Board of Supervisors Meeting - January 6, 2026

Well, good morning. I'm going to call the Ventura County Board of Supervisors for our special meeting on January 6th, 2026 to order and we'll Sheriff Fryhoff lead us in... I'm sorry wait a minute. We got to do roll call first so I'm getting ahead of myself but stay where you are. And Mia will you call the roll?

Thank you Madam Chair and Supervisors. I'll be really brief, you've already read the introduction so we are here today because of the significant storm event that started on December 24th. First I want to say a profound thank you to all of our first responders, Sheriff's Office, OAS, Fire, PWA that were out during the holidays keeping our county safe Today, we're going to receive a report of the impacts some of the estimates of the cost associated with that as well As ask your board to ratify the proclamation emergency proclamation that our sheriff signed on January 2nd Required by law within seven days. So January 9th today is the 6th so we're right in that timeline and without further ado I'd actually have to kick us off Thank you

Good morning. Once again, thank you Chair Parvin Board of Supervisors CEO appreciate you as you know I'm not telling anything you didn't know we had a lot of rain the significant storms that we had in December caused us substantial amount of damage to infrastructure property throughout the county And the numbers of that damage are continuing to come in. But as of right now, the estimates were at around 14 million dollars in damage that we sustained as a county.

The rain isn't over for the year yet and the percentages that we've had are just staggering for how much rain we've received so far if there's a A good sign to this at all is that hopefully we don't have any fires. The board knows that I've been here before for several proclamations of emergency disasters because we tend to have a few. This year it happens to be rain and floods, and the damage is very devastating. And so very hard on the communities, very difficult for the counties on their own to do this lift without the assistance of our state and federal partners in hopefully reclaim some of that lost revenue that was spent during these storms. So I think you've seen the proclamation I have a lot of the talking points from if you have any specific questions.

I do have Patrick Maynard here for my Office of Emergency Services and much like Dr. Johnson said, I want to thank my Office of Emergency Services team that anytime there's a forecasted storm like this they're working 24-7. They're responsive to any call email that comes in they have a duty officer whose primary responsibility but then as the storm picks up they're all working. I know Patrick works 24 hours a day he won't tell me that he does but I know he does because I get emails from him all day and night Letting me know the progress of the storm and I just want to make sure that team knows how much I appreciate them and how the county of Ventura is blessed to have such a dedicated staff. And then certainly our partners in first response, I know the fire department had a lot of rescues that they had to perform that were challenges that we have with people that are living in areas that shouldn't be living in.

There are statutes that prevent us from being able to move people out. And unfortunately, that creates a necessity to do these evacuations and emergency rescues which are very dangerous to our personnel and to the people that are being trapped. So my public safety message to the community is when we have rains please stay out and away from the waterways it's in the water moves very quickly. It is a lot to see and since we don't get it nor a lot. It's very impressive to see, but is incredibly dangerous so please stay out of the waterways and when we do come through and ask you to leave please do.

So yeah board have any questions?

Questions no questions just an incredible job I will say that but we're not done yet.

Okay, now my fingers are getting turned on. So it starts on December 24th is when the resolution goes but how long does it go from? Like what is that duration of time to make sure that we can incorporate any of the damage I know there's a timeline when I have to declare an emergency and then as discussed by the CEO you have 10 days from the time that I sign it actually haven't ratified

before so we can send it to The storm obviously started on Christmas Eve and so I think that pretty much anything from that point on, I believe we're going to be covered. But I'll let Patrick speak to the specifics of

it. Well if I could just take this chance to just say thank you very much for being so proactive in making sure we do this. I know we have so many years of experience but to take just a moment to say thank you for it, I just really appreciate it.

Well once again I'd like to thank Patrick for making sure he stays on top of that. He knows the timelines and when we have to have these processes completed even though it's raining, it's the holidays, it doesn't matter. The timelines are the timelines and so he let me know this is what we have to do. We have to have a proclamation that I know he was working with the CEO's office to make sure that you all could be here for this meeting so that we could have it ratified in a timely fashion so that we have an opportunity to recover funds. Thank you.

Thanks Sheriff and good morning Chair Parvin, members of the board and Dr. Johnson for the record Patrick Maynard Director of Emergency Services. First and foremost my apologies for having to convene a special meeting we tried every which way to not have to do this and I know your time is valuable so unfortunately we were left with no other option So Supervisor Long to your question on eligibility, the law requires us to proclaim within 10 days of the start of that incident. So we did do that.

The sheriff proclaimed on January 2nd. We then have to bring it before the board to be ratified within seven days of that proclamation being signed. That proclamation remains in effect for 60 days. But that has no direct correlation on what ultimately gets included or excluded from the actual claim if we are approved for any state or federal funding. What can be complex about flooding incidents is often each storm system is considered an incident And in some cases, they will combine multiple successive storms but we have no assurance of that quite yet. So we did experience a period of rain, a small break and then we went into another period of rain. Of course, we experienced the bulk of that damage during the Christmas Eve, Christmas Day storm but we've also received some damage following that as well.

It'll be our job to present all that information to the state and ultimately if made available to FEMA and plead our case as to why you know all those things should be included They will ultimately set an incident period that gives us a start date and an end date, and we'll have to articulate why our expenses are appropriate for that timeline. So as the sheriff mentioned $14 million in damage looking forward I believe that we will likely not be receiving any assistance from FEMA just based on the magnitude of this. So Ventura County we have 14 million damage talking to my colleagues in L.A. County they have about 40 million. Statewide, we need to have about $74 million in damage to get FEMA assistance.

We're nowhere near that. We've met our local thresholds for FEMA but we also have to meet a statewide threshold and we're nowhere near that so that leaves us looking to the state for the California Disaster Assistance Act program. That program would offer 75% coverage on eligible expenses. So that would leave the county on the hook for 25% of those expenses unfortunately Good news of that 14 million. It's not all county infrastructure. There is some damage up at Lake Piru with United Water Senior Canyon Reservoir had some damage so that comprises about 4 million of the 14 million, but it's still a lot of money for us here locally. So we'll do everything And we'll plead our case with the state as we always do. I know this is unfortunately common for us over the next couple of weeks, we will be meeting with a state to go site-to-site and review all these damages and explain how we come up with these estimates.

And ultimately that information will go back to the state in a determination will be made. One other quick thing I just wanted to address is you may recall the governor did a state of emergency proclamation here in California ahead of these storms and for whatever reason he did not include Ventura County. One thing I can share is that the counties that were included weren't actually asked if they needed that it was just done by the governor's office so they were surprised to be named in this proclamation don't worry Ventura County not being named it's very easy for them to add us So it's likely that once they see our damages, they will be adding us and then again ultimately making that determination on the state funding for us. So with that happy to answer any questions.

Questions? Supervisor LeVere.

Thank you, Madam Chair and the 14 million that's so that's all public damage whether it's us or United we haven't been able to calculate

any private damage yet. So thank you for asking that Supervisor LeVere right now we're aware of about six structures that suffered some type of impact Fortunately, only one of those structures really had any large amount of water that was up at Camp Chaffee. I know it's hard to believe. Shy of that there were some damaged homes out in Camarillo due to a tree falling. Other than that our damage to residential structures has been pretty limited. There is one structure out in Fillmore that has not been damaged yet but likely will be during one of our future storms. It's all on private property and You know, absent any divine intervention will likely be a total loss if nothing is done. So that's really the landscape on the private damages. Okay

thank you.

Supervisor Gorrell.

Thank you the scar print from mountain fire can you talk a little bit about that Mister Maynard in terms of impacts there did you receive any reports back on erosion property owners reporting any erosion or any changes in the landscape there's result to those powerful downpour. Thank you

for that question, Supervisor Garrell. Fortunately things have been pretty decent when it comes to impacts out on the Mountain Fire burn scar. We do hear calls out there for more often than not nuisance type flooding clogged drains and things of that nature. We haven't seen any super significant debris flows or anything that have occurred because of that. There are some isolated issues that have popped up here and there but nothing major so that's good. And you know the more storms we go through It allows us to better understand what half an inch an hour rates or 3 quarters of an inch an hour rates will do to that burn scar.

And gives us a better understanding of when we need to ultimately evacuate are not so no major impacts to speak of the

supervisor long.

Thank you. You mentioned on this is the creek, we have some individuals and we have damage on Santa Paula Creek but I've been asked multiple times about their property actually being taken away like land And what is that? Because you buy a property, and you think it's going to be the same shape as you always have in a creek. What erodes it away? How does that get stopped? How does it get handled? I think everyone has seen a lot of videos from social media, and I thought since we do have people here taking notes, we should talk about that.

Supervisor, if you don't mind I'll actually let the Public Works Director Greg Schlaus answer that question because it's well within their realm and also with what watershed deals with so.

Okay so that will be a question to come so you're ready for it. And then also a question in some of the damage that was done in 22 and 23 of the storms That we have roads that are closed that are still not fixed, but perhaps there's more damage. How do we evaluate that for costs associated like Balcombe Canyon? For example, that has been shut down for a long time.

It's a it's really complicated. You know we really have to show what damage is new and the state or in that case it was FEMA that provided us funding will want to delineate between the two so they're going to look closely at all of our documentation photos videos not just documentation that we provided but their observations back when they inspected those things previously and Draw a line in the sand and say, you know, this was this incident. This is a new incident This is all new stuff so we have to go through that entire process all over again Regardless of whether or not it was damaged before or recently damaged

Okay So that will also be the same for the telegraph road and then also the Santa Paula branch lines train over bridge that they are trying to build and so forth

We will need to differentiate on the damage. I don't want to make it sound as though we won't receive funding or won't be covered by the original project award, but we will need to differentiate between those two things. It's not an automatic that's included so they can be very picky about it. So we will need to present those problems. The telegraph road bridge is on our locations of damaged parcels or you know property that we need to go and look at when the state comes down so they will evaluate them again and they'll want to hear all about that and we'll plead our case.

Okay, and the reason why is there's so much that goes on with just getting things fixed? And for this declaration like how do we deal with you know the nymphs in California's I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions. organizations could help us to build better so we're not here two years later doing this. I just don't know how that can get fixed, so if there's other ways that we as a board can help with that or push for the state or federal, I think that's really important.

Yeah, you highlight a very good point. It's extremely challenging and when it comes to permitting in any of the waterways and I'm sure the public works director can elaborate on that but many of these places we are seeing damage or places that we've seen damaged time and time again. I've said it before right? I'm tired of coming up here and telling you about the same stuff that just continues to be a problem in our County for one reason or another and you know, it's just a an extreme challenge for all of us so

Well, and I stress this concern because for my constituents and for my district there is state and federal organizations that stop us from fixing things.

Yep.

Stop us. And then they come to us and say county is not doing what we need to do when it's not in our control to get that done. And so it's very frustrating. And I'm so sorry for my constituents that are having to deal with this because every time we try to fix something It's like well you have to wait a year or whatever for the state or the federal to agree on all this different stuff and we're trying really hard to just get things fixed. Like I'm already worried about, you know, Telegraph Road if it's one lane with buses getting to school and all that kind of stuff.

And at some point there is a breaking point where we have to come back to the middle and get things done so I just if there are other things ways we can fix I'm not going to get into the details of that. But if there is a way or push to to help with this with emergency declarations, I just really concerned because back in the day we didn't have the issues with clean clearing out the debris and doing the different stuff. There's been so many rules and regulations where it's very hard

Couldn't agree more.

Yeah, sorry but I need to state that because people just I think don't understand the complexity of it and if so anyone who's watching I need you to understand that. So thank you.

All right with that thank you. Thank you

There he comes It's time for public works

Good morning Chair Parvin, members of the Board, CEO Dr. Johnson, Greg Strakoulos Public Works Agency Director for the record I wanted to present information on public works efforts over the course of the last couple weeks In terms of some of the statistics you heard Sheriff Fryhoff talk a little bit about the amount of rain so early in the season. In the Ventura area alone, we've received 16.3 inches and in the 154 years of record keeping it's only the 7th time 10 inches has been exceeded and we're at 16. 3 16.3 happens to be the second wettest during the duration of October and January 5th so it's a significant amount of rainfall so early in the season and we still have more season to go.

Our county roads and bridges are up against nature, they're rural and even prior to the rainfall there were some significant winds that played a role in this emergency blew some trees down some limbs down Then the rains came and all of that heavy rainfall conveyed over the vast areas of land, concentrated and flowed through our creeks, streams and rivers in quantities of tens of thousands of cubic feet per second. And when you've got that kind of water moving it's going to move things with it.

The mud, the rock, the debris. And even man-made infrastructure as we saw here, such as sewer line crossings, bridge slope protection asphalt roads and concrete channels. I just wanted to start out with a general summary of overall public works activities. Even though there have been 43 identified locations where there have been some substantial cleanup or repair, we've been all over the county. We've been looking at the county inspecting it and we've had eyes out there total estimated public works clean up and repairs thus far is about $13.8 million dollars and you see the breakdown between watershed protection I'm going to talk a little bit about what we've been doing over the last couple of years. We've been working on roads, transportation and water and sanitation since Christmas Eve Public Works has worked above and beyond the 80 hour work week about fourteen hundred eighty five overtime hours of staff We've engaged 4 contractors and Dave engage subcontractors.

And there are 3 engineering consultants that were either have been engaged or about to engage with to talk about some of these projects that you'll see upcoming here. The specific emergencies. I want to present to you today where public works has exercised its delegated authority for ordering emergency actions without the committed competitive bidding process is old Telegraph Road bridge Reeves road waterworks district one Starting out with Old Telegraph Road in Supervisor Long's district.

We have, on that road, that road sees about 4,330 trips per day on the average and about 10% of those trips are truck trips. You'll see what the image of the damaged area looked like before the storm because this isn't the first time this happened right? We've repaired this before and that is the repair. The after impacts of the storm, you see a lot of that rock just moved away eroded under the foundation and expose some of the steel pilings.

So currently right now we have some restrictions on traffic flow. Three time wait restriction, it's opened in the eastbound traffic only westbound traffic is redirected to C Street and State Road 126 Reeves Road is the next stop. This is within Supervisor LeVere's District No. 1. You see here the damage of the rushing waters moving closer to the road, eroding the roadway and on the other side of the road is private property but what you don't see here under the portion of the road that hasn't quite been impacted yet is a 20-inch water main There's a gas lane and you see the Edison power poles that are on the other side.

And there is some risk to the private property if that road were to wash out any further. Our emergency repairs thus far were to stop the damage and protect the slope that was there. The water has drained away, enabled us to put some heavy rock there. This isn't the final design or final solution. We'll be right back at it to rebuild that road as part of the emergency response.

Next in Supervisor Parvin's districts while waterworks district when we had a sewer main break there are 6 crossings of the oriole royal see me and one of those crossings was above grade which means it was exposed to the Russian water and whatever was rushing with it. It did break away was an 8 inch gravity sewer pipe So we're going to start with a little bit of background on peak Arroyo flows. We calculated the approximate time that this could have happened and peak flows in your Royal were about noontime on Christmas Day and It might have been about 48,000 gallons of sewage spilled into the rail during that time.

But crews responded immediately. You see on the left hand side in the photos the concrete encased eight inch sewer line that was there. And then our inspection show that it wasn't there. So we had to come in with a quick project and we've talked about this in the event, it might have happened. We came into work with the contractor coordinate with the city of Moorpark and run a temporary pipeline along the Arroyo to the Joel Birchfield pedestrian bridge.

This is a temporary situation until such time We can come up with a design and construct the eventual solution, which will bring the sewer line back under the arroyo but deeper under the arroyo where it's well protected. And lastly, we have the Barlow Branca again in Supervisor LeVere's District 1. We were notified of a situation you see here currently that well not currently but prior to the storms this is an image of the concrete encased stormwater conveyance channel up against a home and an access road to access that it's It doesn't look very deep in this photo, but it is quite deep. It's 12 feet deep and a 220 foot section failed and there was significant risk to private property.

This is what it looked like after that Christmas Day storm event. We had to go in there really quickly to protect the home that was there and get in. Watershed protection staff reported out there with crews What they did is they hired a contractor quickly, worked with them. We had some gabion baskets on hand. We had the rock imported. The contractor loaded the rock into the baskets and you'll see on the right-hand side where a new wall has been established protecting those homes for 120 feet.

And that was done really quickly. In conclusion. We've also been talking to Caltrans a bit and the 10 incorporated cities to kind of gauge how they've been responding during the storm events. Caltrans had some issues on the one oh one and also state road 33. The one oh one is completely opened within Ventura County now. State Road, 33 I believe is still closed in segments up in the northern area.

And as far as city reports, I've heard that they too had to cope with windblown debris down trees clearing debris from storm inlets and drains some of the same things we did but not any other reports of any significant damages that I'm aware of at this point but haven't got all those reports yet. That concludes my report here for questions.

Wasn't there a downed power line as well on the 118? I didn't hear that. I don't know. Well, that wouldn't fall under you anyway but just to add to all the damage.

Yeah, you know my questions here. I just first of all want to say thank you there was a lot of video out there about damage and so forth and I did not see one in El Rio Which is huge because that used to be a place that flooded a lot. And I think that the new changes that have happened with the drains and, and the stormwater, I just want to celebrate that. Because that was wonderful for the community to not have to deal with that as much.

There's so much to say and to question. I wanted to start off with the 2026 with some positives, and I think that that is a really great good designs gets us out of problem areas same thing goes with with Piru. It's 2023, we had all that dirt coming in or 2022-23 and it flooded all the areas. I think that has been good. The culvert, the act getting that in has helped. I know there's obviously always improvements to be made. I know with the storm drain and stuff that things need to be monitored and stuff but I want to say thank you first of all. We thought the telegraph road bridge was good I can't believe the amount of energy to move all those rocks.

And it's, I'm very curious to find out based on the CESB and the Santa Paula creeks what is there any potential for FEMA or NRCS to help us with figuring this out for the long term? Because these patches with the force of water that's coming through isn't as good as we would like.

We are working every step of the way to document photograph and do the things that we need to do that we know we have to do to get reimbursed for some of these projects. I think one of the things that we've been talking a lot about is resiliency, how do we build in stronger more resilient systems as part of our rebuilds? And that conversation ends up with maybe it's going to take a little bit more time and money to get to a more resilient system but we need to have those conversations with the state and federal government to be able to do this so we're not back here again

Well, and I say that because also I know our board coordinate we approved a study to coordinate with the U.S. Corps of Engineers to study the Santa Paula Creeks for the confluence of the Santa Clara River to the bridge to Esteco Park. And can you tell us where that study is? Is there more time? I know we were getting dikes and then they're gone now. What do we do?

I'm going to ask Jeff Palmer

to respond Thank you Chair Parvin, Supervisors, CEO Dr. Johnson. The challenge we have is property ownership. Much of our rivers and streams throughout Ventura County are privately owned when the county incorporated in 1873 and watershed was formed in 1944, we didn't become owners of land that stayed with the private property owners. And so the challenge we have in each of these unique situations is getting through with the state and federal government how to fund improvements on private property that's causing damage to life and property We're very aware of that.

We're working where we can to bring in federal and state opportunities to help us bridge that gap, but from a county perspective, we're limited in where we can spend funds on private property so we have to form partnerships. NRCS has a program that we've used before, Emergency Watershed Protection Program, EWPP. We've used it a couple of times and there's an opportunity to do that now.

I think we're going to continue to struggle through this issue over private property, flood protection, habitat protection under Fish and Wildlife and National Marine Fisheries and other environmental agencies. But it's going to take a village. It's going to take all of us to figure this out.

So an example is that, how do we get it so that property owners can clear out the silt and so forth? Because a lot of that used to get done. It doesn't now because of rules and regulations. How do we get that Fixed so that we can not have it just fan out because if it's deeper, then it can flow better. But you have to clear the rivers out of the slate similar to what we have to do for Cayagas Creek.

So private property owners can take action on their own private property. Our permitting process is not to slow things down. Our permitting process is to make sure whatever people do, they don't cause damage to their neighbors and to make sure that they don't cause damage to the environment. You can't pour wet concrete into the creeks to form a wall or riprap.

And so what we've done and it's on our website is the procedures that people need to follow on private property, and we will help them do that. Our permitting staff and our watershed teams will help people work through the process again those forms in that process is on our website.

And I understand that even if they do get a permit, the rocks and such to get in there is extremely expensive. It's not 100 bucks.

No this is not a cheap endeavor. It is challenging both on a technical basis and a cost basis Our challenge is we can't use public funds. But if there's state and federal funds, we'll help funnel that to people. And if people get a permit to want to do something on their property, we will help facilitate them getting those approvals to do that.

Well then how does this study that we've approved for the Santa Paula Creek, how does that help?

So it's a start. The Santa Paula Creek US Army Corps project is from the mouth with the Santa Clara River up to the top of the fish ladder above the fish ladder all the way to Steckel Park is mostly private and the river is starting to wander like it did centuries ago, it's starting to do that again one of the things we've seen since January 23 both Santa Clara River Santa Paula Creek Ventura River are all forming new paths that we all remember But not that has been happening historically years ago. We went back and looked at aerial photos back to 1945 of some of these areas, and it looks just like it was back in before the January 23 storms. And so we're going to work with our partners at the state and federal level and the private property owners to help them achieve safety for their property and achieve the ability to get their property back.

They can go back and get property that they've lost but we have to follow a process and will help them do that.

Well, and I know on the CESB we talked back in 2023 in regards to Fillmore there was a construction for homes and there was a levy put on one side.

Right.

And that was to ensure that there was not flooding throughout those homes but the other side did not get the same treatment and therefore when you're talking about flow of water if you turn on a hose put your thumb on it sprays in different directions that's similar to how this goes so River comes, it hits that bank and then it ricochets off. What do you do for that?

One of the things we're seeing on the Sespe Creek and it's an area of concern is, is the East Bank, Fillmore, is protected by a levy. The West Bank isn't. It's just natural. And the river starting to eat itself west. And so there's many farms in that area. There have been lots of crops. And then one situation, there's a house and a barn that are very close to the edge.

That property owner can protect their property. It' not cheap but we will help them do that if they would like to do that.

And so their property couldn't get a levy. That's a whole different property and that was private property, it wasn't county that put it in or anything like that?

The levy on the Fillmore side was built by the Army Corps of Engineers. If society wanted if the county if all the partners wanted to build a levy on the west side they could but it would be an entirely new endeavor for quite a bit of distance to protect all those homes and farms along the west side

And so the Army Corps of Engineers did it for that side, but not the other side for a reason.

We don't, I don't know why they did it for one side and not the other side. We find this common, the slide you saw about Barlow Canyon down through the city of Ventura when those homes were built in 58 there was a creek behind those homes. It was just like any other homes and homes in a creek down the middle four years later in 62 Watershed Protection went through an acquired property bought land and built the channel that now has caused a little bit of damage It's that acquiring of property and that funding of levies that is extremely expensive. It's like funding the levy on Ventura River, it's our Santa Clara River 3 levy we're building in Oxnard right now. These are tens of millions of dollars in projects and really require state and federal funding to help us achieve those goals.

Okay, I asked these questions because it's very complex. And I need people to understand this because when you move somewhere and you just think like the electricity just goes on in a home when you flip the switch, it's just supposed to be and there's a lot of history that is beyond this that I know that we've been working for 20, 30, 40, 60, 100 years. And these are big issues for our community and what do we do? I guess is everything you need to help us but how do we help them?

It's really a partnership. It's not something the private property owners can solely fund, we know that it's extremely expensive for them and they only hold control of the property they control and it's also difficult for the county to then acquire right-of-way and build massive you know projects part of the challenge of Ventura County is we are so rural and natural and we like the natural creeks and rivers not the big concrete channels but it's how do we do that in an environmentally sensitive way?

One, I think you just hit the head on the nail. The nail in the head. Oh my brain goes faster than my words sometimes but y'all know that because I've been here for 10 years. So that's the big deal because like for Los Angeles most of the creeks and so forth are cemented in We are very proud of the fact that Santa Clara River is not cemented and it's like the one river in Southern California that's not done. And we need to make sure that they're protected, but we also have to protect the private owners and so forth. So those creeks are really issues. I know we have Matilija Hall Dam and all that kind of stuff that goes on and how important that is. But we have these two and I don't see an answer right now. So I appreciate the conversation.

Thank you.

Supervisor LeVere.

Thank you, Madam Chair and I start by just saying thank you. We saw the images on Reeves Road and the Barlow Branca and significant damage in to see the public works teams out there in the middle of the storm performing that emergency work. It's just incredible. I received a lot of positive feedback from the community and want to express that to you and your team but the whole Public Works Agency stepped up in big ways So thank you.

And I saw, I guess let's talk about Reeves Road first. Obviously you put a detour in place while we figure out long term repairs and thank you. I know there's a dry water crossing on that which you had to keep dry so people could use the detour but what's the plan long term with Reeves Road? I believe next week we're going to be approving an emergency contract

Yeah, we're going to move forward under the delegated authority on that emergency contract to get the contractor out there working. But yes it is to rebuild that road. And if there's a way to make it more resilient from some of what we saw happen this time with bigger boulders maybe some concrete I don't know.

And then Barlow it looks like the work that was done that that's temporary? That is that is temporary right and so the plan is to kind of rebuild that channel.

Well, we're having conversations there's a lot still to learn about where the property line is and where the easements are and different rebuild scenarios. So we want to have that conversation but our intent that what you see in that photo is a temporary situation

okay? And do we have any sense in terms of timing I might be too early even ask like for Reeves Road how long we think it will be before that roads rebuilt I mean the half of it washed away. I get it's not easy. Anita Balin.

Good morning Supervisor Parvin, members of the board, CEO Dr. Johnson and Anita Balin for the record. For Reeves Road, we have a contractor. We're talking to them. We'll have them start work starting Monday so that's good news and probably starting next Monday. We'll have the contractor on board and they'll probably take two to three weeks to at least get that road back in shape

Wow, that's it?

Yeah.

Wow okay.

There might be additional work at least to get the road open it's about a three-week contract.

Oh wow okay and just with the channel I mean how does how is that how is that repair work from a technical standpoint