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Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, let us pray. Heavenly Creator we are gathered here to thank you and to humbly ask for your continued blessing for our community. We have encountered many difficulties and conflicts and yet we continue to be a beacon around the world Empowered us with a strength, humility and wisdom to seek the goal of all of us. We pray for the upcoming election.
For the opportunity for individuals to directly express their voices in how we are governed. We pray that everyone will vote after studying and pondering the propositions and those seeking office. We pray for all our men and women in uniform that are serving here and abroad, that they will return safely to their homes and families. We pray that our city will continue to thrive and to attract welcome new businesses that will enhance the economic health of our community.
And Father we ask you to share those blessings with those in need. Help us to see Our Lord in the poor The marginalized and to respond with love and kindness. And finally, we remind ourselves that we must never grow weary of doing what is right. Amen.
Thank you, Deacon Al Galeen. Please remain standing if you are able to. Council Member Chavez would you lead us in the Black Salute? City Clerk Tracy girl, would you please do a roll call?
Roll call, called by City Clerk
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Thank you all right next we go on to item five public comment please remember that if you want to speak turn in a public speaker card and You'll be speaking for three minutes In order to avoid intimidation of anybody, please no booing. If you want applause, please do a silent applause as they do like this. Our speakers will be Constance Leshin followed by Steve Werner.
Good evening. From what I've observed, Dan Singer has been a knowledgeable effective and successful city manager. In fact the City of Santa Paula shared this in a press release dated July 1st 2026 quote making marking more than seven years of service to the City of Santa Paula Mr. Singer has led the city through pandemic the establishment of new revenues devoted to city services and the acquisition of the historic Union oil building He has served this community and has been at the helm during a time of exceptional growth, which is honorable and commendable. Let me repeat that, honorable and commendable.
Sounds pretty glowing to me. And then I read that his contract is set to expire and will not be renewed. Why? In a letter published in the August 5th Santa Paula Times, Peggy Kelly, editor and publisher asked the council to abide by California governmental code number 54957 which reads, the legislative body of any local agency shall publicly report any action taken in closed session And the vote or abstention on that action of every member present.
To my knowledge, this was not done at the meeting when it was decided that Dan Singer's contract will expire on its own terms on June 30th, 2027 and will not be renewed. Again I ask why? Instead the city is going to step into the unknown and spend thousands of our taxpayer dollars In search of a new city manager. I think this is an unwise decision, a waste of time energy and our taxpayer dollars.
Each of you, members of the Santa Paula City Council, Mayor Juarez, Vice-Mayor Crosswhite, councilmembers Chavez, Cornejo and Ornelas need to let us your constituents know why Mr. Singer's contract was not renewed. In addition if you are going to go ahead with a search and there are no viable candidates then I urge you to extend Dan Singer's contract for two more years thank you
Thank you, Councilor Sleszczyn. We have now Steve Werner followed by Daniel Melendez.
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Good evening my name is Steve Werner I'm here again in front of you to talk about the RV parking issue because I want to keep it in front of everyone's eyes because it's definitely a quality-of-life issue for a growing number of us have been putting together a group and it's getting pretty big and nothing's been done They say that there's supposed to be a workshop happening. There were three items in front of us that there was supposed to be a workshop for. I've seen no workshops for anything, so I've cleared my October calendar. I'm ready for a workshop get together put this together so we can go on and not have to worry about if we're going to get more violations in our mailbox. I know there's a pause on it right now but I would like that to be finalized so there's no more violations.
So thank you
Thank you, Mr. Werner. Next we have Daniel Melendez who will be followed by Gladys Valdovinos. Okay all right thank you Mr. Melendez. We have now Gladys Valdovinos and then no one after that unless we have somebody on social media or in Zoom
Good afternoon City Council. My name is Clarice Valdovinos and I'm the president of the 400 Craig Drive Mobile Home Owners Association. I'm here today because I'd like to thank the city of Santa Paula and City Council, and thank you for the attention you've given the mobile home ordinances, the mobile home ordinance, and we look forward to the next City Council meeting. Thank you.
All right, thank you Clarice Valdovinos. City Clerk Grove, do we have anybody waiting on Zoom to come on board?
No Mayor.
All right thank you and if there's anybody else that wants to speak please submit a public speaker card thank you. We're going to
move on to item number six presentation This is a long time coming and thank you for joining us tonight. This will be the ladies Raiders flag football recognition, but I would like to ask somebody from the coaching staff if they would like to speak? We have several certificates and photo opportunities as well. Or even if the students want to speak of course.
The players.
I just wanted to say thank you so much for having our team come today, this evening. We really appreciate it. Our girls have worked super hard to where they're at now. We are a new team to Santa Paula We emphasize all ages from 10 to 14 every Friday. And Saturday, we have exhilarating training. These girls that are behind me and there's some more that are missing have put in the work for the last eight months together and we won our Super Bowl representing Santa Paula.
So it's a big accomplishment. The head coach Eric Veloz, my husband. He is not here today he's working night shifts but I'm here on his behalf we have our general manager George Romero and all of our girls we want to make ourselves known here and you know it's free of cost of coming to play with our team yeah
Real quick, this is a good public service announcement time. So could you just give us a quick overview of what it took for them to get here? How it started how many games if you
at first Since I said we're we've been an established team for eight months prior to that It was my husband my two daughters We were formally given the name of the 49ers with NFL League and We had a bunch of different girls that were on the team, and we wanted to say to ourselves what can we do to bring Santa Paula to be represented. So George our general manager and his daughter and we have a lot of of their girlfriends, they decided hey let's form a team and let's unite. So we established our team with NFL flag representing Lady Raiders and we won every single game but one. And then when we got to the championship, we won it fair and square. We were playing against some high schoolers so our girls range from 10 to 13. So it's, you know we memorize what were our opponents and we came out strong in the end.
You guys want to show your rings? The ones that brought it today? So I mean it's a big accomplishment, but these girls they put in the work. They are dedicated 100%. They are really what's the word I want to use? My husband, he bleeds for these girls day in and day night. Changing the playbook every single night what can benefit our center, our quarterbacks, our receivers. He is the heart of this whole foundation and without any of these girls behind us and their family members that have put in the hours we wouldn't be here.
So thank you so much.
Well thank you and when did the championship game take place?
It took place in August. August 23rd, we won 24 to 20 so it was a tight game.
All right. And we apologize for the lateness, but we wanted to make sure one that summer breaks were over and able to get everybody here and even so we're missing your husband.
Yes, and we got offered a date by Pedro, but we got offered play at the SoFi Stadium which we were just at. So we do appreciate you bringing us back out here
today. Sure absolutely. Before we give certificates any of the young ladies want to say anything? Be on TV? Bring the microphone down
first. I just wanted to say thank you and sorry, I'm nervous. Yeah, just thank you for letting us come over here and letting us represent Santa Paula.
Thank you.
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I just wanted to say thank you for letting us be here and giving these certificates to us because we worked hard for it.
I just wanted to say thank you for our coaches who brought us here from the very beginning. They're loving and sweethearts that brought us to where we are. Everyone on the team has gone better than they began. I just want to give my shout out to our coaches, not just the team because a team has obviously coaches that make us who we are and make us how much better we are. Brought us from one end to now and I just wanted to say thank you.
I just wanted to say thank you for letting us be here today. I want to give a shout out to my mom, my stepmom and my dad. I am so thankful for my dad for letting us be the ladies that we are and spending so much time with us and being with us and training us. And I want to give a shout out to my mom for supporting me throughout this whole journey. She's not a football fan but she will be now because she's with me.
I just want to give a shout out to my stepmom because she's a team mom and she does a lot of stuff for us.
Hi, I just want to say thank you for letting us come and thank you for the awards that you're about to give us and thank you to the coaches that helped us improve a lot better than we were before.
Thank you so much also Pedro For always taking care of our team and having faith in all of us.
All right, so I have... Is that everybody? That's it. Okay, so what we'd like to do is read the certificate that is the same for all the... Oh, is there one more?
Go Jessie!
Oh
yeah. I just wanted to say thank you for letting us come here and using your time.
You're very welcome. Is that everybody sure? Yes. Alright, okay. So this certificate is worded the same, but it has a different name. And what we'll do is we'll read it and then we'll have you come up here and we'll give you your certificate. We'd like to take a picture first with the young ladies at one, and then we'd like to recognize the staff. Okay, Certificate of Recognition presented to Lexi Iwany Romero, Super Bowl champion, Lady Raiders flag football.
In recognition of your outstanding achievement as a member of the Lady Raiders flag football team, winning the Super Bowl at Ventura College. Your dedication, teamwork, perseverance and commitment throughout a challenging journey have brought pride and honor to our community. This historic accomplishment reflects your hard work on and off the field and sets a lasting example for future generations of Santa Paula athletes.
This is signed by me, Carlos Ward Mayor. Today October 7th 2026 so that we have one for Lexi Juani Romero Then we have Jalene Gonzalez Okay, we'll save that for her And we have Miranda Gonzales Josie Romero Athena Carrasco. Veronica Vasquez. Abbey? Abbey. Abbey, sorry. Galeen? Jesse Ramirez. Brooklyn Bellows. Charisma Bellows. It appears. Oh, here
it is.
I'm scared here. Cruz Mivelos? Sorry. There you go. They hid yours on me. And Kimmy Veloz. Oh wait, wait. What about... Are we missing one?
She's part of our team.
Oh then, I'm sorry.
She can come up but she wasn't on the Super Bowl with
us. Okay, let's have the council stand up and be recognized. Stand up with these ladies. Why
don't we just take a
picture here?
We can sit on either side.
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Brooklyn, you got to open it up.
Jesse open it
up. Ready? One, two, three. Perfect. I'm
going to
go in here too.
Thank you so much.
All right, let's stay here for a second. Now we're going to call up the coaches and other staff. There's other actually designations so... So these are awarded differently so we're going to read each one. This is a certificate of recognition presented to Eric Velos, Super Bowl champion Lady Raiders flag football. In recognition of your outstanding achievement as the head coach of the Lady Raiders flag football team, winning the Super Bowl at Ventura College. Your dedication, teamwork, perseverance and commitment throughout a challenging journey have brought pride and honor to our community. This historic accomplishment reflects your hard work on and off the field and sets a lasting example for future generations of Santa Paula athletes. Carlos Suarez, Mayor of Santa Paula October 7th 2026.
Eric if you would join us up here?
This is a certificate
of recognition presented to Cesar Preciado, Super Bowl champion Lady Raiders flag football in recognition of your outstanding achievement as the defensive coach of the Lady Raiders flag football team winning the Super Bowl at Ventura College. Again, the last paragraph is worth reading again. Your dedication, teamwork, perseverance and commitment throughout a challenging journey have brought pride and honor to our community. This historic accomplishment reflects your hard work on and off the field and sets a lasting example for future generations of Santa Paula athletes.
So Cesar Preciado?
He is also working late tonight as well. But George will take his award on his behalf. That's his son-in-law.
Hold on, so then we got another one. Certificate of Recognition presented to George Romero. Super Bowl champion Lady Raiders flag football in recognition of your outstanding achievement as the general manager of the Lady Raiders flag football team winning the Super Bowl at Ventura College. Your dedication, teamwork, perseverance and commitment throughout a challenging journey have brought pride and honor to our community. This historic accomplishment reflects your hard work on and off the field and sets a lasting example for future generations of Santa Paula athletes.
And last but certainly not least, and I'm sorry. I thought you were one of the students. I thought they might have mixed them up. So
certificate
of recognition presented to Kimmy Bellows.
Thank you.
Super Bowl champion Lady Raiders flag football in recognition of your outstanding achievement as a team mom, videographer of the Lady Raiders flag football team winning the Super Bowl at Ventura College. And again your dedication teamwork perseverance and commitment throughout a challenging journey have brought pride and honor to our community this historic accomplishment reflects your hard work on and off the field and sets a lasting example for future generations of Santa Paula athletes. Carlos Suarez Mayor October 7th 2026 Let's take another quick picture with and if you would please Okay, they'll take
it
Thank you
guys, thank you so much.
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Thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. And when my husband's in town, I'll have him walk to you as well. Congratulations! Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Yeah, everybody if everybody could just stand by for just one minute the council would like to make some comments All right, so you know what we're gonna do
real quick
is
Thank you, everyone.
You know, as soon as I get their words people are all like, I gotta go home. But no, we think it's time for our council to if they have comments to state on this historic moment. So Council Member Chavez?
Thank you Mayor Juarez and our youth are the heart of our community. And every time I come home I see the girls practicing late and there is such dedication and you guys have such a positive spirit so just keep it up And you're an example for so many of our young people. And this is your city hall, so never thank us because this is your house. Okay Raiders?
Thank you! Thank you.
Council Member Conell
Just real quickly just congratulations again to you all it's an amazing feat in eight months to win the Super Bowl So I think that's awesome and just onward and upward and just keep doing what you're doing Thanks to you all and I love your logo
Thank you all for being here and like Councilmember Chavez said, don't thank us. We're just normal people like you guys
We're up here because we're representing all of you. So I'm a mom of three girls, I love seeing that we have a team of girls that's playing a sport that's not so conventional for us girls to play. So, I love seeing it keep doing it. I have a soon-to-be 13 year old, I already showed her your picture I saw on Facebook she's cheering right now but I hope that she takes the leap and decides to join you guys too. But thank you coaches, thank you parents, thank you everybody who encourages your girls to do what they're doing. And eight months is a very short amount of time for you to go from not playing flag football to winning the Super Bowl so you girls should be very proud of yourselves. That certificate you're holding is a really cool thing to have but the memories you guys are making together you get to have for the rest of your life.
So congratulations keep doing what you're doing and I can't wait to see you guys win another one! I see it. I see it. So congrats to the parents for the work you're doing, congrats to you girls for the way you carry yourselves. Again as a girl mom apparent period, I'm really proud of you all and it's really exciting to see Santa Paula being represented in something that again is not so conventional. So it's really exciting.
Thank you. My son-in-law Eric, too bad he's not here. But if you guys ever have the opportunity to go see him and practice, you'd be amazed. I see them, their drills, memorizing all their plays, going out there performing. They have come a long way but he has put this together and I really admire him for that.
I'll make sure to tell him when I see him again. But for me, I don't know where do they practice and what time? I know Friday and Saturday
but... On Fridays we are at the Limoneira Harvest Park where the soccer fields are at from 530 to 730. And now my husband's also purchased six tower lights on the field because there is no lights there so everyone is safe. And then on Saturday we practice At the Harvest, right at the smaller park. McKevitt Park excuse me from 7 a.m to 9 a. m. Like I said if anyone wants to we have people coming from Santa Barbara, Carpinteria, from the Avenue, from Port Hueneme.
Lexi comes from Hawaii so she'll be deploying with her family to San Diego so we have a lot of girls coming All the way just to play with us.
That's awesome, congratulations!
Thank you guys.
I'm just, we're really proud of you as a community. Like not just us as a council but the community is really proud of you and it's an honor for us to get to recognize you all and for your accomplishment. And we're just really grateful for your family members that have supported you through this and your coaches and all of the long hours that all of you Have put in to reach this accomplishment and like others have said in such a short amount of time We're really excited to see what you're gonna do next. So
the
future is
bright
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And well, and also finally again I mirror what all my colleagues have said but you guys did a fantastic job. It's an honor to honor you this evening and the coaches and moms for everything that you do. The people that aren't here that also deserve a great deal of gratitude is your parents, family members that support you. I'm sure they're watching you on TV right now so anyway give them thanks for us as well. Thank you very much.
We're going to lose like 80% of the room now. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank
you, have a good night.
Carlos, take care of him.
Thank you so
much, have a good night everybody.
Could you pass that to Tracy? Well, certainly not as exciting but very informative.
We'll move on to item 6B, City Manager's Department Report May 26th through August 26th. Dan
Singer? It's a hard act to follow. There's a lot our department got done but nothing seems to rise to the level of winning a Super Bowl, right? So I'm not going to give too much attention to the report because you have it in front of you. But let me just highlight a few things that we've been Hard at work participating in between the months of May through August.
As you know we helped deliver the Athens negotiations to you along with your subcommittee, have been working with spirit on what was supposed to be a possible transition that didn't come about but a lot of time and effort was put into it And we've been participating in a lot of the forums and meetings around the eventual, what looks like the closure of the Santa Paula Hospital.
Significantly, on our legislative affairs side we worked with our congresswoman in Washington D.C., and it looks like we've secured possibly as much as 1.1 million dollars for our police department and public safety. Unfortunately the feds have postponed the adoption of their budget so our request is in the federal budget but we won't know until the budget's actually approved and signed by the president whether or not those funds will come our way end of winter.
We're busy sending a lot of letters of support and advocacy on the city's behalf and on the council's behalf, and our public information officer slash deputy city manager and our fellows have been hard at work sending out a number of kind of campaigns around advocacy efforts and some fundraising and some community service announcements We've done 15 press releases, had 5 employee newsletters, had 4 community newsletters and created and distributed numerous social media posts.
There's been a lot of employee engagement efforts underway over those four months and also our management fellows when we now have a full complement Have been very supportive of things like the business roundtables and our monthly newsletters, as I mentioned. Our military banner program and other projects. HR has been active in recruiting for new positions and also doing a lot of employee trainings and what we call lunch-and-learns.
Those are all identified for you in the report. We successfully recruited a new community and economic development specialist, a management analyst in housing. You'll get to hear from her. Gloria Para in a little bit, new recreation program coordinator, new police officer position and an associate engineer in our public works department. And our IT has been busy as well as you'll see on the report.
And finally, happy to report we're very close to getting our gates in our parking lots and all of our key cards implemented. Our IT department have been helping to get that underway for us. 17 different city council agendas and minutes, two bid openings. A number of postings, 171 public records requests in just a four month period. So you may recall I reported to you that last year we hit a record of 400 requests in the year and we're now far in excess of that and the years not over so really overwhelming.
The elections are upon us, so our clerk's been very busy helping with that and facilitating that process which will conclude after November 3rd. But her job and Tracy's job won't conclude because then there's the seating of new elected officials and the swearing in and all of the things that come with the reporting of that. That kind of concludes our summary. Happy to answer any questions that Council might have.
Thank you, Mr. Singer. Any questions of the City Manager?
I have a couple questions. In the report you mentioned the recruitment under Public Works of an associate engineer. How many positions are currently open for in Public Works?
We have just filled, and it wasn't in this report but we've just filled a street supervisor. So we have assistant public works director slash city engineer position that's open. We have two street maintenance worker positions that are open and I think that might be it? I'm looking at our public works director. He's looking at our finance director. I'm pretty sure that's it our fleet division is now fully staffed And are your administrative positions? I think are fully staffed oh Yes, yes, I'm sorry we also have two Positions in our water division that are open
and then a follow-up question was and I'm sorry that a lot of the people had left on Because they were coming here to hear about the mobile home park.
Yeah,
is this where you can mention something about
I'd be happy to and I'll ask our new interim city attorney to do some of that but we you know we're aware that there's Opportunities both to come back to the council with a modified ordinance, even if that's somewhat narrow. As well as discussions about better researching what was the measure P ballot measure that kind of created the ordinance that we've been living with. So we're looking to research that so we better understand exactly what that language marries us to. But Kellen do you want to add anything?
Yeah, so the first thing we're doing which we started earlier this week trying to get measure the actual language of measure P because that will actually dictate what your hands are tied to and what we can potentially craft as changes to that without having to go back to the voters. So once we have the actual language I'll be able to look at what is permitted legally because it's going to be very dependent on how strict that language is, or it might be it was written broad enough that we can do quite a bit of things. So we're trying to get that. It's from I think 92 so we are probably gonna have to go to the clerk or dig through our records to get that but that's underway to be able to bring something back.
And that includes getting an answer to the question of the moratorium right?
Yes correct.
Okay and then my final question is Do you know when we will expect to see the employee survey results that were going to become, come to council?
From the employee engagement.
Yeah.
Yeah, we delivered those to council I think in January.
But there was going to be a presentation done by the consultant regarding the results of that.
A public presentation?
Yeah. Okay. That was part of the... do you know when that's slated to
happen? No it was not on my radar screen. My apologies, I did not know that that was an expectation.
Yeah
Thank you any other questions for the city manager Okay, seeing none that's a receiving file so we'll go ahead and accept it next We
move on to item number 6c finance department report this is going to be presented by Beatrice Jimenez assistant finance director
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Good evening, Mayor and City Council. My name is Beatriz Jimenez and I am the Assistant Finance Director for the city of Santa Paula. And today I will be presenting the Department Activity Report for our department. Beginning with accounts receivable Council receivable is responsible for preparing invoices and receiving funds for various payments to the city, for items such as transient occupancy tax, rents for city-owned properties, billing for COBRA, sorry about that. Billing for COBRA retiree health special events and permits during this quarter AR was also able to get caught up on all state and county reporting Next is our licensing, which is in the lighter workload of business licensing. Staff continues to process monthly dog license renewals.
Daniel is also working on processing renewals, payments, answering questions and issuing business licenses as needed. Because we are in the lighter phase of licensing this has allowed Daniel more time to help with our utility billing staff And our finance director on special projects that we previously have not had the capacity to do. For example, he's been able to assist UB as they've received a higher call volume due to the water division swapping out meters. Daniel is also able to assist with more of the technical and analytical questions as he's been in that position for a longer time about four years on and off.
He's also been able to help create training materials for his position which will discuss further when we get to staffing changes. For accounts payable, our Accounts Payable Accounting Specialist processes disbursements to cover the financial commitments of the city. In this four-month period she has processed almost 5,000 invoices totaling $22 million. The biggest expenses in this time frame include $6.1 million in payroll related expenses such as retirement taxes and benefits. This amount is higher than normal due to our yearly Unfunded accrued liability contribution, this year coming out to 3.3 million.
$8.9 million in bonds and loan payments, $3.4 million in insurance costs, $205,000 in legal costs, $1.7 million for utilities and sewer operating costs, $420,000 in groundwater pumping charges, and $2.9 million for professional services including work done related to capital improvement projects. She's also responsible for reconciling the monthly warrants and check register that is presented to council.
Purchasing has processed over 129 new purchase orders and 59 carryover purchase orders. Purchasing has also continued to provide support to various departments with regarding bid requirements, responses and answering staff's question relating to the fiscal year end process around POs and carryovers. Utility billing continues to work with residents on creating payment arrangements for delinquent accounts and working with customers to prevent shutoffs when possible.
The amount of notices sent, as well as the amount of physical shutoffs conducted remains consistent across the period neither increasing nor decreasing substantially from month-to-month. Payroll continues to train new staff on the time entry process She also handles multiple retroactive calculations for pay increases in the period as needed. With the start of the fiscal year in July, we entered year two and our last year of our current MOUs. Apparel ensured that all of these changes in relation to the MOU happened smoothly and with no disruption to staff.
She's also successfully processed quarterly reports related to state and federal reporting. For staffing changes during this four month period, there have been some changes within the finance department structure. We welcome to board two people in different positions but there are no new faces. In July we had an accountant position that was reclassified to a management analyst.
This position was created in order to help the growing needs of both the city and the department. In August, Finance along with the help of HR performed an internal recruitment for an open accountant position that became vacant last May with the retirement of a long-time employee. And we're happy to announce that this recruitment was successful and Daniel started on Monday as our newest accountant.
This does mean we have vacancy for our accounting specialist position And we will begin open recruitment soon. However, given the timing of how long a recruitment typically takes, we will be looking for TEM help to help out immediately with the clerical aspect of business license renewals. Daniel has been able to help create training materials for this position to allow for a smoother transition.
And for other activities and achievements, we're close to finalizing the audit for fiscal year 24-25 We're also working towards reconciling our liability counts, which will allow us to get caught up on our developer deposits. The finance department is also assisting the water division on utility billing-related projects such as contacting customers on getting caught up with a backflow devices testing that are overdue and we're working on closing fiscal year 26 in completing all needed journal entries in order to be prepared for our upcoming audits.
We're also assisting the Parks and Rec Department to reconcile current and upcoming filming as well as special projects. And lastly, finance is working with the Admin Department to reconcile ARPA funds in order to make some final adjustments and re-appropriations to meet that timeline and close a project in early December of 2026. And with that I'll conclude the presentation.
Thank you for your presentation. Is there any questions for our Assistant Finance Director Beatrice Jimenez? Council Member Grinnell?
Thank you. I'm not sure you can answer this, but I'm noticing that the insurance cost for that quarter was $3.4 million. Is that unusual? Is that due to settlements? That can't just be What we pay for insurance.
It is a yearly cost so it would show up in this quarter versus any other time of the year I'm sure there was some type of increase but I'm hoping Christy can add a little bit more.
There was an increase, we addressed it in a previous quarterly report. I believe there was across the board and different cities there was an average of what a 20% increase then? 22% increase so there's a lot of factors that go into it Not only our cost, but the pool costs. So yes, there's definitely been an increase in insurance costs
And then this is a general question also Who tracks when we submit our? special assessments like PBIT to the county for billing I know Not this year, but a prior year we almost missed getting it on the assessment. So is that a particular file or it's something that you have? How is that tracked?
So when you say tracked in terms of whose responsibility is it is a joint responsibility between the finance department and I feel like that's really not a joint responsibility between the finance department and the divisions that are in charge over their roles. PBID, we have the DCM being the point person. The CFD, we have Will Den as the administrators. The GAD and Hillsborough districts, we have Public Works as the administrators.
The one year that we missed it was the first year for PBID. I think at the time staff wasn't as familiar with the requirements and the deadlines since then. We in finance have made it a mission to make sure that that does not happen again. So we initiate the conversations and we bother people, and we say as a reminder if this does not happen because at the end of the day if the PBIT assessment does not go on to the property tax roll, we still have to build those things. And that is a lot of work for finance to do so we never want to be put in that position again.
And for that reason I don't say that it falls on us as the responsibility to be the responsible ones, but we are kind of the alarm clock for those who are responsible. So as
long as there's some sort of tickler or tracking mechanism, that's the main thing. All right. Appreciate that. Thanks. Thank you.
Any other questions? I have a question real quick. Go ahead Council Member Chavez.
Can you remind us how many months someone has to be past due before shut off happens?
It has to be 60 days past the due date.
And you had mentioned that you didn't see any significant trends from month to month. But compared year-to-year, what are we seeing in terms of shutoffs? And the reason why I'm saying is because affordability has been an issue and utility bills because they're not... They're kind of used as a delay payment in order to pay other bills. Are we seeing any of that in terms of impacting shutoffs for people that are past due?
I didn't ask that question to Daniel, to be honest with you. I asked about during the quarter but not about year-to-year.
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And I can answer just having been here for years. There is no significant increase, in fact we're doing better now than pre-COVID times and I think a lot of that has to do with one we are seeing we have been told some checks from Community Action so there may be additional assistance that is being provided there. We also have found great success in our payment plans. So when people can't pay, we offer them the opportunity to stretch that out over a large period of time and that's been very helpful for people.
All right. Well Beatrice Jimenez, thank you for your report. Chris Ramirez, thank you for assisting her. This will be received and filed for the May 2026 through September 26 quarterly report We now move on to City Council reports if we could start off with councilmember Chavez if you have something to I saw you submitted a written but
Yeah, I did a quarterly report July through September. It's available and I'll put it through social media. I just wanted to highlight a couple of things, a few things. One, Vice Mayor Rosewood and I recently went to the Project Isabella. Meeting at the Casa del Mexicano is truly an opportunity for re-engagement. I think it might be best that we probably in the future appoint someone to be an official representative to that task force, to that group. I did bring back some resources that I wanted to share with Council Member Ornelas Because all the decks, we have access to on our phone so if you see a topic that you might interest you.
I can download it and just email it to you. So provide you that information that are brought back. I also had three workshops that attended that I'm going to share with the city manager and staff. One was our AI strategies and case studies. The other one was on delivering homeownership repair and affordability at scale, and the third one was revitalizing downtown without losing the old town soul.
So when we go to these conferences, we always bring back information and I always like to share that information. And I do want to acknowledge our Parks and Recreation Department for their rapid response in making sure the community center was open as our residents were dealing with severe high temperatures. And I still continue to remain concerned that we have yet to debrief or formulate any discussion or plan. Regarding the aftermath of the Board of Supervisors decision regarding the Santa Paula Hospital.
I will be making, putting a future agenda item forward probably as we change and transition leadership on the council. And I do want to acknowledge and thank and remind all the residents that we are so fortunate to have good standing relationships with our elected officials in higher office That led to the collaboration to $1.5 million in state funding that's going to come down thanks to Senate President Pro Tem Monique Limon, and that's exciting so Greg is going to have more funds in order to make sure that sports complex achieves what it's intended for. So again thanks to the staff and everybody involved in the appropriation process and to all the elected officials who were part of the relationship building.
And that's it. Thank you. Move on now to Councilmember Cronin.
Thank you, Mayor. I'll just list a few of the things that I attended representing the city. September 17th, Ventura Regional Sanitation District. I'm chair elect so I'll be very busy with that next year. Ventura Council of Governments. Chair-elect for that, so I'll be busy with that. So got a lot of things to line up for next year. And again like other council members attended the League of California Cities conference it's just always well worth speaking to other cities on how they're solving their problems and giving us ideas and that exchange is really valuable And they had an excellent lineup of sessions for us to learn as well. The 26th, I participated in the Rotary Rally as a stop. So I gave people water and blonde brownies and stickers and hope that helps.
Rotary do well with their good works in the city. On the 28th, participated with the rest of the council on our interviews for committee positions that we'll be discussing later in this agenda. 29th attended the two by two meeting with the school board with Council Member Ornelas, City Manager and the Mr. Weinstein, Jeff Weinstein's title is Superintendent Weinstein always an excellent exchange and appreciate so much as well staff and then the two members from their board on how we work together as a city on common themes in common projects as opposed to being in competition with each other which I think it used to be more of a past kind of thing And that is not just this year, in recent years it's been a wonderful thing that's been building and very helpful I think to our city.
On the 5th last week Gloria Martinez who is with the county and also Mar-a-Mar City involved in chamber gave me a tour of The Hive out at Camarillo Airport which is an amazing place for business innovation, business forward. It's like a red carpet for economic development for companies that want to come in and network and it's just an amazing place so Talk to her and get a tour because it's well worth it.
And then just before this meeting tonight, we met with an invitation of Latino Town Hall regarding the Santa Paula Hospital Task Force They're working on these Working on this mayor can maybe add a bit more to this but they're just looking for ways for us to work together and also grow up a coalition on the same themes of developing and Better health care for our the future of our Valley. Thank you
Thank you Council Member McNeil. Council Member Nellis?
Just two things, which Council Member Kornejo already mentioned. I attended the 2x2 meeting with our school district staff. It was nice to hear everything that they have going on and for us to be able to share as a city what's happening and the committee interviews as well. I was able to be a part of that and we'll be discussing those candidates later. That's it.
All right thank you. Vice Mayor Crosby?
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Yes. Let's see, it's been busy. At the League of California Cities Conference I attended a bunch of really interesting workshops. There are some years where you go eh they were okay like I chose poorly but this year there was a lot of really interesting stuff from stuff about economic development and code enforcement to speaker on where I went to a really interesting one on where they think people will live by 2050 and how that trends for how that might change versus where people now live. Now, I want to really look interesting one on my municipal finance and then also one on afforded or one on affordability. And one of the things that didn't expect to be talked about there. But apparently the California That might apply to they might want to look into the terms of that.
They offer loans between $5,000 and $50,000 to help grow businesses. I also attended another conference, the Mobility 21 Transportation Conference Which was also really interesting, looking at kind of like what were the advances that have happened in technology and transportation? And then starting to sort of vision what might transportation look like in the future.
And then that's just a one-day conference. And then I had my California Council of Governments meeting and they do an annual housing law and policy Meeting which in the past was in person, but it's actually they're going to try a virtual format this year. And so it's going to be a three part series on October 29th, November 12th and November 17th from 10am to 1230pm.
And there's more information on the calcog.org backslash housing dash update website if anyone is interested in attending that virtually they'll go over some of the major changes in They had a very sophisticated cyber attack that And had sent had been there when they're after the better had been hacked. They were able to send a very convincing email that diverted the payment from where it was supposed to go, so they just wanted us to let all of the agencies that we are associated with give them a heads up that something like that could happen just so that we could review all of our payment processes to make sure We're accounting for that.
And I know we do a lot of stuff by check, but or other similar means, but just wanted to give everyone the heads up on that. Let's see at my clean power reliance. I had 3 different meetings which included our board retreat. But I think I will save my updates on that for now. There's a program that's going to be transitioning, but I'll wait and share once it's transitioned what the new things that will be at that program will offer.
Southern California Association of Governments also had three meetings. And so one today if you don't already know was Clean Air Day in the state of California and we did celebrate That at our Southern California Association of Governments meeting. If you missed it, that's okay. You could still find another day and choose to have at least one of your trips be by bike walk carpool some activity to help make the air a little bit cleaner for the day.
We also celebrated that SB 1087 was signed into law. That was our CEQA reform Small part of civil reform, but it will have impacts potentially on how the arena. The regional housing needs assessment numbers get allocated because it requires the state to take into consideration the actual planning numbers that SCAG has developed talking with all of our cities And so when they were asked at our meeting, we had members from the CHED, the Community Housing and Economic Development Department from the state that were at our meeting in LA. And they said well, we don't know yet the impact that it's going to have but there will be some different rules around how those numbers, at least the conversations that lead up to those allocations.
So we'll see how that works. It will also change The planning cycle from a 4 year planning cycle to an 8 year planning cycle for the sustainable community strategy going forward. So that will over a million dollars a year just in our every 4 years. Just in the planning costs for that. The sustainable community strategy strategy and then the hope will be I also, there were some really good presentations at my Energy and Environment Committee meeting for SCAG. But the one thing that I will share that I have actually looked at since the meeting was it's called Cal Heat Score. And what it does is they did a ranking based on your zip code, based on your average weather, based on economics For the impact that any given heat event will have on your community.
So it's updated on a daily basis, you can go on, it ranks it from 0 to 4 and there were large parts of Southern California that were under a four. And what they found is that when you're under what they call a heat score of four, there's 75% more people go to the hospital. During those heat events. And so someone had asked, well, but there's some parts of the state that are hotter than others and that's all taken into consideration. But when you have areas where fewer people have air conditioning They have more health issues they find that those areas are great have a greater impact from the heat. So again, that's Cal Heat score You can go to our website. Cal EPA dot CA dot gov backslash map if you want to go directly to the page of the map and you can see on any given day what your heat score is and more and more agencies, especially hospitals are using those scores or they're encouraging employers who have employees that work outside It was a really interesting tool.
And then just one more plug for the Future Leaders Initiative Cohort 2, there's one more online workshop tomorrow for anyone who is interested. This is put on by the Southern California Association of Governments. We've had two of our former fellows that went through this program, one of whom is here with us tonight somewhere over there, Gloria Mara. Was in the first cohort So if you know any other young adults who might be interested, it's a six month civic leadership program Focused on those interested in civic leadership regional planning policy development or community engagement they receive a 500 stipend dollar stipend for participating in the program and Applications are due by October 27th at 5 p.m.. Thank you
Thank you, Vice Mayor.
Just to follow up real quick to the heat score. Sure. Because it's all interconnected right? Like we are in a severe, we're category four right so not having a hospital... We're going to be extremely impacted by all this heat stuff and I think several years ago we were talking about climate and the resilience plan Has there been conversations on what the score, aside from knowing these factors, what are things that can mitigate? What can local cities do? Have there been conversations on that?
There is starting to be conversation about that as well. But since it's not agendized I don't want to go too far into that right at this moment.
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All right thank you. I attended the candidates forum on Tuesday the 9th And you really got to, again, give a big kudos to the League of Women Voters and David Marin for running a great candidates forum. It's great to be sitting in the audience instead of up there at the table with other future candidates. But it is recorded because people told me they've been watching it. So it is available if you want to watch the candidates being asked those questions. And again remember to vote and we do have a voting box drop off here in front of City Hall.
I also went to the League of California Cities and as the other council members mentioned, there's plenty of speakers and a lot of good classes. Two that really stuck out to me was AI and just see the advantages but also the problems you could face. It was really interesting to see what other cities are doing in how they manage their programs and of course EV Bikes are a problem and other cities have got their own policies. And so instead of recreating the wheel, we could easily reach out to others that have successful policies in place. And again just tremendous amount of great speakers and then the interaction that you have with not only other council members around the state but the vendors and some of the products out there in the community for cities.
Each of us many of us sat on the committee and commissions interviews On 928, and so we'll be making a decision on some of those candidates that are applying for committees and commissions. We'll hear from that later this evening. And as Council Member Cornejo said, we attended basically a follow-up meeting to the Santa Paula Hospital and it was put on by Latino Town Hall. Those of you know, Council Member Conejo and I were on the Blue Ribbon Committee for quite a while. And it was always driven by the county so the information we got was information that was kind of leading us this path that we saw coming. That there was a lot of promises made, I won't say promises but things that were planned and they, there's things that came up that were beyond the county's control but then when it eventually happened that we're left with three options for the county how to make a decision.
Now it's time for the people of this valley to gather together and basically join forces. So we had council members from Fillmore, Santa Paula and throughout the county or the valley. And also we had city manager, the assistant to city manager and James Mason that were there to supply input. But the biggest thing that is gonna come from this is we're gonna have weekly meetings now to strategize where we go, how we put pressure on the county and any outside resources including going to our elected officials statewide for direction or guidance and support.
Again, thank you for Director Barnes for opening the cooling center. I don't know how many people you had but it's certainly nice to have a place where people can go that don't have AC. We did have two major water breaks on Ojai Road and they were within 100 feet above each other but that kind of shows our infrastructure is old and the streets paved over it so again they had to tear through the repaved Ojai Road Highway 150 to repair it but our staff was able to repair them within several hours I think by 6 p.m. each night they repaired the brakes, so again thank you to our staff and I think that's all I have now we move on to the city manager's report.
Thank
you Mr. Mayor, members of the council. It's a pleasure being with most of you down in Anaheim for the League Conference and as the mayor pointed out there's lots to learn. I too was in the EV bike session and the one on AI and couple of others economic development whatnot Also at the library's leadership award of Laura Phillips was part of the two-by-two meeting with the school district and It was a pleasure going to the hundred year anniversary celebration of Isabel And also participating today in the discussions about the hospital, and I will point out The City of Fillmore recently appointed two council members to serve on an ad hoc, to be part of this essentially task force or coalition.
Currently our two council members have been participating Fillmore is going to be adopting a resolution with the policy statement similar to what we did about two years ago. However, we're going to get a copy of that to see if it's a little more current now that the knowledge is at the hospital is looking to close so to the extent that it is, we might look to bring that back to the council based on input from our committee members And I had an opportunity on Friday to host for a couple of hours and talk about Santa Paula with a group of the Ventura County Leadership Academy, part of the cohort that was studying Santa Paula.
It was a pleasure to do that. I joined them right after they had a tour of Lima Nera and then was here on Friday which also happened to be our cruise night And so the last one of the year, so it was a true introduction to all the flavors of Santa Paula on a Friday afternoon and evening. And especially for Mr. Wagner who spoke earlier I just wanna kind of public service announcement That for the public that is always hoping to get information from the city, there's an opportunity in our website to stay connected by signing up for notifications and also for our monthly newsletter. And so I would just encourage the public that wants to stay connected to do that they can put in their email address and select what it is they want to be notified for.
So they don't have to get peppered with all sorts of things but maybe they want to get Planning Commission agendas or be noticed of any special meetings or workshops, that sort of thing. So we just encourage the public to do that and that concludes my report.
Any questions for Mr. Singer from Council?
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Can you introduce our new interim attorney? I think we kind of, this is his first official because he missed the last
one. I think that would be quite appropriate and my apologies for not doing that. The council had an opportunity a month ago to Appoint Mr. Martz as the new interim city attorney. The title interim doesn't mean that he doesn't have the full authorities and expectations of the job, just that the council obviously wants the opportunity to evaluate how he does over the next year.
And then take it from there. Kellen has served our city on a couple of projects in the past and has already proven an asset this last month, but yes welcome to him. Thank you.
Anyone else? I did want to ask Mr. Singer just if you can give us a brief update. I get asked all the time, I'm sure other council members about The curbs, ADA curb compliance up Ojai Road and also Ojai Road.
Yes so the Highway 150 project which is largely a Caltrans project got started a year ago I'm kind of looking over at our city engineer but I think it was at least a year ago And for a variety of reasons has been stalled. It remains stalled and I believe, accurate in saying that they've now determined that they will pick it back up and conclude the work including those final 3 or 4 ADA curb ramps.
The changing of the signals because there's going to be new signals at three intersections and then eventually the paving And striping, which is what we're all waiting for. And it looks to me like that's not going to pick back up till March now. Is that correct? So very frustrating. I am going to work with the council's liaison to the Transportation Commission and to Caltrans Her connections on SCAG, our vice mayor because I think it's high time that we write a very firm letter to them about expectations.
The challenge that we now face is you have temporary striping that's completely faded and posing I think safety concerns. On the positive side We have a cooperative agreement coming to you before the end of the year with Caltrans because they have agreed to also help us to realize the three lighted crosswalks over the highway. The nice thing is that will now be done before they pave and so we'll, at least the conduit and stuff will be laid even if the signals aren't active.
While it's a frustration that we all share At least once this project is completed. It'll it'll be truly a new asset to the community All right,
thank you for that. Mr. Singer good one more question
Any update on Park and Orchard where we're at with that?
so Bob do you want to give a more detailed update than I can give
Absolutely, the Park and Orchard project is currently completing water system connections essentially. So the apparent work on the project has quieted a little bit as the contractor is doing essentially water connections within the streets then we'll have curb ramp work and sidewalk continue on and then paving shortly thereafter which is really what everybody's waiting for So they're moving a little slow through some of the work just due to coordination, working with the community trying to maintain access.
But a lot of the big work is done and we're looking forward to some paving getting done hopefully pretty soon.
All right thank you Mr. Woodward. Moving on to number consent calendar number nine Background information has been provided to the City Council on all matters listed under the Consent Calendar and these items are considered to be routine by the City Council and are normally approved by one motion. If discussion is requested by a council member on any item or a member of the public wishes to comment on an item, that item may be removed from the Consent Calendar for separate action. Do we have any public comments on any of the Consent Calendar items?
All right. Thank you very much. Okay, is there any council member that would like to question or pull an item from the consent calendar?
I have questions on 9G and then I don't know what y'all need to do with 9F because I know that there's a red line version of 9F
so... Mr. Mayor, staff was going to ask that the Council pull 9F.
So I will pull both then, 9F and 9G.
Alright, so...
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9C. Alright, so vice mayor Crosser wants to pull nine F And then N9G and Council Member Chavez wants to pull 9C. Is there a motion to accept the remainder of the consent calendar?
I would move approval for the remainder of the consent calendar. Second.
Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Jenny Crosswhite · Seconded by Leslie Cornejo
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So I'm pulling C because I think this is a yet another opportunity where we have to make sure the public knows what's happening because this is something that we've talked a lot about And so I wanted to give an opportunity to our city manager to kind of guide us a little bit through what this looks like and how exciting it is to get to a point where we We'll have a plan so then we can find the resources to then work on all those streets or sidewalks because I know that a lot of residents have brought this issue up continuously. So could you, would you mind kind of giving us an overview of it?
Yeah and I'll actually invite Mr. Woodward since he'll be overseeing and did the RFP and can talk a little bit about this particular firm that we're gonna work with because we are really excited about the scope of what they'll be doing and how that will create a guideline for us a true master plan moving forward. And I'll just point out in case Mr. Woodward forgets to that the measure, our funds have allowed us to double our sidewalk maintenance costs so the anticipation is after this study is done we will have funding to be able to recognize some of the improvements that will become needed
We'll be able to double the amount of sidewalk repairs we can do, not the costs of the repairs.
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Good point. Mr. Woodward, you want to say a little bit about this contract? Sure.
The, uh, the contract is really what we've been hoping for, for some time as we've been looking at a kind of a comprehensive approach to what's really been up till now, um, a plan that basically repairs sidewalks as we move along with our pavement program every year all well and good. We handle curb ramps, sidewalks, any adjacent accessibility mobility issues But having a comprehensive plan allows us to address gaps in the system, to address specific safety areas, to prioritize areas that may not be coincident with areas of pavement management work. That's really important as we often have areas that were are severely in need of attention. We have sidewalks that date along with our streets in excess of 100 years old, and really they were designed and constructed at a time when mobility and accessibility was really not on people's radar screens.
So we're excited about this. It'll allow us to take existing lists of areas of deficiency that JPIA's people have identified as well as integrate work we've done As well as work with the community, where we've had a lot of requests of Traffic Safety Committee and other requests. Where you may have gaps in our sidewalk plan to address safe routes to school, to address accessibility in a much more holistic way. And engage the community here what they have to say. Engage the schools and identify areas where we really need attention that may not be standing out right now. So we like having that ability to engage the public, gather information from them, compile areas of issue and then prioritize areas of work.
That allows us then to price out, map out and coordinate the work that we're going to be doing utilizing additional measure our funds and do it in a smart economically effective way that will also has buy-in from the community We like this consultant in particular because they have experience with active transportation, with safe routes to school, with mobility studies, multimodal studies. It's much more than just doing sidewalk it's a holistic approach to this so we like General Technologies and Solutions because they brought all of this to the table. They're already one of our on-call consultants We're working with them, they're doing our traffic signal project at Harvard, Peck and Maine. So we've got some experience with them, we're real happy with their capabilities so we're looking forward to working with them on this project.
And you mentioned JPIA because of that would reduce our liability right in terms of claims for people tripping over sidewalks? Um, would it be similar of having a rating of sorts for the sidewalks that we can kind of then triage?
Precisely. We've had in our old sidewalk program kind of a rating system that was informally used This will take that rating system and define it a little bit more utilizing mobility and accessibility as well as like safe routes to school, uh, to kind of help prioritize even a little bit more than we would have had in our previous matrices. So we'll have that built into it and that'll allow us to prioritize areas where we need work that may not be coincident with pavement management areas.
And then just for, there's some streets that are buckling because of our trees and our roots. How do we collaborate with our tree inventory to make sure that if something needs to be removed that it can be replaced? Is that going to be some sort of coordination?
You know, we currently do coordinate pretty actively with our tree people with Jerry Garcia who's our consulting arborist and we generally take a pretty accommodating approach. We have some just gorgeous mature trees and often there's measures that we can ramp over the tree roots go around them but try to accommodate the benefits of the trees that are in our right-of-way but also maintain accessibility too which is super important
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I just want to say that I'm really excited about this. This is something that we have been talking about for quite some time and so on. I can't wait until we have the final plan and we can start implementing it because I know that having the plan for the streets has really helped us to accelerate the implementation of that. And so, I'm excited to have a really good plan for our sidewalks so we can start seeing some good progress on that as well.
Anyone else? Mr. Woodward, to your knowledge when was the last time if we ever had a sidewalk management plan?
We had a sidewalk management approach is what I would call it. There was a process by which people would call in, the department would receive questions, complaints, concerns which they would investigate every year. I think we had about $50,000 that we'd apply to these select sidewalk sections. It was a priority rating system that was used But it was not really what I would call a master plan It was just a prioritized approach to utilizing the limited budget that we had available to us So it's was not quite as thoughtful as what we were looking forward to doing now
Thank you. We move forward Any other questions? All right, and entertain a motion on 9c
motion to approve item 9c all second. I
All right, moved and seconded by Council Member Charlotte and seconded by Vice Mayor Crosswhite. All in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, item passes. We'll now go on to Item 9F which was pulled by Council Member Crosswhite. This is on Transportation Development Act Local Transportation Fund apportionment for fiscal year 26-27.
Thank you. I was sitting down but I wanted to stand up because this is very exciting news You'll recall when we did our budget that we knew that gas tax expenses were exceeding gas tax revenues by a lot, $500,000. We weren't too worried about it the first year because we had an existing fund balance. We knew that there was going to be some staffing shortages and maybe some salary savings and a couple of other things that we weren't going to be able to get to.
And sure enough, we ended the year short $437. Just made the cut of having enough money for last year. We were not in that position for this year. We told you we were going to come back to you with a solution and we've been trying to get that solution since that budget closed, and we have that solution for you today. I want to give a huge kudos to Ruth Juanes, Senior Administrative Analyst in the Public Works Department when I called her Because it would be unwise of me for me to come to you with TDA money, a TDA staff report saying we have an extra $700,000. But also let's not forget we have $500,000 that were short when this money is specific for the needs of street repair and maintenance So I'm not the expert so I called Ruth and I said I think this is an opportunity to solve that problem, but I don't know the rules.
And she said no problem let me start looking at the manuals. Let me start looking at the guidelines. She reached out to VCTC huge kudos to VCTC who immediately responded who immediately started reaching out to their folks to say is there limitations? Can you spend this money? It's the exact use of what this money is for. It's for street repairs, it's for potholes. The majority of what we're requesting to be funded is the salaries for these folks. So that's a little bit of the background. Let me get into the specifics. Number one, we were in a two-year budget.
When we did this budget two years ago, we had estimates for year one but we did not have them for year two. We now have the amounts for year two and what we have found is that One, we had an increased allocation from BCTC from the LTF fronts more than what we budgeted. But two, what we expected to spend $900,000 last year is what we spent more than $900,000. This year we're only going to spend $600,000 because they had a carryover of 300,000 from last year.
So that's extra money that we now have available. Plus, we had a fund balance. So what we're coming to you with is a recommendation to number one, increase the revenue that we're going to receive by $415,000 compared to what we budgeted. But number two, use $543,000 to transfer to gas tax and obviously to receive into gas tax Plus there's still more money for an additional $183,000 for the slurry seal CIP program.
So this is nothing but good news. This is approved by VCTC for the purposes of it. This doesn't mean that we're going to...this is going to be the answer long term. Next year we might not have that $300,000 credit You'll remember the VCTC invoices for Valley Express in the past. We're paying $130,000 for our match but one dollar for the actual invoice because we would have carryovers and the costs were five hundred thousand dollars a couple years ago that cost significantly increased We in the future could explore having Measure R pay for some of the salaries of some of the street workers, street maintenance crew.
We'll be looking at that very closely in the next budget cycle where we will not be going into it with a negative expected but for this year this solves this problem and we're very excited to be comfortably going into this budget cycle with a fully funded street repair, plus an extra $183,000 for the slurry seal program. Questions?
Questions for Director Romero? No,
just it's always good when there's good news.
And that's just what I was going to say is I'm glad it's polled so everybody knows the good news. Yes.
You know, I like hearing the story of how employees step up and go the extra mile and solve problems and so can we make sure there's some recognition of some sort for Ruth
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And you know the quick action of picking up the phone and getting the answers is crucial.
Well, kudos to Ms. Ramirez as well for having the idea to call Ruth and
ask. We couldn't come to you with our first quarter saying we still don't have the answer that just wasn't acceptable so...
All right congratulations everyone for a fine work. Any other questions? Okay so since this item was pulled there is an amendment somebody would like to make them on a motion on I
would move approval of item 9F as amended.
Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Jenny Crosswhite · Seconded by Pedro Chavez
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Thank you Mayor, good evening Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council and our viewing audience. First I just want to introduce tonight an Account Executive from Enterprise Mobility Alec Arapadian he's here with me tonight to answer any questions that are beyond my scope of knowledge in regards to vehicle replacement programs But tonight I'm excited to present this program to the council and a staff member recommending that the council consent to enter an agreement with the Master Equity Lease Agreement, an agreement to sell customer vehicles and auction consignment agreement as well.
With the purchasing program pursuant to our Santa Paula Municipal Code 41.11 With Sourcewell, we have an adjusted one-year vehicle replacement plan that is not to exceed $87,485.36. Also asking for the council to authorize a city manager to execute the agreements and any related documents incidental to the agreements subject to the approval of our city attorney.
Just a little bit of background on this in January of this year The Police Department along with Public Works began discussion with Enterprise Fleet Management staff to evaluate our situation with our vehicle fleet, specifically over the entire fleet for all the city services. And then I also looked further into a vehicle replacement program that will be suitable for the police department Enterprise has been in this business with this fleet program for over 69 years. And they have agreements with several cities here in Southern California and up and down the state, so I'm happy to introduce this program.
As it stands now we currently are budgeted to replace one vehicle per year. And due to the aging status of our fleet, we have an average age of 11.5 years on our vehicles. An average odometer reading about 72,573 miles. Our holding period which is the rate it would take in years to refresh the fleet given the current rate is approximately 44 years per vehicle so as you can see we are in a very slow process our mileage going up our vehicle repair costs are going up And so we're looking at a equitable program that will give us a transition to bring newer vehicles to our fleet in a shorter period of time, lower the mileage, increase our resale value which will in turn create additional funding for us to help fund additional vehicles as the years progress in this program.
As it stands now under this proposal, we would like to replace four vehicles that are 10 years or older with the estimated budget that I've outlined today for $87,485.36. We anticipate the estimated equity of the resale value of those vehicles to be around $12,000. In the staff report, the vehicles identified for replacement are listed. We have two patrol vehicles, two Dodge Chargers and we have two unmarked vehicles that are also Dodge Chargers and the mileage on those vehicles just so you're aware The first one is 142,000 miles. The next one for replacement is 122,00 miles. The third one has 158,000 miles and the fourth one for replacement has 146,000 miles. So as you can see our need for reduced cost in our fleet maintenance is necessary and we can do that with implementation of this program.
I'm here to answer any questions that you may have. Mr. Arapadian also has a brief presentation and a chart showing the cycle and the years of our subsequent payments in addition to this first year, and also answer questions about the term of the contract as far as what that looks like, and the opportunity for us to reduce our costs every year in paying for Vehicle program and bring new vehicles here as it stands right now We have already purchased a hybrid vehicle at the end of last fiscal year for a black-and-white Hybrid vehicle that vehicle we have and it's going to be upfitted shortly with this program initially here upon approval and Contract agreement, we will get two new black and whites and also two unmarked detective vehicles to replace those four vehicles I have discussed this evening So I will answer any questions and also if anybody would like to see the presentation, there's a couple of slides that reflect how this program is going to go in the next six year period.
Thank you Chief. Would you like to ask questions or see the presentation first Vice Mayor?
I mean if they have a presentation I can watch the presentation first. Okay. If that answers any of my questions. Sure
absolutely. Thank You Alec. So I'll pass it off to Alec for his presentation and then we'll return for questions. Thanks, Alec. Thank you, Chief.
A quick introduction to myself. Thank you for having me tonight, Council Members, Mayor and Vice-Mayor. My name is Alec. I've been with Enterprise now seven years, four years originally on the rental side of the division and now into our fleet management division. We work with numerous municipalities nationwide here local in Southern California essentially assisting with their vehicle operation acquisition of the vehicles all the way through to disposal and vehicle resale.
I'll go ahead and kick off the presentation today. First slide is just showing a little bit of our local partnership and clients that we're working with here locally in Southern California. Also, as you see on the bottom, we partnered with Sourcewell. We were awarded RFP three times over. Most recently in May, we were voted number one in fleet-related services.
This is a quick snapshot of your guys' vehicle situation for the entirety of the fleet, all 88 vehicles. Although today we're focusing on mostly the PD vehicle side, there's considerations on here that you guys can look at as we go through but it's just shortening vehicle life cycle, bringing down your guys' overall maintenance spend year after year And leveraging our open-ended equity leasing model to help with cash deficiencies of the city, to do more with the same amount of budgets you guys do have year after year.
Here is our will of service. So this is everything that Enterprise offers start to finish through conversations with Christy Ramirez, Chief and Dale Goodwin, Public Works Director. We've identified to kick off the partnership we're going to look on the acquisition side, the aftermarket vehicle customization which is the upfitting of police vehicles and the vehicle resale. Any one of these other programs can be added on at any time. Everything is a la carte through the Enterprise program.
This is an example of what our open ended leasing model is. I'm sure you guys are familiar with traditional dealership leases, this is not the same as that. This is almost similar to a dealership finance how this comes into play is allowing you guys traditionally to go from a cash outlay model where you guys pay for vehicles up front to spread out your costs within a couple years to go ahead and allow you to do more with the same allocated funds year after year.
This is essentially our effective vehicle life cycle. Essentially what we're looking at are three main buckets within your fleet operation, your depreciation of vehicles, your fuel spend and your maintenance spend. We try to identify on a per-vehicle basis when the optimal time is for that vehicle to be purchased and disposed of within your fleet operation. Currently today the city is on the right side of that dotted line Where a lot of vehicles are outdated when it comes to those three main factors. We'll put together a plan in which we already started, to move you guys closer to the left side of this graph where vehicles will be in and out of your fleet at the right time.
This is a current fleet profile. This is for the entirety of the city, 88 vehicles as you see on the right side where it says average holding period. A little bit of snapshot of what goes into that number at 26 vehicles for PD it's 44, so a little bit different. But how that number comes to be is there's 88 vehicles in the fleet divided by your annual acquisitions brings your holding period to about 26 years on average the entire city has their vehicles age about 14 years or 13.7 This is some key observations in terms of overall safety features within the city's fleet. On the right side here it says Key Observations, where you see 27 vehicles for the entirety of the city out predate standard anti-brake standardization so 31% of your fleet.
51% of the fleet predates electric stability control 63% of it predates rear automatic braking, and then 73% of the fleet predates the standardization of backup cameras. On the left side of the graph is actually more statistics into how the integration of different safety features have improved in terms of overall accidents nationwide. This is a snapshot Of looking at a 10-year outlook. This is again for looking at the majority of the city, not necessarily the PD vehicles. A plan looking at what you guys are spending today and overall net savings.
A lot going on on this page here but essentially that top line highlighted in yellow just breaks down. We looked at just light duty fleet so not including any of the heavy aftermarket vehicles there was 46 vehicles that we looked at 4 annual acquisitions a year so 3.8 you guys own 46 purchase. Cash at a 156,000 all the way through to your your maintenance spent 57,000 fuel spent 86 your total fleet budget roughly for these 46 vehicles alone is about $300,000 through the enterprise program the number underneath we've identified as 230,000 to utilize the leasing model All the way through to the end where you see a 10-year savings about $264,000. This is looking at just an entirety of the fleet. Today's program is going to be focused on the four vehicles that we've looked at for the operation on the PD side.
So what we'll look at is year one. We've identified the four vehicles we're going to replace. The equity within those four vehicles, so it was about $12,400 broken down to $3100 per vehicle That's what's going to be the sum of all the payments for these lease agreement for the entirety What goes into that down payment number is the aftermarket for the upfitted vehicles, for the black and whites, is $30,000. Dividing it in half, Enterprise takes half of that upfront as its down payment for just the PD vehicles, breaking that down into $35,000 for the two of those and then $5,000 divided by 2 for the undercovers.
Your down payment tax initial licensing fees comes out to $88,525.64 That's what you see in year one. Year two, you'll see now that it's only $46,358 because there will be no down payment as we've already accomplished that in first year. So then that will stay standard over the next five years at $46358.64. And then what we'll jump down to is year six. So this is the plan, we're looking at a five-year replacement cycle for these vehicles so in year six will at this point go ahead and replace these initial four vehicles that we acquired.
The gain of the resale on these vehicles is going to be $55,000. So you see a sharp delta in what these vehicles are worth today as Chief mentioned all of them have about 120,000 plus miles These vehicles will be in the right time of replacement five years, could be somewhere in the 60 to 70,000 mile range. And without being that'll bring back more equity within your fleet operation so at 55,000 so now it's $13,000.
per vehicle that we can take from the sale, apply to the purchase of a new vehicle. So at this point you guys will have no out-of-pocket requirements when it comes to acquiring these new vehicles through Enterprise. The vehicles will self fund themselves and at that point you guys would just be paying that $51,302 which is for licensing fees along with your new lease payment and then that'll stay true at $43,000 over the next five years into year 10 And on the right side, it just says exact totals which you'd expect to pay on these four vehicles.
Acquiring holding for five years and replacing again at that time. And then this is just more information regarding some of the technology account management. When you guys come on board with the enterprise partnership, the city will be given an account manager through the enterprise team that'll be your guy's dedicated account rep to put together analysis like this year after year analyzing the fleet of vehicles for the city.
And this is just a couple of our references for current partners and who we work with along with references. And this is going to be our onboarding process through enterprise. What do we expect? Partnership begins, and then we have an implementation meeting months two through eight. We'll have a post-implementation month nine. We'll begin planning again for the next year along with a client review where we begin that process.
OK. That's all I got, guys.
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All right.
Thank
you for
listening.
My pleasure. You're up. So that was helpful. Yes, but I still have a couple of questions so let me start with a high level question as the state starts requiring transition to zero emission vehicles how will that factor into this?
Yes, so we actually work with a lot of our municipal partners. This was a lot more prominent couple years ago as it was a strong initiative. It eased back a little bit but still continuing that process. We take an account and see which vehicles can be electrified year after year. So when it comes to vehicle acquisitions we put you guys in the place where you can start acquiring vehicles in that space.
A big conversation standpoint is a lot of vehicles that are Three quarter ton or above don't have EV options in the market today. So we stay close to that with our, the manufacturers, Fords, the GMs and figure out what strategies are they coming up with? Right now for specific vehicle classes, we've tried to file some exemptions with our cities to help them file those in the process of some of our other partners have taken. And so right now, then the thought For specific vehicles for those 3 quarter tons and above as soon as possible to looking at which vehicles should be those exemptions already been done for a week connect with some of our partners have already done so and we can really that message back to you and seeing what vehicles you guys just start looking at in terms of those exceptions.
And so then right now what we're talking about are 4 vehicles,
yes
is that I'm looking at the chief. Is that the plan is to sort of pilot those four vehicles? Or are we going to be having another conversation in a year or two, or what is your vision on how this looks beyond these four vehicles?
So the vision beyond these 4 vehicles as we move forward to affordability. Lower the maintenance and then get into the next cycle which be the next for vehicles in your 6, so we're looking at continuing for now over the next span of this next several years and then doing another foreign year 6.
So you're 6 isn't a replacement of the first 4. I guess that's what I was so it's what What's included in that year six cost? Because I guess when I heard the presentation, I thought that was the replacement of the first four vehicles.
So this first fourth in year one will be replacing the first four vehicles that we listed in the staff report. Then in the next cycle which would be year six as the example on the screen would be another four vehicles for replacement.
I can help a little bit on this one. So the first four vehicles that you see, yes in year six those same vehicles will be replaced every year we will sit down with Public Works PD and identify additional replacements based on your funding and what you guys have available that can be replaced Through the program.
Okay, so right now we're just sort of looking at like let's pilot these and then we would see whether or not At some point in the future you would add more into the replacement program if they were really liking
yes So every year from February to March As you guys begin your your budget planning for this next fiscal year you guys are on a two-year budget cycle so this year Identifying the forecast for the next two years. We'll identify which vehicles we see that should be replaced, come up with a plan with departments and figure out based on fundability what can be replaced and at that point we would come back at whichever point when the City Council mix probably at the end of next year to figure out is this a feasible option. Okay
because part of what I was confused about was in The actual lease document we have here. It didn't say and this is for 5 years or 4 years or it says it gets renewed on a yearly basis. And then there was the language in their around. And that we would be responsible for any losses due to early termination of greater of At which you would potentially be charged for an early termination would be.
Yes, so there is no term restrictions for how long the partnership is. Essentially let's say we're year one in and the city identifies that the enterprise partnership is not working at that point you guys were just pay the leases through or if you have the cash and want to pay them off you can. So the leases are open-ended so you can terminate or keep going with a partnership At any given time at that point, it's just if you don't have the funding is just paying the vehicle until it's essentially paid off. So there's no like terms and contracts here locked in for 5 years 10 years or anything like that. But we'd still be on the hook for paying
for it.
Yeah, it was essentially as if you weren't just bought a vehicle from a dealership and finance it almost at that point be the same idea. You're just with enterprise into people's paid off.
Okay? And then, Chief, do we know what our average – I mean based on the vehicles? I think I can figure that out. But I just want to – do we know what our average mileage is for a police vehicle?
Oh, average annual mileage? So it's funny that you mentioned that and I'm glad you brought it up because when we first talked about this in trying to figure out how many miles are police – the black and white vehicles are consuming every year And you know we first started thinking about 12,000 and that really is probably not accurate so we actually elevated that to over 15. We're using about 15,000 miles per black-and-white and those cars you know they're left in idling position for a long time on traffic stops.
Not necessarily traveling long routes other than to the jail and back. So you're looking at about 15, 000 on average on a black-and-white.
Because that was part of what I was trying to figure out is because there's language in here about average wear and tear versus abnormal or excessive wear and tear. And so, I was just trying to understand because I know that police vehicles get driven a little bit more they get a little more wear and tear than just someone putzing around town going to the grocery store and you know occasionally outside of town. So I was just trying to make sure how this works in other cities that do this. I mean, other cities do it so they feel better but just trying to understand how that works.
Yeah, so as you acquire vehicles through Enterprise, it's the city's vehicles and you own them. So when it comes to wear and tear clauses or miles restrictions enterprise doesn't have any of those. When we put in and talk about mileage, only thing that's really impacted is what that vehicle's resale value is going to be on the end. A lot of our vehicle resale numbers that would give you that $55,000 up there That's based off of poor to fair condition. A lot of our clients are municipalities that have PD vehicles or even commercial clients that are driving 40,000 miles a year and the only thing that's truly impacted is what the resale number would be when we go to dispose of it for you. Enterprise doesn't take a proceed of that number. If we charge a flat fee, it's $400 to pick up the vehicle and sell it for the city but we don't take any type of gains back so there's really no wear and tear or miles restrictions on these vehicles.
It's the cities to drive and own as you normally would paying cash for
it. Did I hear you say they do come as a black-and-white? Or is that an alteration that we have to make in addition So
with the programs of these vehicles, the aftermarket upfitting is already included into your price. So we went ahead and I worked with Chief. He sent the previous specs that you guys have done for your upfitting. I sent it over to some of our aftermarket vendors and found the pricing that we chart with some of our other clients, and put that into your guys' lease payment. So you guys will actually spread that out within five years instead of having to pay for it all at once. And when the vehicle arrives, it arrives already upfitted so there's no wait time or delay for when it gets here and then having to go get upfitted later.
Okay, so this alterations clause then in the contract is for alterations beyond the way that they come? Because I was like, are we because there was something in there about like if they're if we were making alterations you must do so with the consent of enterprise and. And so I was trying to understand because it wasn't clear that they come over like there wasn't a picture that said and this is what it comes looking like.
Yes, it'll come with as many alterations as you guys would foresee meeting on it any additional happens, as long as it's within legal rights of driving and having that vehicle. It can be done, it's just anything outside of the realm of being a legal modification would be the difference on there but they would come as tailored to what you guys need as the city for each vehicle specifically.
Okay and then in terms worst case scenario there's a catastrophic loss how does that work?
The city would as you would today in terms of your insurance process. That's what I thought, but it would be the exact same
way. But then it says that we pay so if for some reason insurance didn't pay within 30 days to pay it off, we would pay it off and then get reimbursed from On these is it an annual payment is that a monthly payment.
It's a it's a monthly payment for these vehicles you guys can do a prepaid for if you guys have the funding available but the what the lease the option and makes it so it just more of a monthly and free up cash flow within the city and just do more with the budget. If you guys have it, and you guys want to pay your all front you can do so for the year payment but it's really flexible and how you guys as a city like to go about the payments
Okay. So like when it talks about if that's not paid within 20 days of the due date, there's an 18% premium?
That's based off of the monthly. So if you're doing the monthly option, the statement would be sent to you and then after you have the monthly statement, 20 days after, the payment would be required.
Okay so we just got to make sure that I was going to ask the finance department if that is reasonable but they are not here anymore so you can just pass along that information just to make sure that they know. And then I think my other question, since this is a new process. My other question was when it talks about the vehicle being sold, what is your process for doing that? Because we carry insurance on it until the title is transferred. Do you make sure that the title gets transferred or how does, how do you, because I know when you do a private sale then someone can like drive off and be like wait, you didn't transfer the title so do you make Are you, do you make sure that that gets transferred? Yes. So
before we ever pick up the vehicle to take it to be sold, we make sure all the paperwork is done upfront and then we handle all the paperwork of actually getting the vehicles sold whether it be for some vehicles need to go through the auctions like they currently have enterprise also has our private cell channels that a lot of our municipalities utilize through our source well contract to essentially sell these vehicles on your behalf as well. Okay.
Thank
you.
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Questions from other council members? A couple questions. Has Ms. Ramirez reviewed and analyzed the contracts on the estimations?
I know that she was part of a number of meetings with Enterprise and with the chief, I don't...and of course reviewed the staff report but I don' know if she's looked closely like at the lease terms or that sort of thing.
And has the city attorney looked at the agreement?
Yes, both Monica and I
did. You currently said recently that we have a budget to replace one vehicle a year, correct? It was said in the report.
That was the previous budget allocation was to replace one vehicle per
year. Just to be clear, that's just within the police
department. Yeah, we're just talking about police right now for instance. What is the cost of one vehicle?
The one we just purchased at the end of June was $65,000. That was a straight purchase of our hybrid vehicle for the black and white patrol car.
And based on the four that we purchased before it looks like they were between 12 and 14 years of a lifespan which averaged about 10,000 or 11,000 miles a month? Would you say that that would be
accurate? Probably a little more than that yes
but... In terms of the budget Where the funds come from to pay for vehicles. What kind of fund is that?
We have a vehicle replacement fund, but it's really there when we need to rely on it so in our two-year budget process we allow departments and work with our fleet division to identify some of the older vehicles that are ready for replacement and that's part of the budget that we bring you Occasionally as in the two year budget we're in now, the requests that are given to me exceed what we support.
So it's not unusual for let's say the streets division to say we need two new trucks and we end up giving them one. You know I don't mean to pick on them but you know generally That's the case. We have a habit of stretching the life of our vehicles well beyond what's really recommended, both from a safety perspective but also just the cost of maintenance. As you saw in that chart, maintenance costs just tend to go up.
Can you share a little bit about what that maintenance cost normally looks like? You know, it goes at what point do we start seeing that we're spending More than what they're worth. Yeah,
I mean, I'd be happy to ask Public Works in the fleet division maybe to To provide that, I would only be speculating.
I mean, I just want to talk about the police department in this case because that's what the pilot would be, right? And so if I add $65,000 for each cost of the vehicle times the four vehicles, right? We come up to $260,000. What is a total cost and I think there was a chart that showed what the total cost was under this agreement. This
slide?
Yeah. So if we add year one, year two, year three, year four, year five, right? At year six, we're basically going to get new vehicles?
Yes sir.
Okay. Do you have the total for the first five years? I just want to do a comparison. So let's do $88,000... Plus 646... About 330.
Is that what you got? I think about 330,000. Does that sound right?
So comparing for the first 5 years we're basically going to be paying more, right? $70,000 more compared apples to apples, right? So the first 5 years if we buy the vehicles on our own it's 260 but under this contract The same amount, we would pay actually more. We would pay $330,000. What we're getting in return is the fact that we're going to be getting replacement vehicles every five years
or sooner. There's a possibility we could get them sooner and in addition to this whole schedule I've had a chance to evaluate numerous vehicles we have that we are not using because they're so old and have so much mileage that this program is going to help us clear out those vehicles. Have some gains from those vehicles that will be put into our fund to Potentially get a another vehicle earlier than the five years or two year six So it's it's not just the vehicles we have to rotate out. It's not one vehicle for one vehicle and It's the number of vehicles we have at the fleet yard, in our yard here at the police department and also on Palm that we need to get. We need to handle those vehicles and get them moved out and get what we can for them at this point which is going to help the program.
How many vehicles are we talking about that need to be discontinued or taken off?
From the lots that I've been out?
I mean, I see them every time I come
here. Yeah. I would say there's at least ten vehicles.
At least ten?
At least ten. And of course those fleet gets approval from council when they are ready to part with the vehicles and so there's at least five that have been approved by council and there's another set that we're going to have to get approved through fleet to
get those moved. We own them. We own the vehicles themselves right?
Yes
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I would also just point out the ancillary benefit of trying to get newer vehicles is better mileage, higher safety features, just modernization as you know. And if we were to go with just the purchasing, we'd really over that period of time only be able to do probably one per year because we don't have just the added cash to front load it.
That's where the benefit would be.
Yeah, so it does commit us to a higher overall cost but it smooths that out and then has those other ancillary benefits being realized immediately.
Plus the savings in maintenance because we're modernizing the fleet. And the savings in gas mileage?
And then the last thing that is not calculated in is the vehicle disposal at five years and the money that comes back to the city. At the equity standpoint, just looking up there for the four vehicles we're looking at today is at $12,400. At year six it's almost four times at $55,000. Because they're newer vehicles? Yes sir and that's where the process of almost sustainability comes into play.
And sometimes when you have a new vehicle it comes with all the safety features. Sometimes your insurance gets you a break on insurance, right? But we're self-insured so that doesn't really make any difference however looking at our fleet and some of the non features that they have that make it less a less safe vehicle I think just adding the safety to all the people that are driving vehicles is a plus. I don't know what cost you but
The only other point I would like to make is on the chart above in year one it says the cost is $88,525.64. That is different than what is mentioned in the staff report and I'll explain why. Just very recently the schedule on unmarked vehicles increased slightly so it went from our Plan not to exceed $87,485.36 went up $1,040.28 to $88,525.64 which is on that chart. However, so I'm asking for that modification tonight to be accepted and however the gains in the other vehicles we're going to get sales and equity for will really have a null impact on that increase in that number. Alec, is that correct?
Yes, so that 88,000 doesn't actually include that 12,000 once we apply it. So once we apply that 12, 000, that number will actually be down to 76. Yeah. So that's not actually included. When everything was put together, we weren't aware of being able to include that, so we held off on it. But that number should come down as
well. You had mentioned something about these programs that you have, the wheel. There was a maintenance thing. What does that entail for our vehicles? Does that mean you're going to maintain them?
So is it an option in a service that Enterprise can provide with the city having internal maintenance processes and three maintenance technicians? For the time being, you have opted out of using that program. But we have programs with local vendors that we utilize through partnerships with the Enterprise Rent-A-Car that you guys upon opting in can utilize our network of shops through that as well.
And talk to me about the fuel programs.
So fuel program is a fuel card that we're partnered with is WEX, WEX cards. A lot of municipalities utilize that in regards to its free card you guys get and essentially just track all your fuel spend through one card platform as well.
And I mean we had an issue recently with Pacific Pride right? And we still do that we're not getting sales tax from that. Is this an alternative
option? It's not our local sales tax
yeah right
yeah
Is, would WEX be connected to Pacific Pride or?
Probably not. As we looked at the alternatives the, I forget what they're called but the contracts that these companies have third party contracts that allow you to have fuel cards are all in master sales tax agreements for other locations.
So we wouldn't be able to get any local sales tax just from filling up in our stations. Okay.
And Council Member Chavez, I appreciate the point. We are continuing even with this program we are still continuing with our own maintenance program with our fleet so there will be no change there.
Any other questions? It's a pilot. Thank you Alec for your presentation Chief thank you. Okay any other discussion or somebody want to entertain a motion to approve?
Second.
Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Pedro Chavez · Seconded by Leslie Cornejo
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Let's
go. Do we have any water
here?
Yeah, I can actually use one too. Thank you. Who else needs one? Right
here. Pedro,
do you need one? No, I got one. All right. Need some chocolate? That one's yours. Thank you very much. OK, we're going to move on to action items 10A. This is the second third amendments of the joint agreement for operational funding of the Spirit of Santa Paula Harvard Shelter and Second Amendment to the Operating Agreement with Spirit of Santa Paula. Gloria Parra, our management analyst. Welcome.
Thank you. Good evening, Mayor, Vice-Mayor and the City Council. I am here to present the second and third amendment to the funding agreement and the second amendment to the operating agreement with Spirit of Santa Paula who runs the Harvard Shelter which for background for those who don't know is a year round emergency shelter that provides temporary shelter services such as meals case management Housing navigation and related services to individuals and families experiencing homelessness in the Santa Clara River Valley.
In July 2023, City Council approved a two-year joint cost sharing agreement with the County of Ventura and the city of Fillmore. For the sake of discussion, I'll reference this agreement as the funding agreement The funding agreement has provided operational funding for fiscal years 23 through 25. And the parties also entered into a new funding agreement in October 2025 to cover fiscal year 25 through 26.
Under the funding agreement, the City of Santa Paula and SPIRIT entered the City of Santa Paula Operating Agreement with the Spirit of Santa Paula for the operation of the Harvard Shelter which also for discussion I'll call this the operating agreement. And to kind of differentiate the two, the funding agreement is a regional agreement between City of Santa Paula, City of Fillmore and the county.
It establishes how the shelter is funded and how much each agency contributes. to the operation of the shelter. Then the operating agreement is between the City of Santa Paula and Spirit, and it establishes the terms with which Spirit operates the shelter and delivers services, and the other two parties also agree with this operating agreement. Recently, in June 2026, the City Council approved the First Amendment. This First Amendment extended the funding agreement through the first extension covering the dates of June 30th, 2026 through October 1st, 2026.
This 90-day extension was in anticipation of a transition of shelter operations that was set to occur with Rescue Mission Alliance. However, this anticipated transition did not occur and as a result Spirit remains the shelter operator and continued funding is necessary to maintain Spirit's operation through the remaining of the fiscal year 26 through 27. And as a reminder of how the contributions between the three parties are laid out, amongst the three there is an annual contribution of up to $700,000 with the City of Santa Paula contributing $200,000, Fillmore contributing $150,000 and the county contributing $350,000 a year.
And so now bringing your attention to the second amendment to the funding agreement. The second amendment extends the funding agreement from October 2 through December 31, 2026 and it also includes the additional contributions that are proportionate to the typical $700,000 a year. So for this 90-day period or these three months, the City of Santa Paula would contribute 50,000, Fillmore 37,500 and the county 87,500.
And I would also like to note that Fillmore has brought this second amendment, the second extension period to their council in early September. Now the third amendment would then further extend and complete the fiscal year 26 through 27 from January 1st through June 30th, 2027. And the contributions from each party would go as follows. Santa Paula would cover 100,000, Fillmore 75,000 and the county 175,000 for a total of 350,000 for these six months.
And lastly, the second amendment to the operating agreement with Spirit simply incorporates these second and third extension periods and it aligns it with the funding agreement. The only thing that really changes are the dates that are covered in the operating agreement. It also should be noted that the City of Fillmore and County did not have a chance to complete the review at the time this staff report was written. So we have provided a handout that shows additional edits that are to be incorporated, that were provided from the County of Ventura and City of Fillmore within this past week.
Most of the edits are pretty minimal. There's some grammar edits For medical areas for some clarifying edits. Also to note the certain dates that may need to be changed depending on when all parties fully execute these documents and contribute their signatures and bring the amendments to either council or board of supervisors. And for that reason, we also ask the City Council to authorize the city manager with council from the city attorney to modify the final version of agreements if necessary providing such amendments don't have a material impact on the amount of funding or the terms of the agreement.
To sum up and to conclude, the staff recommends that the City Council approve the second and third amendments to the funding agreement. The second amendment to the operating agreement which would cover the period through June 30th, 2027 in order to maintain shelter operations and continue to provide services for up to 49 individuals per day. And also to approve the budget allocation of $150,000 for these two periods.
And staff are here and also Kay Wilson-Bolton is here from SPIRIT to answer any questions.
Thank you Gloria. Questions Council? Council Member
Conejo. Thank You Ms. Parra. When we're talking about approving the 150 that's already been budgeted for though is that correct? We're just approving the amendments cover What's already in our budget. This isn't additional funds. I just want clarification for that so
Yes, that is correct
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Questions from other council
Just for clarification GP one is us GP two is Fillmore and GP three the county
Those were all my edits. I don't know why it was formatted that way, but I just relayed the edits that I got from both county and Fillmore onto one concise document. Yes.
All right.
Any questions of Gloria Paula or of Kay Wilson? She's here as well. All right. Seeing none, I'll go ahead.
The part about authorizing city manager to go ahead and make any non-material changes, I have no problem with if that expedites the process. This has already been obviously a very long and tedious process to get to this point. And I also know that from originally working on this with the county that they're really sticklers about every little word too because I tried to change one or two words in one and it just didn't work out. So I understand that and from my part, I would feel comfortable authorizing the city manager to handle those changes.
And if I could just point out when we wrote the staff report because we knew were the first to go We weren't sure if Fillmore and County were gonna have changes. We now have those they're before you. We don't anticipate anything changing at this point However those bodies haven't finalized their reports and their actions before council so you never know.
And then the other thing that I would ask is not related exactly to this but last year or almost a year ago Miss Wilson Bolton gave us a very good and honest open report of kind of the state of spirit And I would ask, because that's not what we're looking at here. That maybe we work that into a future agenda to come back to us and let us know how the facility is doing since last year. And I know that there has been some changes that have been going on there too so we'd like to hear about that when you have time.
Thank you, appreciate that.
So just to clarify, all these amendments are going to lead to us continuing funding till June 30th of 2027 and during our budget review process which probably starts
about February-March
we'll be able to look at the next two years. Correct?
We will start the discussions with Spirit as well as the county and Fillmore probably in January
I had asked previously, and I think you got an answer from the county regarding the continuance of funding.
Yes thank you.
Would you share that?
Yeah so the concern that Councilmember Chavez expressed was whether HR 1 and some of the financial difficulties the county is facing could kind of find their way to jeopardizing funding. And we did confirm with the county that they do not anticipate that being an issue and that they're still fully committed in the, at least in the short term, to homelessness services and the funding that they give them, that they match not only here but also in Oxnard, Ventura, and I think Thousand Oaks.
All right. Any other questions?
I think just, I guess since the shelter operator is here, are you comfortable with the terms of the agreement? Yes. Okay. All right and then just to, since our finance director isn't here for this either, just that you would communicate to her that hopefully everyone is working together on making sure Process because I know there's a little slightly different process in here than where we started in terms of the reimbursement
So she's been involved significantly and not only the regular review, but also working with The parties and with staff especially as Miss Parra gets up to speed
And we're grateful this para for your work On this item. It's much appreciated.
Thank you
motion to adopt second
If I could interrupt for just one moment. I do have someone on Zoom that I'd like to verify if they have public comment. They've just logged on and I just want to verify that before you go through a vote, if you could hold it for one moment. Vicki, I see that you have just recently logged on. Are you here for a public comment on this item? You can take your...
Your mic off to speak. And seeing none, we'll go ahead and pass you on this Vicki if there's another one that you want to speak on please go on the hold your hand up thank you.
Okay so do I have a motion?
Motion to Adopt a second and third amendments to the agreement to provide financial support for the operation of a permanent year-round shelter serving homeless Individuals in Santa Clara River Valley communities including cities of Santa Paula City of Fillmore unincorporated area Piru extending The funding agreement through June 30th, 2027
And is that as
amended? As with proposed revisions.
Thank you
And that's
also to approve
Budget allocations
for all
three items here.
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We've
got the next one. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Anybody opposed say nay. All right passes thank you very much Gloria Parra and Kay Wilson thank you also as well for joining us this evening all right we're gonna move on now unless somebody needs a break we're gonna move on to 10B, appointment of commissions and committees. And this will be with our city clerk. I did want to just talk a little bit about process in just a second.
When Monica Casilla was our attorney, I was going to miss a meeting where there were interviews and she said if you missed, you're not allowed to vote. Now I'd like to get an opinion from our new attorney, Colin Marks. See how he feels about that as well as there was kind of a initial at the beginning we started the interviews with one council member who came in halfway during the second one so...
And that was something I was going to bring up this evening. We have the very first one, we did have three council members here and one was not there but the other person was there for the rest so we have four people who were there for the last four applicant interviews.
Yeah, so standard practice would be to recuse from the items where you were not there or partially there. It's not a legal requirement so long as you've reviewed the actual applications and have a basis for a vote but standard practice would be to recuse but it's not a legal requirement.
So at I would say Maybe at least for yours because you were there, not there for one but interviewed or were there listening to the second. Maybe a recusal on that one and then of course it's up to you Council Member Chavez if you want to recuse on the remainders or have input as well. And I think the only requirement is, as Kellen Merritt said, is that you're familiar with the applicants that they submitted and so...
Okay, go ahead continue to do the last shot.
Yes, thank you Mayor for bringing that part up because that was an important point that we did want to be sure that we were doing the right thing on that. Since the interviews Council did of course interview several people in September I'm so happy to be here for this. It's been quite a few months since we've brought some more people in and we have a lot of openings again, so this is always a happy time.
Since the interviews though, we have had some changes on the parks and rec youth. I head down here as two vacancies with two youth interviewing for them. And one of the applicants was already 18 years old So we were not able to keep them as an applicant. Natalia Manzilla to be able to consider appointment for this. We also have Ms. Stratz who I spoke to on the phone after we had found out that she would not qualify, she was still interested in being on the regular Parks and Rec Commission And we just happened to have someone that had just resigned, which now opens that up.
And so that would just leave that availability to be able to do that on that particular commission. I know in the past you voted on each one individually, and you're welcome to do that. But I do have a few other changes since the interviews on September 28th. I'll go ahead and just go through each one of these very quickly. And then if you want to vote on each one separately, that is fine. And I can answer any questions on each one at that time as well.
So we also have the Design Assistant Historic Preservation Committee. We have three vacancies for that. And we did have, we had three applicants for that. Two of them were returning applicants and one new applicant. On the mobile home rent review, we have one vacancy opening though we did have two applicants, one new applicant and one returning applicant so there was no changes from that interview.
On the Senior Advisory Committee, we had one vacancy for this and we had two applicants. The thing for this one is we have these... We had the two vacancies but since then we heard that there was another one that had just resigned to be able to fill that spot so now there was two Plus, we have an additional applicant who is just terming out this last month. And you do have the opportunity now to be able to renew her application or just go out for more application bids for that. So that's where that's going. And then measure T, we have a returning applicant. We only had one applicant terming out here And she is a returning applicant.
and Santa Paula Housing Authority. We did have three vacancies with three applicants, though one of the applicants was not available for interview. The last sentence that I've put on that one is if you appointed all of them that this committee would be filled but you had not interviewed this new person and I wasn't sure that that wording was correct for you being that you did interview You did interview the other two, so that would be a consideration on that.
And I can answer any questions that you might have before you go into voting.
Who was the third person on the senior advisory committee? You mentioned there's a third that we could reappoint but we don't know name.
Yes well this is where our openings are at. We had an opening in July from Ron Merson who did not wish to renew Then we also had another applicant who just resigned this week, so that made it two. And then we have Another applicant who is expiring but I had not included that person. I've spoken with her and she would like to renew if you're willing to appoint her this evening, she's willing to do that or if you prefer another time when we go. That's Pam Marshall correct? That is Pam Marshall yes
thank you. I don't think she's expiring I think it's her term that expired.
Yes her term is expiring September 6th she expired so We took a long process on this and so she kind of came in the middle of that.
Just for clarification, it appears to be a spot for everyone right? Yes. All but
the mobile home rent review.
But that's, but the person didn't show up correct?
No, no, there is two that applied for that and there was only one position.
That was on the housing authority
appointment where somebody didn't show up. Okay. Yeah. The housing authority there were three, one didn't show
So the Mobile Home Rent Review Commission currently has Cindy Graves and Karen Harrison,
correct? Karen is the incumbent. Right. And Cindy's a...
However didn't you mention that someone was just resigned recently so that would... Not on the mobile. Not for that one, okay. All right.
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You know, so we don't get mixed up. Why don't we just take them one at a time? Okay first one We have these
I just have one question sorry before we start that on them On the first one so you spoke with Cassidy about becoming the regular member.
I did and that worked for her I spoke with her personally and she is interested in an adult position now that she has reached that. She's been on the commission for youth for a couple of years, so...
I just wanted to make sure that we had checked with her because I know that the terms for the regular members versus the youth members are longer instead of one year. So I just wanted to make sure that she was okay with a longer than one-year appointment. Yes, and
she
is interested. Would you like a motion then?
For the
item number one. Yeah, sure so for the for the Parks and Recreation Commission I would move that we appoint Natalia Monsilla for the youth position and then Cassidy Straits for one of the now open adult regular member whatever we're calling them position
all right And there was we did have a quorum that day There was myself Councilmember Crenshaw and Vice Mayor Crosswhite You came in late, and it's your pleasure if you want to vote or abstain or recuse.
I'm not going to recuse myself. I know who these people are. OK. Do we need
a second?
Yes.
I'll second.
All right, moved and seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right. And abstention? We'll just unless you want to vote. No. So we'll have one abstention. Thank you. Please congratulate Natalia Mancia and Cassidy Stratz. All right, now we'll go on to the second one which is Design Assistance Historic Preservation Committee. There's three candidates, Tessa Lenz, Marilyn Foles-Appleby, Karen Harrison, and there are three positions open, right? So that should be easy unless there's an objection to one of them. I'll accept nominations here for a motion.
Move approval of the Design Assistance slash Historic Preservation Commission Committee to move all three.
All right. Moved and is there a second?
Second.
All right, moved and seconded by Council Member Cornejo. Any discussion? All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Anyone opposed? All right so please congratulate Tessa Lenz, Marilyn Appleby and Karen Harrison. We now move on to the Mobile Home Rent Review which this is one where we have One person who's been on it, Karen Harrison coming back to try to get on again and Cindy Graves but there is only one position open. So either a nomination or discussion?
I would vote that we... Is it appoint Karen Harrison the returning applicant?
And I will second.
All
right. And then just in terms of discussion, I want to say that I'm grateful that we had both of them come out given some of the ongoing issues that we have with that committee. I think that at this time it makes sense to have someone continue that's been part of those discussions but I do want to make sure that we notify because Ms. Graves was very interested in the topic And was very interested when I mentioned that we would be having a workshop on this topic So if we could notify her when we have the workshop so that she can come and participate. I think that would be good
All right, so it's been moved in second to appoint Karen Harrison any more discussion If not all in favor say
aye. Aye.
Anyone opposed? All right Thank you, please congratulate Karen Harrison We now move on to Senior Advisory Committee and as we heard we have Amalia Ochoa and Thomas O. Ellis that apply, there's two for two positions although there is, oh I'm sorry Anna Third, Pamela Marshall who wants to be reconsidered by the council for reappointment.
Did she apply?
That's a good question did she apply sometimes
Are you asking about Pamela? She has been on the committee for a while already. Her term just ended and I spoke with her personally and she would like to renew. You don't have to renew her right now, we can still put out more requesting more applicants and go from there with her opening.
So the answer is no that person did not apply. Correct.
We don't require reappointment to renewals, with renewals we ask them for their interest but yeah that's happened. When
did the term expire? September
6th I
believe. So they're off.
Well there...
They would have done this in time before the expiration then it makes sense but the candidate, the position actually expired right so
We allow them to serve until the council
appoints us.
And
this has happened in the past where we've
appointed
people?
Yes, and that does happen you know quite often because we don't bring this large amount here and then we make them wait it takes a long time to get all these in. We have not done interviews and appointments since February so we've had a lot expire since then so how that's been going.
So I understand then that we have three applicants, or three interested and three positions. Yes. And then Pamela has been acting as chair the last few months in the absence of Mr. Merson who resigned or did not renew. So I see no reason why not to approve all three for the three positions at this point so that we can have a full committee?
That sounded like a motion.
It is a motion. I'll second.
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Motion to approve.
Second.
All right moved by Councilmember Chavez, seconded by Vice Mayor Crosby. Any further discussion? All right all in favor say aye.
Aye.
Anyone opposed? Very good. All right. Thank you. Santa Paula Housing Authority this is one where we had three people apply Elizabeth Sanchez, Francisco Estrada Joseph Cervantes and Elizabeth Sanchez did not appear for the interviews So at this point I don't believe Well, anyway. So right now it's whether we appoint the other two and then there's still going to be one position open so we'll probably have to re-advertise.
Re-advertise. OK.
So I will accept the nomination or motion for Francisco Estrada and Joseph Cervantes?
I'll make the motion.
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I'll second.
All right. Moved by Council Member Ornelas, seconded by Vice Mayor Crosswhite To appoint Francisco Serrano and Jill Cervantes. Any further discussion?
I recuse myself on this one, please.
Okay.
All
right. All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Anyone opposed? And one recusal. Thank you Councilmember Chavez. Please congratulate Francisco, congratulations.
And
Joseph Cervantes somebody advised him as well. All right thank you very much for those and we always appreciate and usually like you said Vice Mayor you know please encourage these folks that do not get selected that we have other commissions committees that they can join us so all right we're now going to move on to let's see item 10C consideration of loans from the City Affordable Housing Trust Fund Tombs and Hope, and its project partners for the Gateway Grove and Topa Vistas Villas Affordable Housing Projects. And this will be presented by Gloria Parrian, right? And James Mason? Yes.
All right. Thank you sir.
Your tippy toes.
Yeah, that's it.
Thank you Mayor and Council. So we have two resolutions and recommendations before you tonight that discuss two different projects. One is Gateway Grove, I'll kind of start off with that one. That is if you're familiar with the Santa Paula Motel at 1445 Main Street basically where Main Street and Telegraph Harvard come together This is utilizing Homestead Fund's grant program.
They're looking at about $11 million to renovate this motel, adding 80 square feet to each unit and having transitional housing for unhoused at this facility with Managed a managed facility. They're requesting $600,000 for this One thing that you'll hear me say a lot I love the fact that in the affordable housing Kind of space That there's so much collaboration between players within this and this is a really good example of that We've got homes hope Many mansions, the Santa Paula Housing Authority all working together along with an architect to be able to put together a project and renovate this space.
Additionally, and really we've got 20 housing vouchers from the Santa Paula Housing Authority and then also assistance through the Behavioral Health Systems Act through Ventura County. So that's going to support both behavioral health and the housing. I wanted to But the key on both of these is they want to be able to secure the support from the city as soon as possible, because that provides the support that they need to be able to qualify for the grant.
And then we'll go to the first one, which is the second one. Topa Vista Villas, which is around 550 West Harvard, basically right across the street from where Panda Express and The Bonds is next to Teague Park. They're looking at doing 90 units there, which will be a full-service affordable housing community One thing I want to be able to say about this, and we have a representative for both of these projects here tonight. But they have really worked with the city from the standpoint of land use and kind of respect for community on both sides of town what they're working with. And it's really important to underscore this because under state law right now there's a lot of concessions for affordable housing projects basically I actually went to a recent conference and they said there's almost no need for planning commissions anymore based on what the state has taken away as far as the city's ability to put constraints on projects or utilize their ordinance.
And what I appreciate about the folks in both of these projects is their responsiveness to the type of things that they're going to build something that they're going to manage and take care of for a long time, but also as a city, these are things that we're going to have to have within our community for a long time. Being able to put in designs, setbacks, parking and all the things that we know are going to be impacts that normally could be waived. And I just want to give kudos to them on how they've approached these and been thoughtful in working with us. And a good example is this project abuts Residential development, these houses have been here for a long time and their backyards will face the backyards of this apartment complex.
And they provided more significant setbacks screening and actually lowered the height of it to be able to accommodate and the other thing they did was they did outreach to the community around there and asked them what they needed, what they wanted and spent a significant amount of time doing that. Again this project they're looking for $1 million it's about a 63.5 million dollar project and another piece of this project that's really exciting is that they're using ASIC funds which basically are funds from the state that provide Assistance to the project, given that the project works with the city on public.
Public Works infrastructure so we're going to actually have some opportunities to improve bus shelters, the railroad trail extend more of that. to the west, which wasn't a part of the original project. So there's a lot of things and pending this moving forward with all these approvals they'll have an opportunity to be able to make a bigger impact than just this project on this area.
And again they're asking for $1 million on this project which is about 1.1 million of the total cost of this project. The other one asking for 600,000 is about 5.5% of the total project. I have Luis Hernandez from Homes and Hope here, which represents both projects. He can provide a lot more information and background on these and the layers of funding and partnership that they're doing to make these things happen but just two exciting projects that are really going to impact the people that we have in town that need an opportunity for housing And I can answer any questions. Gloria Parra put significant time into putting this together and as again Mr. Hernandez is here to speak also if you have any questions.
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couple of statements and questions Sometimes people see these large dollar amounts and they see affordable homes, and you get some negative pushback on it. And so I do want to just discuss or bring up the fact that number one these are mandated numbers that we need for our community and we do need affordable homes in my view as we've all discussed to bring in the families and bring in the workforce And it is these are funds that aren't coming out of just our general fund. They are specific to Out of a specific fund for affordable housing So if you could maybe discuss that a little bit But before you do I do want to mention you glanced at me when you said parking because I always talk parking I appreciate very much that extra parking and always want to make sure that the developers are not doing the minimum of In the parking that because it's always a problem, whatever minimum parking.
The more you can put in the better and if you're using that as a setback from the neighbors behind them even better to give them their space as well. But if you could just explain Well two things one is just a bit more about the funds that these are coming out of And the other is how close we are getting to our mandated numbers with affordable housing in our community
Great, I appreciate that so much. From the standpoint of funding on July 31st we have an affordable housing trust fund oversight committee and they reviewed both of these projects and they provided a recommendation to council to approve both of these. Right now we've got about 2.4 million dollars in that fund and that fund comes from developers that have an option within our inclusionary housing ordinance not to build affordable housing. So if a developer is building market-rate housing within our ordinance, they're required to do one of three things.
Either build a certain percentage of affordable housing in which case would be 10% of very low or 15% low income housing as a part of their project. Or build affordable units offsite Or provide an in lieu payment for the housing that they're not going to build. So our fund is based on those in-lieu payments coming in. And right now we've got $2.4 million in that fund that can be used towards that.
One policy decision the Council made on those funds, initially those funds were funds that would be managed as a grant. Someone would come in and ask to use those funds to fund their project and that would be money that would provide affordable housing and that would be the last thing you'd see of it. Based on Council's policy decision All the money that does go out from now on out of that fund goes out as a loan and is coming back. In most of these cases, these projects are 55-year deed restricted affordable and that would be the loan term but in most cases based on basically Their funding and their cash flow being a full occupied unit over time and maybe refinancing, in many cases we'll get that money back much sooner. Anywhere from 12 to 15 years starting to get payments so it's the ability to recycle that money is really important because we don't know what our needs will be in the future and we're limited as far as how much more housing we'll get that will provide those in lieu payments One thing I wanted to mention on the parking side, which is really important.
What's exciting about the Topa Vista project is that they have a significant amount of units that are assigned for people with disabilities and seniors and they're working on a program that in addition to what they have as far as parking is having ride share cars and van share availability so there's going to be a population within this space That will probably not have access to a vehicle and they'll be able to provide that also.
And that's one thing we have within our ordinances, if you can provide a parking plan that involves alternative transportation that can augment and provide not only a benefit to the residents but a benefit to reducing traffic on our streets and parking.
Thanks, Mr. Mason. We get this in the report as council but I think it's important for public to understand where the funds are coming from and how that operates. So the other question though that I had is how we doing on our numbers as far as state mandates? That's fine. I gave you a lot of questions.
Yeah. As far as our state mandates with the projects that we have that have come online and ready to come online, the rest of Redtail Project. We're at about 100% of our very low... I'm trying to remember here. We're close to in the 60% range of our low income and where we're having a challenge is on the moderate income and that's basically 80 to 100% of area median income. And that's what we call the missing middle, those are people who are probably two professionals that have good jobs but the average two bedroom apartment you need to make $150,000 a year to qualify for and that's your in between being able to get any type of subsidy to assist you with your housing but you don't make enough to be able afford that And what's a little off topic, but the redtail project just recently added another is getting ready to add another 53 units that actually address that gap.
So we're and we're actually getting more developers that are looking at that recognizing that there's a big market for that. Probably two and a half to three years. We'll probably hit all our numbers, which is four years earlier than the end of our cycle
pretty amazing I think we're the envy of a lot of other cities because and I credit the department for for working so hard on that So appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you.
Certainly other questions
Not so much a
question
but a comment I noticed something that I hadn't seen in a lot of these developments is that That one on Harvard It's going to have 15% of the units reserved for residents with mobility impairments and 10% of the units for residents with visual or hearing impairments. And a lot of these projects don't necessarily have those accommodations, so I just wanted to point that out. There is a need for that in our community and there hasn't been a lot of development in that area.
It's a question council has asked before, you know when we do these type of projects. When we work with developers on these projects what is the actual need and who are they building this for? And it's just between Redtail, this, it's exciting to see folks that are looking at Santa Paula and really marketing and developing something that meets where the demands are.
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And then there'll be, it looks like there's some units to get folks permanently housed that are currently experiencing homelessness. So that's also good.
Other questions? It's encouraging to hear when a developer is cognizant of the concerns of the neighborhood, the residents on Casabella Court and having three-story apartments behind them so the setbacks in the blocking of the view behind them, that's good to hear. I do have a question about, Language Unit says the project also proposes pedestrian and bicycle improvements connecting the development to Teague Park in the Santa Paula Center. I guess I mean the Santa Paula Shopping Center right? Do we know what those proposed pedestrian
and bicycle improvements are? No, we don't need it. We're working with Public Works and with that ASICS grant to identify we do have a crossing at Laurel Lane which is safe routes to school and the idea is to try and look if there's something between Steckley and Laurie Lane that maybe makes more sense or could be could augment that cross because as you well know people are running across that street from Teague Park to go to the retail center and now we're gonna have another 90 units with the same situation so if he can work on something that It warrants it, but the question is how can it be designed to create a safe space in that block?
All right.
Thank you.
All right any other questions? All right, I'll entertain a motion for a
motion to approve item 10 C 1 2 & 3 Second
Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Pedro Chavez · Seconded by Jenny Crosswhite
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Good evening, Mayor, Vice-Mayor and Council Members. I'm Kyle Miranda, a City Management Fellow here in Santa Paula. Staff received a request from the League of California Cities asking the city council to consider joining the opposition to Proposition 43 by adopting a resolution. Proposition 43 will appear on the November 3rd statewide ballot The central issue is the voter threshold required to approve a local special tax.
Under current law, a special tax proposed by a local governing body requires two-thirds voter approval. However, a special tax proposed through the voter initiative process may pass with a simple majority. Beginning January 1st, 2027, Proposition 43 would require both to receive two-thirds voter approval. For Santa Paula there is no immediate loss of existing city revenue The potential impact would be on how voters approve funding for future local priorities and services.
Supporters of Proposition 43 argue that the higher threshold provides greater taxpayer protections and requires broader voter agreement before a special tax is imposed. Opponents of Proposition 43 argue that the higher threshold will reduce local control, and make it more difficult for voters to approve dedicated funding for local priorities and services. This item also relates to the city's adopted legislative platform, Section 1A Local Government Finance.
Specifically Item 4 which supports allowing a simple majority of city voters to establish local priorities. Items 5 and 9 also address local revenue financial authority. Council has been presented with three options this evening. Adopt the resolution opposing Proposition 43. Do not adopt the resolution or provide staff with further direction. Thank you and I'm available for any questions.
Thank you, Mr. Miranda. Any questions for our management fellow?
No. Motion to approve.
All right. There's been a motion to approve item 10D. Is there a second?
I'll second.
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I feel the need to speak for taxpayers, and I may not vote for this only because between our measures already we're at the highest level of taxes in our county. So I'm not thinking in general on the proposition but I'm thinking of our community and how I feel that as taxed as we are that maybe Maybe we should make it a little bit harder to raise the taxes on that. I fully understand the great purpose of many of the things that we do with our tax revenue, but I'm probably going to oppose this measure, this resolution, but respectfully for opinions on both sides.
Well thank you very much for that. Any other discussion? Okay, Vice Mayor.
Just to be clear, this doesn't have anything to do with A government initiated measure. These measures are citizen initiatives? Right.
Can you elaborate on that then for me, just a bit, or an example?
Well there's not very many in the state are there?
Voter-initiated processes? Would you like an example from a community that... I think there's like...
Yeah. Just to help me on that discussion.
Yes, so Los Angeles measure ULA they were above the simple majority but they were under the two-thirds and approximately would have missed out on $655 million. Is that what the question is? And
the purpose of the tax was...?
I'll have to clarify for that for you.
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EULA was affordable housing related and property transfer tax. And so it created a property transfer tax on properties over $5 million, and then the funds went back to the city for affordable housing.
Honestly, I'd forgotten that clarification about being as opposed to it. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I appreciate but it was so but I just always feel like I need to make a statement or comment for the Taxpayer who's coming up with all the money? So okay. Appreciate that. Thanks
All right, so it's been moved and seconded Is there any further discussion not all in favor say aye
aye
anyone opposed Okay, very good pass Thank You mr. Miranda for your presentation We now
move on to item 10E, Edward's selection of city manager recruitment firm and review of requests for proposal response. This will be presented by our interim city attorney, Kellen Martz.
That is me. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening City Council and for the public, Helen Martz, interim city attorney. This item is the selection of the city manager recruitment firm and review of the RFP responses. The city put out an RFP and that closed in mid-late September. Three firms responded and those three firms are presented to you this evening Those are from the firms of Ralph Anderson and Associates, Bob Murray & Associates and Peckham & McKinney.
Each firm has provided attachments that have the proposals which are included in your packet this evening. Ralph Anderson and Associates would have a fee of $29,000. Bob Murray and Associates would have a fee of $33,000 and Peckham would have a fee of $29 thousand dollars. Each of them have stated in their proposals that the time frame to conduct this search would be approximately 90 to 120 days, give or take.
Two of the firms identified the recruiter that would be working on the matter. Bob Murray and Associates did not note one in their proposal but we would request that from them if they were selected. One thing to note is that if there are additional services that the City Council is interested in adding, those would be separate services. So those could be like workshops in person where residents can voice their interests and their thoughts.
One of the firms does do an online survey as part of their proposal which is included in the fee. And then you can see and Ralph Anderson associates. If the city wanted to do a community workshop, it would cost approximately 2500 to 3500 depending on the instructions from the City Council. Item before you tonight is to review the three proposals, select one of the firms that conduct the recruitment and provide any additional direction to staff. In terms of budgeting I was informed that this was budgeted at $30,000 at a prior meeting so two of the firms are under that one of them is over that.
The city manager has said that there's abilities to handle the additional $3,000. If Bob Marine Associates was selected. And then the process does not take into account the time frame for if a selected candidate needs to give notice to an employer or something like that, so the schedules that are presented are solely for the work being done by the recruitment firm.
And then I believe that concludes my report and I am available for questions.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Martz. I know that we've been given the packets for each of the three companies that could do this research. The three items we can choose from is review the three proposals, two select one and three provide additional direction. I think there might be a feeling to maybe research a little further by interviewing either the staff or one of their people but I open it up to discussion.
I'm just going to dive into it. So, I've had an opportunity to look at all three. I'm just going to share with my fellow council members what stood out to me in these proposals. The top two that I pick is Peckham and McKinney and Bob Marine Associates. I took out Ralph Anderson. In particular, Peck and McKinney, what intrigued me about it was they had a regional approach to recruitment So if you look at the cities that they've had recruitment experience in, they tie to the Central Coast. I think it's important when we're looking at recruiting talent that we recruit talent from areas that understand our ecosystem here and so from the city of San Luis Obispo, Santa Maria, Santa Barbara, Thousand Oaks, Ventura, Camarillo, Moore Park, Westlake Santa Paula, Fillmore and Calabasas.
So that was something I gave this company for me a little bit of an edge because it tailored it towards our region which I think is important. The other thing I really enjoy looking at in particular was their diversity statement and where they looked outside of the box so for instance they go outside of the realm of the norm Which in this case we want to get a diversified pool of candidates from different sectors. And so they, in particular go out to different groups outside of just the city managers association and so I like the fact that they were thinking outside of the box in terms of acquiring talent. For me those are the things that stood out with Peckham and McKinney. With Bob Marine Associates, I highlighted a couple of pieces.
I liked where their pool of candidates were, they understood diversity and ensuring that in their hires they gave us specifics regarding nearly 50% of the last 100 places were women Hispanics were 25 of African-American, et cetera. So I really liked the fact that they were going also outside of the network a little bit further to professional associations that were tied to different women's organizations, LGBT, Latino and so they were really looking outside that scope as well.
But in particular, the other company had more of an edge because this one kind of did the routine thing right? The International City County Management Association, National League of Cities Management Foundation and the League of Cities Magazine recruitment efforts. And what else stood out for me here? Obviously the price tag was a little bit more on option barbarian exposage but what really stuck out to me was which agency is going to have a better perspective based on where we are located. And so the regional thing really stood out to me, they did their homework in identifying and working with those cities that are tied to our ecosystem within the central coast. So my top two are Peck and McKinney and Bob Murray & Associates.
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Any other comments from council?
I mean, I don't know that I feel comfortable. Picking a firm tonight I would like to meet that person and see if I feel like we have a comfort ability with that individual and be able to ask some refined questions about the what's in That seems to be sort of, in my experience has been standard practice as opposed to just I'm going to look at some things on paper and pull one. So I guess personally I would prefer to at least be able to interview them and ask them some more detailed questions.
Could we narrow it down to two and interview those two? Maybe if at this stage just get the three to two?
So I would. The one that I would think I would definitely like to interview is Peck and McKinney. I thought there were some interesting things in there. I liked that they specifically said that they don't poach people they've already placed, whereas I think it was Bob Murray that was like your best candidate would be someone who's already happy where they're at. And I'm like you don't say you don' poach. So I think it would be important to get some clarification Around like when you say that what do you mean?
I Mean, I know in globally what they mean but practically sure. What do you mean?
What would be the process for us if we decide to interview Do they come before us here?
It would be before you hear There's no closed session purpose that wouldn't work
however it would not have to be at a regular council meeting and
Can be a special
absolutely.
Just based on similar things that people have been saying actually I would I'd like to interview two, even if there is a standout. I think you should have a backup because what if we have an interview and something doesn't sit well with us as far as our priorities? The two that stood out to me are Peck & McKinney and the Richard Anderson
one. Oh, you picked Anderson?
Yeah, the Anderson is my other choice.
So it seems like, is there a consensus for at least this one? At least for one, yeah. For one so far?
You know what, I would argue that since we're going to expend the time to interview two how much time to do a full analysis of three just like you know go out to three bids, three responsible bids. I mean they submitted proposals I mean I'd say if we're gonna this is my thoughts we're gonna interview two may as well interview third might change your mind at the last minute so...
What does that mean time-wise for us? How long would that process take? If we could agree on two, I'm good with two. But I just want to understand how long the process would take of setting up those interviews.
Sure in the cities that I've worked with that have done interviews not all do because sometimes they go through a lot of city managers and know who they like to use but in the cities that do it's generally 30 minutes to an hour per search firm.
From now until we get it.
How much would extend the process? We'd have to check their availability If we're interested in a start date in mid-2027, most of the firms seem to indicate they wouldn't start the actual process until like January. There is a city manager's conference that they would like to be selected and start ramping up for and being prepared for in early February so they need to kind of kick off things in January to be ready for that February conference But most indicated they, you know there isn't an interest over the holidays. So we do have a little wiggle room to to do the interviews at a later date probably Jan, November, early November
right? Before yeah before Thanksgiving.
Okay Just just add I'm When we put out the request for proposals We didn't know they were available, so that's why you put it out to three so you've at least got options. And this timeline works as far as the logic, as far as getting this going so that we have a firm in mind before these processes happen and that we're not kind of behind the eight ball on that time-wise. So I'm fine with two or three whatever the council says but I do, I have my two favorites But, or most interesting to me. But I'm fine however the council wants to do it.
And the only reason I brought up all three is because Council Member Chavez picked two and then you picked two different ones. Unless there's this side of the dais has a different feeling? We're certainly open to suggestions.
No, I mean they're fairly different like I think Richard Anderson Only does a background on one and Bob Murray does a background on the top 2 and like there's some fair. And so I would want to hear more on so is it just a cost reason why you only do 1 versus. 2, and you know they have each one has different terms around if your candidate works out or not what happens next?
So I don't know. I think it would just be helpful Like they have different numbers of candidates that they bring as their top, right? One was like four to six. One was six to eight. So I'm not
sure. Should we do a straw poll to figure out who the second choice is if Peck and McKinney is...
I think we all agree that we would want to interview them.
Do we want to do between these two then? At least two.
Who's your second pick? Richard Anderson.
Ralph.
Ralph Anderson. Is that a yes we should see between these two or do we just invite them on three?
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I mean we could see between those two, but also then it would go back to what do they all be available to be interviewed on the same day? Or are we going to have multiple special meetings to interview all three.
That's why if it's going to be an hour each then I think we should select two instead of three.
From my experience I don't think you'll need an hour
I concur. I get that as an outside time, but most 30 minutes? Yeah.
You could block maybe 45 in between so that way you've got some wiggle room.
So do we just give you direction or do we have to motion on it and just go with all three?
I think I would prefer that we do all 3 partially because. I think Bobby Murray was the one that it didn't tell us who our actual recruiter would be inside want to know a little bit more from them also on what process they use is it just who ends up being available? Do they go with his closest? Do they go, do they get a sense of who we are and then pick who they thinks the best fit like I think I just had there was
It sounds like you have two that are leaning towards three interviews
and some of these are say that they only do basically virtual anyway So if we interview them virtually Then we'll know what that would be like going through the process so it would be probably helpful if they Interview with us the way, they would have planned to engage with us. So that we can get a sense of what that process would be like
And in terms of scheduling, generally if we're talking about maybe a month from now give or take. Most of them in my experience will make someone available even if it's not the assigned recruiter though they can make this happen.
So I'm also inclined to interview all
three.
So let's go all three?
Let's just get it scheduled. Do
we need a motion? Is
that just consensus?
I've heard consensus that we're going to invite all three, we're gonna find a date that works and work with their schedules to bring something back approximately a month from now and let everyone know The only one question I have is do you want them to prepare something on the extra kind of workshop community or the online survey options in terms of cost? One of them includes it, some don't. But do you want them to prepare something or is that not an interest?
You can always add it later if you say no, but we can always.
I'm inclined to say no to that and trust our judgment to do that unless we feel like
we hit a wall on this. Although wouldn't it be helpful to know if we decided on that as part of the process what the cost would be? I mean I don't think it hurts if they didn't include it to ask.
I think we should ask anyways.
Again, it's just them giving us a look because I think two of them gave us a line item for that or one of them says if you do one it's included and so I don't think it hurts. All
right. Why don't you conclude that?
I hate to add more work to your load, but it'd be great since we're dealing with three firms out there as a comparison chart of like the... So we know what's equivalent.
Yeah, what they're offering. Yep. And what isn't. Yeah. Sure. All right. You got enough there Mr. Marks?
Absolutely
and I heard
no consensus on not having them do much on the community workshop but just something short and easy.
And we definitely want it before the Thanksgiving holiday. Absolutely.
And just for clarity, for scheduling purposes is Council inclined to just do it like after dinner in the evening or do you want us to try and start like we do with study sessions at like 430 once Gabby's...
Schedule permits give us an hour-and-a-half right? Like 430?
Before a council meeting? Yeah. That would work. Okay, okay.
Do we think that's going to be enough time? That seems a little bit tight.
I don't
know
if that's realistic because of other study sessions and
stuff. Well it'd have to be a special meeting anyways because of that. Because if you look at the agenda for the future agenda items, there's a lot happening and some things are pre-scheduled like the election.
Yeah. It doesn't have to be the night of a council meeting but a 430 start time for this is fine. Yeah
in that way if you go a little late and or you want to deliberate on this election after the three interviews, you'll have time as opposed to doing it on a council night.
I'm here every Wednesday. It's usually a Wednesday, so that's usually maybe an off-Wednesday or something like that? The odd. Odd
Wednesday. Yeah.
Okay.
The second or the fourth? Or the... Very good. I think Mr. March you have enough direction? I do yes thank you very much. Thank you very much for your patience okay we're gonna
move on to item number 11 items for future agenda future agenda items and I think we have one right Mr. Singer?
Correct. Councilmember Chavez has introduced a recommendation, I'll let him speak to that. Your city attorney has also anticipated the council being able to possibly give some feedback tonight as opposed to needing to agendize something and so why don't we let Councilmember Chavez speak to that and staff's here to also answer any questions.
So essentially, FIDEN is being brought up to put a temporary pause on select enforcement of our existing RV policy. And I know that there were some things that were said at the last meeting where there is no enforcement and so I think it's helpful for us to kind of see what we can do in terms of and what we can't do right? What makes sense? And so at the last meeting, I asked a city attorney who had the authority to make the decision on such an enforcement policy.
And I was told that the council could direct the city manager to limit enforcement. And so in this case because we're going through an RV, we're gonna be reviewing our RV policy, going through workshops is gonna take some time We might consider if possible to be on the same page regarding what we want to selectively enforce till such a time that we can engage with community and ensure where everyone's on board with what we want to proceed with since the ordinance is a bit outdated and it doesn't really meet today's standards in terms of what RV culture has become as part of our quality of life here in the community. So this, if it's okay with you, these are things that we have to do that are legally required versus things that we can put a pause on right?
So the non-negotiable obviously our health safety and legal requirements, health and safety vehicle code compliance Public right-of-way, emergency access, traffic and site distance, sewer and waste management, utilities, unauthorized residence occupancy, and abandoned unsafe vehicles. Those are things that we can negotiate on. We have to enforce those rules, right? The things we can put a temporary pause on until it's such We come up with some a better language in terms of our policy is front yard parking right visibility from the street issue screening which ties to landscaping and fencing and etc.
aesthetic appearance Location on private property, front yard, backyard. Time limits. Size and number of RVs. Obviously every property is different. Neighborhood compatibility and parking surface location. So I really appreciate the City Attorney working on giving us It's very clear and precise language. And
I'll say that actually came from staff, so I
can't take credit
for that as much as I'd love
to. Mr. Mason and staff for putting this together because it really kind of lays it out. And again we have to... there's still enforcement. We have to enforce these things. You have to have your vehicle registered. You cannot have anybody living in it. You can't connect your utilities. Those are things that we cannot negotiate on. They have to continue. The things that we want to be able to facilitate and accommodate for right now is the location of where the RV is parked, the visibility, those kind of things. I think this is very reasonable for us as a council.
I don't think it's necessary for us to even put it on the agenda if there's a consensus according to the city attorney that the city manager can use this as the guide as long as we have the general consensus of the council that that's the will Thank
you. Questions for her. Well, one question on when you when it says here front yard and then it says whether an otherwise lawful where the weather. Whether other sleep I mean, you're not supposed to park a car on the front yard. So that seems different than if there's a pad that it's parked on. Can we clarify that?
And that's why it's under a policy choice, because different people have different types of yards. Some people have a front yard where they have an extended wider driveway or they have an RV parking space that's in their front yard that's separate from the driveway, separate from... Or a side yard but it's in their front yard. Now I understand what you're saying. Parking on your grass in your front yard is probably not acceptable
So I guess I'm just trying to understand when we say front yard, that sounds like grass. So I'm just trying to understand.
The way it's written is that it's anywhere on the front yard so that would say if an RV is parked in the front yard and doesn't violate any of the left side issues, it would be permitted to be there under this temporary hold of enforcement.
However, Mr. Mason I hope you know the answer to this. I believe we have restrictions on parking on lawns
Well, that's what I'm saying. I thought we had in general so I would just want to clarify this that since you're not supposed to park a car on there people wouldn't suddenly
be... This would only be under the RV ordinance. So if they're separate ordinances that restrict that activity that wouldn't be subject to this temporary hold
So to her point, if you read this, you're going to say, oh well I have a front lawn that has grass and I'm just gonna park my RV there. I think we could strengthen the language in here too. Like those front lawns that have designated... Concrete or designated asphalt.
You can, on the right side columns you can wordsmith those as you want to clarify so sure and if that's your interest we can certainly
Yes just finding language that would meet that so it wouldn't be confusing or create another issue
Well for example I know of a house It's a corner lot and there's grass all in the corner There's a boat parked right there on the corner on the grass So, and that also brings up another question. When I was doing construction in my house and I was looking at the setbacks from the front of the house and the side yard there's something in the municipal code that talks what is a front yard and what is a side yard but that's for setbacks. I don't know if that applies to you know designation of parking next to the street on the front of the house or the side of the house maybe you might know Mr. Mason?
Yep, it does vary based on that of what's allowed basis. Front yard, side yard, backyard and to your point some corner lots or triangle lots have different challenges but some of these things could be qualified more as Mr. Mertz and Mr. Singer said referencing it to our broader code which is separate from this that wouldn't allow those things anyway.
I want to be cautious. I did have one request for language and that is Thank you for bringing this up, but also what about those issues that come up that are complaint-driven enforcement? And obviously we don't want to start a war between neighbors. They start complaining against each other, but if a neighbor has a bona fide complaint against a property owner they should be able to, you know case by case basis if it applies. If it applies... So complaint driven I would say
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So that's a policy choice, whether if you were interested in giving direction to staff to put this temporary hold in place on the right column here. Whether you would still permit complaint-driven matters to be investigated regardless of this hold? That's a policy question.
I mean, I would think that you would need to either pause these things on the right I mean, legally would make our
Thanks, I'm in favor of doing this and I think I'm fine with just making it health and safety. It's not like we're deciding forever We're just asking for some time to work with the community Who have approached us very respectfully at very interested in solving these problems Which in the end is probably going to be one of those nobody's happy because it's not gonna be perfect But we'll all work together on that on a policy To make sure that we've got our code.
Something that fits the world of today. Modernize. And so, apparently there was a start on this long before any of us were here and with the committee that just never went forward with a lot of very good ideas. So I think with just pausing and still enforcing the health and safety is a really great idea. So we've got...and then moving forward with those Sessions so that we can hammer out some decisions on these things. So we can all move forward on this the uncertainty of wondering whether you're in violation are going to get Ticketed or not And are you being ticketed fairly and all of that is it's just too much right now until we get our code sorted out, so I really appreciate that That this has been brought to us because a moratorium is just too Broad brush and I think that this is workable.
It looks like it could be workable for our staff while we work it out.
I would withdraw my complaint-driven enforcement unless it becomes an issue. Hopefully, we'll get to this sooner than later.
And we just communicate this through appropriate channels and ensure that people understand if this is a temporary move that we're taking, that we're still pursuing the route of public engagement
And I think what would be most comfortable is whether it's a motion or just the council consensus to articulate that this suspension of enforcement is during the period while the ordinance is being considered. So upon that concluding, or if a future council abandons that idea, that gives us kind of an end point.
Also protects the staff. Yeah, yeah, but in a position that could be a little awkward
Could would we solve that first bullet point by just saying whether an otherwise lawful RV? Should be permitted to park in a driveway. Yes take out this Yeah,
okay or improved surface
or improved surface Just because I just feel like if it says yard, that gets messy. All
right well
I'd feel more comfortable we take a vote on this somebody want to...
I make a motion to temporarily enact the following RV ordinance with appropriate amendments.
And I'll second it.
Would you
add while the ordinance is being considered? Or something about while the ordinance is
being
considered.
The process of the RV ordinance is being considered and adopted.
Okay, so it's moved by Councilman Chavez seconded by Councilor Moranelis with the amendment and the language any other discussion?
Just putting it out there as fast as possible so people don't stress about getting another notice in the mail.
Could we put something on our website? The decision this evening and basically the...
ASAP.
Okay. Very good, thank you Councilor Mornell. All right all in favor say
aye? Before you go to vote... I do want to thank the residents because it was a very respectful process where the residents reached out and they were very common sense oriented and at the same token staff who moved quickly on getting this together and this just shows good government so thank you for all the parties involved making this
possible I appreciate that we were able to come up with a way to implement this without having to spend a bunch of staff time writing a moratorium that could be staff time spent on working on an ordinance update or one of the other ordinance updates that we have. So not having to expend that extra funds is appreciated.
All right, there's a motion and second on the floor. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed say nay. Sir, thank you very much. Sorry it's last on the agenda. Your neighbors should be thankful for your presence. We appreciate it. All right with that we're going to go ahead and adjourn this meeting. The time is 10 o'clock.