City Council — October 19, 2026

The City Council meeting, I am calling this meeting to order. The time is now 530. Madam Clerk please take roll.

Council Member Lopez? Here. Council Member Perez?

Here

Mayor Pro Tem Hernandez, here. Mayor McQueen-Lajon, here and let the record reflect that Councilmember Coma is absent but he should be joining shortly

great thank you I will now hear any public comments related to our closed session comments will be limited to three minutes are there any comments for closed session

no public comments

great thank you Mr. City Attorney, please read our closed session item into the record.

We'll be going into closed session tonight on one item that is pursuant to government code section 54957 subsection B1 related to the city manager's public employee performance evaluation.

Welcome everyone to the City Council regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order, the time is now 637. Please stand and be led by Councilmember Lopez. Great. Madam Clerk, please take a roll.

Council Member Gallo? Here. Council Member Lopez?

Here.

Council Member Perez? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Hernandez? Here and Mayor McLean-Lachon?

Here We're going to have our inspiration tonight by our mayor pro tem Hernandez

Thank you Mayor. With our windows open these days to try to cool off the heat, this is something I've been wanting to do for a long time and it's talk about the sounds of Port Hueneme so I wrote a little story about the symphony of Port Hueneme to talk about what I hear in my neighborhood. The sounds of the city of Port Hueneme reveal its pace of life cultural heartbeat economic activity And sense of community Port Hueneme's soundscape is an auditory mirror reflecting the daily habits histories and spirit of the people who live here. To me the city sounds belong to a vibrant and diverse coastal community with residents seeking their own rhythm for each day before the sun clears the horizon Port Hueneme begins speaking at 5 a.m.. The silence breaks with a gritty rhythm of car door slamming and engines starting One of my neighbors has an especially loud muffler on his car and starts at 5 a.m.

in the morning, but nonetheless these are the opening notes of the day played by early risers, builders and workers heading out to work and keeping our community moving. It's the sound of our economy in motion. By 6 a. m., that solo swells into a steady chorus as traffic picks up along Patterson Avenue where I live and towards the gates of Naval Base Ventura County The early rush carries a comforting reassurance. It is the sound of collective purpose, a citywide promise to show up and provide.

At 755 AM, a first call sounds to warn personnel on the base that colors are approaching and at 8 AM clear notes come with Reveille National Anthem plays over the base and drifts from the Navy Base across Port Hueneme neighborhoods. For a moment, personnel hustle gives way to shared solemn traditional reminders of the Navy's enduring presence in the city. As the morning matures, the city shifts from obligation to a vibrant life by 9am. The air fills with a different kind of energy. The sharp rhythmic pop-pop-pop of pickleball paddles echoing from the local courts Mingled with light-hearted laughter and friendly competitive shouts. Woo! Wow! Hey! Right on cue, the whir of lawnmowers and the steady hum of landscapers join the mix. A chaotic but comforting reminder of people taking pride in the spaces we share.

By 10 a.m., the deep grounded rumble and loud blowing horn of the train as it rolls steadily along the tracks to connect our small coasts to the rest of the world. Lately, the train traffic has increased With cargo trains passing outside my front window, taking military equipment to and from the base. I can't help but wonder where it is going. Above it all, the sky adds its own layer to the symphony. The heavy rhythmic thrum of military transport planes, occasional chopping beat of a helicopter passing overhead and small private planes traveling to and from Oxnard Airport which is about a half mile from my home.

Throughout the day, the soundtrack of our lives plays out in the spaces between with a sudden wail of a siren from a passing fire truck and ambulance or police cruiser that cuts through the air. It's a sharp reminder of the watchful eyes protecting us. A momentary note of gravity that quickly settles back into the casual hum of the neighborhood and under it all are the poorest sounds of life. The warmth of neighbors talking while walking their dogs The fierce unfiltered cry of twin babies who live two doors down from me and the rhythmic beep-beep or delivery trucks dropping off packages at our doors.

At the end of the workday, the evening colors bugle calls carries from the base marking another transition in Port Hueneme's daily rhythm and in my neighborhood on weekends I hear every Saturday night the bright sound of a Mexican band, it is a Umpapa Band joins the city soundtrack, brass percussion and lively melodies traveling through the neighborhood. This music brings families and neighbors together and celebrates the Mexican heritage woven into Port Hueneme's cultural life.

Some might call it noise to me these are layers from a beautiful of a beautiful living symphony. The sound of Port Hueneme alive constantly moving honoring its tradition celebrating its culture Watching over its neighbors and working hard to build a life in our friendly city by the sea. It is these sounds that I find inspiration in the life that I live here in Port Hueneme. Thank you.

Thank you, that was great. So we'll move on to our City Attorney to provide a closed session report.

Yes, first I'd like the record to reflect that although absent during roll call Council Member Gama did join us in closed session this evening and during that closed session there was no reportable action.

Great thank you So we'll now hear from public comments pertaining to items that are not on the agenda. You will have three minutes if you are participating via Zoom, please use the raise hand feature. Madam Clerk do we have any public comments?

Yes I have five in-person public comments in front of me right now first up is Mark Petrosso followed by Becky Bruning

Madam Mayor, members of the Council, staff good evening. I've spoken to you before and I thought it was important to come back and I live at Surfside 4 And I'm here to talk about unpleasant noise on Surfside 4, very well put, Mayor Pro Temp. It's important that I came back. I learned early on in my career and my life, I was a legislative aide for the House of Representatives for the Connecticut State Assembly.

In covering committees in my term, I found it very important to listen to folks who took the time to drive to Hartford And let their elected officials know what was on their mind. I thought it was important, so hence I'm back. Suicide 4 we live across from the parking lot for the pier and the beach one of our best resources amongst many in the city there has been unpleasant noise to define it properly and some public safety issues that I brought you last time I came to speak And the residents of Sunrise 4 just wanted to let you know that we are trying to do our part.

And I think you guys are doing your part too, the chief, the police department, our neighbors. I think they're doing a great job too. I noticed a decoy vehicle at the end of Ventura Road. Thank you. And I think most importantly, one of our neighbors there was somebody in a white pickup truck who was really misbehaving. And police found him. They impounded the vehicle and that's great police work and we appreciate that but we think that we need to keep that going. We think it's important to keep dialogue open with you folks and the Police Department and anybody else who wants to participate in the process But generally, Sure Sight 4 we thank you. We thank you for all that you've done to help us out and we want to keep that dialogue going.

Chief Federico, retiring, congratulations sir. Thank you for always being a great neighbor. And to Commander Albertson, we just hope there is a continued focus on what's going on in our neighborhood and I'm glad that you stayed in house because that continuity isn't short. Thank you very much.

I keep your name.

Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem Council staff and audience. My name is Becky Bruni and I'm here tonight on behalf of Rokupi Outdoors. This coming Sunday will be our last fish day for the year, and we're calling it Spectacular Fish Day. We encourage everyone to wear their Halloween costumes and win a prize.

Mr. Greg Ross?

Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council. I'm here really to echo a lot of what Councilperson Hernandez talked about the noise some is just terrific this city has the best sunsets ever you didn't mention that but I see it every day it's great It's a great city to live in and it's a responsive city. We've asked for certain things, speaking of Sunrise 4 and the parking lot.

You gave us speed bumps down at Market and Surfside. It helped a lot. We still hear the donuts in front of the pier, and I think it even goes to parking lot B as well. I see rubber over there. That's a challenge I know for everybody, and certainly Chief Federico and his group have helped. So I brought This, you each should have this. It's a way of saying thank you for being a city that we all can embrace, telling us where the library is.

Maybe someone's new here? I don't know. And I particularly love the one on the left because some of these truckers They don't live rent-free in my head, but they live rent free on our streets. And they clog the traffic sometimes. I've twice in the last three weeks seen an oversized, took up two lanes actually, a sailboat being towed by a trucker up Ventura Road north of Channel Island Boulevard north of Hueneme Road Anyway, it's a problem. Truckers are a problem and I love these signs. I'd like to see more of these signs because the port they kind of... It's their world and we kind of live in it and sometimes it's very frustrating.

But anyway, I've been a resident of Ventura County since 1970, and I really want to thank this group especially because you're doing a great job and we really like living here. So thanks for listening.

Thank you. And Gordon Hemphill?

Thank you Councilmembers. My reason is here that we have a missing water meter on our HOA. And the last word we got from the city was it was removed in 2010 and has not been replaced. We've done follow up work since then as to why it has not been replaced and I've looked at the drawings of the site and found that we do show two separate feed lines coming into the complex One of those feed lines goes right by my unit, and we are missing five buildings that are not getting what we call proper water pressure. And that's coming from the homeowners themselves.

This is all coming through the property management company which I've been in contact because I'm a board member. And one of the other questions we asked is why hasn't it been replaced? And the last word we got from the city was it's an irrigation line Now our water lines feed 120 some odd units, a pool and two laundry rooms plus the irrigation system. And according to what I said, why does this one person say that's an irrigation line? The last number we got from the city is it's going to cost us $136 to get a new meter put back in. Now when the meter was removed in 2010 It looks like it was supposed to be replaced. We don't want to know why we have to now come up with this money to get the meter replaced. That's why I'm here, is I'm representing all of our homeowners and the board.

Thank you. Can you just

say what community? I think I

missed that. It's the Villa Seville HOA right on Channel Islands We're going to be looking

at a number of things.

I'm here again to address the issue that I still have an ongoing issue with my neighbor. I brought it up to you guys before, still nothing has been done. I don't have emergency access or egress out of my window. It's being blocked still. I surely contact me, send me an email saying it'll be addressed. It's been two weeks since I haven't heard from anybody still.

Edison still won't come out to my property because there is not a five foot clearance around my property to access my panel so I can shut off the electricity so they can do my lights cuz I'm doing my cabinets and still I've heard from you guys. So I guess a little backdrop of the story is I moved away in 2021 came back My palm tree was cut down. There was three feet of my property removed.

He had a dwelling in the front, dwelling in the back and the whole pavement was paved. I sent you guys a picture with Google Maps it wasn't like that when I left. It was the way I left when I sent you guys a picture with Google Maps that you guys are all aware of and when I came back now it's cemented up to my daughter's bedroom So my question is, when are you guys going to address it? And nobody seemed to have contacted me. No one seems to.

I guess more or less acknowledge the fact that there's a problem there rather than it's my problem when it wasn't a problem. You guys are quick to give out tickets when it's six inches over a parking thing, but he has three cars that do not move that are probably two and a half feet away from my house. I'm the only house in Puerto Hueneme that I've looked around, drove around the whole city that I do not have access to my own backyard.

And I'm the only house that, like I said, I've driven around for hours looking at backyards. Oh, they got access. They got access. I do not have access to my backyard. I can't even put a lawnmower through my backyard. Can't take a bike through my backyard because cars are along my side of the property. I sent you guys a picture that I had to get a survey report I mean, why should I have to give a survey report when you tore it down already?

You know what I mean? And what's being enforced? Nothing has been enforced in a year. It's been over a year that I've been coming to you guys and coming to you guys and you guys are saying it's my issue. How is it my issue when Google Maps says this is the property line? I have a survey report that says this is the property line and pretty much adds up close to where the Google Maps thing is and none of you guys have contacted me.

And like I said, only Metrogama came out. And we spoke for a while, right? And no one else has even seemed to. Sure he doesn't think there's a problem still because it's still...I still have three cars parked up against my fence. Like literally up against my fence. And I want to know when you guys are going to resolve the issue because it hasn't been resolved yet. I do not have a fence.

Yes, so due to the Brown Act we aren't able to discuss these issues or code enforcement details during council meetings but you mentioned that Shirley contacted you and that is the person that we would have contact you, the code enforcement

person. But it's a building issue not a code compliance

issue. Code enforcement works with building too. So, we'll make sure that they contact you. We did confirm following the last meeting that there's an active enforcement item so we aren't able to talk about it but they can get back to you and I'll have Shirley or her supervisor Tricia Meyer

get back to you. And the emergency egress that you guys enforce building permits, right? We can't

get in a

back and forth because of the Brown Act. I don't have emergency egress out my windows for emergency rescue windows outside my windows, bedroom windows.

So I would encourage you when Shirley contacts you to work through that.

That concludes public comments.

Thank you. We'll now move to the agenda approval. May I have a motion and a second to approve tonight's agenda? Move to approve.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.

Great do any council members have a conflict of interest to disclose regarding our agenda items tonight? Great, next we're going to move on to presentations. Please welcome Chief Federico and Ms. Christina Magallanes, principal of Hueneme High School. Come on up to the podium please. And while she's coming, Council Member Gama is gonna read the proclamation.

Thank you. Down Syndrome Awareness Month, October 2026. Whereas October is designated as Down Syndrome Awareness Month providing an opportunity to recognize and celebrate the lives accomplishments and contributions of individuals with down syndrome. And whereas down syndrome is a naturally occurring genetic condition that affects individuals of all backgrounds And each person with Down syndrome has unique abilities, interests and potential. And whereas people with Down syndrome enrich our community through their talents, contributions, determination and unique perspectives making meaningful contributions to their families schools workplaces and neighborhoods Whereas individuals with Down syndrome deserve opportunities to learn, work, build relationships, pursue their goals and participate fully in all aspects of community life.

And whereas the City of Port Hueneme recognizes the importance of fostering a community where individuals of all abilities are valued, respected, included and supported. Whereas the city of Port Hueneme recognizes and commends the efforts of individuals families schools organizations public safety agencies and community partners including The port Hueneme Police Department and Hueneme High School in promoting awareness acceptance inclusion and positive community engagement for individuals with Down syndrome And in helping foster a community where people of all abilities are valued and celebrated. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the City Council of Port Hueneme hereby recognizes October 2026 as Down Syndrome Awareness Month in the city of Port Hueneme and encourages all members of our community to promote awareness acceptance inclusion meaningful community connections and opportunities that support quality of life and full participation of individuals with down syndrome.

Proclaim this 19th day of October 2026. Chief Federico

Thank you, good evening everyone. Obviously this is a dare awareness month to me as you see up there our cameo the commish very proud to be our unofficial police commissioner here in the community but she's become an advocate for so many other individuals with special needs but tonight we've invited the team from Hueneme High School over here And we're very proud of Christina as their new principal because she came out of, her career came out of an incredible journey in the special needs world starting as a PARA for the special needs classes.

Back when Cameo the Comish was in high school and we first got to know her then. So I'm incredibly proud of her for everything she's done to work, to get to the role of being a principal and one of the most recognized and I would say busiest high schools out here in our area and we know throughout the whole school district, both in Hueneme Elementary but in the Oxnard High School District where Hueneme High lays they have an incredible special needs department. They have incredible special needs teachers people who care and I've seen first hand on how the success stories of getting our young people to a point in life when they get out of school and get out of the adult school programs that they are functioning and thriving and enjoying life because of the foundation that they gave them.

So I'm very proud of our Hueneme High School team.

Thank you again, I'm Christina Magallanes principal and a lot of what we do of course we can't do without our teachers in Paris so we have a few of our team represented here today Miss Sina if you would like to say a few words?

Good afternoon City Council, Mayor. My name is Sina Tuitama I'm an extensive support needs teacher at Hueneme High School. I'm also here with other teachers Mr. Israel Ibarra, Ms. Taryn Drozdek and our wonderful paras Ms. Adele Fernandez and Ms. Noemi. And we have such a wonderful team here at Hueneme High School and I just want to take a second to say you know Our students truly are special. I know everyone looks at us as high school teachers, you know, as deer in the headlights but our students really come every day and have so much love to give and we are so grateful to serve these students.

It really does take a special people coming together to serve these students each and every single day And we'd also like to thank our community for your ongoing support, for our students and most importantly their families. We are forever grateful to be here to give a shout out to Hueneme High School and all the work that we do and we thank you City of Port Hueneme.

Thank you if there's no one else we're gonna come down and take a photo so don't go anywhere

One, two, three. Keep your eyes open and smile.

OK, we're going to now move to our consent calendar. But before we get there, do we have any public comments?

No public comments.

OK. All right, so we'll move on to our city attorney for a statement to provide regarding the consent calendar and item number four.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. California Government Code requires that an oral announcement be given prior to any action by a City Council that affects the compensation or benefits of executive staff or department heads for the city. And you have on your consent calendar tonight a resolution for the unrepresentative management group, which it does include some qualifying positions under that act. So I would like to just make that oral announcement here that the proposed resolution has a 2% cost of living adjustment effective 2020-27 and another 2% cost of living adjustment that will be effective in January 2028 The proposed resolution also provides an increase to health insurance benefits of $50 a month in the for the employee only category and $75 a month for the employee plus one in family categories.

So with that you can proceed with your consent calendar agenda

great thank you so we have before us a consent calendar these items will be enacted in one motion unless a council member would like to move an item remove an item any items to be pulled this evening If not, is there a motion and a second to approve the consent calendar?

So moved. Second.

Madam Clerk?

All in favor?

Aye.

All opposed? Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.

Great thank you we're going to

I think we're actually inviting representatives from the Veterans Committee to present. And just a reminder, I think it was our last meeting or maybe the one before but we got an update on what the committee was working on and then the council wanted an opportunity to look at some additional details so that committee's presenting again with the additional information. So with that I'll hand it over to Tom Fiala.

Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council and the city clerk. Hello Georgiana you never get the credit so I always like to say hi to Georgiana So yeah, I'm here to talk about the banner program if you guys don't mind So as you know we did the first round back in July. We put up 16 banners and for the most part the city's, the community is pretty happy about it. There were a couple little, just like the first pancake it's never quite right so they have to do a little bit of tweaking this next time around A couple things that we wanted to do is we want to bring those banners a little closer to the ground because they're kind of high up there. They're a little hard to see in some locations, not eye level but like level of like the streetlights that area.

The other thing that we're going to do is we're going to expand the picture make the picture a little bit bigger and We're going to kind of cut out some of the busyness within the whole thing and we're actually going to make the name a little bolder. So, we had 16 the last time around. We have three kind of left over from that one which are gonna go up before hopefully Veterans Day and we have one new one that's coming up and his name is James Daniels And if you don't know who he is, he was on the city council around the Orvine Carpenter era. So I submitted that paperwork the last time we met, the ad hoc committee met and we're gonna shoot... I shouldn't say that maybe that's a bad thing to say but we're gonna do them along Park Avenue These next four because those seem to do really well because Orvines is there, obviously in front of the community center.

And it seems to be the one that we always kind of go to and we're like, that's the way it should go. It's right at its perfect place, it's right by a speed bump so you kinda gotta slow down. So as you're going over the hump, you're like ooh, there's Orvine. So it actually works out really well I don't know, do we have pictures of this, Georgiana? Do we have... Oh! There's a little clicker. Wow, cool.

Hold on a second. Oh, so that's what I was saying before. Yeah, sorry, I didn't know there was a little clicker with this. So you can see we're going to create the font size and the photo kind of just what Probably leave it up there. We're all

good?

Pardon me? Well, I'm going to go there so I don't know who that is. I don't know who the picture of that is.

That's Orvine.

Who is it? That's Orvine. Is that Orvine? Hey, he looks good! Anyway so you can kind of see that there that one sits kind of a little lower than some of the other ones and actually worked out really well but it's kind of hard to see his name if you're cruising by you know at any significant speed it's like I didn't know who it was so we're gonna change that a little bit And make that the font of the name a little bit bigger, and as you kind of see like at the top end below the picture and on top of the picture. It's a little busier so those stars were going to kind of minimize those stars we're gonna kind of take advantage of. Some of the dead areas there and we're gonna we're gonna make it better. So like I said, it's like like the first round We learned a little bit we got it was pretty much all the credit.

We never got any criticism Everyone was very positive about it. There were A couple suggestions and it was the same three or four suggestions. So then, oh the placement. Immediate replacement so yeah I mean we're gonna put these next three are gonna sit along park as the project moves forward, the idea is to kind of hit surfside next. Mostly on the beach side because what we don't want to do is interfere with the people along the surf sides and you know they spend a lot of money to have a view of the ocean or the beach. The last thing they want is Bob right in front of you when you look out your kitchen window so that's why we're going to do it on the other side on the beach side of it So that will be our, and there's a ton. There's no shortage of streetlights there so we'll have plenty of people to honor.

So basically where we don't have, so we have a new version that we're going to do it's a little bit smaller. It's similar to what Oxnard College has for their graduates We don't have a rendered version of this yet. Hopefully, we will have one soon and then you've seen the new ones or you've seen the original ones. We have another version and so the guy that James Daniels who's the newest one, we're going to have both made. We're going to have the original version and the newer version and we're going to take a look at it and go which one works better?

And so between the ad hoc committee and REACH, we'll go with that. We're thinking that the newer version may be a little bit cheaper because it's a tad smaller than the original one. So as it stands right now those versions, the ones that are up there now are at 170 bucks apiece. This could be a little bit lower than that, a little bit cheaper than that. And we actually have all the hardware that was something that was addressed the very first round. I think we have 34 or 35 sets of hardware and we've only used 16 so far.

Oh my goodness, now what do we got here? Oh are we doing... Can you go back to that

last slide?

I got a little buttons here, I can do that.

So I sat on this as just as a council member looking at the direction. There was recommendations made by the ad hoc and we wanted feedback from the Council for discussion So in the application process, you got to be a Hueneme resident to get a banner for your spouse, your son or daughter. Well there's been applications that were rejected because of, you know they may be city staff that live that uh... they work here but they're not residents of the city or a long business owner you know small business owner who spends his whole life here and uh... but he's not a resident of the city and some non-profits that work within Port Hueneme and so We were just wondering, the ad hoc was looking for direction. Is that something that you guys would entertain so they can hammer out the language?

The idea was that some people that work in here and contribute on a constant basis for years technically wouldn't be eligible because they don't live within the city limits. And the question is, should we expand this to include people that participate in the community as well?

So let's do this. How many more pages do you have so we'll have everything when we're talking and asking

questions? There's actually one more slide.

Okay, can we finish your slide and then we'll go into the discussion.

So

yeah, this is the last one right? This is the last slide and this has nothing to do with the banner program but it has everything to do with the Veterans Day coming up. The city manager works through the community parks and rec to honor a veteran who's living, a living veteran So this was kind of signed to the ad hoc committee and they basically, they made recommendations to select David Coger who's part of the veterans ad hoc. And he actually has a really cool story.

He's a resident of Port Hueneme, lifelong resident 34 year military veteran. He actually works at Port Hueneme as a Civil servant, still working for the Navy as a logistics manager. Lieutenant Commander, retired and I'll just put it in a nutshell he started his first job at McDonald's on Patterson and he would look at these military people in uniform and he's like, I want to do that.

And guess what? He lives next to the lighthouse right in that corner so he still lives very close to McDonalds So anyways, he has a cool story. It's a good bio.

Yeah, and he's on the ad hoc committee And I've got again I just kind of met him within the last year and he seems like a very nice guy and it would You know the first year we did this when we started honoring a veteran. We did Larry first Larry Downing and The second time we did Orving, and then we did Tom Morris last year. So David fits right in the middle just as important as those three that kind of continues that short tradition—three-year tradition—of honoring someone that actually deserves the recognition.

Yeah, then the ad hoc was wondering as well is if we want to have some kind of application process that anyone can submit to honor a veteran and let them, kinda like we do with CAC, let them filter it and bring it to the council for the selection. They'll make their recommendation and then we could take that on. So that it's a fair, it doesn't seem like it's not a fair process and we're just trying to fill someone's name in so.

The ad hoc was open to suggestions.

Okay great thank you. Is that the last slide?

Let's find out. Yep, that's the last

one. So let's do this so we kind of stay on the normal process. Let's go ahead and take questions then we'll move from the questions, we'll move to public comments and then we'll come back for discussion and any input that the council wants to provide to the process. So are there any questions for the report as it relates to the report? Any questions? Do we have any public comments?

No public

comments. Okay, so you all have heard Councilmember Lopez's input are there any discussion around that topic at all?

Can I mention a couple things on the banner? Yes, go ahead. The contractor who actually manufactures the banners is called Flag Factory and they're in Carpinteria. They have one graphic designer and he's been sick And so they were supposed to have our renderings Wednesday, and I was following up with Ad Hoc. So he wasn't going to come to work until today. Ours is hot on the list, so we do have two renderings.

One with the original size banner, which is what we see out there is seven feet. They're seven-feet tall banners but the font and the boldness of those letters are too small so he's going to correct those and increase the picture size, correct the font, make it a little more bolder so you can actually try to see it And then we have another banner that is going to be a little more condensed, that we could probably move closer to the ground. But those banners probably wouldn't do good in traffic areas. Those would be good for Park Avenue, Sunrise, the pier, areas where the streetlights are a lot closer to the ground.

And if you ever walk by Morrison Carpenters, you could actually see it really good That was taken from a car. The only reason why I know is they sent me the picture and it looks like it's a far picture, but when you're actually close you could actually see it well. So the veteran ad hoc is going to bring two renderings for discussion. But for now, so if you guys aren't aware Veterans Day is going to be at the Orvine S Carpenter Community Center and they want to hang three additional banners hopefully the fourth gets here on time Near the near the community center so that we can kind of dress the street up Yeah,

we have those just three. So those are the three of their original 19 didn't quite make it in July We have those we actually physically have those so kind of hoping then the next one shows up

So are you going to Institute these changes on future banners, or are you going to? Redo the ones that have been already placed

So that hasn't that hasn't been quite determined yet I personally kind of lean toward not replacing them because there's an expense to that and it gets really expensive and It's something that the ad hoc committee has to still discuss we could do it, but It's kind of you know my opinion is a little bit of waste of money at that point These banners. We don't know how long they're gonna last out in the Out in the elements, rain and wind probably isn't going to damage them too much. But that sun's going to bleach them like crazy so they may only last two or three years. So it's silly to double up on the cost and have it beat up that quick because as they dry out or as they get bleached out we'll remove those, we'll put new ones up.

So there'll be a constant rotation. We just don't know what that limit is, you know could be 60 could be 50 who knows and we don't know how long these banners are going to survive in the elements at the moment.

So my question and comments would be around Welcome to my world. No, so Council Member Gama asked one question. Oh back to Council Member Lopez's information he shared about opening it up to other I'd like to hear more because it sounds like you even mentioned several different you know business owners, nonprofits, you know what I mean?

Yeah, so during these deliberations of the applications people were saying that they didn't submit an application because they didn't meet the criteria of our application. The status of being a home, you know, Port Hueneme as your home. And so we kicked it around and we're like, well since we already have our criteria, we would have to take that to council to make those changes.

But before we just blindly did it, we would want direction. And so the deliberation is do we want city staff employees who reside here or could you be a school teacher who teaches at the elementary? That are not residents or we could have you know small business owners who Had their whole business here, you know working in Port Hueneme, but not a resident So I think the ad hoc was You know there they're locked up because they're meeting the criteria of the application

so when you say when you said they work at the district, are you talking about people that are nominating other people

Yeah so if we take an application but yet they don't have a 93041 zip code, would it be allowed if they work and you know worked here?

But the nominee has a connection to Port Hueneme.

No

I'm just trying to understand oh so neither?

Neither.

Oh okay got it got it I guess the only thing I was thinking about is, the concern I would have is that if we approved banners for people who don't have that Port Hueneme connection and then we have people that come forward with the connection. How do you handle that? That's kind of what I would like to know.

They would prioritize the residents with...

So they would literally take a banner down if there were banners all the way already up and then

No, a banner would not come down for someone that so just there's so many Available spots. Okay. I don't think we will ever hit that threshold but Every two years those banners are supposed to come down

So the current criteria is that the person nominating has to be from winning me is that correct?