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MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 February 24, 2026

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:51

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed17:25

I will now call to order the City Council meeting. Will the city clerk please call roll?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role17:30

Council Member Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed17:31

Here.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role17:32

Council Member Gutierrez. Here. Mayor Pro Tem Engler.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed17:36

Here!

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role17:37

Mayor Taylor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed17:38

Here

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and Council Member Newman. Here

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed17:43

Council Member Newman is participating remote in tonight's meeting pursuant to the Brown Act requirements, I must ask Council Member Newman is there anyone who is 18 years or older with you in the room?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed17:56

No, Mayor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed17:57

Thank you. Tonight we have one closed session case. Ms. Noonan will you please announce tonight's session?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed18:03

Thank You Mayor Taylor. We have one closed session tonight anticipated litigation initiation of litigation pursuant to government code section 549 56.94

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed18:17

All right we'll see everybody here shortly you The Oaks City Council meeting is being recorded. Oaks City Council meeting.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15:38

All right we are back from closed session. Ms. Nunes is there anything to report?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:17:21

Yes, there is Mayor Taylor City Council unanimously authorized initiation of litigation information related to the lawsuit will be publicly available after service a process

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:17:32

Thank you. And tonight we have the color guard from Boy Scout Troop number 127, Eagle Scouts Alexander Ashton, Preston Hall and Bobby Mills are going to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. So if you're able please stand and take it away boys.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:19:05

All right thank you guys. We appreciate that. Tonight we have a special presentation and I would like to welcome Moorpark College President Julia Socanu to the podium. Dr. Socanu is here this evening to give us an update on the college. Great to have you here, and thank you for your continued work expanding opportunity in our community.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:19:28

Thank you so much, Mayor Taylor, the City Council staff, members of the audience. I appreciate the opportunity to share with you the work that we're doing at Marquardt College. First of all, I do want to tell you that I have with me this evening members of our campus community. I have our trustee. Trustee Lou Lictle is here with us. I have members of my team from our foundation as well as from our business office.

The most important thing I will share with you this evening is the fact that you have the best community college in the nation in your community. That's the first thing I'm going to share with you that I believe is significant. The other significant data point is that all are welcome at Montauk College, And you see who we serve. That data sort of shows not only the diversity of our student population in terms of first-generation college students, in terms of students who are younger, who are dual enrollment students. We share information with you in terms of our adult learners and our campus community.

And what you will notice is also that we're a majority minority institution. How do we serve our students? We do it through dual enrollment. We're doing it through a PACE program, which is for adult learners. 335 of our students are actually adults who are taking classes exclusively online and getting degrees from Montauk College. We have 25 degrees which you can earn exclusively online.

We have hybrid instruction, certificates, associate's degrees and bachelor's degrees And we also do, through our district office, just-in-time training for workforce. So we're here for the city, we're here for the community in a variety of ways in which you need us. The data you see on screen right now is actually Thousand Oaks specific data and what I'd love to call out here is the fact that It is not only varied, but that you have 392 of the students at our college from Thousand Oaks are first-generation college students. They're the first in their families to go to college. They're the first in their families to pursue a degree opportunity and that is dynamic. That is how we grow the community and that is how we build capacity and wealth put people in careers that allow them to not only support their families, but to add and communicate with the community in ways in which invests in its success.

What you will also see is that Stiles & Oaks, actually the Conejo Unified School District sends us one of its highest numbers of students that come to more of our college's dual enrollment students. And actually part of that is a tradition that our trustee started when he was at the school district here. So again, we serve folks of all ages. We serve folks from all backgrounds and importantly enough 12.36% of the students at Marquardt College live in Thousand Oaks. 392 of those are dual enrollment students as I said earlier.

The college is doing well. We're growing by 4% in comparison to last spring and what is important is that we are increasing our fall to spring persistence rates, which tells you that students are staying with us, they're getting the degree or they're staying with us and working towards getting the degree. What is also important for you to know about Mopar College is that we have a high transfer rate. We're known for our transfer. 89% of the students who apply to a CSU get in, 89% of our students who apply to a CSU at first try get in at that first try. With UC's last year 359 students applied to a UC 529 got accepted. That is an 80% acceptance rate to a UC school which is incredible.

As you know, we're an Aspen Prize finalist and we've been an Aspen Prize finalists for the last two cohorts. And when you look at the data, the Aspen Prize finalists are the top 10 community colleges in the nation. When you compare the success rates of the students who were in that finalist cohort institutions and their transfer to four-year institutions, Montpellier College students exceed them, exceed them, the top ten community colleges in the nation by 13 percentage points.

Similarly, when you look at those students when they transfer to a university and look at the time to completion and we look at the six-year time to completion, Mopar College students exceed those students in the top ten community colleges in the nation by 16% percentage points. This is your local community college at work. The next slide just shares with you the institutions to which our students transfer and who we work with Why do we have such successful transfer programs? Because we have a culture of transfer. Our understanding is that we need to make it easier for students to transfer, and how do you make it easier for students to transfer? Well, you provide them honors programs so they can get into an honors pathway which allows them to get into an institution like UCLA.

71% of the students who go through Montauk College's honors program get into UCLA at first try. We have an Aspen Transfer Success Program that allows our students who want to and who want to go to the highly selective research institutions, Aspen supports us. They support those students by providing them workshops. They support those students by providing them mentorships at the universities and as such they get into those universities. What is very important in terms of our transfer culture is that we invite universities to come on campus and conduct admissions opportunities for students. And we have onsite, on-the-spot admissions with CLU, with California Lutheran, with CSUCI, La Verne, Grand Canyon, Woodbury and a couple of other universities.

You know about accolades. I'm not going to sort of talk you through those, but the important pieces of information that you need to know is that as a result of these accolades funding organizations, as a result of these accolades transfer institutions seek us out and seek our students out. So that's our transfer success. The other part of our success is about workforce development and workforce success.

The next two slides share with you the partnerships that the college engages in so as to effect success. So there are partnerships with education, there are partnerships with our municipal partners of which you're one of them, there are partnerships with our financial institutions There are partnerships with community-based organizations, as well as industry partners. And so you will see that some of these individuals are vendors. Some of them are internship sites for our students. Others provide us scholarships. Others work on advisory committees so that we can have the best curriculum and we can have the most up to date equipment. And yet others, like the Navy Base of Ventura County work with us so that our students actually get the opportunity to intern with them and intern to work.

Intern to full-time employment. Like the Navy Base of Ventura County some of our employers actually pay for their employees to come and study at our institution while they work with them. Takeda Pharmaceuticals located here in Thousand Oaks is another institution, another organization that we partner with that not only provides internship opportunities that lead to full-time employment but they support us through labs. They support us through equipment and they support us by having their employees teach for some of our college.

Internships are important and the feedback we get from our students about the internships is that it prepares them to go into high wage, high demand careers. And in so doing they have an upper hand and employers also recognize that. I want to share with you that not only are we transferring students to universities and not only are they getting employed, but our students are also starting their own businesses. So you will see the reference to game design over there. Two of our students have games, video games that are now being prepared for marketing to the general public.

The competencies and skills that they pick up at More Park College lead them to career success. At the end of within a year of completing their degree at Mopar College. This is the result of a study that was done by the College Futures Foundation, where they looked at students 15 years after they left institution and tracked their success over that time frame. I've shared with you that we offer internships. I've also shared with you that our students are doing exceedingly well in professional capacities. Our nursing student have 100% completion rate on NCLEX. And similarly, with our radiology students, they have a 91% completion rate and pass rate, sorry.

We're very excited about that. But what we're also excited about is the fact that we've just been approved for a bachelor's degree in cyber defense network operations. If you are concerned about the safety of your information, if you are concerned about the potential for cyber terrorism, You know that we need to have individuals who are not only trained, but who are trained at institutions that have the integrity and that have the recognition. And Mobile College is recognized by the NSA as a center of excellence and thus our students get additional training and our faculty get additional training so they can be competitive in the workplace.

The other thing that's coming up at Montpellier College this year, and particularly at the end of the summer is a summer concert series. Last time I was here with you, I shared with you that we were looking to build an amphitheater. $60 million. Well, $60 million doesn't drop in your pocket unless one of you has that and you want to share that with us. But it doesn't drop in your pocket just like that. So our foundation has raised funds and we've purchased a temporary amphitheater stage, and that amphitheater stage will start hosting concerts as probably as early as August of this year through the fall.

This will be the beginning of our 60th year. Moorpark College turns 60 next September, and so we are using the opportunity of our 60th year to showcase the stage and bring in high-quality entertainment to the communities that we serve. We are your local community college. We are partners in advancing the economic success of the city of Thousand Oaks and families, and the industry, and the businesses, and the community-based organizations that you serve. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to speak with you this evening. I appreciate it, and I don't take it for granted.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:30:12

Doctor, thank you so much for being here. Having an option is a... Yeah, thank you. Having a community college option for our kids, especially one that's excelling is really valuable for us. So thank you for your work and thank you for the presentation tonight. Thank you so much. All right next up is public comments. Will the City Clerk please announce them?

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:30:38

This is the time and place for public comments. Speakers are requested to state their community of residence for the record. 11 individuals have requested to speak pursuant to council standards, speakers are allowed three minutes. The yellow light displays when you have one minute remaining.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:30:56

All right, we are gonna start with in-person tonight and then we'll move over to Zoom. You have three minutes. I won't be harsh but if you see the lights go on, we would just ask that you wrap it up at that point. We're gonna start tonight with Larry Potishman and then after Larry will be Diana Marquez.

CommentLarry PotishmentProposedself-stated1:31:19

My name is Larry Potishment from Thousand Oaks The undocumented in Ventura County are a significant part of the economic growth of our region, which I'll briefly detail for you. They contribute $3.3 billion annually to Ventura County GDP, which is over 10% of the county total according to Jamshid Damui, professor and director of economics at CLU. Through all their economic activity each employee generates about 45K in total tax revenues for various government levels and services They contribute about $175 million to Social Security and the employers add $157 million, none of which these documented ever receive because they're ineligible for Social Security.

But the ICE effect on businesses as well as the undocumented has been devastating. In a February 9th report, the LA County Department of Economic Opportunity and LA County Economic Development Corporation released a report Analyzing the economic impacts of federal immigration enforcement activities on small businesses, workers and communities. Some of these business disruption statistics in the report include 3.7 million reported business losses in just three months from July to September 2025.

82% of businesses surveyed reported negative impacts from immigration enforcement. 51% reported decreased customer traffic, 33% of employers said workers were afraid to report to work and 59% of employers expressed concern about maintaining their workforce. So as businesses lose customers and workers to ICE raids we're experiencing significant economic and business impacts But beyond these repercussions, please consider the devastating effect of breaking up families with long histories here on the wives and children of those left behind.

Over 78% of the undocumented in Ventura County have been in the US for over 10 years and 30% have been here more than 20 years. Approximately 32% of Hispanic or Latino children live with undocumented parents. And since less than 10% of those arrested have violent criminal records, what's the benefit of these arrests? What's the point? It's hurting families, businesses and the economy.

I encourage the City Council to consider all options you have available to you to slow or stop these raids and to help these victims. In conclusion, we need to invest in real humane solutions. Pathways to amnesty and stability that keep families together instead of pouring billions into detention systems, tearing parents from their children, undermining constitutional protections and normalizing cruelty.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:34:25

Next up is going to be Diana. Following Diana will be Shannon Anderson.

CommentDiana MarquezProposedself-stated1:34:36

So this weekend, well first of all I'm going to say that I am Diana Marquez. I am a proud daughter of immigrant parents. This past weekend I attended my last uncle's funeral where we were watching movies, family movies of 35 cousins growing up together in Boyle Heights With seven uncles and aunts watching over us, laughing and playing with us as we were growing up.

And my father was the oldest of those children. He was born in the United States and he brought his mother here, and then he sponsored each and every one of his siblings to come here so that they could become citizens. All of those aunts and uncles raised 35 children that all went on to college, have gone on to become doctors, engineers, and highly successful professionals.

These days, our society doesn't allow that pathway for citizenship. These days we are using immigrants as if they were slave labor. It benefits the economy of the United States And it is unjust to the people of Mexico. This was Mexico, our people lived here first. Our families were divided by a border from a war that was unjust. Fought not only by Mexicans, but by Irish who saw the injustice of that war and fought for Mexico. Went AWOL against the United States of America because they saw that they were fighting for the wrong side.

I have Irish blood in me because of that. My whole family does. Nobody in the United States is an American. There's no such thing except for the natives, and yet the rest of us are treated so unjustly. We've talked about the economic impact of the immigrant community. We've talked that over and over again, and I thank Larry for bringing it up again, but it's falling on deaf ears.

MAGA supports ICE, and ICE is taking on Nazi tactics against our people. And if you don't see that, all I can say is none are so blind as those who won't see not those who can't. Those who won't. How far back does MAGA want to take us? Back to the 1400s, the 1600s? How far back? To make America great again? No. We should be looking to the future for the American promise.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:45

Following Shannon will be Clint Foltz.

PresenterShannon Andersonimmigrants in our community for the dProposedself-stated1:37:50

Hi, good evening council members. My name is Shannon Anderson. I'm a volunteer with 805 UndocuFund and I just want to start by thanking you for all of your efforts so far on behalf of immigrants in our community for the donation to the Ventura County Community Foundation as well as the placement of red cards at the counters here in City Hall I know that you're very limited in what you're able to do since these are matters that are dictated at a federal level, but I did want to appreciate and recognize you for what you have done.

I also wanted to express my appreciation for the presentation about Moorpark College. I believe that higher education has always been important, but right now is particularly important as we realize how critical it is in educating our citizenry to become informed voters who can make discerning decisions in the voting booth. So I'm really proud to have that community college here in our backyard and grateful for the work that it does.

So that said, I wanted to update everybody on what our local ICE agents have been up to lately. So I'm gonna drop some things in the overhead projector.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:39:06

TOTV there's something to show.

PresenterShannon Andersonimmigrants in our community for the dProposedself-stated1:39:27

Thank you. So these are a couple of vehicles that were on the road today, driven by ICE agents as they drove through Ventura County looking for people to detain. There are a series of five black Pathfinders that were recently purchased that you can see on the roads now. The one that you can see in the picture I believe has a Nevada license plate. Also be on the lookout for one with a Florida license plate, as well as vehicles with no license plates.

The other vehicle is a Silver Expedition with an obscured license plate with a bubble cover. If you see these vehicles, you can call our hotline at 805-870-8855. There's another item TOTV. Okay, thank you. So these are the four other vehicles that were roaming our county today. You can see a white Dodge Durango with no license plate. You can see a new Jeep Laredo also with no license plate.

You can see an older model of Jeep with a bubble cover makes the license plate difficult to read. And then that last one is a Silver Explorer. So again, if you see any of these vehicles or you think you see them, you can call or text our hotline at 805-870-8855 and we will send patrollers to respond and make sure that the community is protected and safe. And if we can't do that, we will document what takes place. Thank you so much for your time.

CommentClint FultzProposedself-stated1:41:24

Hello, my name is Clint Fultz and I'm a resident of Thousand Oaks. I'd like to address some of what was said during the public comment period at last City Council meeting. A few of those comments were dismissed as hyperbolic by other speakers and I'd like to express my concerns. It's undeniable that our community is being affected by masked ICE agents who often refuse to identify themselves and drive unmarked cars erratically through our streets. They operate without community oversight and are a threat to public safety. Across the U.S., ICE is engaged in the practices of illegal racial profiling, warrantless arrests, and detaining suspects including U. S. citizens without cause.

This all goes far beyond immigration enforcement. According to one report, out of 379,000 arrests only 8,700 of them were suspected gang members or suspected terrorists. That's a mere 2% of arrests. 98% of those people arrested were terrorized without reason. Our Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights are being violated oftentimes just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

People are being held often without access to lawyers, held for days or weeks after judges have ordered them released. Hundreds of judges around the country have ruled more than 4,000 times since October that the current administration is detaining immigrants unlawfully. People including children have been physically and sexually assaulted, denied adequate food and water, and at least 31 reported deaths of detainees has occurred.

And now ICE plans to spend $38 billion to acquire warehouses across the country and retrofit them into immigration detention centers that can hold tens of thousands of people. How would you feel if one of the warehouses in our community was converted into a concentration camp? Andrea Pitzer, author of the book One Long Night A Global History of Concentration Camps available at The Thousand Oaks Library defines concentration camps as mass civilian detention without real trials targeting vulnerable groups for political gain based on ethnicity race religion or political affiliation other than for crimes committed.

The growing system of detention camps in the U.S. fits this definition. The first concentration camps was built in Cuba in 1896, not long after the U. S. established concentration camps in the Philippines. Later, the US interned Japanese residents in camps which were described by Presidents Roosevelt and Harry Truman as concentration camp. What we are seeing in this present day, this growing network of concentration camps is a continuation of this dark history.

I ask that the council and members of our community love thy neighbor, do whatever is legally permitted to stop these atrocities and hold ICE accountable before the situation grows any worse. Thank you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:44:29

Next up is going to be Laura Tribble. Following Laura will be Wren Schwinn. I am going to say this, I run the risk of it not being perceived well so my apologies but for the applause we just ask because we have a lot of speakers tonight if you guys don't mind wave your hands but just so we can make sure everybody gets their moment to talk and we get everything accomplished but we thank you. We are very glad you guys are here speaking

CommentLaura TribbleProposedself-stated1:44:53

Thank you, Mayor Taylor and thank you council members. My name is Laura Tribble and I'm a resident of Thousand Oaks. And I want to begin by grounding this discussion in facts and not fear. Earlier this year the Atlantic reported that the per capita crime rate of federal border enforcement officers was higher than the per capita crime rate of undocumented immigrants in the United States. That comparison was drawn from years of arrest and misconduct data. Yet despite that reality, undocumented immigrants are the ones treated as a public safety threat. They are detained and separated from their families and targeted by sweeping enforcement.

And Monday in testimony before Congress, a former ICE official described internal directives that encourage agents to push legal boundaries prioritizing arrest quotas and rapid removals over constitutional safeguards He testified that agents were pressured to make arrests even when probable cause was questionable and restraint amongst agents was discouraged. That was not just concerning, it was alarming because the lawlessness is not theoretical. It's happening here in our streets.

Federal courts have repeatedly found that the Department of Homeland Security practices have violated or infringed at least six constitutional amendments. These are not allegations, these are judicial findings. First amendment through surveillance and retaliation against journalists protesters and people documenting enforcement The Fourth Amendment, through warrantless stops and prolonged detentions without probable cause. And the Fifth Amendment, through denial of due process and family separations without individualized determinations. And the Sixth Amendment, through interference with access to counsel.

And the Eighth Amendment, through prolonged detention in inhumane conditions and documented medical neglect. And the Fourteenth Amendment, though racial profiling and discriminatory enforcement. We are not talking about isolated mistakes. We are talking about patterns that federal courts have already ruled unconstitutional, and some of the people being stopped here in the Conejo Valley and questioned our citizens and their minors, and people are harassed for proof of citizenship because they do not look white.

How can we call this public safety? When federal agents operate outside constitutional guardrails it erodes trust and destabilizes families and makes communities less safe, not more. Our city has both a moral and legal responsibility to protect the constitutional rights of everyone within our jurisdiction. That means ensuring city resources are not used to assist in unlawful detentions, and it means demanding transparency, and it means standing clearly on the side of the Constitution. And this is not about partisanship. This is about the rule of law.

If we truly believe in the Constitution, then we have a duty to defend it. And I urge this council to take meaningful action and support any local policy brought before you that protects our constitutional rights and addresses these serious concerns. And, I am a volunteer from 805 Madaki Fund, and we come to these meetings to make sure everyone here knows that we are there looking out for our citizens. Thank you. All

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:47:57

right next up is Wren, and then following Wren will be Joel Harbison.

CommentWren SchwindProposedself-stated1:48:04

Hi, my name is Wren Schwind. I'm a resident of Newberry Park for over 20 years. I was checking out the Thousand Oaks City website and I was reading the Our Vision statements where it says a tight-knit community where people of all ages, stages of life and backgrounds can thrive in a suburban family friendly environment It also states residents and visitors alike value the safe, welcoming family-friendly atmosphere.

There's also Thousand Oaks City guiding principles that state family friendly community with a high quality of life accessible to all An inclusive and welcoming community that embraces ethnic, racial, age, gender, disabled and special needs, sexual orientation, religion and economic diversity. Diverse and resilient economy. A city that recognizes its role as a leader in Conejo Valley, Ventura County and Southern California region. These are all wonderful things and it makes us all very very proud of our city.

And I appreciate all that you do for the residents of your city to make sure that we follow these principles and vision So, how can you help your Thousand Oaks families and their children who are not criminals from being terrorized and living daily lives of fear? I do appreciate that you hand out the red cards. At City Hall, giving information on residents and their rights.

Maybe we could give that to the ICE agents that come around in the city so that they would also know the rights of the people. Our city's economic health also very much depends on our Latino residents. So as a Thousand Oaks City, let's make sure that we keep on our path and stay on the right side of history. Thank you.

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CommentJoel HalversonProposedself-stated1:50:42

My name is Joel Halverson, an American citizen and legal resident of Thousand Oaks. The previous Thousand Oaks City Council meeting held on February 10th was the very first council meeting I attended. I was invited to join with my patriotic brothers and sisters from Patriot Academy. I left frustrated and stunned by the lack of logic, common sense, and fiduciary restraint shown not only by my neighbors but some of you on the council.

I appreciate our neighbors from 805 Undocufon being here, exercising their First Amendment right to peacefully tell us about federal agents in our area arresting illegal aliens. We need to give them credit for not being out there rioting and obstructing those federal agents like they have in Minnesota. However repeatedly they called the arresting of these illegal aliens kidnapping and in the famous words of the prophet Inigo Mendoza, I do not think that word means what they think it means I remind the Council, a kidnapping is an unlawful restraint of a person.

An arrest is an unlawful taking of a person by the justice system. The rhetoric of kidnapping or likening Thousand Oaks to Nazi Germany is not helping defuse the situation they seem to claim is causing crippling fear. They are feeding into that fear with inaccurate words. Whether intentionally or not, I suspect it is. The council needs to understand the correct terminology to accurately reflect what is happening.

Finally Council Member Report by Robert Engler brought bad news about the funding the state will be providing or maybe not during his trip to Sacramento to discuss e-bikes. Council Member Engler mentioned a cost-neutral program to raise taxes to offset the dwindling revenue from gas tax. This dwindling, he noted, is caused by the increase in use of electric vehicles and cars becoming more efficient.

Council Member Engler wants to shift that income stream to a more realistic approach. Are you serious? You sound like the Surgeon General complaining about the loss of tobacco tax sales. How long have progressives been regulating everything from light bulbs to shower heads, to toilets, to stoves we can install in our homes? Even the type of cars we can drive.

And when we're successful in reducing our water, electricity or gas, bureaucrats find new inventive ways to raise our taxes, or as you call them revenues. How about we try to reduce the city's budget by rooting out waste and fraud like our neighbors in Minneapolis or the use of doge?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:53:30

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CommentJoel HalversonProposedself-stated1:53:30

you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:53:33

Next up, we have Michael Steele.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:53:53

Good evening. I figured the last time, I didn't do justice for my attire so I'm just going to do a quick spin for the camera so that way everyone can see. Please vote for Steve Hilton for Governor. Thank you for that moment. So with that being said, I want to thank the previous gentleman for addressing this. Because the group 805 UndocuFund appears to have some kind of warped education about words and meaning, so I wanted to also lend credibility to the previous speaker. When they address things like kidnappings those are actually lawful arrests and lawful deportations of people who shouldn't be here. Now somebody earlier was speaking about constitutional rights Now, if you are a legal citizen within this country then you have rights. If you criminally entered this country that makes you a criminal.

You don't have rights now during the Biden administration there was 20 million more than 20 million illegals who were paid to enter our country among those were 300,000 undocumented children who went missing and I don't hear anyone from 805 undocufined talking about that with all their empathetic hearts however Among them was also cartels who are active in California and Texas and other states converting residential neighborhoods to toxic grow zones and chemical laboratories. Now my mom migrated here from Colombia, that would be a South American country for those of you who don't understand. You have two ways to enter the U.S., there is no third option.

Somebody was talking about economic disparities for businesses did any of you stand up for businesses that were shut down during COVID? If not, you have no place to speak. People are talking about our constitutional rights being violated as they are standing here today. I don't know how your personal constitutional rights were violated. Please explain that to me the next time you're talking.

Somebody else was mentioning Nazi tactics. That is a huge conflation of what's going on. That's federal law enforcement doing their job and arresting people that should not be here and those that might be next to them might also have entered the country illegally but they are targeting criminals So finally somebody asked me, love thy neighbor. If you came here and are here legally, you are my neighbor. Thank you for the time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:56:12

All right now we're going to be moving over to Zoom. First speaker is Rosanna Guerra.

CommentRosanna GuerraProposedself-stated1:56:20

Good evening, Mayor Taylor and City Council members. My name is Rosanna Guerra and I'm a longtime resident of the city of Thousand Oaks. My husband and I selected Thousand Oaks to purchase a home and raise a family because of the quiet neighborhoods excellent schools in the feeling of community. I've come before you many times to discuss the changes in our community due to the infiltration by federal officers of the Immigration and Custom Enforcement Agency.

At the time, I was instructed to contact my congressional rep. I did that and I'm happy to say that action was taken to hold a press conference outside the detention center and an inspection as well with a determination to abolish The practices of the recent administration with regard to enforcement. So why am I still before you? Because I am fearful of the safety that their practices impose upon our community.

Testimony on Monday, February 23rd before the Senate Oversight Committee by a former trainer outlines a risk that is posed by their methods of operation. What you may not know is the following since the new administration has taken effect. Training hours for new cadets has been reduced by close to half, from 548 hours to 240. No classes on the constitutional requirements for their job.

Reduced classes on firearms training and the use of force taught by the legal department. No classes on how to use our firearms correctly and safely. No classes on how the Constitution works and limits to their authority. Classes on rights of protesters was cut down from two hours to ten minutes. Cadets are not taught how to be objectively reasonable. These are some of the points, which means we have armed cadets without any type of adequate training posting risks to all our communities.

This should be alarming to all of you. My ask is simple, to compose a group of community members, stakeholders and clergy That periodically reports directly to City Council on the methods of operation by ICE, so that intervention and documentation takes place at the city level. This documentation by community-minded stakeholders and citizens will be the assurance needed to safeguard against restrictions on our rights and on unlawful uses of force.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:59:14

Next up we have Danielle Bloom or Blum, excuse me. She's not on. Okay moving on we will go to Milo Wagner.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:59:40

Yes this is Milo Wagner I'm a 20-year resident of Thousand Oaks. I worked as a molecular biologist, the economic engine that is California from the people in the fields that make us an agricultural powerhouse to the laboratories that create intellectual value and make us a technology leader These are the people that feed the economic engine of California. These are not invaders, these are our neighbors.

Our constitutional rights are being violated, as the whistleblower testified in Congress. They are deliberately ignoring our constitutional rights. They're shooting American citizens in the streets and then clapping and comparing it to a video game. And these knee-bending bootlickers Dare to say we're questioning their professionalism and dare to compare them to Nazi Germany, please get a grip.

Billionaires are making millions warehousing people and they're celebrating. We're building concentration camps in America. I'm a US military veteran. I fought for freedom for this country not the freedom to make concentration camps. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:01:13

And last but not least, Kinsey Flame.

CommentKinsey FlameProposedself-stated2:01:24

Hello everyone I hope i'm on the right item and i'm not here to talk about e-bikes don't be shocked My name is Kinsey Flame. I'm a Thousand Oaks resident, small business owner and a mom raising kids in this community. And I'm here tonight to support Fur and Feathers Farm Stand not just because it sells eggs and baked goods but because it represents something bigger. It represents the kind of neighborhood we all say we want. We talk a lot about community. We talk a lot about supporting small business We talk about teaching our kids initiative, responsibility and hard work. And when someone actually does those things legally, transparently and with care we put up roadblocks.

This isn't a corporation, this is a family. This is a small stand on wheels. This is someone who followed the process, got the license, worked with the city and invested her time money and heart into something positive. As a mom I think about what our kids are watching. They're watching to see whether effort is rewarded or discouraged. Whether building something is worth it. Whether community support is real or just something that we say. A neighborhood farm stand doesn't hurt a community, it strengthens it It creates connection. It gives neighbors a reason to stop, talk and know each other.

It makes our city feel human. Thousand Oaks has always been a place where families and small businesses can thrive. This is exactly the kind of entrepreneurship we would be encouraging not making harder I respectfully ask that you approve this permit and allow this family to continue contributing to the community they love Some of the other local moms who could not be here and wanted to share their support as well. Megan O'Weager, Angela Iglesias, Angela Spruill, Heather Mandap, Debbie Flintner, Summer Lingardia, Sarah Hollis and Brandy Kitali. I hope that you guys allow us to keep this wonderful farm stand and keep making our community a kind community that is human and has these kinds of things because if their neighborhood won't let it send them to mine.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:03:21

Thank you, Kenzie. Thank you to all the speakers online and here tonight. Does the city manager have any comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:03:27

Yeah, just very briefly. The farm stamp item mentioned by the last speaker that is an administrative hearing item that's being run by the Community Development Department. And as with all things there is a process and so that is going through that particular process but that is not in front of the City Council tonight.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:03:45

Thank you. Next is consent calendar. Does anyone have any questions or would anybody like to pull any items? Can I get a motion?

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction2:03:54

Move the consent calendar.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:03:57

Thank you, we have a motion. City Clerk can you call the vote?

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion. City Clerk can you call the vote?
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Council Member Adam? Yes. Council Member Newman? Aye. Council Member Gutierrez? Yes Mayor Pro Tem Engler? Yes And Mayor Taylor? Yes
UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:04:11

and that motion passes five to zero

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:16

All right, and I'm going to just mention this to Council Member Newman. As we start moving into the public hearings if you have any questions just put up the hand wave and I'll just be monitoring it so I can get you so that you could speak if there's anything. Appreciate that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:04:33

thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:33

Mayor. No problem next up is our public hearing will the City Clerk please open the hearing?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:04:39

Hearing advertised as required by law is open to consider agenda item number 10A, accessory dwelling unit regulations update MCA 2025-7003. Speakers are requested to state their name and community of residence. One person has presented a speaker card in pursuant to council standards. That speaker is allowed five minutes. The yellow light displays when you have one minute remaining.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:05:03

Thank you. Presenting the item tonight is Community Development Technician Matthew Mateo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:05:11

Good evening, Mayor Taylor and fellow members of the council. Staff will be presenting tonight's item on the Municipal Code Amendment. Just for some overview this presentation will cover the item requests, some background information, summary of new state legislation as well as summary of ordinance amendments followed up by City Council compliance and general plan consistency concluding with staffs recommendation The request before you is as mentioned previously to amend and update Article 45, the Accessory Dwelling Unit Ordinance to align with recent changes of state law to address comments provided by the California Department of Housing and Community Development.

As well as other changes for clarity, consistency, and readability. To provide some background for you all to this request, the city's ADU ordinance was recently updated in February of 2025. The ordinance was then submitted to the California Department of Housing and Community Development, HCD on March 5th for review. Months later in September HCD provided findings on the ordinance which required revision.

Additionally, in October 2025 the governor signed four new AD related bills. Assembly Bill 462 which actually became effective October 10th of 2025 as an emergency measure. Assembly Bill 1154 Senate Bill 9 and Senate Bill 543 all of which have become effective January 1st of this year On January 26th, planning staff presented the proposed updated ADU ordinance to the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission's staff report included an analysis of the proposed updates and statutory changes to the city's current ADU regulations with relation to the recently adopted bills.

Following publication of the Planning Commission notice of hearing one public comment of opposition was received and after deliberation Planning Commission voted to recommend approval motion passed 4-0 vote with one commissioner absent Provided as a table summarizing what each new bill incorporates and alters from existing language. Assembly Bill 462's main provisions relate to disaster affected areas for which the governor of California has declared a state of emergency for. It allows for a detached ADU to receive a certificate of occupancy prior to their primary dwelling, as well as clarifying ADU approval processes within coastal zone jurisdictions which is not applicable to the city of Thousand Oaks.

Assembly Bill 1154 mainly alters existing JDU regulations, not only requiring owner occupancy when the JDU shares sanitation facilities with the primary dwelling. This also prohibits both ADUs and JDUs from short-term rentals as well as now exempting units of 500 square foot or smaller from parking requirements. Senate Bill 9 and Senate Bill 543 both require local jurisdictions to adopt an ADU ordinance and submit to HCD within 60 days of adoption.

Furthermore, Senate Bill 543 also clarifies the size limits to ADUs to be calculated based on interior livable space. Also revises the impact fee exemptions. Clarifies the combination of ADUs and JADUs on a single lot. And lastly establishes detailed application processing timelines and application and appeal procedures. The purpose of the proposed amendments to Article 45 are intended to provide updates to certain sections applicable to state law, improve readability by reorganizing the current structure of the ordinance as well as clearing areas of redundancy to improve clarity and consistency.

The next slides will delve into these changes. Pursuant to Senate Bill 543, Article 45 now incorporates a clarified ADU application and appeal process. Staff must now determine whether an application is complete within 15 days of submittal and 15 days of any resubmittal where the previous language had application processing to be completed within 30 days. Applicants are now provided a written appeal process if an application is deemed incomplete or denied.

The appeal must be submitted to the city within 10 days of issuance of the written appeal and is to be heard by the Planning Commission. And finally, the ordinance requires a written determination on the appeal to be issued within 60 days. Assembly Bill 1154 revises current standards of JADUs and as part of implementing that bill, staff did take the opportunity to reorganize how the JADU standards are presented in the Municipal Code. The code now reflects owner occupancy requirements if the unit were to have shared sanitation facilities and rather than having JAD requirements spread across multiple sections as in the current iteration The proposed ordinance consolidates all JDU development standards and requirements into a single dedicated section.

This reorganization does not expand or reduce development rights, its main purpose is to improve clarity and consistency with state law. Furthermore, the ordinance has also been restructured to improve readability and usability. Sections that may apply broadly to all ADUs have been moved earlier in the article. The purpose for this is to provide more context before the more detailed standards.

Before we finish this up, I do want to acknowledge that the proposed item supports City Council Goal A by promoting equitable and accessible municipal processes for all residents. It also advances goal B by reinforcing transparent responsive and accountable government governance practices. The item is also consistent with the Thousand Oaks General Plan promoting diversity of housing and the encouragement of housing for different ages and income.

lastly, it is staff's recommendation to the City Council to find that the item is exempt for the requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act pursuant to state law and To read in title only further reading to be waived. And if no objection introduce an ordinance approving municipal code amendment 2025 7 0 0 0 3 amending Title 9 chapter 4 of the Thousand Oaks Municipal Code While this concludes my presentation, I as well as staff are available to answer any questions. Thank you Council.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:11:28

Thank You Mr. Mateo. Any questions from council? Mr. Engler.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:11:34

Thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you for the presentation Mateo. The differentiation now of an interior space measurements as opposed to some other measurement can you explain that a little bit more to me

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:11:53

Yes, so the difference back then we were calculating the square footage which is based on exterior to exterior walls. We do have a definition of interior livable space which is just the bathrooms sanitation facilities living room and bedroom areas. So we're mostly now going to be referencing square footage maximums based on the gross floor area of the interior space

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:12:21

So before we are using the exterior wall so there wouldn't be as much livable space that we would measure by, therefore whatever CUNY or ADUs would be a little bit smaller. Is that the way it would work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:12:34

That is correct sir.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:12:36

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:12:41

Council Member Gutierrez.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:12:43

Thank you for the report. I have more clarifying questions, I understand that we're going through the update because this is the next change and it needs to be reflected in our ordinance but First just for context, how popular are ADUs in Thousand Oaks? Do we have an idea of how many the city has and again just for context for myself and maybe the public as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:13:14

Yes, of course. Thank you for that question council member I actually do have a record of all forgive me all the building permit issues dating back from 2021 So starting from 2021 we have a total of 59 and then it increased going by year 2022 We have 94 2023 we have 97 2024 we have 85 and 2025 87 I myself process a lot of the ADU applications here in the city of Thousand Oaks They are quite Homeowners really do appreciate that the state allowing easier process for them So we are seeing quite a large multitude of volume of 80 applications. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:13:58

Thank you so much, and it seems that it's not deterring people as you mentioned because there are some regulations that are making it easier but That is a constant growing number each year with that being said I wondered Because our community outreach was based on Just our regular notice for the planning commission, probably this hearing as well. We have the kind of the regular notifications and I appreciated the reorganization of the ADU section information and I really appreciated even the approach like a very educational approach of giving context first and then details Is that where we expect folks to be educated, while they're going actively through the process? Or did we do more to kind of bring folks along with these changes outside of the notices of these meetings.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:15:10

I'm sorry councilmember. Are you referring if? we asked public Input on this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:15:17

no more so giving outside of the notice meeting notices Do we update the? public in any other kind of way or is it, I'm sure our process is very tailored and informative. So are they getting that education real time?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:15:35

Matthew maybe I'll jump in here to help and then you can add on where I lead us awry. Councilmember Gutierrez, I think as the council knows and frankly because of this particular Agenda items a perfect example. This is a reflection of Continual changes to state law on ADUs you saw those numbers start in back in the early 2020s So we're seeing it being one of the number one areas that the state continues to change these regulations It creates a very challenging situation so if your resident and your processing an application these changes are hitting a several times a year.

And so our focus and our work with folks is really at the counter level, we have documents that we've created that help people to navigate through there. We've also spent time with the trades which is the architecture firms and those other groups. I can't stress this enough for the public trying to go it alone in this is not your best route. And that is because every property is different. So doing broad-based outreach on ADU's is difficult depending on your lot size or setback requirements you were Abutting open space or not abutting open space and those components as so it's very challenging We can give you general parameters, but with the laws changing several times a year every year and in fact this round of law has changed input deadlines in place to That ended at the end of the calendar year not even allowing cities to get to this place So that's why we're here before you now is kind of the quickest We could get prepared and ready to be here so we can assure we're in compliance But I from an outreach standpoint, we have materials that we've made available to folks and we continue to do that but Matthews my amazing at the counter able to sort of talk people like work people through this because that's really where Where it has to happen on a property-to-property basis.

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:17:26

Perfect, thank you so much. And then just lastly again just for my own clarity or clarification and understanding this impacts go forward applications but also current like kind of anyone that's currently being processed? Or does this backdate any or I just want to be clear

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:17:49

No council members, so whatever is currently in place no one's being delayed. So whatever his application is still being under review with the new legislation we're also reviewing them with the current standards plus the new legislation as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:18:05

Much appreciated thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:18:08

Council

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:18:08

Member Newman

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:18:13

Thank You Mayor and thank you for your presentation Just a quick follow-up on a point Council Member Gutierrez raised about the large number, dozens and growing dozens of ADUs each year. In addition to the absolute numbers isn't it also the case that these applications for ADUs represent the vast majority of all applications for housing in this city in the past few years?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:18:46

That is correct, Council Member Newman. So the ADU applications from what I can interpret we do see about on a day-to-day basis probably about 70% of them incoming are ADU applications and that is just on a day to day basis so yes those are the overwhelming applications that we receive.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:19:08

Yeah I think it's been over 90 percent at least one of those years and above 80 In the most recent report we had, we get an annual report I think every March from CDD on all housing activities. I think for 24 it was over 80 percent. I'll be curious to hear where we are with the 2025 report as well but you did mention it's a pretty substantial number of ADUs that were approved last year correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:19:40

That is correct Council Member Newman

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:19:43

Very good, thank you. Nothing more Mayor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:19:47

Thank you we do have one speaker tonight John if you want to come to the mic

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:19:58

Aloha City Council of Thousand Oaks how are you guys doing? Okay I'm gonna ask everybody a question here including the audience and the staff the staff and everybody If you believe That we should not violate our oath of office, raise your hand. Did everybody hear me including the city attorney? Everybody okay everybody keep your hands up guys come on okay it's very important now who here believes that we should protect and defend uphold the Constitution of the United States of America raise your hand Oh, come on you guys. Get those hands up. Come on this is important.

All right. You know I love you guys. All right. You guys all of us unknowingly or knowingly we are violating both and I'm going to explain why or I'm gonna explain how so regarding ADUs we've got Most neighborhoods have CC&Rs, which are Conditions, Covenants and Restrictions. I've spoken about this before. It may sound familiar but those CCRs are contracts between you and your neighbors and they're attached to your deed and they run with the land.

Those CCRs, Conditions, Covenants and Restrictions, are a contract between you and your neighbors So when you go and you buy your house, you think okay this is how my neighborhood is set up. I understand. I'll follow these rules. Now that contract we are being told by the state when we adopted Assembly Bill 670 that contract doesn't matter. It's superseded And I'm gonna read it. Now, let me go back a little bit. The U.S. Constitution, this is how this is being violated, the Constitution.

In Article 1, Section 10, it states about ten different things but it says no state shall pass a law which impairs the obligation of contracts and this is exactly what is happening with regard to ADUs. So, it says here in AB 670, and I'm just gonna read the parts that apply to this situation. It says any covenant restriction or condition also known as CCRs contained in any deed or contract in any provision of a governing document that effectively prohibits the construction or use of an accessory dwelling unit or junior accessory dwelling unit on a lot zone for single family residential use is void and unenforceable. So this law AB 670 is saying that those covenants, our CCNR's, our contracts that we have among our neighbors are not enforceable.

This directly goes against what the U.S. Constitution says in Article 1 Section 10 so we got to push back on this That's not right because if we continue to accept this in these cases, and this applies to CCRs. In most neighborhoods you have CCRs You may have an HOA, you may not but in both cases you're gonna most likely have CCRs. Very few homes don't have CCRs attached to the deed and you can do a search on your house and you can find out what it says if you don't already have a copy of that so if we continue to not pay attention to our law or federal U.S. constitutional Article 1 section 10, if we let this slip by and we just say well this little thing it's okay if we don't really you know do this thing.

You know we'll let that slide and then we adopt that law and we don' push back against the state. We kind of open the door for ourselves to do it again on other issues. It makes it easier each time you do it. So we got to be really careful about that. So I would really like it, we really need to go to the state and say hey we can't do this it's unconstitutional in this case. Now last time I spoke about this when we were doing an ADU municipal code update Mr. Adam you asked Miss Noonan the city attorney hey what's the likelihood we would win in a case against the state on this? Miss Noonan you said oh it's highly unlikely we would win Which is true at the first level of court. But if we appeal it and go above that, we would eventually win. So God bless you guys.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:25:09

Would staff like to respond to any public comments? Or the public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:25:17

Sure I can respond to that. So while it's true that state law does prohibit any CC&Rs that effectively prohibit ADUs, state law doesn't prohibit all such regulations. Right? So there is a way to have valid CC&RS that can regulate ADUs and so long as they don't effectively prohibit them they are lawful. Now having said that, it's my opinion that any litigation regarding whether or not that's constitutional and unconstitutional should be borne by the HOA or the person that is trying to enforce that regulation. I don't think that's a situation where the city should be spending public dollars to litigate that issue.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:26:14

Council have any additional questions for staff? Okay. I'm going to close the public hearing. Would anyone like to make a comment or motion? Mr. Adams.

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction2:26:28

Sure. Okay, appreciate the legal insight there about who challenges who when it comes to these, when it comes to the state of California. It's not like we haven't challenged the state on occasion and a lot of cities have and the results have been mixed at best I would have to say but what we're dealing with tonight is In my opinion, really just the continuation of bringing our general plan to life.

You know, it took us four years to make it happen. It's a 25-year blueprint for the future of Thousand Oaks and one of the things that says in the general plan is that we're gonna have housing for all income levels and a diversity of housing. And I have to say, putting aside the ADU issue for just a minute, I have to say the city of Thousand Oaks is a leader in the county if not the state in responding to the demand for housing. We all know that You know, it's been well publicized that there is a housing shortage in the state.

And we have through careful planning responded to that. We have multiple projects going up now as we speak. projects with great amenities that we're going to provide some necessary housing, hopefully for some of the young people in town. ADUs are just part of that I believe. Just part of the way to satisfy what we want to see done in our general plan. Are they the full answer? Probably not but they certainly are part of the answer and tonight you know I think tonight the gist of it is that the state ordinance, if you boil this down, is saying there can be an appeal process for an ADU and they're saying these junior ADUs don't necessarily have to be owner-occupied. They could be rented. So we're not talking about monumental changes here. ADUs are established in the state.

Every city has them. The legal ground shifts with these things, and we as the City of Thousand Oaks have to respond and change our ordinances in compliance. To fight them I think You had a good point, you know. It would be up to an HOA if they feel it incumbent upon themselves to try to overturn an ADU. I don't think they're gonna have much luck because ADUs are firmly established as a housing type here in the state of California. So with that little speech, I would move that we approve, where are we? 10-a.

10A, all the staff recommendations in 10A.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:29:29

All right, the one thing I'll say before we go to a vote. Number one, just looking at the data, I think it's pretty clear that the demand is there for our residents. The amount of permits they're pulling, it's obvious there. John and I have spoken about this issue before. We're going to sit down and speak more at length. You know, I think just to highlight the legal perspective Going against the state with taxpayer dollars, I am personally a little bit more risk adverse with that. I want to be very, very clear. I don't want to take a shot at something potentially gray but everything you said, I think everyone in this room agrees with so we appreciate you John every time you come here and you sharing and just how you speak to us thank you.

For that we can move to a vote

Roll-call vote Passed 4–0 move to a vote · 1 under review
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Councilmember Adam? Yes. Councilmember Newman? Councilmember Gutierrez? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Engler? Yes. And Mayor Taylor? Yes

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:30:39

and that motion passes five to zero and your ordinance title is an ordinance amending the Thousand Oaks Municipal Code relating to regulation of accessory dwelling units ADUs and junior accessory dwelling units JADU's updating Title 9 Chapter 4 Article 45 Accessory Dwelling Units to be consistent with state law MCA 2025-7003

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:31:04

Thank you, and now we move on to our second public hearing. Will the city clerk please open this?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:31:10

Hearing Advertises Required by Law is open to consider agenda item number 10B, Electrification and Energy Resiliency Projects at the Municipal Service Center. Speakers are requested to state their name and community of residence. One person has presented a speaker card and pursuant to council standards, the speaker is allowed five minutes. The yellow light displays when you have one minute remaining.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:31:34

Thank you. Presenting the item tonight is Deputy Public Works Director Ted Gerber.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:31:43

Good evening, Mayor Taylor and Councilmembers. Tonight we are presenting on multiple planned projects at the City's Municipal Service Center Focusing on energy resiliency and electrification of the city's transit and public works vehicle fleets. Joining me tonight is Public Works Director Nader Haidari, as well as many of our project team members together here in council chambers.

The City's Municipal Service Center is located at 1993 Rancho Conejo Boulevard in Newberry Park. And this facility is the city's primary maintenance and operation center for streets, landscaping, fleet services as well as water and wastewater collection services. It's also the home of all of Thousand Oaks transit bus and dial-a-ride vehicle storage, maintenance and fueling.

The MSC was constructed in 1993 expanded in 2013 along with the adjacent Household Hazardous Waste Facility, and in 2022 several solar canopy carports were constructed over the transit bus fueling area. Recently in 2025 Staff secured Federal Emergency Management Agency funding to construct an energy resiliency microgrid at this facility to support the continuation of city essential services in the event of a power outage.

A microgrid consisting of solar panel arrays, generators and large batteries enables electricity to be generated, stored and distributed onsite during such power outages. The FEMA funding involved is in addition to the federal and state transportation funding received to support transit bus electrification. The five capital improvement projects that make up this project include CI5710, which constructs electric vehicle charging equipment for city fleet vehicles as well as several chargers for facility visitors and the related CI-5760, which constructs a power backup system for those fleet chargers.

Similarly, CI-5473 constructs EV charging equipment for city transit vehicles and the related CI-5726 constructs a power backup system for those transit chargers. The fifth project, CI5585, constructs a microgrid and power backup system for the buildings and facilities at the MSC in order to support operations during a grid power outage. It's important to note that the California Air Resources Board's Innovative Clean Transit Regulation, which was adopted in December 2018, requires all public transit agencies to gradually transition to a 100% zero-emission bus fleet.

Beginning in 2029, 100% of new purchases by transit agencies must be zero emission with a goal for full transition by 2040. The initial scope of this project built separate components for each of these systems. However, through the negotiation of the design and build contract and conceptual system redesign working with city staff and supporting consultants our team scoped a more integrated system that delivers these elements together at a lower price which can be built in a phased approach.

Here is a depiction of the facility and the planned system components You'll notice a pair of battery energy storage systems and generators to support transit and fleet electric vehicle chargers, as well as building power backup which will be integrated with the facility's existing solar arrays. You also see fleet and transit electric vehicle chargers distributed through the campus which are a mix of level two and level three chargers.

The procurement method for this project differs from the traditional lowest bidder selection process used in most of the projects brought before you, where here the city is utilizing a section of the California government code that permits a best value procurement. Where one entity may both design and build the project. Tonight's public hearings for both this project and the following Lang Ranch pump station project, which we'll discuss in the next agenda item are intended to consider the award of design and build contracts through this energy services agreement provision in the government code.

Given that the contract award is to one entity that will design and build the project Our team worked with the city attorney's office to develop a more robust contract mechanism to utilize a design-build project delivery approach for this MSC electrification project and the Lang Ranch pump station project. There are energy conservation aspects and energy cost savings realized in the delivery of this project, which is a prerequisite of using this Energy Service Agreement procurement method In the case of this project, energy conservation and savings is a result of integrating the new system with the existing solar arrays and installing battery storage that can optimize the use of the on-site generated solar energy and lower priced grid energy.

In other words, we can increase the utilization of the generated solar power and store solar energy on site in the battery systems or store lower price energy at certain times of the day. In addition, the installation of electric vehicle chargers allows access to lower cost electrical power to fuel vehicles versus the more expensive petroleum-based fuels. Therefore, The first recommended action before council tonight is to adopt a resolution making certain findings required under government code section 4217 that the proposed energy services agreement will result in lower costs than if the project were not built and that the agreement is in the best interest of the city.

Four of the five CI projects were solicited together in an RFPQ issued last summer, where eight qualified proposals were received in the fall. Staff evaluated each proposal for numerous factors including qualifications, design creativity, cost payback period, project understanding, relevant experience and quality, and considerations in accordance with this government code.

Ravenvolt ABM was ultimately selected after this review process based on a wide variety of factors. Staff issued the RFP for the fifth CI5585 project also in July, with a reissuance in October and received two qualified proposals in the fall. Staff evaluated each proposal for numerous factors, again including qualifications, design creativity, cost, payback period, project understanding, relevant experience and quality, and considerations of the government code.

Ravenville ABM was ultimately selected after this review process based on a wide variety of factors. After the evaluations for these independent solicitations, where Ravenville ABM was selected for both, staff pursued a negotiated consolidation of the five CI projects with Ravenville ABM. Over the course of the past three months, staff extensively pursued this negotiation to optimize the project configuration and negotiate final pricing, which is one of the major advantages of utilizing design-build project methodology.

Optini, the project's Design and Project Management Consultant assisted with this effort as funded in part by the Clean Power Alliance. Here's the final cost for all five projects, as well as a project contingency and design and project management support services. Here's that same cost but broken down by how the project is funded. As you can see, more than half of the project is funded with Transit and FEMA grant funding.

This slide summarizes the project components including over 70 EV ports, two battery energy storage systems and generator systems as well as some of the project benefits In addition to the energy cost savings, the backup resiliency and the single point of responsibility for a design builder. Upon approval of this contract, preliminary design will start in March with construction completion expected late next year.

And lastly, this item relates directly to the City Council's top priorities as listed on this slide. The recommendations related to the item are included in the staff report and listed herein. Nodder and I, and some of our staff members who are here tonight, are available for any questions you may have. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Gerber. Any

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:41:54

questions from council? Mr. Engler.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:41:59

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Our municipal service center is very important to the city. It handles a lot of our public works or actually handles all of our public works pretty much. It's a critical infrastructure. In a PSPS will we be able to stand alone out at the MSC?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:42:22

That's correct. So part of this project is establishing what we call a microgrid, and so we'll both have the solar energy panels. We have the battery backup system to store energy and will also have generators on site So the electric vehicle fueling and the building systems and other facility components will be able to operate independently of the grid in a power shutoff for PSPS or any other sort of lost electricity.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:42:54

So earthquake, PSPS whatever the issue would be we'd be off the grid so to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:43:00

That's correct

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:43:04

I know it's difficult because we're really doing a couple, four or five different projects here. But the question always comes up is there a reasonable payoff period? And you mentioned that a couple of times as part of the consideration. Do you have an estimate of payoff periods on something like this?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:43:23

Generally we're looking at this as a 20-year life cycle. The interesting thing about this project is it's not just about the energy cost savings, It's also about the resiliency factor that it gives us, as you mentioned during a PSPS for example. And it's also to comply with the state's mandated to transition fleet and transit vehicles to electric vehicles. So in addition to the payoff for the investment there's also the added benefit for resiliency and the requirement to transition to electric vehicles.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:44:01

Yeah, that location where the MSC is out in the basically a wildland interface out in that area. Very important to be able to be off the grid because of the PSPSs happening all the time. But thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:44:18

Mr. Adams?

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction2:44:20

Oh, thank you Mayor. Yeah like Bob said the Municipal Service Center is a critical hub to keep the city running that's for sure and it definitely needs power I know about power we lost ours in the last storm but that was one house you know we're talking about an entire city here so one of the things that we're looking at is a fleet emergency generator battery storage that's for our service vehicles then right Like for example, are we just talking about passenger cars for staff or what kind of vehicles are we talking about?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:44:54

We're talking about passenger vehicles but we're also talking about the utility trucks. You know your light and medium duty vehicles that would be necessary for say a staff member to go out into the field during an event like that. We are designing the system so that it's scalable, so that when more heavy-duty electric vehicles are available on the market, it can also be utilized for that. That's in addition to the transit vehicles, you know your 35 foot buses, your smaller buses, your minivans that operate the dial ride program, also supported by this system.

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction2:45:35

Okay, got it. So we're talking about some of the very vehicles we would need during a power shutoff so we don't want those to be affected.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:45:48

That's absolutely

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction2:45:48

right. I got that, okay. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:45:51

you, good explanation. If I might add to that yeah a lot of these power events take place during high wind events etc and so we have lots of downed trees or other areas of town that we have to immediately respond to clear roadways and to address any other utility issues that might be going on so we have a fair amount of vehicles that do need to be deployed even in those circumstances and so this will allow us be able to be resilient and continue to operate and provide those services even when we have those events.

And this location, the circuit that serves the MSC is one of the frequent flyer circuits that seems to be affected more frequently than others in terms of being shut off of power happens multiple times a year

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction2:46:33

God, that makes total sense. Yeah I can see a call to the city hey there's a tree blocking the road oh sorry our vehicles won't start we'll be there in a couple of days no can't have that now the city is needs to be able to respond and having power is essential whether you know it's provided by Southern Calendula or not we need to generate on thanks councilmember

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:47:01

Newman

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:47:04

Thank you, Mayor and thank you Mr. Gerber for your report. There are certainly benefits to being resilient during PSPS events or other off-grid situations but my question is just everyday usage. Are there opportunities With the addition of these new battery storage systems to do load shifting where residents would realize cost savings because the renewable power that's stored during the day could then be used during peak hours in the early evening.

At a lower rate, or essentially a free rate because we're running off batteries instead of drawing power from the grid. Is that something that's saving? Something that would be made possible with the addition of these battery storage systems?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:48:00

That's absolutely right. We're not only taking advantage of the onsite generated power from the solar system, but also using the battery systems to optimize the grid energy that we do store at a lower cost. Now normal operations don't occur in the evening as much as our day operations, but your comments are completely valid in that there is an additional cost savings to optimizing the time of use of the battery.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:48:32

Great, so there would be a cost savings for whatever power and I take your point. It's not it's not peak usage perhaps for MSC but there's some power being drawn and that could be a cost saving there. And then as well, I would imagine it would also help offload the grid by reducing grid demand during peak hours as well correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:48:55

Yes that's a great point. That's correct

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:48:59

Great, well hopefully that would help in our little way contribute to fewer of these PSPS events. Appreciate that very much, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:49:10

Council Member Gutierrez?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:49:12

Thank you Mayor Taylor. I had some questions about the financial cost. There were a lot of numbers and I know we're grouping a lot of projects together but maybe The screen just moved too quickly and I couldn't capture it in the moment. But considering the substantial grant that is also being used and leveraged for all of this work, I just wanted to get more clarity on how Or maybe the strategy changed and that's why we're seeing a four million dollar kind of line item come about Again in in in tandem with such a significant grant And if I know that we do a two-year, but we forecast five year. Will we see that?

Are we like pulling from future years planned so that we can use the clause to get I wrote down lower cost, phased approach. I'm trying to piece it together in my mind as to where the line item got so hefty and I'm assuming it's the conglomerate of projects but I'd love your response on that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:50:29

That's a good question. So when these projects were individually budgeted, we had a sense of what it was going to cost to design and construct the project. Most of the cost of this project is the procurement of the equipment. You've got these very large generators, 350-400 kilowatt generators. Very large switchgear equipment. We've got dozens and dozens of electric vehicle chargers, and these batteries themselves as you can imagine are quite expensive. So one area where the cost, you see this cost increase is just the actual cost of that equipment as we're getting ready to finalize this contract and purchase it.

This project could have been much more expensive. In fact, our negotiation brought the cost down by millions of dollars on consolidating the equipment. When we initially envisioned the project, the transit and the fleet and the building systems were completely separate. With working with our designer consultants, we were actually able to integrate the systems and there will be a quite complicated computer integration system to basically load manage all those components so that we can actually shed a lot of the project costs and bring it down to what it is.

The majority of the project is grant funded. We're taking advantage of this almost $2 million FEMA grant. We were able to work with Cal OES and FEMA to extend the life of that grant, to see it through to the end of the project. And then we are taking advantage of some of the transit funding that's intended to realize zero emission transit buses. I hope that helps answer some of the questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:52:23

It did, it actually followed my train of thought as well because my follow-up question to that was in regards to the 2029 transition like how are we pacing and how far along will this project yeah how far long does that get us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:52:43

Yeah, so we are pasting that in two ways. First with this installation, we're doing what's called a make ready installation for some of the chargers. In other words, we're constructing all the underground components and we're leaving some places blank for lack of a better term So that, you know, within the next decade as more transit funding becomes available and we increase our electric vehicle count that we can add more chargers at less of the total cost of installing them from scratch.

phasing built into the project, as well as the vehicle phasing itself. So this year we bought or this past year we bought four smaller electric vehicle buses and we are working to procure the larger electric vehicle buses and so the timing of the delivery of this project would coincide with the first arrival of that electric fleet in addition to the fleet vehicles that were buying for the public works day-to-day operations And so this was all developed and conceived with a zero emission bus plan, and a fleet electrification plan that this is built on for both vehicle procurement and the infrastructure build out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:54:06

I guess I'm just being coy with my question. Does this put this up put us ahead of schedule? Will we be at a zero? emissions status in 2027 or shortly thereafter when once we receive the larger

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:54:22

This puts us on schedule, really. We won't be fully electric in 2027. We'll be prepared to start receiving electric vehicles and we will be prepared to comply with that 2029 and that 2040 date.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:54:39

I appreciate that. Thank you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:54:42

I just have one, I think quick question and it's more around the budget. Do we typically see change orders in a deal like this? And if so, I think we had a 5% contingency. Do we feel like a 5 percent contingency is healthy enough in case that is a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:54:58

potential outcome. So this is a unique project in that it's a design build so we haven't completely designed the project yet, so there is a potential for a change order but unlike a traditional project we've already worked with the design firm who has partnered with a known construction firm And we are probably at 15%, 20% design in that we know what equipment to buy. We can actually, as soon as this contract is approved, place the order for the equipment to take advantage of current pricing and receive that equipment on its normal lead time about 12 to 18 months.

Given that that is the bulk of the cost, we don't foresee a whole lot of change in the equipment purchase That 5% contingency is really designed so that when we start opening the ground at the MSC, if we have some unknown conditions, we can address it. But with regard to the cost of the design and the cost of the equipment which is the largest part of the project, we're fairly confident that we're gonna have a steady, we'll be on budget.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:56:06

Okay, thank you. That's all I had and we appreciate the presentation tonight Next we have I believe we have one speaker my Screen is down was the name Michael Steele. Is that correct? Is that the speaker? Okay, I'm gonna come to the Okay come to the lectern that's what it's called speaker podium alright

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:56:34

Okay, good evening round two. Thank you. So the program I heard is called Energy Resiliency, right? And so a couple of things that I saw up there was solar car ports, EV infrastructure and then I heard the word FEMA federal funds which means Fat Juicy Taxpayer Subsidies and so I wanted to take kind of a lead from Mikey there to be responsible with our taxpayer dollars, right?

And so I'm going to read an article for you guys that I found coincidentally today on the topic, but for those who somehow are not aware of this there are EV graveyards one specifically in Nevada of thousands of EV cars that they don't know what to do with because there's no way to recycle these cars. But before I get into all of that, the article is called Was Climate Change the Greatest Financial Scandal in History? It was an Epoch Times article. Came out February 19th and the writer is Stephen Moore.

Environmental scholar Bjorn Lomborg recently calculated that across the globe governments have spent at least 16 trillion dollars feeding the climate change industrial complex. And for what? Now before I continue going on, we have installed solar and EVs and all kinds of nutty projects in the state to save the planet. So that was the goal, and that I assume is what's still driving this initiative.

Continuing on in the argument. Arguably not a single life has been or will be saved by this shameful and colossal misallocation of human resources. The war on safe and abundant fossil fuels has cost countless lives in poor countries, and made those countries poorer by blocking affordable energy since the global warming crusade started some 30 years ago. By the way for those who don't know Bill Gates has walked away from the climate change nonsense which has changed over time from global warming to global cooling to climate change because they can't figure out their strategy The temperature of the planet has not been altered by one-tenth of a degree, as even the alarmists will admit.

In other words, $16 trillion has been spent. A lot of people got very rich off the government, largesse, but there is not a penny of measurable payoff. You asked about ROI, somebody in this direction. But it's much worse than that. In economics, there is a concept called opportunity cost. What could have been done with $16 trillion to make the world better off? What if the $16 trillion had been spent on clean water for poor countries, preventing avoidable deaths from disease such as malaria? Building schools in Africa villages to end illiteracy. Bringing reliable and affordable electric power to more than 1 billion people who still lack access. What about curing cancer? Anyways, many millions of lives could have been saved. We could have lifted millions more out of poverty.

The benefits of speeding up the race for the cure of cancer could have added tens of millions of additional years of life at an economic value in the tens of trillions of dollars. Instead we effectively poured 16 trillion dollars down the drain and for this reason it is important that we identify the Green Climate Change Derangement Syndrome as perhaps the most inhumane political movement In history, the one sliver of good news is that it appears the climate change neuroses have finally started to subside except in California. We seem to be slow to learn.

We've reached peak global warming craziness in the United States for sure and even Europe seems to have turned its back on its economically masochistic net-zero fossil fuel obsession. President Donald Trump is wisely and rapidly dismantling the climate change industrial complex Of all his pro-growth economic policies, there may be none with a higher long term payoff than his recent order to repeal the mother of all costly regulations, the antifossil fuels endangerment rule taxing carbon dioxide emissions. The cost of that regulation had been estimated to exceed $1 trillion over time and this gentleman here said that we might see an ROI in 20 years if we move forward with this project for California specifically in this area. That makes absolutely no sense as far as an ROI is concerned but it's mandated that we do this by the governor in the state of California.

Really? I would actually hope that our local council will grow a backbone and spine and honor our oath and constitution like John was talking about earlier. And one final point that I want to mention specifically, Mr. Adam regarding the prior vote that you guys all did five nothing on the housing shortage you mentioned well for those that I guess are not paying attention to anything happening in the world housing shortages due to a number of causes including burdens of over regulation caused by councils counties and the state and the state illegal immigrant occupants corporations buying up homes etc etc it is a manufactured shortage We don't need performative excuses from our council. We need backbone and actual leadership, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:01:40

Thank you. Would staff like to respond to public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:01:49

What I will say is that the FEMA grant that is providing some of the funding towards this project is what's called a Legislative Pre-Disaster Mitigation Grant, and it's designed to essentially put in infrastructure ahead of a disaster so that we can take advantage of the resiliency aspects at the MSC facility. With regard to the state regulatory components of the public commenter, Every municipality in the state is addressing the same advanced clean fleet rule and all transit agencies are also dealing with this ICT regulation. We're a small transit agency so we're not impacted as nearly as some of the other agencies across California are, but this is staff's best approach to addressing Fleet resiliency, facility resiliency while addressing the regulatory requirements upon us.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:03:06

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:03:06

you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:03:08

Any additional questions from Council? All right I'm going to close the public hearing now and would anyone like to make a comment or a motion? Mr. Engler.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed3:03:23

Yeah, first of comment and I know that this is a resiliency aspect of this is very important to me. I know that with my background any time that you don't have a couple of backup plans for energy you're asking for issues. To be able to have our Municipal Service Center which One of our vital pieces of response items would be like saying that we don't need fire or police.

NSC is one of our most important responders, especially when we have wind events or earthquake events. So the resiliency factor of doing this at the MSC is very important. And with that, I would say that I would move staff recommendations one through nine and urge a vote for yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:04:33

Anybody else? Mr. Adams.

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction3:04:37

Thank you Mayor. You know, we get elected to do a job and that's to keep the city running. And that's what we have before us tonight. I mean this is a practical vote and nothing beyond that. And I understand there's other issues bigger issues but tonight we're voting on some backup power Thank you. The cost in my mind is well justified by the fact that we can keep our fleet running in the event of a power outage. And these power outages are very inconvenient and can be life-threatening, in worst case.

So I'll support that motion.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:05:46

Mr. Newman, I don't see your hand up but I see your mute off. Is there anything you want to mention before we go to vote?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:05:53

Thank you, Mayor. Only that I agree with the comments that have been made. Resiliency is very important. Keeping the lights on is important for critical services above all and while we are getting some grant money on this, I think the FEMA grant was $1.8 million. This is a much larger project And we will be getting some of that money back in the form of cost savings by load shifting. So for all those reasons, I too support this motion. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:06:27

All right, we have a motion on the floor. City Clerk would you like to call the vote?

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Council Member Adam? Yes. Council Member Newman? Aye. Council Member Gutierrez? Yes Mayor Pro Tem Engler? Yes and Mayor Taylor? Yes

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:06:43

and that motion passes five to zero

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:06:50

All right, moving on to the last public hearing. Will City Clerk please open this hearing?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:06:55

Hearing advertised as required by law is open to consider agenda item number 10C power backup at the Lang Ranch Pump Station CI 5702 there are no speakers for this item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:07:07

Thank you and presenting the item tonight is Associate Engineer Clark Stanpill

PresenterClark StanfillPublic Works DepartmentProposedself-stated3:07:13

Mr. Stanpill Awesome. Good evening, Mayor Taylor and City Council members. My name is Clark Stanfill and I'm an Associate Engineer with the Public Works Department. Also joining me tonight is Nader Haidari, Public Works Director, and Ted Gerber, the City Engineer. I want to thank you for allowing us to present The Power Backup at Lang Ranch Pump Station Project This project will be located at the Lang Ranch Pump Station, which is in the northeastern portion of the city just south of Sunset Hills Boulevard and east of Herbs Road.

Sorry. For some background about the site, the Lang Ranch Reservoir & Pump Station was built in 1977 and provides water to both Oak Brook and Sunset No. 3 reservoirs. and serves approximately 2,167 properties which is more than 10% of all the city's water customers. The city has made various upgrades throughout the years at this site including improvements to the electrical system new roof over the electrical room and a canopy over outdoor equipment to improve the sites fire resiliency Staff applied for and received a legislative pre-disaster mitigation grant, or LPDM from FEMA of about $1.38 million in September of 2025.

Utilizing the simplified procurement process for energy projects, the city developed a request for proposals for a design build contract. So the purpose of the LPDM grant is for local agencies to implement sustainable, cost-effective measures designed to reduce their risk to individuals and property from future natural hazards which is what this project will achieve.

This project is proposing to install a battery energy storage system or a BESS and a backup diesel generator to create a microgrid at the Lang Range pump station. This will ensure that during power outages, like the ones caused by public safety power shutoffs or natural disasters, the Lang Ranch Pump Station will be able to operate off-grid ensuring uninterrupted supply of water to the residents and firefighters.

Here we show the preliminary layout at this facility, which depicts the location of the new switchboard, BESS and backup diesel generator. The equipment location is being proposed near their existing electrical room minimizing additional trenching. On November 14th 2025, the city issued a request for proposal for the project and received four qualified proposals on January 8th 2026.

Staff evaluated the proposals for numerous factors, including qualifications, creativity, cost, project understanding and approach, and relevant experience. Gridscape Solution Inc was selected after the review process based on the quality of their proposal along with the factors mentioned previously. Similar to the presentation brought to you earlier this evening, Ted went into the details of Government Code 4217 which applies to this project as well. In this project we will utilize the BESS to provide cost savings by optimizing the use of its stored energy.

Therefore the first recommended action before council tonight is to adopt a resolution making certain findings required under government code section 42 17 that the proposed energy services agreement will result in lower cost than if the project were not built and That the agreement is in the best interest of the city Here we can see the cost breakdown of the project. The design will be $115,000. Early procurement will be about $1.4 million and construction will be about $676,000 with the total cost of the project coming in at $2,439,000 which includes the 1.38 million of grant funding.

Once complete, this project will give the city the ability to run this pump station off the grid during power shutoffs increasing the resiliency of the water supply to residents and firefighters as well as offsetting costly energy prices at peak hours. The project is expected to be finished with design this summer with construction starting this fall of 2026.

The project will be complete in the summer of 2027 Since we have a FEMA deadline to complete this project by September of 2027 and the generator, switchboards and bests have long lead times. We plan to order the equipment prior to construction starting in order to meet our grant completion date. Our recommendations for tonight are in the staff report but in summary they are to award the design build contract to Gridscape Solutions Inc for the power backup project at the Lang Ranch pump station.

And with that, I wanna thank you and we are available for questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:12:19

Thank you Mr.

PresenterClark StanfillPublic Works DepartmentProposedself-stated3:12:19

Samfill.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:12:20

Any questions from council? Council Member Newman not seeing any.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:12:29

No questions Mayor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:12:31

All right and we have no speakers? Okay would nope. I'm gonna close the hearing oh you have a okay good Let me close it first and then we'll move over. Okay, so I'll now close this public hearing Now would anybody like to make a comment or emotion? Mr. Adams

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction3:12:52

Yeah The times have changed We can't take power for granted like we used to you know these power shutoffs because are becoming more and more common and when it comes to water It's so important we keep these pump stations running, not just for single family homes but for firefighters as well. So to me this is an essential investment and this is the sign of a successful city.

We plan, we respond to the present and we plan for the future. And this does both. So this is important and I will move that we approve... Where are we Mayor? 10C? We're on 10C. 10C

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed3:13:44

All right, Mr. Engler? Just a quick comment and an agreement. This is just a straight up resiliency action. That area of town, Lang Ranch area, Sunset Hills area has been the focal point of the last two large fires that came toward town. That pump station and the pump supply water supply to that area is vital For the defense of our of our area to say nothing of just a regular PSPS But if that if fire does revisit us through that area this pump station is vital To have basically now grid supplied battery supplied and fossil fuel with a diesel generator gives us a Three three deep in resiliency. So this this is a straight straight resiliency project well needed for that area

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:14:48

Mr. Newman

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:14:52

Thank You mayor in 2017 the Thomas fire struck the city of Ventura and caused more than $2 billion in property damage and destroyed more than 1,000 structures. In large part because fire took out the pumping stations and the fire department couldn't pump water. So there's nothing more critical during a wildfire as Council Member Engler, Mayor Pro Tem Engler has noted. There is nothing more critical than the ability to pump water in a high-risk zone and as Mayor Pro Tem Engler noted This is a high risk, very high risk zone.

More than 70% of our city is in a very high risk zone. Another 6%, give or take, is in a high-risk zone but this is part of the very high part so I think it's absolutely critical that we have as much resiliency as possible and that Heaven forbid there is another fire, but if there is one and we do lose grid power, we continue to be able to pump water no matter what. So I too am happy to support this measure. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:16:09

Thank you and I'll just say this really quickly. Palisades, after Palisades happened we got so many calls from residents really just asking could that happen to us? Are we prepared in case there is a fire? Is there a scenario where there's no water? And right after that myself and at the time Mayor Newman went out to D.C. and we started lobbying for efforts to help create a more Resilient community so that if there is a fire we could you know, hopefully fight it with as Limited damage as possible seeing that. We already got here this fast and this is coming online I think this is a great move. So I just want to compliment Leadership and staff to getting this done quickly and putting it into Putting it online so that when the next fire unfortunately breaks out here were you know, the best equipped to handle it So I will also support the motion now that we have the motion on the floor Well, the city clerk prepares for a vote

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Council member Adam yes councilmember Newman. I councilmember Gutierrez yes mayor pro tem angler yes and mayor Taylor yes
UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role3:17:18

and that motion passes 5 to 0.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:17:25

All right, next is the City Manager Announcements. Mr. Powers,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed3:17:29

what do we have? Thank you Mayor Taylor. Before I call out our next meeting, I did want to take a brief moment to introduce the Council and the community to the newest member of our city's executive team, the city's first Chief Technology Officer. Anthony Moore has come and joined our team. He's been with us for less than a month now, getting his feet wet. He comes with us with a tremendous pedigree working in public institutions throughout Southern California and he has worked on the state level mentoring up-and-coming leaders in the technology space and we're extremely lucky to have him come join our team as the council knows is part of the information technology strategic plan and transitioning our IT folks into a standalone department to represent the significance of our investment in that space.

Anthony's the right leader at the right moment I wanted to invite him just to share a couple words with you really quickly

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed3:18:36

Hi Mayor, City Council Members. Thank you I appreciate it. You know in my career I've worked since graduating from college a long time ago started out as a public school teacher and then through some private industry, then government higher ed and here. And I would say that, I mean, well, I've been here three weeks now but I think that this is probably the best place I've worked.

You got something special going on here. I think that comes from you all as the mayor and the council members and the City management on down and so I'm just glad to be to be part of it. So Really excited to help move along the IT department and work with all of you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:19:26

We're

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed3:19:27

happy

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:19:27

to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed3:19:28

have you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:19:28

thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed3:19:30

Any other announcements for you? Appreciate it, Anthony. We will be back here two weeks from tonight on the 10th of March. A couple of special presentations set, Donate For Life Month and our One City One Book program announcement. I have a public hearing following on the Planning Commission item last night which will be a request by Latigo Group for an amendment to their development agreement for residential project.

And we'll have a department report for our annual housing element general plan progress report. And that'll be on the tenth of March. All right, good night everybody.

CommentMilo WagnerProposed · by introduction3:20:02

Mayor. Oops, go ahead. With your indulgence just a quick final council member comment about our relationship with Sacramento. Just briefly we are not silent in our relationship with Sacramento believe me. We have a legislative arm that analyzes dozens of assembly bill proposed assembly and Senate bills Our mayor signs these very intricate, well thought out letters and they go up to Sacramento and I know they're listened to. And I signed a lot of them myself and if it helps Thousand Oaks we'd like to approve. If it's an overreach We oppose.

And I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I think we probably oppose more than we approve because Sacramento and our city sometimes disagree on things. But we're not silent is my point and a lot of these letters go up and I'm sure other cities do as well so just want to make that clear. Thank you for your indulgence Mayor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:21:15

Thank you for that, Al. All right, we will see everybody next council meeting. Good night, Thousand Oaks.