the person and I'm going to vote accordingly.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:15:30

Well what about submitting it like we do our agenda request? We have to submit a brief on that person and it goes out to council to review all the criteria that we think fits the hero.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:15:42

I'm for whatever, however we can get the most participation. My question is though that now where does the CAC play now that we're making the decisions and our policy says something else?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:59

I think that's one of the key roles of the CAC and we should probably leave that in place but I'm thinking, I'm wondering if we should start earlier in soliciting nominations It's not 45 days from when the action it's a 45 day nomination period. So the announcements made there's 45 days nominations are received staff reviews

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:16:19

does it Quick social media check to make sure there's no funny business. Prepares a report, then agendas it for CAC, CAC action, then we agenda it for

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:39

City Council.

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:16:42

It's in the policy I believe it is well used to be May and we adjusted it because we've changed the Hueneme Beach Festival and that's kind of the end of the process so I want to say the deadline to receive applications is March

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:16:56

So we start reminders at the beginning of the year like put a little blurb out on all of our different things. Hero nominations coming up. Yeah but the date of the deadline and just start reminding the public that it's coming

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:17:08

about a 90 day consideration for nomination period

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:17:14

You still have to keep communicating because 90 days is a long time for someone to remember.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:19

Tell me about it. I know we do have it on our website, right? Our city's website. Yeah, we

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:17:25

did the website at the newsletter. We didn't do the utility bills.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:33

Just making that more concerted effort. Like every

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:17:36

month have a little corner which says hero just yeah reminder

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:17:42

I mean, we just had one in front of us tonight. Honestly You weren't out front

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CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:18:00

I can confirm after looking at the policy that currently the policy has a deadline for nominations of March 15th So if we wanted to make it a longer period we could make it as part of our New Year Actions to start promoting this and I think some of the ideas we heard tonight are Additional ways and good ways to get the word out to the community. I'll just note if we're focused on last year We did only have three nominations, which was Very limited but if I recall correctly, I think the prior year we did have 13 nominations so And multiple awards, right? And we have had Thank you very much.

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:19:02

Hearing there's like a thousand ways to address it right but hearing what council said too. I was trying to think of if this would work off the top of my head and Charles might be the one that can tell me but The other thought would be putting maybe like a council Like preliminary where when we get applications before they go to CAC have it come to Council not for the purpose of the council evaluating, but then council can say you know, if there's anybody else that they want to nominate. You know?

So for example let's say you get three and you go wow the council could say something like well we thought this person was going to be nominated for all the good work they did but nobody nominated them and then the council could actually decide whether or not like to add nominees I guess the only negative with that is you know you could argue the CAC would then just think if you nominate one person that's who they have to pick But you know this maybe this is a good first step and we can always if maybe We try it. We start with this approach And if we don't get nominees then we could always come back to council and talk about how we want to get more nominees

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:20:11

You let us know where we are in receiving applicant applications like well, we've only got its It's February, we've got two applications so get out there. I

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:20:26

think that makes sense and in addition to updating Council on the quantity of nominations it's also a reminder to the public each and every time during that nomination period that this is ongoing and there's an opportunity for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:20:37

individuals. So

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:20:40

we'll start with that enhanced outreach approach. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:20:43

have a question So in our policy, is it going to say council members cannot recommend?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:20:53

No.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:20:53

No, it's not gonna say that,

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:20:54

okay. I think what I heard is that everybody's okay with council members recommending, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:00

But the recommendations you should nominate through the CAC.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:21:04

Through the CAC, yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:05

that's what

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:21:05

I'm hearing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:06

Send an application. Right, send an application to the CAC so we should encourage participation but not necessarily try to direct it

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:21:14

Although I think what I heard is everybody's okay with the idea of council members saying, hey you should nominate this person.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:24

Are we okay

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:21:24

with that? I think the people who are on the CAC now, I don't think they're going to be worried too much about whether they vote for our person

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:33

or not. Okay one final question. If I want to nominate somebody do we look kindly on that or do we frown? Any council member for that matter You know what I'm saying?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:21:46

Because again.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:21:47

My thought is this, if I'm going to submit and go to the CAC meeting, I should be able to present right?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:21:56

CAC meetings are publicly noticed so council members can attend and make a comment. Council members cannot deliberate because it's not a noticed council meeting. So you could speak to the CAC.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:10

Okay, so what if... This is where we get fun. Fun time Charles. What if three council members show up each offering a different suggestion?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:22:20

That's what I was just saying. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:22:21

each...

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:22:25

I thought you were talking about just submitting a nomination like a one-way communication. So yes, if the three of you are showing... Is the CAC meeting noticed as a Brown Act? Okay, so that's okay then. You're allowed to attend noticed meetings of another legislative body Under the Brown Act is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:43

CAC is not ad

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:22:45

hoc. It's a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:46

it's

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:22:46

a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:46

general

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:22:47

Brown

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:47

Act

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:22:49

That's right, yeah Okay It's just like if the three of you wanted to show up at a County Council meeting or a Port of Hueneme meeting You wouldn't need to notice that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:59

Long as we're not coordinated

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:23:02

I don't want to ask the

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:23:03

question.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:23:06

So just to ask, so one council member gets up and says at the notice meeting CAC meeting I want to nominate this person and they're there as a resident and then I get up and say oh I support that person as a resident And then there's a third person. Is that allowed, or because you're there as a

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:23:31

resident? It's a notice meeting and it's an agendized item. I think you're

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:23:33

fine. Okay, just wanted to say that. Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't do that but... I'd be too scared to do that but okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:23:41

Okay so is if the county is organizing a Oppose 43 effort Three of us could go and support that right

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:23:54

at a noticed meeting

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:23:55

of the board of supervisors in a public comment, right? Yes long as we're not just Okay

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:24:01

an agendized item at a notice meeting of another Brown Act body. Yes, you're fine

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:24:04

So is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:24:06

everything

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:24:08

clear

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:24:12

I'll

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:24:17

just wrap up. The item before you was to discuss and potentially provide direction of staff regarding amendments to the policy. I have not heard any motion or any direction to make amendments to the policy. We discussed outreach efforts and how to enhance and solicit additional nominations, and staff will go forward with that.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:24:34

Great, thank you.

CommentPublic Works Director FredProposed · by introduction2:24:36

I guess

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:24:37

on that point though there is one question that I'm not sure I have the answer to so are we making a rule that council members can't be nominated specifically as individuals?

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:24:49

No. Okay. So that's not a change.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:24:53

Yeah, so no

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:24:53

amendments

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:24:54

to the policy

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:24:55

then. Okay, so does there need to be a motion city? Okay, so we're good. All right, and we had no public comments. So let's see. OK so we're at the there is no request for a future agenda item city manager do you have any comments?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:25:16

Yeah just a couple. We wanted to highlight a couple recent events then preview the next council meetings October. We have a few big events that we want to make sure that people are aware of the touch a truck is on Saturday October 10th from 11am to 3pm and that event It seems to get more popular each year so we want to get the word out on that. And then another one too is last year I couldn't find parking to get into it, the Spooktacular at Miranda Park. So make your plans to get there early and park yeah in the well I don't want to say in the neighborhood parks you know along Bubbling Springs or yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:26:00

One comment about that, I think one year the council should have a booth and give out candy.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:26:06

Yeah and the other thing too, I haven't gotten to check in with with the team yet but i know that there is a team that was working on the car show idea and the trunk or treat as part of that too so um I thought about that right before this meeting so that might be another opportunity um and so we'll try to get an update on that for the next council meeting but But I mean we could have a booth for the council to hand out candy, probably not on an election year. I think we have some challenges with some different conflict of interest type laws but maybe next year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:26:41

I mean the council members are gonna be there at the event. So what's the difference they're gonna be there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:26:46

not buying? Actually,

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:26:57

you guys heard this at League of Cities right but I think there's like a rule about the city spending more than $50 on out Yeah printed material that you know outreach related or during an election period Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:27:13

so with regard to spooktacular I have a question. So is daylight saving times done or because remember It was beautiful with the lights and it started to get dark. So are we what I mean does anyone know? I'm asking Google, I do not know. Google it because it was such a nice touch when they started to get dark in the lighting and it was beautiful.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:27:41

November 1st is when the next time time goes back one hour

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CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:27:55

Sorry, can't move this till after Halloween. Well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:27:58

I'm just saying why put up lights then?

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:28:05

Okay so touch a truck and spooktacular coming soon we also talked about this already today but The Public Works Department wanted to highlight the work that's being done on Bubbling Spreaks Creek clearing. And yes, it's a challenge every year to try to keep those creeks clear so that work is occurring now and we do get on occasion the question from somebody who says like well why don't you just keep doing it all year to keep it down and just to answer that question as we are limited to certain times of year that were able to do it. So we do it when we're allowed to.

And then another project coming up is the Patterson Road resurfacing project starting October 12th through 26 from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.. There's going to be some alternate access available via Wheelhouse Avenue and Jetty Street The restriping Paving is gonna occur resurfacing and then stripe restriping will occur as well so We wanted to get the word out about that road closure on the 12th through 26th, and we just posted this online as well So it's on Instagram and Facebook too And then for October 19th agenda, we have presentations for Down Syndrome Awareness Month and the Cybersecurity Awareness Month proclamations. And then for business items, we have the high-level overview of department budgets, I believe that the Veterans Committee and Banner details that were discussed are gonna return at that meeting as well.

I think we're trying to get that back before Veteran's Day And then the e-bike overview and just all the different rules and laws that currently apply in what cities are doing. It seems like more and more by the day, I'm sure also at League of Cities too, I think I saw some e-bike related I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions. It does seem to be becoming a more and more important topic by the day. So we'll bring that overview to sort of just talk about what the rules are, and some current or pending state laws too.

So that is all I have.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:30:38

On the budget overview, isn't that signaling the kickoff of the next budget cycle? And will we have an opportunity to really Maybe take a deeper dive into the budget and ask questions about expenditures and revenues.

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:30:58

So I would call this sort of like step one, like pre-kickoff. The reason we're bringing this just to try to set the stage was this June was the second year of the two year budget and so when we brought the budget we really didn't I think the council as a whole had commented that because of that it would be helpful to have a high-level overview of the department budgets.

You know this year to start thinking about the budget process, which I think I would say is really going to kick off more in like, like though meat of it is going to be a like March and April. But we wanted to bring this which is sort of the high level you know this is the breakdown of this is how many dollars are spent in each of these areas. to A, we can get some general direction about areas to look at. But B also if there is a desire to get into more detail like council could sort of identify that and then we can make sure we plan for that so it's sort of the you know step one this is what the budget currently looks like and what are areas do I want to look at and talk about?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:32:22

I think that's a really healthy step, but I think the more time that we give ourselves to educate and be more knowledgeable is very wise. So I appreciate that.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:32:33

Any other questions for the city manager? Do you have – so we'll move on to the council member reports. We'll start with Council Member Lopez.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:32:41

Yeah, this last two weeks I did attend the CSUCI presidential dinner. I actually was a guest of VCCD as a plus one and lo and behold one of the students that had a student highlight was a former employee of mine who went on to become a megatronics engineer. And to my surprise, she was the guest speaker and it was good to see that. I wasn't surprised because she's stellar, very smart individual. So to see that was incredible.

I also did attend the Cal Cities as a voting delegate. I did cast our vote for Resolution 1. We voted A, yay! Yeah it actually was a landslide 235-1 Yeah, so... A lot of good topics.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:33:51

What did we vote for?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:33:52

We voted for... It was almost a equity and

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:34:01

local

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:34:01

controls and it was just an easy vote. And then we already had voted amongst ourselves here, and I just cast the vote. There was a lot of good things that was at the Cal Cities event. There were so many different topics that you wanted to go to three at the same time. But overwhelming good information. I did bring back a couple things, some solar lighting. Very good technologies out there That could probably eliminate our median lighting district.

Also brought back road repair equipment that we could probably use and save half the money when we do our road repairs, so I sent that information on. I also did attend the Port Hueneme Banana Festival. What I heard was record-breaking attendance, but I actually went to the car show. I actually had my car there and it was a great time. That was my first car show and they put on a great show so it was free for everybody.

It was a good time just mixing up with a lot of classic cars It was a huge lines to get around that banana festival, but props to the port. Good job, good time and everybody that came who were out of towners loved our city. That was common theme. I also did attend a golf tournament for the Peruvian Orphanage fundraiser. That was a whole lot of fun and that was it. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:35:56

I attended my meetings and I did attend the banana festival. We were at our booth for the Lions Club when we gave away over 800 vegetables. I think ours was probably the second most popular next to the beer and alcohol booth. We had watermelon, melon, tomatoes, cucumber, squash.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:36:19

Watermelon's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:36:19

a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:36:19

vegetable?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:36:21

Well, okay fruit. So plants, food plants. I think that's what it was. Yeah tomato, melon, watermelon, cucumber, squash and that's it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:36:35

Yeah, the car show was amazing. And I have two beater cars clearly because I break things but to see the talent that Jess has and all these people have in restoring these cars it's It's a labor of love, clearly. And I get a kick out of it like you ask one question man and it just leads down this really cool path of where it started the problems and how it finished and then of course you're looking at the finished product and like I mean every car was just amazing so...and I enjoyed having some bananas that was really nice I went to Cal Cities and I enjoyed seeing Jess there.

Laura was there as well, right? Yeah, you were there. So we stayed away from each other. No Brown Act issues. I know, I'm kidding but it really is a productive conference and there's so much to learn and interact with other council persons. It's really good. Are you going to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:37:45

do any debriefs on any of the things

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:37:49

I have my notebook right here. There's a lot Anyways, I will Go through my calendar and talk about the issues. Yeah yeah me too and then tomorrow I'm going to the California Joint Insurance Authority's Underwater risk review and it's in Monterey So I'll be heading out there tomorrow for that. And that's another really if you haven't ever gone to the CJ PIAs conference on risk management, it's another great venue and again It's and I think what we learn is you hear what other cities are doing?

And then we can say to our city mayor walk. We're not doing this and We'll come back and create more work for James and his staff. But that's our job, right? Good policy. So there's a lot of great ideas out there It's great to hear what other people are doing. And then we had our VC Animal Services meeting and really pushing the mobile spay and neuter program, and we believe that it can lead to for the first time in many years a shelter getting below capacity And it really is a critical time now because the shelter has been at capacity for a very long time.

We see litters here, litters there. People waiting and hanging out in front of the grocery store to give away animals and it's just heartbreaking when there's too many animals and then some of them do things that are hard to manage. And so this spaded neuter mobile clinic is really I think they've done They've done over 400, guys. So that is huge, right? So we're actually talking like let's get it to 1,000 and so anyways I think we're making good progress there and hopefully one day soon we'll be able to get under capacity

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:12

They have a shock clinic coming in Hueneme in December. December

CommentHeroes AwardProposed · by introduction2:40:16

12th I believe,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:17

yeah. Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:40:19

I just have just a few comments. I did also attend League of California Cities and I think there was a couple of times we ended up in the same room and decided to disperse and go our separate ways not only by violating Brown Act but it just made sense you know yeah to get more coverage that way And I'll be bringing my notes back to the next meeting. There was a lot of interesting points and takeaways that I found, one of them had to do with revenue increasing and utility tax streaming.

Utility tax, I don't know if we do that but I'll bring the material to you. I wanted to make sure that you got all Councilman Lopez's and Gamma's stuff first before I bombarded you with my stuff because I know you brace yourself when we go to these conferences. It's like okay they're at a conference so my phone is going to start ringing. That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:16

why

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:16

you get

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:17

paid the big

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:17

bucks. The VCOG dinner is coming up on the 8th. I'll be attending that. Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:41:27

I declined just because I have a schedule conflict

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:30

and Let's see, went to my SCAG meetings on my first of the month every Thursday. I'm downtown LA at the SCAG meeting start with a transportation meeting and then the regional policy meeting and then a group of us walk over and attend the Clean Power Alliance meeting so it's a full day of meetings always good stuff being shared and CPA is working on something right now that we brought to them regarding the power plant on Channel Islands campus. So they're trying to figure out ways that we can maybe monetize that, to help fund the Cal State campus and also with SCAG I'm working on with the Lucy Jones Institute the possible I'm here to talk about the creation of a version two of the San Andreas earthquake scenario. It's a decision-making tool which gives local governments cost estimations on potential damage from a 7.2 earthquake.

There was one done 20 years ago. Lucy wants to update it. And she's looking for support and she's gone to SCAG. I've been part of that convening, helping convene SCAG with her desire to get that done but I'm hoping it happens Patrick Maynard's on board. He's willing to provide some sources of funding to make it happen for our county at least, but it will tell us where we can expect our major damages, infrastructure costs, costs on our mental health services, just every piece of data that you would want to help you better make decisions I'm here to talk about the work that's going on in our community.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:43:38

Asperger children and adults, brain injury survivors. And more currently I assist my 84-year-old mother today as a perfect example taking her to the doctor and trying to navigate through the frustrations through the eyes of an 84-year-old woman. So I'm bringing this up in that we heard tonight that a senior citizen is having difficulty interacting. I think that's something that happens a lot And because I take my mom and I try to lay back and let her navigate her appointments so she could feel independence. And there's often times where I have to step in, and so what I'm trying to say is Maybe there's a need for some specialized training like, hey look. Because when some people like my mom, my mom is going to write a check for every bill she gets and that's just the way it's going to be you know?

And I can't change her and I think maybe we could just take a look at how to identify and work better with challenging people.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:44:48

Great thank you. Go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:44:51

Yeah, I would just like to make a recommendation that the Public Works Director or Assistant and the City Manager. You guys need to attend the Cal Cities event. Just the amount of vendor displays that are out there. There was too much good information not to have that and to sit on some of those briefs were really good. Thank

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:45:15

you.

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:45:28

Yes, and we had a party. And they had a party. What happened at the party? Just for the record I didn't go.

ElectedMartha R. McQueen-LegohnMayorProposed · by role2:45:34

Okay so um a couple of things. I too attended the Banana Festival it was great and I agree with Councilmember Lopez and everyone else who mentioned it that it's just growing it's getting bigger and bigger every year Great time. I attended the 29th Military Appreciation Dinner that was hosted by the West Ventura County Business Alliance. I attended just this weekend, the Mobility 21 Summit that brings public business, transportation, folks in transportation all together from Southern California. A great time. It actually was at Disneyland Hotel. I was not able to go to Disneyland But it was really nice.

I will be attending and that was supported by VCTC, they picked up the bill for that. I'll be attending the California Transit Association Conference and Expo on the 28th through the 30th and that's supported by VC, I mean Gold Coast Transit District. I'll be attending the Navy League, Navy birthday celebration on I think that's Thursday and I'll be presenting some certificates.

And I too will be participating or attending the VCOG dinner. I just want to share one final thing and I'd like to adjourn today's meeting in the memory of Cassie Nolan. If you all remember that name, we recognized her last year I think in the May timeframe as a centenarian. She was 100 at the time. She passed away on September 13th at 101 years old. She is a resident of Hueneme Bay and would like to just recognize her for being someone that we recognize as a centenarian.

If there is no object to that. Okay, great. Is there anything else before we adjourn? Okay, if not I'd like to adjourn this meeting in the memory of Cassie Nolan. One of our dear centenarians that we recognized last year on her passing and so just I know I knew her very well and I'm positive she's resting in peace. And so I'm gonna adjourn tonight's meeting at is it only 846?

at 846. We'll be back here October the 19th at 630 p.m.