BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 April 14, 2026

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:44

Okay. We will now call to order the City Council meeting. Will the city clerk please call the roll?

Roll call, called by City Clerk
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Councilmember Adam here. Councilmember Newman here council member Gutierrez Here mayor pro tem Engler here and Mayor Taylor here

Next is closed session miss noon, and we please announce tonight's closed session

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:06

Yes, thank you Mayor Taylor. We have three closed sessions tonight. The first two are pending litigation pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9a. First one is Robinson versus City of Thousand Oaks and the second one is Keys versus City of Thousand Oaks. And the last closed session is regarding real property negotiations pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.8 regarding property 1868 Teal Boulevard.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:31

Thank you. And we have no speakers on this item, so we will go into closed session now and we will see you in an hour. ♪ You. You. you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:35

All right, we are back from closed session. Ms. Noonan do we have anything to report?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:40

Nothing to report. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:41

thank you if you are able can you please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? Right hand over your heart ready begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty All right, next we have a special presentation. So I'm gonna go up to the podium just give me one second. All right, our presentation this evening is to proclaim this week as Crossing Guard Appreciation Week. I'm pleased this evening to welcome Paul Weinstein, Associate Analyst for the City's Public Works Department.

Where's Paul? There you go. Please join me. Paul oversees the administration of the City's Crossing Guard Program, which has been contracted to all city management services. Paul is going to provide brief comments on the program and recognize the excellent work of the crossing guards who help our children and adults cross some busy intersections throughout Thousand Oaks each year. Paul?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:03:21

Thank you Mayor. Good evening Council and thank you for the opportunity to share a few brief remarks about the City's Crossing Guard program. The city has been operating and funding the program since 1964. The city's program currently supports pedestrians at 14 school intersections across our community. Pursuant to council direction on July 8th, 2025, the program's crossing guard services are now contracted through All-City Management Services.

This new partnership ensures that we have trained crossing guards present at their assigned locations, supporting safe routes to and from school and assisting students and families in navigating busy school intersections. Staff will continue to promote walking to school through our robust public outreach, which provides tools to help residents increase walking and biking to school.

The City of Thousand Oaks appreciates the crossing guards and the team at All-City Management Services for providing excellent service to our community. Thank you that concludes my remarks

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:32

Thank you. And now I'm going to invite the crossing guards up and I am going to give you guys this awesome proclamation, say thank you because number one an organization is only as strong as the team that we have and we have an excellent team here. Can I invite my council up as well? Can we take a photo with thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:05:08

We're going to go this way.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:06

And as you can see, our skill set is not managing traffic. Next up we have public comments. Will the City Clerk please announce the comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:06:16

This is the time and place for public comments. Speakers are requested to state their name and community of residence for the record. Seven individuals have requested to speak and pursuant to Council standards speakers are allowed three minutes. The yellow light displays when you have one minute remaining.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:32

Thank you. I'm going to call all in-person speakers first and then, I don't see any for Zoom for this one so first up is going to be Randy Elzinga

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:06:59

Good evening Honorable City Council, council staff and audience. I want to respectfully correct the record regarding a claim made during the March 24th meeting concerning the constitutionality of displaying the national motto, In God We Trust within this chamber. At that meeting, a woman named Ina asserted that such displays are not supported by case law. This assertion is inaccurate. Prior to 2022, the courts applied the Lemon Test which was established in Lemon versus Kurtzman case in 1971 which required government actions to satisfy three prongs.

Number one, a secular legislative purpose. Number two, a primary effect that neither advances nor inhibits religion and number three no excessive government entanglement with religion However, in June of 2022 the U.S. Supreme Court effectively retired the lemon test in Kennedy versus Bremerton School District and that was the court now evaluates government actions under the framework of historical practices and understandings.

Under this standard long-standing traditions including the display of In God We Trust are more likely to be upheld as constitutional. To illustrate this point, consider the following historical presidents. In 1800 when Congress moved into the newly completed U.S. Capitol one of its first acts was to designate the House of Representatives as a church chamber.

It later became the largest church in Washington D.C., and one of the largest in the nation. The second one, just three days after establishing the first paid congressional chaplaincy. The first Congress approved the First Amendment including the establishment clause demonstrating that prayer and religious acknowledgement were not seen as incompatible with constitutional governance.

And in February of 1961, President John F. Kennedy stated the guiding principle and prayer of this nation has been is now and shall ever be in God we trust. These examples reflect enduring American traditions not religious coercion And are consistent with the court's current jurisprudence. I respectfully urge the council to consider this historical and legal context as you deliberate on this matter. I thank you for your time, service and commitment to the community.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:09:49

Next up we have Gina Marcoccio

CommentGina Marcaccio CagleProposedself-stated1:10:08

Good evening, Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council. My name is Gina Marcaccio Cagle. We moved here about 10 years ago from L.A. County. We escaped after being broken into five times at our beautiful home in Granada Hills. I had Devonshire Division on speed dial so we are so happy to be in a safe neighborhood in Dos Vientos. But tonight I wanted to remind you, if I may, that we're quickly approaching our nation's 250th birthday and we are given a rare and powerful opportunity not just to celebrate our past but to strengthen the spirit of our community.

I'm hoping fireworks and parades bring neighbors together through local events that will inspire community pride, unity and gratitude. Let's pass on tradition folks in Thousand Oaks will remember because we live in a great safe city and I'd love to see in God we trust up above there. Thank you for your time

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:11:16

All right, next up we have Anne and then following Anne will be Scarlett.

CommentAnne MarieProposedself-stated1:11:38

I'm so sorry, I don't hear perfectly well but good to see all of you. Thank you for your time. I'm Anne Marie and I'm from Thousand Oaks. I am a long-time resident Our country is celebrating its 250th birthday as a constitutional nation, guided by its founding documents based on godly and biblical principles and moral values. These values have kept our nation pointed towards the freedoms and liberties we hold so dear including freedom of speech and the others listed in the Bill of Rights.

This July 4th, we have a unique opportunity to celebrate as a nation and in our local city of Thousand Oaks the monumental milestone we have reached in becoming 250 years old. A milestone no other constitution has achieved in the world. A simple Google search will show you that special celebrations are already planned across the Southland. These include Huntington Beach having a large parade, the largest Independence Day Parade west of the Mississippi, a plaza festival, a 5k run and so on. Los Angeles is having a major July 4th block party event and many local community celebrations Torrance is having the City Council officially declared 2026 as the 250th anniversary year of the nation.

Oceanside is having a community festival, Paso Robles is having another community festival filled with businesses and services of their community. So how are we going to celebrate as beautiful Thousand Oaks? I understand Conejo Parks and Rec is working with the city to add special enhancements to make our community celebration special, including extra music nights, family-friendly events including a three-legged race etc. That is wonderful!

What if we decorated Thousand Oaks Boulevard with patriotic banners on the light posts? These details can boost our community's pride and morale and spirit as Americans, and also as residents of Thousand Oaks. They would take more pride in their city. I would like to also consider maybe t-shirts, maybe posters. Things that get people excited about this monumental occasion.

I would love to help with this project. I'm happy to offer my time and ideas if the city would like my support. I am fully aware that the majority of our community residents will also attend and support the celebration. Thank you for honoring this milestone that is so important and valued by the community. Thank you for your time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:14:29

Hello council, I am Scarlett of Thousand Oaks. Thank you for your time this evening. So is the picture up? Can y'all see it? Okay so I wanted to let you all know that this is my dad and that's his dog Spot and yes and that wagon, is that Americana or what? So my dad grew up in Tennessee, in poverty. No running water, no electricity until the age of 16 and with the opportunities afforded in America he went to high school, he went to trade school, he became an auto mechanic, he migrated to Michigan and found a job working as a mechanic for the City of Warren Police Department And through that, he was able to make a way for our family. So again with the blessings of liberty that flow within America and working hard and working smart, he was able to go from poverty to flourishing in the suburbs.

I wanted to take my children on a pilgrimage to Tennessee to see where my mom and dad grew up When we got to town, so after this one I've got one more picture for you. When we got into the city, much to my surprise, I show up at my dad's hometown of Baxter top left there and what do I see on the City Hall? To my surprise, in God We Trust our national motto, I go to my mom's home city of Cookville Tennessee And on that city hall, on all four sides is our national motto. Interestingly my grandfather served in elected office in that very building so I wanted to share that and let you know Those are my boys in this photo, and that's the city I grew up in. And that is the City of Warren.

And I take my boys there every year, and every year of their lives have taken a picture of them in front of that sign at the City Hall established 1957. Now recently I was going through my mom's China cabinet, and I came across this memento from 1976, the Bicentennial. This was issued out by the City of Warren and it says Bicentennial 76, Warren Michigan. On the other side is the city seal flanked on each side by the date of established year to 1976. I could see something like this doesn't have to be glass But commemorative items by the City of Thousand Oaks have that 250th, you know, supercentennial Thousand Oaks seal.

We were established 1964 and then put 2026 on there. Sound great? Thanks guys!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:17:39

Thank you. Next up will be Scott Horn.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:18:10

Hello City Council, staff and people of the Conejo Valley. I'm here representing Mother Earth, not figuratively but the idea of Arbor Earth Day and the Thousand Oaks celebration that will be happening on Saturday. I'm a member of the Organic Garden Club of Ventura County we'll have a booth there and i know that uh... the city is big on this and we thank you for producing um... this event and i wanted also mention that uh... the organic garden club will have a booth at this event it will be uh... giving away plants in and celebrating all things natural and it's going to be Pretty darn nice, we've got great weather right now. They're predicting that Saturday will probably be the best day of the week. I also wanted to point out that Thousand Oaks' own John Brooks from the Sustainability Department...

will be at that event and he's also going to be our featured speaker at the Organic Garden Club meeting next Tuesday, the 18th. It'll be in the Thousand Oaks, excuse me, the Newbury Park Library from six to eight o'clock so if you want to see John's sustainability current spiel, he'll be out there for us and I'd like to invite everybody there You can probably get some free plants, something great that'll make your house better and all of us celebrating nature like we should be doing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:19:31

Thanks Scott. Next up is Michael Steele and then following and finishing will be Heather Hamilton

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:20:23

Good evening City Council, Mayor Taylor, everyone else in the audience. So I'm here tonight and there should be a document in front of you, 89 Traders to California. The reason I thought it was important to share this with you, I believe Andrew Powers saw this a little while back as I shared it with Jackie Irwin at one of her street side sessions and the reason I'm bringing this up today is because Jackie Irwin is a politician I'm not a fan of. I typically call her snake in the grass, in public and I don't want that for any of our current or future politicians in this state. And so understanding perspective of our actions and what they appear on this side I think is very important as citizens we need to show up as a mirror and help You in the seats understand how we are seeing things.

And so a couple weeks back, we talked about the solar panel programs and the EV programs that were getting a bunch of money to get installed for the city. And the reason why I'm sharing this is because somebody earlier in that meeting had asked if all of you are aware of your oath and had sworn to defend that constitution. Some of you raised your hand, some of you didn't, you were reticent. And so if you notice on the very beginning here, violating the First Amendment and their election of duty and their oath of office. So that may or may not have come as a something that Jackie Irwin was aware of when she signed the bill that's within this packet which is AB 2098 which silenced doctors during COVID to express their opinion. That's obviously the first amendment protected but it didn't get rescinded until the following year due to a lot of pressure.

And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because it went not publicized, but Newsom took credit for saying that should have never passed as legislation. But he signed his name to it, right? So that was spoke to him being comfortable with signing something and then hoping that nobody was going to pay attention. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because the solar and the EV investments were a bad bet. There was an article back in March that literally, the headline says bad bets, massive EV subsidies not paying off. I'm going to try to get this done in less than 60 seconds. We know that there were federal commitments in the tunes of billions of dollars to these programs, to try to push them across America. States jumped in to the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars to push these programs through.

Lots of reasons to continue moving forward. I encourage everyone if you're going to continue to get involved in these programs to do a lot of due diligence because there's a lot on both sides. The wrong incentives were part of what moved these things. Specifically, there are a lot of backers who have not only argued for the environmental benefits of EVs but have also cast them as an economic boon that will create jobs and save consumers tons of money. Less than 20 seconds left.

Stellantis announced losing $26 billion on their EV business. Ford has never been able to entice buyers to its electric EV F-150. Who is it? And they will absorb $10 billion. Honda, $5 billion. GM, $7.6 billion. Volkswagen, $180 billion spent on a failed program. And I've used up my time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:32

Thank you. Last up is Heather Hamilton

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:23:49

Hi, I'm Heather. As of April 13th in the 805 Area Code, 1,839 people have been taken and placed in detention centers. 839 from Ventura County, 49 from Thousand Oaks and 19 from Newberry Park. And I already know how this goes. Someone's gonna clip me, they'll put this online and I get really lovely comments that my teenagers get to see about me. It's interesting because the people who say the harshest things about other human beings Often have a Bible verse in their bio and a flag on their page, etc.

And there's the other side, the people who leave really nice comments, who care, and I would call them the love your naval type people. So I came here and I'm like okay how do I say something that matters? So I'm going to be a time traveler. And I'm going to imagine 20 years from now when I'm sitting with little children who have no clue what time frame they've been born into. Kids that have no idea about social media or anything else and these kids are gonna ask us, what were you doing when people were placed in detention centers?

What were you doing when people were talked about like they didn't matter? What were you doing when you saw that people were sleeping on the floors, under bright lights 24 hours a day in conditions none of us in this room would accept. None of us. So I came here tonight to make sure I had that answer and to put it on the record, that I saw it. And I said something because history shows us that there is a right side of history and if there's a right side, there was a wrong side. And anytime we choose policy over humanity, any time we start talking about people like they are less than human, there is always a reckoning.

And when the institutions that are supposed to guide us, our government and our faith communities, when we lose trust things start to unravel. And it makes me think about Diedrich Bonhoeffer. He is someone who lived through a time when people had to decide where they stood and history became very clear about who got it right and who got it wrong. So I just want this on the record so when my kids can see it and all the mean haters come into my comments That I stood on the side that did not ignore human suffering.

That's a side that doesn't dehumanize people. And the side that remembers that dignity isn't something you earn, it's something you are given by simply being a human. And I know people disagree and I know this is emotional. It is for me but history has a way of telling the truth so I'm putting on the record that I chose and I saw humanity and I am not alone there's a lot of good people who see it too And at the end of the day, these are all human beings and that they matter. And we should not be treating people the way we are treating people. There is a better way.

We can... Anyway, that's it. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:26:44

Thank you Heather. Does City Manager have any comments? On the public comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:26:53

Just very quickly for those wanting to track along teoaks.gov slash 250 is where we are putting in an ever-evolving list of activities that are taking shape there one of the big areas we're drawing emphasis to is our block party permit opportunities there which is really a nationwide effort to encourage more neighborhood block parties we have our process up they're very nominal fee for that along with all of our activities including our Big Fireworks celebration and will be more to come in the months ahead

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:21

All right, next up is the consent calendar. Does anyone have any questions or anyone like to pull any items? Mr. Newman

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:27:30

Thank You mayor I'd like to pull item 9f

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:34

9

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:27:35

9 F as in Foxtrot

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:37

all right ask a couple of questions sounds good does anybody want a motion to move the remainder?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:27:43

Mr.. Mayor we do have three speakers on this item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:45

Take it before.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:27:46

Yes,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:47

let's do that. All right next up we have three speakers So first up will be Jackson Piper And is Jackson Piper in person today?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:27:57

He's on zoom.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:58

He's on zoom. Okay,

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:27:59

not no tape that I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:28:00

Jackson, I didn't see the Z and got excited that I might be seeing you in person today.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:28:04

Sorry not today because of work. Someday. Someday definitely. I'm here to speak on item H in the consent calendar so I don't know if you wanted to have me speak now or later on? Go ahead you can go now. Okay thank you very much Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council you know me I'm always here speaking on housing issues and well, I understand that this is a done deal some kind of commenting after the fact.

And I understand that the City wants to maintain quality control over its projects happening within the city. I absolutely agree with the City having some control over the design elements of the projects. I did want to bring up the idea of how this may impact affordability and the production of affordable housing in Thousand Oaks in the future, If this becomes a trend, so as you all I'm sure know it takes multiple years to run a project through from its approval stage to its actual completion stage where it's ready to.

Basically to be inhabited by the new residents that are going to call it home. This is true for market rate housing, luxury housing and affordable housing as well unfortunately because we absolutely need affordable housing more than anything else. So I got a little concerned seeing the City Council Appeared a wave off the concerns from the developer, which I think should be substantiated before any.

Decision would be made in the future, but the claims that. The financing for the project could potentially be in jeopardy if council chose to deny these requests to change materials and features on the buildings. I do, like I said before, think design is very important. But I think there's a different level of importance to design elements that create a sort of nice aesthetic environment for the city Versus affordable housing production and the delivery of affordable housing within the city.

So I'm asking you for the future to really weigh those considerations is. The denial of requests to reduce the cost of a project by lowering some of the quality of the design elements going to inadvertently cause affordable housing that would have been built, to not be built in the city. Are we going to end up with a crater instead of actual homes that people need? Is it gonna sit empty like the Kmart site did for so long? So please consider those items and with that I'll leave it for now. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:31:09

Thank you, Jackson. And next up will be Karen Wilburn.

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CommentKaren WilburnProposedself-stated1:31:27

Good evening Mayor, Council, staff. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak I'm Karen Wilburn from Newberry Park and I'm here to speak on item F I have some concerns and questions about the floodplain study that I'm hoping can be clarified The original $262,000 study was expected to be completed by the spring of 2024. I kept following up with the city and Then I was told it was going to be ready by the spring of 2025, then the fall of 2025. Then into 2026 and now we're moving it to June 2027 three years later than it was expected.

I honestly mean no disrespect to staff, but I would like some clarity on how the cost and delivery time were so underestimated. Did this arise because of preliminary findings? Uncovered more work to be done? Have there been any preliminary findings? Can anything be released to the public as far as where we're at with this? The staff report also mentioned several property owners have contacted staff regarding expected outcomes and a peer review of the study model was ordered in 2025. Now, the wording in the staff report seems to imply that peer review was a result of these inquiries. I'd just like some clarity on this. Maybe it was just poor wording in the staff report and I wonder if any property owners actually questioned the manner in which the study was being conducted?

Last, I'd still like a little bit of clarity on what areas of deficiencies we're studying. Is the study also expected to cover deficiencies in the city storm drain system that the Army Corps of Engineers seem to think might have included the flood or made the flood problem more. If it's just the flood channel that we're looking at, the deficiencies, why is the city taking a lead on this? Isn't this something that the county and the Watershed Protection District should be taking the lead on? So those are just some of my thoughts and I thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:33:39

All right. Next up we have Scott Horn.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:33:54

It's two for Tuesday. I'm back my name is Scott Horn, I'm a resident of Newbury Park and I'm also speaking about the South Branch Arroyo Canterford floodplain improvement project which your consent agenda asked for another $215,000 more bringing it up nearly to half a million dollars now trying to Talk tech on this, I'm not. But I will talk about what this is. This is the creek that runs right through Newbury Park, right through my neighborhood. It's subdivided in half and it involves the people whose houses are in the floodplain and involves the flood control.

The city doesn't even have anyone employed as flood control, I don't think. And I kind of get the same sort of a feel like what's going on here? But the point I'm trying to make is that this does seem like it's a county issue more than anything. Why are we leading on this and I'd kind of like this to be brought out a bit more to understand what's going on here.

Karen brought up good points about the timing. I know things sometimes take longer, but the idea that The Watershed Protection District should be taking the lead on this especially now that it's Like twice as much money as it was before and twice as long Be nice to understand what's going on here? So I'm thanking you for your time and I'm gonna say Hope to hear back on this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:24

Thank you. So why don't we do this? Do you want to respond to any of the comments and then we can move the remainder and then we could talk about that Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:35:32

just only thing I was gonna speak on was they just the response regarding the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:37

okay, so then let's start Why don't we move it some will somebody give me a motion or move the remainder Mr. Adams, can we get a vote on that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:35:54

Just for clarity on the matter associated with the Hollycrest project, staff's been working since the day after the original council hearing with the applicant. We anticipate that that applicant may actually pull permits this week so positive news that project is moving actively forward

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:36:14

And that motion passes and your ordinance title is an Ordinance Amending Thousand Oaks Municipal Code Relating to Regulation of Commercial Filming in the City Repealing and Replacing Title IV, Chapter 8, Ordinance Number 1748-NS. Okay

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:36:28

thank you and now I'll give the floor to Mr. Newman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:36:31

Thank You Mr. Mayor. I do have a couple questions one is echoing questions that were already asked in public comment We have a different government altogether, different agency. The Ventura County Watershed Protection District that is responsible for flood control. That's what they do. They look after the flood plain that goes through Newberry Park and the city does not because this other government does that.

So given that, my question is why is the city paying one penny for something that is the responsibility of a different government? Why are we expending anything on this project?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:37:21

Good evening, Councilmember Newman. In regards to your initial question there about the city's involvement in the project, most of the homes along the area that is being studied are city residents. And the purpose of this study at this phase of this project is to study the local drainage systems, as well as the watershed as a whole. To see what improvements can be done potentially to lower the amount of homes that are currently having to pay flood insurance, If the FEMA maps which are currently in existence are accurate or if they were inaccurately drawn by FEMA, which has the potential of ensnaring more properties into the floodplain and requiring homeowners to pay flood insurance beyond what really should be done based on the actual modeling.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:38:26

If the study finds that there are some sort of physical improvements needed on city side, not beyond the WPD territory as it were. Would that put the city in the flood protection business? Say if the study says a box culvert should go over here would the city then also be doing what WPD is currently doing?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:38:58

Well the city currently has an extensive storm drain system. The Watershed Protection District handles the larger and more, you know, the largest infrastructure that passes through including the South Branch Channel itself but the majority of the storm drain system in Thousand Oaks is managed by the City of Thousand Oaks. Operated and maintained by the City of Thousand Oaks, and we do have a floodplain administrator on our staff. So while the Watershed Protection District is responsible for certain drainage structures they are not responsible for all drainage across the entire city.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:39:34

Okay then my second question around this is Following up on something you mentioned just before, that one aim of the study is possibly removing some homes from the floodplain area if I understand correctly. That's one possible goal of the study?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:39:58

A desirable end result would be that several residents who are paying thousands of dollars a year in flood insurance premiums right now may not need to do that going forward in the future

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:40:09

Right, so given that do you think that either through elevating those homes or just plain old removing them without changes would that have impacts on the floodplain downstream from the areas that are changed in some way or taken out?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:40:30

No, nothing that we are pursuing to do and what we're doing as I should mention is in partnership with the county. The county's involved in reviewing every step of the study would result in a impacts to any other property owners.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:40:47

Right, right. So just to walk through a simple example if for example the study recommended some elevation at some point to take some number of homes out of the floodplain but it would raise downstream there'd be another 100, 200, 500 acre feet of water to deal with. WPD would come back and say hey there would be this other impact so let's work that out but let's not have this downstream impact. Is that sort of the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:41:17

nature? That's true with this study or with any other development yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:41:22

But what I'm getting at is there is this cooperative discussion between the agencies.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:41:27

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:41:27

Okay very good Thank you for answering my questions. Mister mayor I am going to move to support this. We don't know yet, because the study's not finished and it keeps going on and on. Who benefits? We won't know that until the study is done. And we won't know what it'll cost or who will pay. How much of this will be county? How much of this will be city residents?

That's a concern, so this is not news. I've asked who benefits who pays several times before around this project and I'll continue to ask that. But given that we are in the discovery phase now and we need this new information to be able to answer those questions, I'm going to go ahead and move 9F and hope that we can get more clarity as soon as possible on this who benefits who pays question. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:32

Sounds good. We have a motion on the floor. Can we call the vote please?

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:42:45

And that motion passes five to zero.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:50

All right, next up is our public hearing will City Clerk please open this hearing?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:42:59

Hearing advertised as required by law is open to consider agenda item number 10A. Purchase and sale agreement for the transfer of property to Conejo Rec and Park District, 524 West Janss Road. There are no speakers for this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:43:15

All right, and presenting the item tonight is Public Works Director Neda Hardari and Deputy Public Works Director Ted Gerber.

CommentTed GerberProposedself-stated1:43:25

Good evening, Mayor and City Council members. My name is Ted Gerber. I'm the Deputy Public Works Director and the City Engineer in the Public Works Department. Joining me tonight on the dais is Nader Hedari and Noel Doran. Nader is the Public Works Director and Noel's one of our Assistant City Attorneys. I am presenting on an item that was last before you in October 2025, a transfer of ownership of the city property at 524 Janss Road to the Conejo Recreation and Park District for the development of a neighborhood park.

The parcel to be transferred is about an acre in size and was dedicated to the city as open space in 1983. The property is situated among residential homes along Janss Road, west of Lynn Road, and is pedestrian accessible on both the north and south sides. At present, the property landscaping and irrigation is maintained by the City Public Works Department.

In October, the City Council authorized staff to proceed with property sale negotiations with CRPD. At the same time, the City Council declared the site as exempt surplus land contingent upon transfer to CRPD. In November, the city's planning commission reviewed the potential disposition of property and transfer to CRPD and found the action consistent with the general plans goals and policies.

Our team worked closely with CRPD discussing preparation of the property and negotiating the terms of the transfer. This was a cooperative effort, and CRPD is fully on board with the two agreements that staff are now requesting that the City Council approve. The first contract is a purchase-and-sale agreement that transfers ownership of the 524 West Janss Road property by grant deed to CRPD for a sale price of $1.

The agreement provides for a 120-day investigation period following tonight's approval, during which the city will complete minor improvements to the property including separating the existing irrigation system from the city's adjacent right of ways. The second agreement is to license CRPD's use of a sliver of land shown here in an orange outline just east of the property which is outlined in blue.

The orange area is currently a city right-of-way easement and not a titled property. The license agreement grants CRPD the non-exclusive ability to encroach on this area without restricting the public's access and obligates CRPD to clean and maintain the travel pathway through the right-of-way, as well as all landscaping, sidewalks, irrigation, and other utilities at CRPD's sole expense.

This project was analyzed with respect to CEQA and found to be categorically exempt under Section 15325, The Transfer of Land Ownership And further, none of the six exemptions identified in CEQA guidelines section 15300.2 apply. Lastly this item relates to several city council goals as listed on this slide and recommendations related to this item are included in the staff report enlisted herein.

Nader, Noel and I are available for any questions. Thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:47:02

And does anybody have any questions for staff? No questions, all right next up I don't see any public speakers that correct. All right so i'm going to close the hearing now and would council like any comments or emotion Mr Newman

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:47:24

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I will go ahead and move item 10A based on staff recommendations one through four.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:47:34

May please call the vote?

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:47:45

Council Member Newman?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:47:47

Aye.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call1:47:47

Thank you very much that motion passes five to zero

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:48:09

Next up is our first department report, and presenting the item tonight is Lost Burges Municipal Water District General Manager David Peterson.

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated1:48:27

Good evening mayor and members of council. Thank you, my name is Dave Peterson I'm the general manager of Las Vergenas Municipal Water District and also what we call the administering agent of our joint powers authority. I wanted to introduce a number of our team members who are here with me Jessica Forte who's our principal engineer with Las Vergenas, Ricky Clark who is our public affairs associate she's going to be giving you a brief overview of the project that we're working on And then also Colin McCoy, who is with our constructor Walsh Construction.

So I'm going to be short. I just wanted to outline three things. Number one, I wanted to thank and recognize the city staff. You have an exemplary city staff, very professional. We've worked together on this over the course of more than a year. Akbar, Nader, Ted and their team really did a great job to work with us. Represented the city's interests very well and we came to an agreement that is before you that I think really recognizes the key issues around the project that you'll hear about from Ricky.

Just two other points about it. It is a water project that is regional in nature, it's a critical project for our region both LA County and Ventura County in terms of providing a more drought resilient supply of water and I think we all recall 2022 when we were facing some of the toughest water restrictions in our history this project will indeed help us so that we don't face that again And then third and probably most important, I wanted to directly give you my commitment on behalf of our organization the JPA that we will take the care and put the thought into building this project in your city to the standards that you expect in your staff. And that if at any time there are concerns or problems that we will be accountable and we will respond to them in a timely way I know it's important to you and I know the city's residents and businesses are critically important.

And so, I want you to know that you have that commitment from us at the highest level. And so with that, I think Ricky is up next unless Nader you wanted to give introductory remarks? Okay, Ricky Clark

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:50:42

Thanks, Dave. Good evening Mayor Taylor, council and city staff. Thank you for taking the time to let us share a bit about the project and MOA. So quick overview of LV and the JPA. I won't go through every single bullet here but Las Vergenas and Triunfo are two separate agencies that joined together to form a JPA to provide potable water services, wastewater composting and now the Pure Water Project through our joint partnership aka the JPA So through that we will be serving 105,000 residents throughout our service area and implementing this project. So here to talk about the Pure Water Project that Dave kicked off on.

This is gonna be our largest CIP in the history of the JPA and it's gonna be critical to our community so it's gonna create a new local supply of water to the tune of about 30% or we do not currently have one. We are 100% reliant on imported water which leaves us very vulnerable issues that we all experienced together during the last drought. This project will also allow us to satisfy a regulatory compliance need in Malibu Creek, it's a very highly protected and regulated watershed and this project will make sure that we're no longer discharging recycled water into the creek by 2030 which is our deadline to get out of there so again this project really allows us to satisfy both of those key needs in an environmentally responsible way Obviously, in creating a new local supply of water it'll also improve our reliability and our resiliency.

And finally as you can see on the slide we included a shot of the Advanced Water Purification Facility which will be live in 2030. I know some Thousand Oaks folks were with us at the site this past Friday celebrating the groundbreaking. We are now just a few years away from what is gonna be one of the most important projects in our region's history. And this is just what that process looks like. So the crux of the Pure Water Project is the advanced purification process, and that'll take recycled water that we treat at Tapo, send it through that advanced purification process and create that new supply of water. And this is really what we call bringing our water full circle. We've been in the business of beneficial reuse for decades now.

And now we're going to take it a step forward, making sure that we're no longer throwing away a product that can be very useful for us and for our residents as well as the entire region. So when I talk about some of these benefits, those really are specific to our service area and the residents within us. But this project really has a lot of regional benefits that impact residents within the city of T.O., and that's reducing the risk of regional water shortage And I especially want to highlight the interconnection that we have with Cuyahoga's Municipal Water District, which is the wholesaler for the City of T.O..

That interconnection that was completed just a couple years ago will allow us to exchange water molecules between our agencies so that if ever there is another shortage or some kind of operational issue We'll be able to swap water supplies. So when we talk about bolstering our own reliability within our service area, it really does have regional impacts that impact all of us. This really is a partnership and a regional project.

So of course it's going to reduce our reliance on the state water projects. Anytime we can take less water from that system, it frees up water for other agencies including those served by Calleguas. This project will also increase operational flexibility in our drought years, and like I mentioned reliability for the whole region. And finally it'll allow us to pull additional waste streams to connect to the reverse osmosis concentrate pipeline. You will also hear me refer to that as the ROC or the brine pipeline.

All right, so just touching a little bit on the memorandum of understanding that Dave spoke to. Really the purpose of this is to facilitate the installation of that brine line and I just wanted to highlight some of the key components and the main one really is establishing that the JPA will serve as the lead contracting agent and project administrator It also establishes that we'll cover costs for pavement restoration, as well as some other construction specifics across Conejo Canyon's bridge specifically. So also maintain that the city will retain a fiber optic installation and finally establishes a shared utility easement for future joint infrastructure needs between the JPA and the City of Thousand Oaks And of course the MOA establishes continued information sharing and collaboration between our two entities throughout construction.

We're really grateful for the collaboration we've had with the city thus far, and we want to keep that line of communication open. Now on to everyone's favorite part, construction impacts. We are not here to minimize or make light of what that is going to look like for residents but we really want to do is drive home that we are going to exhaust all opportunities and resources available to us to make sure that we're mitigating those construction impacts for residents So as you know the ROC brine line, it runs through multiple reaches within Thousand Oaks including reaches 2A, 2B and 3 along corridors including West Hill Crest Drive, Lynn Road, Northwood Park Road and Rancho Conejo Boulevard.

So the main anticipated and of course temporary impacts that I wanted to highlight were lane closures and traffic control during pipeline installation, pavement disturbance along the alignment, and of course construction activity near downtown Thousand Oaks and some residential corridors. Now as established in the MOA, the JPA will be responsible for all pavement restoration and roads will be restored to original condition or better. We'll work with our contractors Walsh being one of them to minimize community disturbance and support businesses through a business support plan that I'll touch on in just a minute.

Finally the city will retain inspection rights and approval authority over discretionary change orders So here I just wanted to include a snapshot of that pipeline installation schedule. And again, I just want to reiterate that we are not here to sugarcoat what this impact is going to look like and how it is going to impact residents and businesses but I wanna drive home that these impacts are temporary and we're working jointly to ensure that we do everything we can to minimize them and leave your streets better than we found them.

All right, so obviously a project of this scope requires significant outreach and communication with impacted parties. So we contracted with Arellano Associates essentially through the completion of construction of the AWPF and they bring with them a very strong history of construction outreach specifically. So really tapping into their specialty and doing everything we can to communicate this project adequately.

So some of the core themes that we've established are safety, trust and transparency. And I've also listed several components of that outreach program but I really want to focus in on that business support program because I think that's what's going to be most relevant for businesses in your community. To help mitigate construction-related impacts and of course maintain positive relationships with local businesses, the JPA together with Arbella and Walsh will implement this plan focusing on clear communication access preservation business promotion and proactive mitigation of construction impacts. Different components of this plan include advanced notice of construction activities probably one of the most important as well as signage and wayfinding temporary parking solution Pedestrian access maintenance and marketing assistance.

These will be tactics that we'll be making available to recognize impacted businesses along those pipeline reaches And here I just wanted to include some reach specific outreach so as I mentioned We will be targeting some of those impacted businesses well ahead of time and employing Some of these tactics to ensure that they have the support that they need to continue business throughout the project And really quickly, I just wanted to touch on some of the programmatic outreach that we've conducted over the years. Some of you have been over to our demonstration facility or some of our other events but really this was a big part of our outreach in that we are able to invite people in using that core theme of transparency and teach them about the technology, the importance of this project and most importantly how it's going to impact them.

So since the facility opened in 2020, we've conducted hundreds of tours and have hosted more than 3,000 visitors to learn about this project and how much of a benefit it's going to be to the region. So this has really been the foundation of our outreach, and it's also allowed us to get a little more creative with our outreach including several pure water tasting events where we partner with businesses throughout our service area to create their flagship product using pure water from our facility. So it's a really fun, engaging and creative way to get people talking about pure water and also to get them into our facility to learn about the ins and outs. So this has really been the foundation of our outreach and it will continue for the next several years throughout the construction of this project.

Also, probably one of also the more fun things we've had to do that is the full circle podcast. This is essentially where we take all of the information that we cover in a demo facility and we talk about it in a podcast that I also get to host. And so this allows us to meet our audience where they are and get that information that they would get on a tour out to them through their speakers or through their screens, because this podcast is available both on YouTube as well as Spotify. So really trying to do our due diligence in getting the word out well ahead of construction.

So I won't run through these, this is an extensive but not exhaustive list of some other outreach points that we've had for Pure Water in the region just over the past few years. So really just trying to show that we've done the best that we could and will continue to make sure we get the word out and message the importance of this project not just to our service area but to the entire region.

And with that, I'm happy to take any questions that you might have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:01:23

Thank you for that presentation Any questions for Mr. Adams?

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:01:29

Thank you. Well, thanks for coming down. I just need a little brief education on a couple of things. So the Joint Powers Authority, Las Vergen's Triumphal Joint Powers Authority wants to build a pipeline starting in Westlake Village going through Thousand Oaks going to Newbury Park right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:01:49

Correct.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:01:49

It's called a reverse osmosis pipeline otherwise known as a brine line correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:01:55

Correct

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:01:57

In simple terms, how does a brine line work exactly?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:02:01

Sure. Thank you for asking So the brine line is going to carry the byproducts from the advanced purification process which is mainly brine as well as some other constituents through a pipeline to connect to an existing salinity management pipeline owned and operated by Cayugas Municipal Water District who is your wholesaler So that pipeline already exists, it's already permitted and it already has the outfall mechanisms out at Port Hueneme. So we will have to utilize that route to make sure that we are responsibly disposing of that byproducts and because that pipeline has already been built, it was most feasible to connect to that pipeline and take that route.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:02:41

Oh I see. That's interesting. So where does the brine come from?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:02:45

The brine comes from the process. So it comes from our source water, which is recycled water. Brine in this sense is not going to be as saline heavy as like ocean desal, but there is some brine within our recycled water. It'll also carry out some other constituents that we're removing from this process.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:03:03

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:03:04

So that will be coming from the advanced water purification facility in Agoura.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:03:09

I see. So the brine will be flowing to the facility in Agoura?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:03:16

From the facility in Agoura. Through that pipeline to an existing facility management.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:03:21

The other way, okay got it all right okay and just tell me as far as the people here at Thousand Oaks you know we talk about water and how we're a hundred percent Reliant on imported water and we don't necessarily like that situation, but that's just the way it worked out. How is this going to reduce our imported water needs by 30%?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:03:44

It will reduce the JPA's imported needs by 30%, so not necessarily the citizens of the City of Thousand Oaks. However, we will have the ability to exchange water supplies with Calleguas which is the wholesaler of the City of Thousand Oaks. So once this facility is full scale there is a very high chance that residents of the City of Thousand Oaks will be receiving a more bolstered water supply through that interconnection. So it really is increasing reliability for the entire region since we are all interconnected now.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:04:16

I see, okay. So ultimately the water will end up at Cayagas and then can be distributed to us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:23

Through the interconnection potentially yes.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:04:25

Oh okay well that makes sense. Okay Mostly got it. But again, like I said, this 100 percent dependence on imported water really puts us in a lurch in a lot of ways, especially during drought time. So sounds like this project is going to help with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:45

Yeah, absolutely.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:04:46

OK, thank you for coming down.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:48

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:50

You mostly got it. Do you want to take a stab and all the way get it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:55

If not tonight, I'd like to invite the whole council over to the demo facility and we'll wax poetic about all of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:00

it. Thank you Mr. Engler

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:05:04

Yeah, thank You mr. Mayor and Councilmember Adam water flows downhill So that might help with some of your understanding

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:05:14

Thank you for that Bob

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:05:15

and and I appreciate you coming over and speaking to us tonight the I regret I wasn't able to be at the groundbreaking the other day. Exciting times for the region, to have this facility being built in our neighboring cities in our region is a step in the right direction. I do have similar questions as Council Member Adams. Currently, the plan right now is to take the reclaimed water and pump it into the West Lake Reservoir. The Las Vergas Reservoir? Mm-hmm. And then we have the interconnection that comes out to Bard.

Is there a pumping stations that could make that transfer? How would that happen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:06:11

I'll phone a friend on this one. Dave?

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:06:17

Sure, thank you. Good question. So Ricky mentioned we have this interconnection between Cayagas and Las Virginias really a great investment that we made so what we are working out and I should mention the JPA is basically a partnership between Las Virginias and Triumphal Water and Sanitation District. I did want to recognize one of our directors Carl Direcchi who's one of your employees as well he's actually the vice chair of our JPA But with regard to the movement of water, what we are planning to do is work out an arrangement each year where we will actually physically move water through that interconnection. It's on Lindero Canyon Road from LA County into Ventura County and that will deliver that water to Triunfo. And Triunfo is entitled to 30% of the water, 29.4% of the water that we produce So that water will move into Ventura County.

It will go into Cayagas' water system and help to supply the eastern portion of Ventura County. And as Ricky mentioned, you know in water everything is interconnected and so when one area receives a local source of water it really helps the whole region because what that does is really preserves the limited imported water that we all rely on and makes that go further.

There are benefits that are more broad-reaching than the actual benefit to the agency that receives the water molecules.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:07:45

Would some of our city customers, not so much our city customers but say customers out in the east side of our town, North Ranch, that area would those be the prime customers that might receive this water?

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:07:59

So it would be the Oak Park Water Service area which includes you know Oak Park and the surrounding area

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:08:08

Thank you,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:08:09

thank you. Mr. Newman? Thank You Mayor and thanks very much for being here for your presentation I have some questions about the just the wastewater aspect of the brine line which is that thing before us tonight so there's waste produced at your plant it would go through this brine line and come through Thousand Oaks and just so I understand the routing it would The pipeline would run to Newberry Park, down the hill to Santa Rosa Valley or thereabouts.

eventually head to, where would it be purified before heading to the ocean?

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:08:49

So the purification actually happens at the new facility that we're building and that we had the groundbreaking for on Friday. That facility is on Agoura Road in the city of Agoura Hills. And so that's really where the brine is created. So if you will this treatment process, the water is basically pumped and forced through a membrane And that membrane only allows the pure water to pass through. All of the rest is the reject or brine water, that goes through this pipeline that will traverse through the city and eventually it goes all the way down into the Santa Rosa Valley. It passes where Hill Canyon Treatment Plant is. Is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:09:27

the water, the brine rather, that comes through this brine line, is it then subject to further treatment

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:09:34

downstream? No, it's not. It's really just conveyed. It is then reaches the Salt management pipeline of Cayagas and then eventually makes its way to the ocean. There's no further treatment up there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:09:47

No further purification? Okay. So I have two sets of questions. One is a benefit, one is perhaps a disbenefit but we'll find out. The benefit part, I did not realize, I learned only recently that our biotech industry here produces brine, briny stuff. Quite a lot of it that is so briny it's above I don't know the concentration level but it's above the limit is my understanding of what our wastewater treatment plant here which is very good plan but it is so concentrated we cannot accept it. So is there a benefit for our biotech community here to be able to tap into this brine line and send that down toward wherever it's going to go?

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:10:35

Yes, absolutely. And in fact we've talked with the city staff with your team, Akbar, Ted about this. You know when we conceived this alignment for the brine pipeline I wish I could say that we had this great foresight to route it through what is your most vibrant business sector and then the biotech sort of hub Of Thousand Oaks, we actually really fairly recently identified this opportunity and believe that this pipeline can be a great resource to that biotech corridor. And we are eager to be a partner to support that. There are discussions going on with Cayagas Municipal Water District Our agency and and even with your staff to talk about that and to talk about how can this pipeline really provide benefit for that biotech corridor?

Amgen Takeda, and then even more broadly and even looking ahead to the future plans that the city has so I do think it can be a resource and We would be eager to be a good partner with the city to do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:11:40

So given that given the There's already a large number of, in fact what they're doing right now because it can't go to our wastewater treatment is every day it's going out in trucks. I don't know the actual amount being trucked out but given that that's a problem, a big enough problem to have multiple trucks moving every day, given that it's not just Amgen and Takeda there are other facilities coming, there are many other biotech startups here Are we confident that the pipeline will have adequate capacity to take on the additional brine from the biotech industry here in Thousand Oaks?

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:12:24

I do feel confident in that, and I'll say that when we really started to identify this opportunity, we've actually looked at upsizing the pipeline. So the original pipeline is 12 inches. We do have capacity remaining in that 12-inch pipe to add brine, including brine potentially from Amgen. But as we've learned that there is more interest in this, we are looking currently at upsizing the pipeline from 12 to 14 inches We feel like it's a modest investment to really plan for the future, and our thought is let's install this one time and plan for the long term. So we're ready as an agency to make that investment so that we don't have to come back and do it again

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:13:11

Yeah, so I appreciate the questions my colleagues have asked about the water benefit and I agree it's great to have alternatives to the SWP. We just never have had alternatives so a second supply is most welcome for sure but there's also this additional benefit of a safer way and more cost-effective way to deal with the brine we're already producing here, and maybe producing more of in the future.

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:13:42

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:13:43

Great, great, great. I do have an environmental question. I'm not sure if the JPA, I think this is outside your jurisdiction, and if it is please tell me but I'm curious about this. As with any purification project there is a waste byproduct There are at least four classes of waste that get pulled out that are potential concerns downstream. And these are salt, of course, brine, microplastics, PFAS chemicals and pharma residue.

So for all of those, I'm wondering wherever this brine line goes before it's dumped in the ocean. Is it treated further for treatment or removal of those four classes of substance in any way? And if so where does that happen?

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:14:43

So not currently, it's not treated any further. And it's discharged through an existing ocean outfall that's in Port Hueneme. But you raised a really good point. I mean this is an emerging issue of concern. One of the great things of advanced treatment is it's very effective in removing these compounds and we don't want those compounds in our drinking water. But the second question is where do they go? And they do go in the brine.

And so long term, I do think that there will be increasing regulatory focus on these compounds and how to manage them. I would say the knowledge is really around human health effects but there may be ecological health effects as well. The ocean outfall is permitted by the LA Regional Water Quality Control Board. Right now we are very confident that the concentrations of those compounds, we can easily meet those regulatory requirements so we don't expect to have a concern currently but as far as the future it may require some additional level of management and that could include treatment.

It's really too soon to know, but I do think it's an item we'll need to watch and be mindful of.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:58

Yeah, absolutely. And I want to credit your agency. I have to say I was a skeptic even on the purification process but having toured your pilot facility you turned me around on that. You've convinced me that you can take something that is of questionable quality and have just two H's and one O at the end of it and that's absolutely safe But I would agree that this is an emerging area of concern.

And then who's responsible and at what level? These are questions that many agencies, municipal and otherwise, are wrestling with.

CommentDave Peterson I'mProposedself-stated2:16:40

Agreed. Yeah. Thank you for those comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:16:42

Final question. I saw on their final slides some reference to pure coffee and pure gelato and pure beer. Are those going to be available somewhere

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:16:53

Yeah, we've hosted those events since 2022 and we have no plans to stop. So we'll at least be doing one more before the end of the year. Pure Beer is a popular one obviously but we want to make sure we host something fun for those that don't drink so stay tuned and we will keep your council informed of that next event that we have

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:13

Really appreciate that. I'm sorry I couldn't be at your event Friday, had an emergency come up but really appreciate all this good info.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:17:21

Yeah and we appreciate your support.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:22

And these benefits thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:17:24

Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:27

Thank you. Great questions, Mr. Newman. I love the opportunity that I didn't even realize about Amgen and the potential help there. I think- I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:36

had no idea that they're trucking out. They're producing so much that there are trucks rolling

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:41

every day. Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:42

I'm

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:42

glad

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:42

you brought that up to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:43

pull that out. That's really cool. And thank you for the presentation. Now we had no public speakers for this. I feel like we got questions out. So I'm going to move or I'm going to ask for a motion and if anybody wants to leave a comment with that, they can? Mr. Engler?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:17:58

I'm happy to move the item 12A, one two three four and five.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:18:08

And will clerk please call the vote.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:18:18

That motion passes 5-0

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:18:20

Awesome, thank you all for joining us tonight. All right next up is our second department report and presenting the item tonight is Community Development Analyst Lynn Oshada, Finance Director Jamie Boschiorino and Assistant City Attorney Noel Doran and development staff is also available for question who I believe is gonna be joining us on Zoom, is that correct?

Maybe not. Did I make

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:18:52

that up? Sorry, Mayor, can you repeat that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:18:57

Do we have a developer staff or available for questions as well? Correct,

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:19:02

yes we do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:19:03

Great. We

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:19:03

do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:19:05

All right take it away.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:19:11

Good evening, Mayor and Council. The item before you is a status update on the Hollycrest Home, a 78-unit affordable home ownership project. The project is located on the corner of Hollycrest and Herbs. In 2021 the City acquired the property for $10 million using general funds and the housing successor funds In 2022, after an RFPQ process, City Council selected People Self-Help Housing.

In 2024 the project's entitlements were approved also the DDA was executed by the city people self help and the housing land trust of Fitcher County Since City Council approval of the DDA, the developer has secured approximately $2.5 million in funding. However due to increased construction costs, the estimated project cost has risen to $51.2 million leaving a $4.7 million funding gap.

Last month, the DDA closing deadline was extended to March 2027. This provides additional time to assemble full project financing. Since the DDA was approved, the project's funding mix has changed and now includes multiple sources with different affordable restrictions timing and compliance requirements. These requirements may not fully align with the current DDA so amendments may be needed to support the project Proposed provisions may affect the project's budget and financing, the project timeline, the project scope and the sales price calculation.

Staff is therefore asking for authority to negotiate amendments and return any final DDA changes to City Council for future consideration. The goal is to improve project feasibility while preserving long-term affordability. Staff is requesting, staff is requesting direction to study a citywide impact fee waiver for 100% affordable four cell projects. A waiver could help reduce the project's 4.7 million funding gap.

Any waiver would apply only to city fees and staff will return later with a recommendation for council consideration. The developer has requested two main amendments to the approved entitlements. First, by removing the private balconies required for all unit types and second, by removing conditions requiring undergrounding of two utility poles. Staff is reviewing their appropriate process to amend the approved amendments These requests are being evaluated as part of the broader efforts to reduce the project's funding gap and support the feasibility of the project.

Staff goal is to keep Hollycrest Homes moving forward by supporting funding solutions and refining project terms as needed. Following City Council direction, staff will continue coordinating with a developer on next steps. These are the recommendations before you. And if you have any questions, the development team is here and as well as city staff to answer any questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:23:07

Thank you. Thank you for the update presentation. Anybody have any questions for staff? Was that yes or no? I'm sorry. That's a maybe. All right. We have no questions for staff, I don't as well. Next we have... Uh-oh, let me see what happened. I believe we have two speakers correct? I lost sight of them.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:23:39

Yes.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:23:41

Okay, I'm gonna go to my GoTo and invite Jackson Piper and then if I can't see the next, can you call it? Thank you, perfect. Jackson Piper welcome back.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:23:53

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of City Council. This is kind of continuing a similar subject to what I was speaking on earlier about the cost of producing new affordable housing. And this is a very important project for Thousand Oaks, it's great to see affordable for sale housing being offered by this project in the city. So first I wanted to ask the City Council members to approve staff's recommendation to authorize the city manager to negotiate proposed amendments And next, I wanted to ask City Council and city staff whether it's possible to also expand from just 100% affordable for sale housing getting a waiver.

to 100% affordable rental housing and whether also individual affordable units in mixed income projects can also receive full or partial waivers of impact fees. I know impact fees are an important source of funding for city infrastructure, and i'm kind of thinking along the terms Well, we need to fund city infrastructure absolutely and development should be part of that. The fact that we also need to increase our stock of affordable housing units and should be encouraging through any means the production of more affordable set aside housing units within projects as well as the 100% affordable both rental and for sale projects it just seems Right to me to try and set aside the impact fees for those units.

So that's my request, and otherwise I absolutely encourage City Council to move forward with staffs recommendation on this project. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:25:48

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:25:48

you Jackson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:25:49

And next up will be Jason Gaffner.

PresenterJason GaffnerHousing Trust from Ventura County and Housing Land Trust Ventura CountyProposedself-stated2:25:57

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers and staff. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Jason Gaffner and I represent the Housing Trust from Ventura County and Housing Land Trust Ventura County. I'm here in support of staff drafting an impact fee waiver ordinance for affordable sale housing From our experience financing affordable housing throughout Ventura County, one of the most persistent challenges especially for affordable home ownership is closing the gap between development costs and what low-and-moderate income households can afford.

Even with public land contributions and layered financing, forest sale projects are particularly sensitive to upfront costs. Fee relief is often a critical tool to make these developments pencil move forward Thousand Oaks has already taken an important step by acquiring and donating the site, but development costs remain a major barrier. Impact fees while important can significantly increase the cost per home and make these projects even more difficult to deliver. Reducing these costs can be the difference between a project moving forward or stalling. The Hollycrest Project is a strong example of the type of housing we need that will deliver 59 homes for low-income buyers, 19 homes for moderate income buyers, housing types that are extremely limited across the region.

This is exactly the type of project cities across Ventura County are struggling to deliver affordable housing homeownership for working families. Equally important, adopting this ordinance establishes a consistent city-wise policy that can encourage future affordable home ownership development. Predictability and local policies is key for developers and financing partners when evaluating whether to pursue projects in a given jurisdiction.

We view this as a targeted, high-impact strategy that aligns local policy with the goal of expanding affordable homeownership opportunities. We respectfully urge the council to direct staff to move forward with drafting their ordinance. Thank you for your time and leadership on the issue.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:27:48

Thank you. I'd like to respond... Staff would like to respond to any public comments first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:27:55

Thank you Mayor. Just in reference to Mr. Piper's question on the waiver being broadened to rental affordable housing, we did look at this request from People Self-Help Housing. At this point the consideration is only for 100% for sale affordable housing. This is the most difficult type of affordable housing to construct in any city, and it's often only done by non-profit developers not private developers. So at this time we're just focused on 100% for sale affordable housing waiver certainly something you know into the future we could consider expanding

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:28:33

Thank You Jamie and then scooters had a question first staff as well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:28:38

I didn't have a question. I wanted to move the item so I didn't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:28:46

Before we do any additional questions for staff miss Gutierrez

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:28:55

As my screen goes blank, I think it was item 12B. Thank you. I'd love to move this item and my question earlier related to Mr. Piper's comments and I had not yet considered the impact fee waivers And I didn't get a chance to ping Tracy in between that comment and now so I will ask If it is possible to bring an item back to the agenda to discuss that And I understand that we are limiting this to for sale because it's the hardest and also just being considerate of the nonprofits and the partnerships there But as we move This forward and I'm really excited that this was a staff recommendation. Thank you for that And the very real realities of our housing crisis more specifically related to affordable housing and low-income housing, I'd like to explore this Further so that we can be a Reputable attractive city for more of these types of partnerships and developers To find us and then I'd like to like shout it from a rooftop as well So I'm not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:30:27

sure no, so so in answer to your question What you are asking staff to do is actually to research and evaluate this staff believes based on a cursory review that In order to move this project forward We really need to consider doing this because this is again for sale projects are the most difficult affordable housing projects to do And the only way that this will pencil out is to consider ways to cut costs.

At this point in time, staff is only recommending that and we're recommending to focus on that because of the timing. So to broaden it at this point I do have concerns with our ability to get back to you in time and we will come back to you with the actual ordinance on that. Yes, there's nothing that prevents City Council from directing staff to evaluate other fee waiver opportunities. But at this point in time my recommendation would be to focus just on the for sale project because timing is really critical at this point if

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:31:24

that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:31:24

makes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:31:24

sense. Yeah and if I might add one additional piece for council to consider is So this is specific to this particular project moving it forward. As we have potential 100% rental products coming forward, will be an opportunity that we could contemplate that kind of that ask would likely come throughout that process. Those projects are often funded very significantly differently from four cell projects which makes the The need and the ask much different So as we've evaluated this throughout the process in talking with our outside consultants on this there are significant financial ramifications Around the rental component versus the for sale Component and so we can certainly have those discussions as we move forward for sure The key consideration here tonight is the urgency around the for sale component

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:32:17

Yeah, I understand that. That's my attempt at separating them and going like future looking can we agendize this? So I'm happy to to move the motion as recommended 12 B one through three So are

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:32:37

you good with this we you have motion on the floor for this item and then if a 100% Affordable housing project comes to us. That's a rental we have that conversation at that point. Are you okay with that? I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:32:50

I'd like it to be more solidified as a conversation we're going to have regardless of the project presenting itself first. And the reason is, I'd like to become a more attractive city for these projects to find us so that you know yeah to make it more appealing

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:33:13

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:33:13

and we can I don't yeah. I don't want to deter from the conversation at hand Because this is project specific But waiting for another project to arise to have the discussion. I don't know that that's I would love to hear what other council members

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:33:33

Okay, let's put maybe what I could suggest here. We do have to come back for the ordinance May we incorporate a bit piece on that allow the count? We can incorporate some of the findings we have on the rental piece you can have that discussion at that time as well to see if there is a Determination or reason to go further at that point in time So that'll provide you and afford you an opportunity to have that discussion along with this on that same timeline It won't be probably the full deep dive, but perhaps we could have Kathy Head join us for that piece and we can have that conversation at that point in time. That way we're not slowing down the one item and we're actually being responsive to this item as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:34:07

Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:34:07

Sound good?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:34:08

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:34:08

Okay awesome Mr. Newman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:34:11

So I had two comments but before I do it um I just want to understand Council Member Gutierrez you have moved the item before us correct based on staff recommendations correct? Thank you. So I want to make two comments on this and the reasons I strongly support your motion. One is this whole question of why are we making changes in a development agreement tonight when, in our previous meeting on March 10th, we were unanimous and adamant against making changes to a development agreement?

No one ever said, ever that development agreements inherently are etched in stone and cannot ever never can be changed. We haven't said that. In fact we make changes to DAs all the time most of them are minor in nature The other key point, and it's really salient here tonight is there is agreement. There's a meeting of the minds between this council or this staff and I appreciate all the work that you've done to get us across the line on this. There's a meeting of the minds between the city and the folks building this project That's a significant difference from the hearing we had the other night where we were conceptually pretty far apart. So I'm really pleased to see changes here tonight because they will result in getting this project done, which I fully agree is really necessary here.

On the other question of future contemplated changes to impact fees at a 50 bazillion foot level. I agree with you, we should be in more attractive place for projects like this. There are a couple of process issues here. One is Brown Act, the question before us tonight, the only question is these changes to this development agreement? So that's what you've moved, that's what we'll vote on. The other is I too would like to have a discussion on that at some future time but I appreciate the points Ms. Boscorino, Ms. Noonan and Mr. Powers made That one, it's different. The mechanics and the finances are different.

And two, it's going to take some analysis, right? To figure out whether it's a good idea in what situations it might be a good idea. I'm certainly not opposed to having that discussion. I think we should but that's a longer and different discussion.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:37:01

I just want to clarify. I'm in full support of this project and I think the differentiator here between the previous Project and the changes that were being asked is there's a clear community benefit here And I think that was my secondary what I was trying to speak to secondarily for future not to convolute this moment but because I think it was I appreciate all the direction by staff and research and work

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:37:54

Mr.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:37:54

Adams, any comments? So the motion stands as is. Motion stands as is. Simple as that. We're going to look at impact fees for sale affordable only

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:38:12

If I'm understanding this right we have changes to the DA

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:38:17

plus Giving us direction. We're gonna be coming back with modifications amendments to the DPA

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:38:25

I'm not prepared at this point to delve into impact fees for private projects and Developers and all the impacts that could have on the city. That's another issue very complicated and a whole different ballgame, right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:38:42

Okay, we got it right? Got it right. All right so you know on this one city bought the land for 10 million dollars in 2021 contributed to the project plus staff time we committed to build this I would like to see it through You are seeing how challenging these projects are. Like, you know, $12.5 million in secured grants, still a $5 million gap, looking at slashing fees to get there. It's just showing that it is very, very difficult to bring a for-sale affordable Housing project online.

So I think all the asks are reasonable I would like to honor what we set out to do which is get this thing completed so I think that is a

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:39:31

Can I just add one thing there? I mean, I Didn't mean some negative about the project. It's a great project. I voted for it initially Not often. Do you hear the word affordable and for sale housing in the same sentence? Oh And thanks to some careful planning here by our staff and the city council, we've managed to get to that point with this Hollycrest project. Eliminating the cost of the land certainly has helped but even with that you can see the problems nonprofits have trying to fill that gap and it's a challenge so I'm sure we will And I'd like to see more projects like this in the city. Again, I really think we need to strike a balance between the leasing and the parental stuff that we're approving and the for sale as well because that's how we've all built wealth over time.

And I want the younger generation to have the same opportunity. Yep.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:40:35

Mr. Engler? Thank you Mr. Mayor. I was just reflecting back on something that Mr. Adams said, that when we first voted on this a couple years ago We're doing quite a bit of requiring builders to give us some affordable housing. I'm thinking of the T.O. Ranch project, 54 affordable units within that project. Those are rental units. One of the missing parts of what we're trying to provide for our community is this for sale product at an affordable price point. And as all my colleagues have pointed out, the difficulty in doing that is painfully obvious.

The way we need to go forward is to make this happen. I don't think our goal has changed. We're presented with some circumstances now where we need to add a little bit more effort to push this wheel uphill, but I think the goal is still a laudable goal and one we should still strive for.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:54

That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:41:55

right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:56

All right, motion on the floor? Clerk can you call the vote please?

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:42:07

And that motion passes five to zero.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:42:14

All righty, next up is our final department report. Presenting the item tonight is Assistant City Manager Akbar Alakhan. All right, Akbar, take it on. I missed you, Jamie. I'm sorry. Jamie's going to be joining Akbar as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed2:42:56

Thank you Councilmember Taylor, members of the City Council. Tonight we are, the City Council is being asked to consider a purchase and sale agreement of 1868 Thousand Oaks Boulevard. We are here tonight as a result of a rather long but successful negotiation between city staff and the property owner and will go into details on the purchase and sale agreement shortly.

A little bit about the property first, it's located along Thousand Oaks Boulevard just to the west of City Hall here. The two closest intersections along the boulevard are Dallas Drive to the east and Los Feliz to the west. It is surrounded on three sides by city property and by public right-of-way to the north. This is a photo of the property. It sits on .25 acres or 10,800 square feet. It has 16 parking spaces and a trash enclosure. It has a two-story existing medical dental office currently.

And I want to just share a little bit about the zoning and general plan designation. It's a, it's designated commercial neighborhood in the general plan. It's zoned under the Thousand Oaks Boulevard specific plan SP20. There are two existing easements on the property. One is a reciprocal access easement onto Teal Boulevard and that's where the curb cut is on Teal B.

That's actually shared with the property just to the west of it that city owned. And then secondly, in the back portion of the parking lot there is a 30 foot wide easement owned by the Watershed Protection District for subterranean box culvert. And then lastly this property is within the downtown, the proposed downtown project area as noted in the draft EIR that is publicly available.

Here's a bit of context of where the property sits in relation to the overall proposed downtown project. It's all the way out to the west end of the project, and you'll see here that Main Street overlies a portion of the property. We're going to drill down just a little bit closer to show exactly why we were pursuing acquisition of this site. And what you'll notice, the property line is shown in that blue line there on the screen.

The curb gutter sidewalk roadway essentially all the assets that make up a street are entirely overlying this property. Additionally, this portion of West Main Street is one of the critical circulation portions of the entire program. And so having access to this part of the property was critical to make sure the entire program works. The PSA in front of you, while it's 20 pages long I can summarize the high points in these three bullet points. It has a purchase price to the property owner of $4.5 million that's reflective of not only the appraised value of the property but also the relocation costs associated with the business and maintaining business continuity.

Secondarily, the city while we will take ownership of the property at the close of escrow. The city would lease back the property to the current owner for 14 months and really that's allowing for the current property owner to find a new home for the business that is currently occupying the property. If this is approved tonight, we anticipate the close of escrow to be next month in May of 2026. So the recommendation in front of you first is to approve the purchase and sale agreement between City of Thousand Oaks and the current property owner 1868 TOLLC.

Allow the city manager to execute the purchase and sale agreement and if it's acceptable to the city manager and city attorney to make any minor amendments to that PSA. Third is approving the budget appropriation expenditure of four point five eight five million dollars that includes the acquisition costs as well as some transaction cost Fourth is to authorize city manager to execute that lease back agreement I just noted on the previous slide and then lastly to find that these actions are exempt from CEQA If there are any questions staff is available. Thank you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:46:57

Thank you, sir. Do we have any questions? All right, no questions? No speakers. Would anyone like to comment or motion? Mr. Adams.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:47:13

Okay, what do we have here? This is 10C, where am I?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:47:19

12C.

CommentCity ClerkProposed · by introduction2:47:20

12C, got it. All right, I'll move 12C and staff recommendations one through five.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:47:28

Thank you, please call the vote.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 move 12C and staff recommendations one through five. Thank you, please call the vote. I'll do a roll call
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I'll do a roll call vote. Council Member Adam? Yes. Council Member Newman? Aye. Council Member Gutierrez? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Angler? Yes And Mayor Taylor? Yes

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call2:47:49

and that motion passes five to zero

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:47:53

All right we are rounding third next is our council member report on two recent meetings We will take items 15A and 15B together Council Member Angler, Council Member Newman Would you like to report on the Washington, D.C., trip? I'll start with Ms. Wrangler and just call you out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:48:20

Well, sure. I thank the citizens for sending us again to Washington D.C., and also to a Cal Cities event in the city of Costa Mesa about three weeks ago. The trip to Washington D. C., which was staffed very ably by our Mina Leyba legislative analyst, It was a meeting where we went to both the National League of Cities Convention and also we met with agencies and our congressional representatives, both Senators and Congresswoman Brownlee.

During those meetings We had a series of items that we wish to petition the government for And we met with agencies. We petitioned the agencies and then we went to our representatives Just a quick little rundown on those. We're looking for some help in creating a small business incubator assistance to help give opportunities to our younger people who wish to create business We're looking at, we've had our Transition Center for Homelessness out of Newberry Park for about a year now. And we do have proof of concept of that where we've had people graduate from that transition center and move into permanent housing. We're asking for federal government assistance to help us finish that project and really build it out to this full potential.

We've also noticed, especially after seeing what happened in L.A., during the fires we're asking for backup power for our pump stations so that we don't run short of water during critical times of ESPSs and wildfire. And we've also asked for some interventions in our open space with invasive species such as Mexican fan palms, which during both those fires in L.A., earlier this or early last year, Those palms were very instrumental in spreading the blaze. So we want to make sure that we get those out of our open space, especially those near our homes.

And then we have two road projects or two actually one Flood control and then our downtown flood control project that we're looking to get federal funding to help us make sure that we don't have any reoccurrence of floods that have happened in the past, and also get ahead of a potential problem at Lynn Road and Hollycrest where we have a box culvert that's over 60 years old under that intersection.

Vital intersection by the way for evacuation both north and south, east and west out of town. We want to redo that one to make sure that's up to current standards. I'm also on the committee, the Public Safety Committee there. There's a lot of talk in our public safety committee on the uses and dangers of AI use in police work. What type of guidelines should we try to have legislators give us on that? And also some of the benefits of AI in crime prevention and law enforcement.

We also talked about enhancing the profile of 9-1-1. As drones become more and more prevalent in law enforcement, the use of 9- 1-1 to dispatch those is going to be vital. And we wanted to get ahead of some of the legal issues with that as well with our legislators. And then we had a seminar, actually a joint committee looking at immigration and the effects of immigration enforcement with community resilience, community stability and then public trust of local law enforcement. And how to balance those two items out.

So that was the DC.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:52:54

And I had to leave before the League of Cities event but we did get to speak to some of the departments together and our representatives. I felt like it was, I feel like we got a lot done. I'm very hopeful that we're going to get some approvals on some funding coming from some of the stuff that we were asking for. Some of the things that we heard, which is really encouraging, is you guys are doing a great job getting ahead of things.

So that was some cool feedback on our end. For the League of Cities Spring Policy Committee meeting, do you want to give us an update there Mr. Newman?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:53:32

Yes, thank you Mayor. This was attended by Mayor Pro Tem Engler and I. Mayor Pro Tem Engler serves on the Transportation Committee. Is that? Transportation Communications and Public Works. Thank you for filling that out. I appreciate it. Just a general comment on why we go to these conferences. We are an active participant both in the League of California Cities and in the National League of Cities, as Mayor Pro Tem Engler just reported.

I would say there's three benefits. One is it is incredibly useful to talk with our colleagues in other cities NLC represents close to 3,000 cities around the country. And we are all wrestling with some of the same problems and we learn about innovative ways that other cities are addressing problems. We're not proud. We'll steal from anyone and we've done that multiple times and that is best done through face-to-face communications.

Two is we get money. We go to Sacramento, we go to Washington And when we are there, this has actually happened. We might be asking for a small pot of money for some project, but just by virtue of being there we learned that a much larger pot has recently opened that we might be able to utilize to benefit residents here. So the financial benefits for our residents and businesses far outweigh, by far many multiples any cost of going to these events.

And then the final thing is the power of collective action, if the City of Thousand Oaks were to write a letter to Sacramento or certainly to Washington and saying we're against this or we're for this That might get two, three seconds attention before it goes in someone's trash can. But on the other hand if every city in California is lobbying in the same direction or every city in the country is that gets a lot more attention because those are much more important constituencies if we act together so that that's why we do these things Now as for the policy committees, Council Member Engler is our resident, Mayor Pro Tem Engler rather is our resident transportation expert.

I serve on Cal City's Environmental Quality Committee. One of the interesting things we discussed there among five different bills that are pending right now It has to do with how much energy that utility companies are required to buy and when they have to buy it. There's something in the energy world called resource adequacy, or RA. Meaning if you're an energy provider, the state regulatory framework requires you to have adequate reserves so when there's some spike in demand, there is enough energy to meet that demand. Pretty simple concept. However, currently on the energy spot markets where prices change minute by minute The state requires all utility providers, including the Clean Power Alliance of which this city is a member. All utility providers, Edison, PG&E, Clean Power Alliance doesn't matter, all have to buy one month worth of energy even if they only need one hour.

So really good analogy I heard at the meeting is it's like if you want a glass of orange juice why are you being forced to buy the entire crate? And that's essentially the problem that we face, makes your utility rates higher. There is a bill pending right now in Sacramento SP 1138 that would reduce the regulatory restrictions it would allow Utilities to buy energy from one another, number one which they can't do now. It's somewhat limited and number two more importantly is to buy in much smaller increments including that one hour if that's what's needed.

So these are really good. These will reduce costs and ultimately will benefit you as rate payers of utility companies It also happened the week we were there that the original sponsor of the bill, I'm not sure why but they needed to walk away from the bill. And because we have good communication with our assembly member in Sacramento, Assembly Member Irwin, she stepped up and she's now taken over as the lead sponsor of this bill.

Now we think there are clear benefits from this, and that's why the Environmental Quality Committee voted unanimously to support this. So I hope that support will carry a lot of weight. I hope SB 1138 will go forward. We also did one other...we voted on five bills in total but we voted to support one other bill and this has to do with the aftermath of wildfires.

Currently there is this complicated regulatory framework where Any toxins, batteries, asbestos other toxic stuff after a wildfire has multiple frameworks and multiple sets of tests for what is and is not a toxin. This bill seems aims to streamline that and have one set of regulations regarding toxins That's an improvement. It means that folks who have been burnt out from their homes in wildfires will be able to rebuild faster.

It will allow those who are removing waste from wildfire sites to be able to move faster. It will allow people who manage landfills to be able to move faster. We're not reducing safety in any way. There'll still be a set of guidelines about toxins, we're not changing that. But this will simplify and streamline regulatory framework. And that's something that members were in favor of, and as the city's representative I voted in favor of as well.

Thank you Mr. Mayor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:00:12

With that would you like to maybe move both items? Thank you. I'd be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed3:00:19

happy to.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:00:20

So, I will... Wait, wait, wait.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:00:23

Mr. Engler? Sorry, let me just, because I know this was a topic that came up in some public comments about a month or two ago having to do with e-bikes and, excuse me, v-bikes. There is a lot of legislation being proposed about e-bikes everything from Creating a licensing system for the different type of e-bikes to reducing the amount of power some e-bikes can have, to requiring school age kids to have instruction on how to use an e-bike. So I just wanted to get it out there that the concerns that were voiced in our meetings a month or so ago are being worked on at Sacramento right now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:01:07

Thank you. Mr. Newman?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed3:01:10

I appreciate Mayor Pro Tem Engler bringing that up because it reminds me of two things. Number one, I failed to echo his appreciation for our Legislative Affairs Manager Mina Leyba who ably shepherded these bills in Sacramento, in the Cal Cities meeting. And also she produces a monthly legislative update and it calls out these e-bike bills and I'm hopeful these and other stricter legislation will start to address e-bike safety problems in a more unified way.

So with that, I will propose or move that we pass items 15A and B on the agenda based on staff

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:01:58

recommendations. I was about to ask Ty or Al if we left anything out. All right thank you boys. All right we have a motion can we get a vote?

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by roll call3:02:10

And that motion passes five to zero.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:02:13

Thank you. All right, next is City Manager Drew Powers with some announcements.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:02:20

Thanks. The only announcement is that two weeks from tonight we will have our next city council meeting. It'll be held over at the Grant R. Brimhall Library. Will be our annual priority and goal setting session. We'll also receive the community attitude survey results from our survey researcher. That'll be on the 28th of April.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:02:42

Thank you, Mr. Powers and I will now adjourn this meeting.