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Hi, everyone. Relax, we got all your instructions. We're going to get it right maybe. Yes, so we will you'll be you guys will be first. So that you can as you said get back to work Mr. Allen would you like to call the roll please?
Mr. Carbajal?
Here.
Ms. Wolfe? Here. Ms Farr? Here! Mr. Lavagnino? Here Miss Gray?
Thank you and again welcome. And we're going to start with public comment. Mr. Allen, would you please... What we do is we'll call your name and then we have 12, is that correct?
Yes Madam Chair, we have approximately twelve speakers. We have three in Santa Maria but I would like to note that perhaps Council could give us a report from closed session. Oh thank you.
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Madam Chair, thank you. There was one noticed item employer-employee relations for your closed session this morning that closed session was held and there was no reportable action.
Okay and with that we're ready to start and this is the way it works And I'm not going to try and do the one minute thing today because we've got, we don't have that many speakers. So this is the way it works you get your name called and then we call who's on deck? And for those that don't play baseball that means who's up next? And it would be really nice Mr. Nesmith you're it today raise your hand please. It would be nice if you come down and sit right next to Mr. Nesmith and be ready to To pop right up here and give your speech. It just makes it go faster, and then we can hear the whole transition in what everybody's saying. So thank you all for being here, and I better straighten my collar and get ready to go. Mr. Allen, who's up?
We're going to start with John Fajardo to be followed by Gabriela Stubblefield.
Mr. Harlow, you're up. Thank you.
Excuse me, Madam Chair. Morning, Madam Chair and members of the board. My name is John Fajardo. I'm the Santa Barbara Area Vice President of SEIU 721. I don't understand the discussion regarding the Department of Social Services budget In figures provided to us by Joe Pisano and Bob McLeod, 8% of our unit is funded by the General Fund. Over 90% of our unit is in DSS.
And as you know, DSS is funded by state and federal earmark funds. These funds can only be used to provide the services that DSS delivers. Pisano and McLeod tell us that the county's proposals would result in a savings of $375,000 in the general fund. And 4.1 million dollars in the state and federal monies. But the state and federal moneys are earmarked, they cannot be used for general fund purposes.
So unless we are intending to use some kind of accounting sleight-of-hand, the county will actually be losing that $4.1 million. Four point one million dollars that is intended to provide services to the neediest people in our community I challenge each of you to go back to your districts and visit just one women's shelter, and you tell those folks that you're willing to turn your back on $4.1 million in state and federal money that would be used to provide services for them Just because you want to save three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars in the general fund.
Thank you.
Thank you. And the next speaker is folks are not good do that. We don't clap. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Gabriela Stubblefield to be followed by Holly Morris.
Good morning, my name is Gabby Stubblefield and I am a social worker. Unfortunately Theda Parker could not be here today so I will be reading a speech prepared by her.
It would be easier for us if you just kind of tell us what she wants to say?
The key point that I specifically want everybody to hear is that our families are not unique. Most social workers, I know, are faced with the same dire circumstances. We work hard in a difficult and dangerous job to protect abused and neglected children. The proposed cuts would not serve the community. The cuts will force trained qualified people who are passionate about their work into new jobs Just to be able to afford simple standard living of life.
Thank you very much, and our next speaker is
Holly Morris to be followed by Katrina Vogt
Welcome good morning My name is Holly Morris and I've been a social worker with Child Welfare Services for five-and-a-half years. Currently assigned to the Assessment and Investigations Unit for the past four. For those of you who do not know what that involves, I investigate child abuse and neglect in our community in Santa Maria area. I investigate these allegations in various places.
Homes, schools, hospitals, homeless shelters, even on the streets. Due to the recent economic crisis, the need for my services has greatly increased. As social workers, we go out into the community by ourselves not knowing what is behind the doors we are knocking on. We go to homes armed with only a cell phone and a clipboard. I've been exposed to drug raids, methamphetamine, heroin, threats, curses and loaded firearms.
I've been charged at, screamed at and vomited on. I picked up children covered in lice, scabies, feces and urine. I have responded to calls where children have died. You're probably wondering why I do this? For as long as I can remember, I've wanted to help children and be a social worker. I owe this desire to a little girl named Cece. I learned about her abuse when my parents brought her home from foster care. I strive every day to save the lives of our community's children.
No child deserves to suffer like my sister Cece did. I'm a mother, a sister, an aunt, a daughter, a wife, and a dedicated servant in this community. I go home every day emotionally fatigued, the bruised and sad faces of the day's children burned to my brain. I wake up in the morning, pick up my cell phone and my clipboard and walk out the door not to just spread the community of child abuse but also for my own family. I have two little boys, Colony at age three and one.
If you choose to cut my pay, my salary will drop $900 approximately each month. Today I live paycheck to paycheck and barely make ends meet. I pay over $1,000 a month in daycare loans so I can serve this community. If my pay is decreased we will lose our home. We will be homeless seeking shelter probably from a relative. I'm asking you seriously to consider your impact your decision will have on not only my children but the children I serve and protect each day. I love my job and my family passionately please don't make me choose between the two thank you. Thank you very
much and our next speaker
Is Katrina vote to be followed by Heather race.
Heather.
Race.
Welcome. Thank you.
My name is Katrina Vogt, and I've been a social worker with Child Welfare for the past 12 years. I've been assigned to our ongoing unit and work directly with children who have been removed from their homes due to abuse and neglect, and whenever possible reuniting these families. Our caseloads are high and involve the most complex job duties require up to two years of on-the-job training. In addition, I cover after hours emergency services responding to law enforcement's call for assistance when children are in imminent danger.
All of my job duties have exposed me to dangerous, difficult and emotionally draining situations. I've been threatened by a parent high on meth, traveled at 3am in the morning in the pouring rain to take an infant into custody, attempted to stifle my own tears when a two year old held onto me for dear life crying for his mommy after she was arrested not to mention being exposed to hepatitis, lice, scabies, urine and feces. During my years of service, I've seen many social workers come and go getting burnt out due to the high workload and emotional stress. And witnessed our agency struggle to recruit and retain social workers who can do the job as well as maintain the high cost of living here. When I tell people what I do for a living they say wow I couldn't do that job how do you do it?
And it's from knowing I've helped protect a child from harm and the gratitude I receive from our families. I retain a passion and commitment to this work and provide critical services for our community's most vulnerable population. I was raised, my husband was raised here and I stayed here after graduating from UCSB earned my master's degree. In 2008 we welcomed the birth of our twins and were able to purchase a very small condo. Unfortunately due to the recession my husband's work hours were cut and the majority of our finances fall upon me to cover One whole paycheck just covers our mortgage and our children's health care. And the other paycheck just covers our food, utilities, student loans and child care. If the county chooses to move forward with a proposed cut store pay, our family as well as many coworkers will not be able to meet monthly expenses in our dream of homeownership will be short-lived.
I sincerely ask you to please take this into consideration when reviewing our budget, not only for our family's sake but for the community's sake as well. As a mother, a union member and a social worker and a member of your community, I have a stake in ensuring that Santa Barbara County is financially stable. However, I truly believe we can achieve this together in a way that doesn't harm your employees and the services we provide like the current proposals do.
Thank you very much.
Our next speaker is Heather Race to be followed by Ray Ibarra.
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Good morning. My name is Heather Race and I work with Child Welfare Services. I've been there for a little over 10 years now, and I know that for the last few days you've been hearing from various departments and organizations within the county regarding the county's budget, and I know that managing the budget in this kind of an economy can be and must be a monumental task. For that reason, I appreciate the opportunity to speak to the board today about specific county proposals that are directly affecting me and my co-workers. The county is proposing cuts that total a 16.76% loss of pay for myself and my coworkers. I don't have to explain to you, my coworkers have, the ways in which these cuts would be devastating for us and our families. The cuts proposed by the county have no end date, and the county has refused to support less drastic shorter-term solutions such as mandatory furloughs.
The members of our community are being misled into thinking that by making these cuts, the county is addressing the concerns voiced by the community about overpaid county employees with their big retirement packages. However, the cuts proposed affect only those of us who are already on the low end of the pay scale. Those in management positions, those who have six figure salaries and receive bonuses Barbara County Supervisors meeting However, what the county is doing is taking advantage of the current economical and political climate and the cries for pension reform.
And they are making a big show of digging deep and making big cuts when really the proposed cuts would end up saving them so little just 0.1%. So please ask yourselves if it seems reasonable for the county to continue to give managers six-figure salaries with bonuses on top While they suggest that I take a 16.76% pay cut to my $60,000 a year salary with all due respect don't be fooled and please consider asking the county to do a little more to support the employees. Thank you thank you for your thoughts. Ray Ybarra.
Our next speaker is Ray Ybarra followed by Bruce Korshoff.
Good morning. With all due respect, could I defer to the folks in Santa Maria? Some of them have to get back to work. Some of them have calls.
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Let's go to the folks in Santa Maria. Do you have a way you want that one done? Just do it.
We'll go to Santa Maria. Our first speaker there is Dave Stockdale.
Dave Stockdale? And followed by?
To be followed by Tara Brown.
Tara Brown.
I'm not speaking for SEIU, but my name is Dave Stockdale. I am requesting that you restore full funding for the North County Jail and direct the Sheriff to use those funds accordingly. I appreciate your situation. All week you've heard pleas from one interest group after another claiming the sky will fall if their project is not funded. But the North County Jail is manifestly different In this case, Mayor Lavinino and Mayor Alvarez eloquently and urgently stated that reducing hours at the jail would be disastrous.
The chiefs of the three most affected agencies, the Guadalupe and Santa Maria Police Departments and the California Highway Patrol itself all said exactly the same thing. It's a disaster. This is a chorus of people who deserve to be listened to and a chorus that our supervisors should not ignore These people have earned the right to be heeded on an area so critical to their constituencies.
So where will the money come from? Simply put, the $1 million recommended to be set aside for a new jail in the future should be allocated to keep the current North County Jail functioning. I agree wholeheartedly with Supervisor Wolf that it makes absolutely no sense to set aside a million dollars toward a future jail when there is no funding source to either build it or maintain it.
Make no mistake, the voters will never approve a dedicated tax for a county jail. We are tapped out. The message of the defeat of Measure S was not merely that we wanted you to plan ahead The message was that we want structural change. We need you to reduce excessive salaries and pensions, and encourage business growth to increase revenue. This won't happen this year, and setting aside a million dollars won't make any difference.
I disagree firmly with Supervisor Carbajal's statement that it is up to the county to take care of the county and let the cities look to themselves. Each taxpayer's taxes fund them all. It makes no sense to a taxpayer for the county to save $1 million by closing the jail, and for the city and CHP to spend millions more driving offenders to Santa Barbara. No one is foolish enough to put a dollar in one pocket if he knew it would cost four dollars from the other pocket.
Yet that is exactly what the Sheriff's recommending. He should know better. He appears to be playing a game of political chicken that is beneath his office and a disservice to the people of Santa Barbara County. Supervisor Farr has been a firm supporter of the North County Jail until this year, I urge you to continue that support and not relent just because the Sheriff persists yet another year in playing politics with our safety.
I commend Supervisor Lavinino for fighting the good fight on this. I hope my own Supervisor Gray will stand with you in demanding full funding And not fall prey to the alternative of only opening three nights, which is no more than a band-aid. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Tara Braun to be followed by Wendy Summers.
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Good morning. As many of my colleagues who are here know I have a terrible fear of public speaking yet this proposal is so crucial to me and my family that I'm here doing one of the things I hate the most I'm a county employee, but I am so much more than that. My name is Tara Braun and I am a social worker. I am a single mom. I feel very blessed to own a home.
And I'm proud that I was able to purchase it on my own. The paint is peeling and the front yard is weeds, but it's my family's beautiful mess. And in my dreams, I envision it painted with a pretty front yard, working sinks, and toilets that flush. I've been waiting for the day when I can afford to make all that happen Right now, we live paycheck to paycheck. There is no savings. We don't have Netflix. We don't have a gym membership. We don't have a gardener. We've canceled the newspaper. We haven't had a vacation in four years.
We do however qualify for reduced utilities. It appears that the proposed budget cut will not have a dramatic effect on the state of the county but it will have a dramatic and devastating effect on my life and the lives of many of the other county employees If this proposal goes through, I will not be living paycheck to paycheck anymore dreaming of the time I can make home repairs.
There will not be a home on which to make repairs. I will lose it and I know that I will not be the only one. We are partners in this. The economic outlook is bleak but we can come up with an alternative solution together. Can't we? I recognize that the board has a difficult decision ahead and I know it won't be made lightly I hope I and many colleagues here in Santa Maria and in Santa Barbara have made a difference in the outcome of your decision. And I thank you for your time.
Thank you for your time.
Is Wendy Summers to be followed by Dawn Manalo?
Good morning, my name is Wendy Summers and I too am a social worker You've already heard from many of my colleagues and so I don't wish to reiterate what they state. I think that you really do understand the impact that our job has on the community. We don't know what's behind that door when we call on it, and you've heard many stories about the difficulty of our job but of course we do this because of the intrinsic rewards.
The intrinsic rewards include helping families. I came across a mom yesterday who hugged me and thanked me She was suicidal when I came across her. She was like many of us, she's hardworking, she's an outstanding member of the community and her mental health conditions because of the economy started to deteriorate. We were able to be there in time, get her the help that she needed and she thanked me yesterday for being alive for her children and her children still have their mama.
I had another gentleman yesterday who came up he is a 50 year old man Had lost his job, a master electrician. He's lost his home and ultimately he has come to drug and alcohol to self-medicate and put him in a situation where he can no longer care for his children not out of lack of desire because he desires to be a good father but just because of the conditions in the state that he was in we were able to provide help for him, for his family And he hugged me yesterday and thanked me for helping him become a better man. He's the one who did the hard work, but we were the ones that were able to provide him the guidance that he needed.
We have children that come up to us and hug us and thank us and say thank you for listening. Thank you for being the one who heard me. Thank you for being the one to protect me. And those are the intrinsic rewards that we receive for doing this job. As most of you know, we are on the lower end of the pay scale In my unit, the Assessment and Investigations Unit, there are seven of us that work here in Santa Maria. Four of us possess master's degrees.
We already earn 35% less than the national average of a person who has gone to pursue higher education and get a master's degree. Again we do it for the intrinsic rewards. We do it for the essay my son wrote last year about who his hero is. And his hero was me, his mom. Because his mom goes out into the community and helps people, it makes a difference in families.
My son is now 16. He's a product of when our economy was doing well and when his mom was doing well. When he had everything he could ask for not a care in the world financially. He doesn't regret all the sacrifices that he has had to make so that I can take a job that is more fulfilling and more satisfying. He never holds it against me when I tell him that there are things that he wants to have That he cannot have because we can no longer afford them. We've already lost our house and our cars and everything else due to the economy. My husband is a contractor, and I am now our primary source of income because of the economy.
Thank you. Your time's up. Our next speaker, Mr. Allen? Thank you.
Our next speaker is Dawn Manalo to be followed by Andy Caldwell who's our final speaker in San Mario.
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Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the Board. My name is Dawn Manalo. I'm a social worker for Child Welfare Services and I've worked for Santa Barbara County for nearly 20 years. I hold a master's degree in Social Work and I am proud to serve the children and families of this community in public service. My colleagues and I routinely work well over 40 hours per week that we're paid.
We're on call evenings weekends and holidays to protect children and serve families. You've already heard Some of the circumstances in which we work, we do this work to assure and promote safety and well-being. We work at risk to our own personal safety and to the detriment of our own families. Supervisor Lavinino I am your neighbor. I live just down the street from you. I live very modestly in a tiny cottage and I drive a 22 year old car.
If these wage cuts are enacted I'll lose my home Please don't balance the budget on the backs of your dedicated employees who already work tirelessly to protect children and help families in this community. Thank you, and now you'll hear from our Chapter President Ray Ibarra.
Thank you.
One final speaker in Santa Maria and that's Mr. Caldwell to be followed by Ray Ibarra back here in Santa Barbara.
Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm using general public comment right now to repeat what I said yesterday and that is the public cannot speak to what the board has proposed with respect to restorations until we know where the money's coming from I've been searching the county website this morning on every agenda this week, including today's. And I still see no indications other than what Supervisor Farr mentioned the other day of where you plan to get the money for your wish lists.
And then asking you to continue this meeting until you publish that list because that money has got either come out of reserves And you're already down below $10 million in reserves, or it's going to have to come from cuts elsewhere. Unless you're planning and hoping and wishing and praying that you're going to be able to make these restorations due to the salary and benefit cuts you're gonna take out of employee checks which is I'm assuming why SEIU is here en masse.
We want to reiterate, you have a $220 million backlog in public works. A $275 million in capital maintenance, $75 million backlog there. You're probably about a billion dollars short in your pension funds and not only do we want Chandra Wallace's plan to start setting aside money for the new jail, we want the existing jail in North County maintained Many of you give speeches throughout the year that we're not a North or a South County, we're one county. And yet you're contemplating taking cops off the streets in Santa Maria, taking highway patrolmen off the freeways and highways, and you're thinking of taking county sheriffs off their beat. Supervisor Gray, we're going to call on you to ask the sheriff just how many people does he have on patrol in Orkut And Los Alamos and Vandenberg Village in the evening to begin with.
Are we going to be left with absolutely no cops on the beat because they're hauling somebody down to Santa Barbara, because we've closed the jail? And thus far on the wish list Supervisor Lavinino looks like he's the only one that's pushing for the funding. If you can't do better than this I think it may be time for some of you to resign Thank you.
Our next speaker is Ray Ibarra here in Santa Barbara, followed by Bruce Corso.
Good morning, Chair Gray and I appreciate you accommodating us so that our fellow county employees can go back to work and serve the public again. And also, I want to thank my fellow employees in Santa Maria. And also just a comment, I would also like to work very closely with Andy Caldwell on bringing more revenue into this community. We need to bring revenue in here. But anyway, you'll be hearing about that a little later on.
Okay good morning ladies and gentlemen members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Ray Barra, Chapter President, Santa Barbara Chapter, SAL Local 721. Before you I don't know if you received but you were given some Some binders with comments and quite frankly, photographs of the county employees. And I invite you right now to thumb through these. These are your fellow county employees.
The sign behind me, and these are the everyday people that you see for example like your neighbor down the street. These everyday people they're not faceless. They're people that help the community there they serve their community. These are the individuals that go out on calls late at night in support of law enforcement, the sheriffs. Take children into custody, children that have scabies, that have been abused, have feces all over them. These are the members of your community to work with. Also those people who work in the reception area when you have clients that come in and they're upset And they look at you folks, because you're the folks they believe write the policies. Who are the first people that get something thrown at them? It's the people in the reception area.
I'm an eligibility worker. I've always been proud of being a public servant. I've never made bones about that. I deal with those folks that never thought they'd find themselves having to deal with the economic reality of the Wall Street manipulation. OK, these are small businesspeople The other things that I have to tell you and then I could go again reinforcing, I don't want to take too much time. But I invite you folks to look at that. These are not nameless people.
As a matter of fact we have a bunch of these cards from people that are supportive, that are concerned about what's happening out in the community. Your negotiator to work with us in good faith. I believe it was you Supervisor Wolf who when I was up here the last time wanting to partner with you, we know we have to work with you. I've never made bones about that. I said it to you publicly. I said it to you privately. We need to work on this together so you need to insist that your negotiator working good faith and give you the full information. You know we've provided 50 proposals.
The scene was proposals that we provided. Remember a contract from our recovering law student, a contract is a bargain for exchange. Okay? We need to work together on this. Every time we sit across from the negotiator it's the same thing no no no I feel as if I've been at these negotiations with the same comments year after year so I appreciate the time and your hard decision thank you.
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Do we have other speakers?
Madam Chair, our next speaker is Bruce Corsaw to be followed by Dominic Pallera.
Hang on a minute. Rachel did you want... Did everyone want to go back to work? That was what you indicated to me so do you want me just kind of take a moment and let you go? Okay Mr. Corslaw.
You're ready.
Thank you.
Madam Chair, members of the board. I've been here most of the week listening to your budget. Unfortunately, I was not able to cover one thing on Wednesday after HR made their presentation and that was their pride of cutting $11 million in concessions from their employees. Local 620 was the majority of that $11 million. Year prior we had an excess of $5 million in concessions.
Currently, we are at the table. The county is asking for an excess of $25 million from local 620 members. We've offered up so far over $10 million in concessions and we're still negotiating. The thanks that we get for this is that many of our people who do not hold masters, who do not have higher education, who does the front line work will most certainly lose their house. The thanks we get for this is also 80 layoffs proposed We don't know what much more we can give you. Every department we have is down to such a minimum staffing level that you might as well start closing down departments.
Then, you can have your management there but you will not have enough staff to help the public. Your job is to serve the public. Our job is to serve the public but if we're not there they're not going to be served. In regards to the jail, we also support maintaining the opening I've maintained the small jail up in San Maria. If you close that jail, there'll be increased costs as well.
What concerns me about this budget process is we requested budget meetings, workshops prior You guys in one week have been given the opportunity to review each department's budget. I know many of you have not received your full answers to your request for information, I can guarantee you we have not. I also agree that you should not pass this budget today until you do enough sufficient investigation And work to pass a budget you can be proud of.
Not just a budget to say, you've got one done and protect the services of the public and protect the employees that have been loyal who sacrificed for you. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next speaker. All right. I'm going to let you folks go back to work. Thank you very much for being here. And we'll just take a moment and let you
Thank you.
Okay, we're ready to go.
Our next speaker is Dominic Pallera to be followed by
Sean Lambert.
Dominic? Good
morning Chairman Gray and members of the board. My name is Dominic Pallera and I'm here today representing the Insurance Managers Association. The Sheriff's managers are acutely aware of the budget crisis facing the county, not only as it relates to the sheriff's department but our other departments within the county family. We know that the cuts that are proposed this week and that will be made today will have a ripple effect and the problems that it will cause will be faced by the men and women both on the street and within our jail.
And as I look at the department as it is going to come out of these budget cuts, depending on what is here today. I see a department that looks like it did in 1983 when I was hired and I assure you the many mandates problems and challenges facing the men and women on the street today and in our jails is far greater than it was in 1983 And yesterday I also heard Supervisor Carver-Hall mention that his priorities for restoration was going to be made based on where he believed concessions were going to be had.
And I can tell you the Sheriff's Management Association has stood by Sheriff Brown and worked with the county over the years as we have come through these hard and difficult budget times. We have taken a reduction in our staff of over 28 percent, we have not come before this board or asked the sheriff to fight for those positions because we understood anything that we did would save jobs both on the street and in the jail.
And anytime the county has called the Sheriff's Management Association, we have been the first to respond and meet with them and offer solutions. And I also hear today where people accuse the sheriff of playing political football with some of the proposed cuts he has. And I can tell you, we have been living with this for months. We have worked with the sheriff. The sheriff's managers know what each and every cut proposed by the sheriff is going to mean to the men and women and to the citizens of this county.
It is not political football that he is playing and we stand behind him on his proposed cuts. And finally I ask you all, you all have stated that public safety is the number one priority. Well if it's the number one priority today is a day where you show where you put actions behind those words because the citizens of this county deserve to live in a community where public safety and their protection is the number one priority And again, the Sheriff's Managers fully stand behind the Sheriff on these proposed cuts and we would ask you to consider restoring some of the reductions that he is faced with. Thank you very much.
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Chair Gray and fellow board members. My name is Sean Lammer, and I'm a director for the Deputy Sheriff's Association. I'd like to say that first of all we fully understand the position that all of you are in. It's a position that I would not want to change. The DSA Board and DSA membership understand the state of the economy. Every one of our members feels it just as much as the county as a whole feels it.
I'm here today to speak to you based upon comments that were made during yesterday's session, to develop an understanding of what the DSA has done and what we are currently doing. The DSA is a proud organization that has historically and consistently made concessions that benefited the county as a whole. We have always voted to do what we felt was right between balancing labor needs and the county's needs.
Currently, the DSA is providing a cost savings to the county at a rate of $1.6 million for this year and the same amount in the next fiscal year for the total cost savings of 3.2 million. The DSA is actively meeting with the county in efforts of saving jobs for our represented employees. The DSA has already met several times mid-contract and our next meeting is scheduled for next Wednesday with the county at 9am.
I cannot speak on what we will be discussing, but can guarantee that the board will be making every effort to best serve our members as well as the county. We have always and will always be open to dialogue with the county as we take our community's issues very seriously. Thank you all for the opportunity to speak today. My comments were simply to remind the board what the DSA has historically done and what the DSA is currently doing to assist the county. Please keep in mind that the DSA is actively participating in dialogue with the county as well, thank you.
Thank you for your comments
Our next speaker is Dee Hamby to be followed by Leah Juniper.
Good morning, Chair and members. On behalf of as a community member and a child and parent advocate I'm calling for the restoration of the two deputy district attorneys who work in the drug treatment courts and two social workers at the public defender's office as well. The loss of these social workers would mean the withdrawal from all treatment courts And the impact of these loss of these social workers include the inability to get people out of jail and into treatment, which will result in lead to continued overcrowding in our county jails. So I respectfully ask for your support in keeping these or restoring those positions.
Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker?
Our next speaker is Leah Juniper to be followed by Emily Allen.
Hi, I'm Leah Juniper with Consumer Advocacy Coalition. Good morning Chair Gray and the rest of the supervisors. I find it hard to believe that not one of you prioritized funding for CARES. The Santa Barbara grand jury report focused on the mentally ill Possibly substance abusing, uninsured, indigent, hopeless, homeless, cycling in and out of our county jails.
These are exactly the people who need more alcohol drug and mental health services not less. People with mental illness have already lost important services over the last years. Please do not cut more. Thank you our next speaker is
Emily Allen to be followed by Ladd Handelman.
So good morning chair and supervisors I'm very glad to see that most of the rest most of the restorations that many of us have supported are on your list for today's deliberations however I'm concerned that some important items do not appear to have your full support first as was already mentioned the social worker at the Public Defender's Office I moved to Santa Barbara in first grade. Before that, I lived in Mendocino County where my father was the chief public defender and then later the elected district attorney. And I grew up with the understanding that for justice to be served both sides need strong teams.
You've already heard what from many people in the community why social workers in the Public Defender's Office are very important. Later when I was in law school in Los Angeles, I started volunteering with Public Council, an organization that did outreach to people who are homeless. I continue to do that work here in Santa Barbara and I frequently find that I'm helping homeless people who are also veterans.
I'm very concerned that there does not appear to be full support for the Veterans Service Program, which assists approximately 1,600 county veterans annually in obtaining benefits from the Veterans Administration. We know that the urgency of the problem is only going to grow as more veterans return from Iraq and Afghanistan. If you want to address the problems identified in the grand jury report of the vicious cycle of mentally ill, possibly substance abusing uninsured indigent homeless individuals cycling in and out of the jail. This budget does not do that.
The cuts to cares in the Veterans Service Program will only make the problem worse. Right now it appears that there are more helicopters than we may need and less services for the people who need them most. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you for being here.
Our next speaker is Lad Handelman to be followed by Dale Pavich.
We're going to have to wait for Lad, I think.
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Thank you for this opportunity and I've requested you. I'm not able to sustain my sentences because of my condition, so I've asked my friend Abigail to read my statement to you.
Okay? Thank you Mr. Handelman.
I am Ladd Handelman, local resident and co-founder of the educational nonprofit SOS. Most of you are aware that none of this would have been necessary had you opted to support offshore oil development a few years ago when the opportunity came up. Expert and objective economic analysts, such as Mark Schneip, have demonstrated that property taxes alone from development would bring in $340 million per year for over 20 years.
This injection of $340 million per year would solve our budget problems and then some. The record demonstrates that utilizing and enforcing much stricter regulatory requirements has eliminated the cause of the 69 spill. Staying with that regimen and limiting development to slant drilling and or conventional shallow waters, what happened to cause the 69 spill will never happen again.
The key initial step to start the new development process is only for you, supervisors, to state your support. And yet you sit here today turning your back on this economic solution because of the so-called risk. You deny us revenue and instead place our community at indisputable risk. You base your opposition to development solely on the risk of another 69 spill, even though all statistical and factual evidence points otherwise. To claim this risk is speculation.
There is no speculation that when sources of funding are diminished government services, public safety and health especially are diminished. All these consequences are set to happen because the county cannot afford to support these services without new revenue. What I say is that the largest thing we cannot afford is the consequence of continuing to indulge in antiquated rhetoric opposing offshore development.
There's no speculation that this will be the result, rather even though some will always claim there is risk, I implore you to bite the bullet to accept the record of proven and safe development so new revenues can soon commence and we can repair the damage. What we need is fiscal sustainability, and offshore development provides that. People now understand the pollution comes not from platforms but instead from huge underwater oil seeps.
They understand that while the damage caused by the 69 spill was severe it was short-lived and afterwards the marine environment was back to normal. They have witnessed that the result of oil extraction has been beaches with far less oil tar. Public awareness and circumstances have changed. The question is, how many of you have the courage to change as well?
Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you Mr. Handelman for being here. And our next speaker
The next speaker is Dale Pavich to be followed by Ysenia DeCasal.
Good morning Madam Chair, I'd like to speak about the Protective Pay Program. I am a retired social worker 30 years experience and would like to say regarding pro-pay necessity is the mother of a lot of things including innovation Perhaps those in the nonprofit community-based organization world can collaborate with our public guardian's office to save this essential program.
Sadly, as many counties and municipalities have learned when programs such as protective pay are targeted due to budget shortfalls The burden is shifted to other institutions including hospitals, jails, our courts and our challenged mental health providers and public safety providers. Applications for conservatorships rise and government agencies are then responsible, so to speak, to provide institutionalized care at the monetary cost of which is staggering.
Not to mention the human costs in personal suffering. Perhaps our electeds can collaborate in lieu of cutting programs such as ProPay Appoint innovation minded representatives from stakeholder groups and preserve essential programs like this. Pro pay services can then be offered by one or more of our many non-profit agencies At a reduced cost all across our county with guidance and oversight provided by a group of quote experts designated by a board appointed disability support network. It's a new idea, so I'm suggesting some different ways of innovating around this budget challenge.
The fact remains that representative payee services are a necessity for many of our disabled citizens. Santa Barbara County can choose to establish a demonstration project for others to imitate. We can choose to preserve and reduce the cost of administering these life-saving services, and be rewarded for our efforts 1,000 times over. Thank you.
Thank you very much. And our next, I think final speaker? No.
Our next speaker is Dale Pavich to be followed by, oh no, Xenia De Casal to be followed by Stephanie Epperton.
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Thank you and good morning to the board. I'm here one more time speaking on behalf of the more than 2,000 IHSS home care providers of Santa Barbara County to ask you that before you make a decision on the budget for the county that you take a second look at the proposed cuts by the Department of Social Services A few of you admitted on Wednesday that there's a cushion and that there is some room in the budget to work, to save some of the essential services to our aging and disabled community like the Adult and Aging Network which would cost $65,000. And we believe it would take not much more than that to save more than 100 out-of-workers from losing all their benefits.
And possibly their job. So please don't pass a budget until you take a second look at the proposed cuts that include getting rid of the contract mode for IHSS. There's no other group of workers in the county that is being asked to give up all their benefits than these 100 out-of-workers, and please take that into account. We also heard that it was announced that the Department of Social Services budget includes or is accounting for $10 an hour for our wages.
So, the money's there and what's also there is a federal injunction that does not allow counties to lower our wages. So if that's the case, we don't understand why the department in this county is asking the state to lower our wages. So we're asking that letter be taken away, that it be rescinded. The idea of lowering provider wages that work for IHSS Should not even be considered when it brings Santa Barbara monies from the state and federal government.
And that's what we need in a time like this to actually stimulate our economy, not push away dollars from Santa Barbara. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Stephanie Eppert to be followed by our final speaker Jim McClure.
Good morning. Good morning. I'm sorry that you all have to go through what you're going through also. Thank you. Well, I don't know what else to say that I haven't pleaded for before I used to feel like a salmon swimming up the stream, but now it's like I'm dog pedaling in the middle of an ocean and there's no land in sight. Not only are people like us fighting for what little income we get, we are being chewed up and spit out by the interest rates and fraudulent practices by the companies that our government bails out.
I can only hope that I get to a point where I can file bankruptcy and see what money it is I do make. And if you can't save us the dollar an hour maybe you can open up Section 8 and pay the rent for those of us who will need it. Although it boosts the economy for the already rich, I don't see how the money spent on the tourist attractions can be more important than us. I'm so tired of watching people come and get to stay in more hotels, more entertainment clubs and parks when I can't even get near them.
Please there are other programs that can be put on hold for now. I went to the mall for the first time in six years for my daughter's prom because it was a necessity. And I probably won't go again until I ring the Christmas bell. I don't care about dog patrols or if birds have homes are spared. I'm a human being that's worked since I was 12, and I can barely hang on to my home. Maybe if the Board of Supervisors across the state can also take the mandatory 3.6 cut and other hourly paid county and state workers take $1 an hour cut we can actually be given what was originally promised when this all began. None of you would be affected by the hardship that will be inflicted on us. I know you feel for us, and maybe none of you have actually had disabled children I also have a note here that someone who couldn't make it.
Board of Supervisors, my name is Mary Traver and because I'm home with my mother she can't be left alone I cannot be here to ask you in person. Be honest, how many of the five of you have ever had to have Top Ramen for meals because you can't afford much else? Seriously do what we do and make what we make for one month then see if you'd want your pay cut decreased and also worry for your family member and Addis clients. It's my belief you probably don't have a clue about what real life of hardworking people like us Thank you, Mary Trapper. Thank you very much. Thank
you. I just saw another person bring up a speaking slip. We'll go ahead and recognize that person but is there anyone else in the audience that intends to speak because we won't take any more? And who are you calling Mr. Allen?
We're going to call Darrell West and then we're going to follow that with Anna Campbell and then Jim McClure will be our final speaker. Okay.
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Good morning. I'm sorry, I really wasn't prepared to speak today but I did just want to reiterate what was brought to your attention a little while ago is that every Addis employee all the employees that were just mentioned do earn sick vacation holiday pay and health insurance. And many of them have come before you in the past because they have worked for us, many of them for over 20 years. Many of them make close to $12 an hour so by losing the agency mode these same individuals will be asked to come to work July 1st Having lost their health insurance, their sick and vacation pay, their holiday pay to do the same exact work. So I do want to just stress that one more time. Thank you for your time. Thank you.
Anna Campbell be followed by Mr. McClure who's our final speaker?
And hang on just a minute so I can tell people what we're going to do. As soon as Mr. McClure finishes, we're going to take about a 10-minute break. It'll give everyone a chance to kind of reshuffle around and get AV stuff set up and then we'll be back. We'll start with the CEO that will give us synopsis of what's happening And then if we have received a tentative kind of what happened yesterday, we've had chance to take a look at that. If there are folks that are on the Board of Supervisors that see they want to make a change, it will indicate that. If not, we'll kind of conclude the action. So thank you Ms. Campbell and you're to speak now.
Yes, thank you Chairman Gray and Supervisors. My name is Anna Campbell and I read in the paper this morning that the warming centers were on the list to be restored and I just want to commend you for that. I believe that the deaths that have happened from people Sleeping out in the cold and rain are perhaps the most significant public health emergency that our county faces, and I appreciate your recognition of that need.
I want to mention just a few other things that I hope can be restored to the budget, and these have to do all with public safety First of all, the DA's office and the public defender's office have social workers attached to them which make it possible to help direct people who what they really need is treatment. into treatment behavioral health programs that will help prevent them from continuing the revolving door between jail and homelessness.
So I hope that these social workers in the DA's office and the Public Defender's Office can be restored Most importantly, CARES. It's just two positions. Two psychiatrists are being cut from the CARES staff. The CARES facility has already had serious cuts and I would like to see those two psychiatrist positions restored as well as As the money for medications, which are given again in times of emergency. This is a public health issue as well as a safety issue.
And then I would like to see Sheriff Brown has indicated that he has figured out a way to operate the North County Jail for less money I hope that you will speak to him about that and look at the possibility of keeping the North County Jail open. All of these measures that I mentioned will be cost-effective, they will save more money by being restored than it would cost to... than there would be the cost of taking them out when you consider all the time spent transporting people All the time spent rearresting people on the streets, all the time spent dealing with the health problems of those who aren't getting to be able to enter the mental health system through CARES. So I think that all these will be cost effective and I hope that you can find a way to restore these very modest cuts.
Thank you. Thank You
Ms. Campbell.
Our final speaker is Mr. McClure.
Mr. McClure welcome
Good morning Madam Chair and Board. I am Jim McClure, the Assistant Clerk Recorder Assessor. We submitted a budget expansion request for $350,000 due to the state suspending reimbursement for previously performed elections filled by mail expenses. We have proposed using restoration designation as a funding source since the balance in this Resulted from savings achieved in the special election for Senate District 15 last August.
If we have to absorb this loss of revenue, we will be required to further reduce the assessor staff which will result in slower response times a lower quality of work and both temporary and permanent losses In property tax revenues to schools, cities, special districts and the county general fund. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. McClure with that the board will take a 15 minute break there abouts we'll be back at quarter after 10. ♪ ♪ Yeah. ¶¶ ¶. ♪ ¶. Hi. ♪ Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
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Okay, we're back in session. Thank you for taking the time out and thank all of you again for the good speeches that you gave and the hard work that you've done. Ms. Waller let's go to you and have you tell us what you have
in mind. Thank You Chairwoman can we bring up the slide please? What I have attempted to do is Bring us back to where I believe we were at the end of the day yesterday and I sorted a little bit differently than what it was sorted yesterday. To enable us to focus on those items that I believe that you have consensus on and real quickly, I'd like to just kind of go down it and then chair I would suggest We asked the board members if we got anything wrong on there, and then I would ask that you turn it back to me for some thoughts and suggestions on possible funding sources. And then we'd certainly like to have more discussion and direction. So if that's okay with you? That's fine. Okay. So just to, and by the way this information has been put on our website and is available at the back of the room for anyone who's watching along with us that would like to have that information.
And it's also on the county website. Mr. Allen why don't you go on that talk about that one more time?
Yes Madam Chair, members of the board. On the county website which is www.countyofsb.org you just on the right hand side under on the main web page we also have a banner that says FY 11-12 budget hearings you can get to that information that way or you can go under the banner of the Board of Supervisors and go to agendas and minutes and you can also access the information through that site
And could you just one quick, quickly explain the live feed so that folks can get the green sheet.
Yes, Madam Chair. The proceedings are being telecast on the County of Santa Barbara TV channel 20 and it's also being streamed live on www.countyofsb.org under the banner of Board of Supervisors on the county homepage you can go to Live web broadcast and then click on that link and they'll take you right to the board meeting
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Miss Waller thank you The first item that we had was legislative advocates and we believe that the consensus amount was $60,000. The next item we had was discretionary dollars for the DA including drug court and we believe that your consensus was $240,000 Next helicopter operations $1 million Film Commission $25,000 Human Service Commission $1.2 million Warming Centers $25,000 Santa Maria Jail $360,000 ProPay $200,000. Now what you'll see below that the next set that I have
put together... Madam Chair, can you go back to the jail? You said a figure that I'm not sure was accurate.
What I said was 360,000 and we had some individuals that had 300,000 and some that had 1.2 million. So just for sake of discussion what I put was what the Sheriff had suggested. Certainly, I'm absolutely certain you'll give us further direction. I was really just trying to get a straw man for us to start from.
CEO, I wish you would start with the 300,00 that I think seem to be consensus.
Certainly this is just to take us back where we were and your board will give us direction in that regard as you go through. The next set of items that I have, I won't go through and read. You can certainly read for yourself. What I did there was I felt that we heard from two board members But we didn't have a three consensus, so I've listed them for your consideration and further discussion.
And then the third group I have were items that were brought up by one member. And obviously you can decide what you want to discuss in that regard. So that gives you where I think we were on the chart at the end of the day yesterday, Chairwoman.
And what we'll do now is ask you your suggested Certainly, thank you Chairwoman. Going down to possible sources...can we bring that up please?
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What I've done on the possible sources is, I've started with what we believe to be ongoing. In the middle you will see some items that I refer to as TBD meaning I don't know if those will be ongoing or one time and then the final ones are one-time and I'd like to just real quickly go through those for you. A couple of them are going to be familiar because you've seen them before The shift of COP payment costs at 365, sell site revenue of 100,000. A new one that I put on there as you've heard throughout the week and again today our employees have expressed a desire to be part of the solution and part of what we're able to fund and so I have made a line that says possible union concessions And so I have inserted there $1.6 million of what may be possible union concessions.
The next, I have tobacco settlement fund balance which is a one time of 1 million savings on our TRAN 266,000. and lower general fund COP payments of $587. I would note that those actually exceed everything that you had above in your consensus items, but we wanted to provide you not only with the opportunity to shift between those or whatever else you made, but also the opportunity if we didn't have the suggested amount right to give you a little bit of flex there as well. Be happy to answer any specific questions or certainly turn it back to you Chair.
I got Supervisor Lavenino's light and then Supervisor Wolfe.
Madam Chair, Chandra just for the new person can you explain TRAN again?
I'm going to turn that one to Mr. Hagan. Do you want to explain TRAN for us real quickly? You're our TRAN guy.
Chair Gray, members of the Board. The TRAN is a short-term borrowing we do every year so we have ongoing expenses throughout the year generally payroll every two weeks and so the majority of our money will come in December and April the two property tax installment periods. So we borrow in this case it was $60 million dollars this year. And we will receive the money in July and that will cover the cash flow shortages that will occur between that period through roughly the end of November.
Receipts set aside half of the money, about $30 million there. In April we will set aside the other 30 million and then repay it in June. And so we borrowed at I believe it was 27 basis points and with the analysis that we did, we feel we're actually going to make money on this deal this year.
Mr. Hagan, you are very comfortable in both of these designations?
The $266,000. The $266,000
and the $507,000?
The $507,000 is a different issue. Right
but I see it also on this list. Yes. I just want to get assurance from you that you're okay with this. I am. Okay thank
you. Thank you Mr. Hagan. Ms. Wolfe? Thank you Madam Chair. On the foster care which is listed down Down at the bottom. Director Gallagher had sent an email because I had expressed an interest in that item and she suggested a change in that amount to $45,000. So if that could be reflected? And with that maybe I might be lucky if it's down at the bottom. It's under DSS foster care. If you look
along the side number 13, right?
So I mentioned that because as board members go through this maybe two of my colleagues would reconsider that. Thank you Madam Chair.
Supervisor Farr.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I had a couple of comments to make. First of all on line number nine the $60,000 for that in my column is not accurate. That was not on my list and going back I just wanted to say that the $25,000 for the Film Commission I will not make that contingent on anything else I would be happy to increase the Human Services Commission from the million to the million two.
Unless we can get a third vote for some discretionary money for the sheriff of which there Two votes now, including one of mine. If that's not going to happen then I would be happy to support the Santa Maria Jail even though I know it always has two votes but I think it's important that there be funding there. Supervisor Farr would you do 360 on that? I would do 360 on that.
Can I make a comment on that? Well after Supervisor Farr.
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You know, I also am looking for one more vote for the $60,000-$61,000 for the Adult Aging Network. I think that's a very little amount of money for the important work that group does and otherwise I don't know what's going to happen there with that. And that being said then, for $45,000 I would be happy to add my vote for the foster care item that Supervisor Wolf And then my last comment is that there looks like there's probably three votes for probation for the drug court between Supervisor Lavagnino and I, and then Supervisor Wolf had discretionary money for probation there. So if Supervisor Wolf was willing to move that down as a third for that item, then perhaps that could move forward. And I believe those are all of my comments. Thank you Madam Chair.
And, I apologize, I didn't get the order in which the lights came on. Was it Supervisor Carbajal or Wolf that was first? It's fine. Supervisor Wolf?
Okay well just following up on what Supervisor Farr mentioned On the probation piece, I did give a discretionary amount. I'm fine moving forward with the drug court but and I guess what I would hope is that we would be able to get another vote on the gang intervention piece. We have two Two of us who are willing to put money into that for probation and we need an additional member of the board to move forward on that gang prevention.
Not to belabor this point, but this would be the only gang prevention program that we have in the county since we're not funding the Sheriff's Department.
Let's just hang on the gang thing for just a moment and go back to the drug court. I think we need You would go ahead and say probation, I'll fund your drug court position. And so would you, Supervisor Farr? And Lavinino, what about you?
This is where I'm confused about drug court. I want to see drug court funded but from talking with... I'm confused and I need direction on is it the district attorney's office? Is it a probation? Is at the courts? Where is that money coming from? Because it's both. So if we fund it, we have to fund the DA's office and probation because it looks like there are two designations.
Alright let's get an answer and we're talking about drug court and we're next to Supervisor Carbajal and then the supervisor will hang on the gang thing and we'll come back to that. Who's going
Well, I'm going to take a shot at it and then I would encourage any department director that is involved with that that I've missed, cited or I've missed you please let me know. So what I have done on my sheet first of all is on drug court I put $108,000. I've looked at your service level impact form and that's what it is for probation so that's really just housekeeping.
As far as your actual question, Supervisor, it's my understanding that the DA in what I had actually mentioned to you above included some money for the drug court. It's also my understanding that there are some drug court dollars in probation. I believe that there are some that are also in the public defender. Have I missed anyone there? Okay, so it sounds like that's where the three
pieces are. I'm not sure we got an answer. We've got people all over the place on drug court. They want drug court to continue. My understanding is drug court is run by the court but then probation supports it, the DA supports it and the public defender supports it It sounds like we have at most around 100, let's just say 110,000. I'm in the wrong spot maybe.
So what do we have here? Ms. Stewart, you want to try something here? Madam Chair and members of the
board, drug court is truly a team approach by definition and that's why there are so many players. It is overseen by the court in that the process occurs in a courtroom I'm Develop plans for incentives as well as consequences for falling back into relapse So really the team approach is part of the success of this 12 to 18.
Let me ask you this You're the one that jumped up here, so I apologize Will drug court be shut down if in fact? All of your teams do not get funded Because it seems like you're saying we're all
equally as important. My understanding is that the court will continue with a drug court calendar. Probation will only be able to be there on a very limited basis and will not have specialized drug court supervision officers, so it sort of depreciates the capacity of the team although the calendar will continue Without the participation of the district attorney or the public defender, there is evidence that shows the fidelity and positive outcomes of the program decrease when team members cannot be present for the actions in the court
process. Right. And nobody would argue with that. I mean it's a better drug court if the whole team is there. Absolutely. But it would not shut down at this point in time if we don't have Maybe find and work, we can grants and so on. This was a highly... I'm sorry, I don't mean to address just you but it was highly funded by grants so maybe they're still there. Supervisor Lovanino on drug court?
I'm okay with it because I think if I'm correct that the district attorney's office already has made that determination that it's not a day-to-day operation with somebody at drug court So when we're giving discretionary funding to the DA that's listed here.
So drug court, you are willing to go to probation? I need one more person that will put their drug court money at probation. Would that be you Supervisor Wolf?
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Yes, I had 400,000 in discretionary money for probation. So I'm willing to do that. However, I do think it's important that we also fund the Probation Gang Task Force. It's one thing to deal with these kids when they're in drug court. It is another thing to work with them I'm
Thank you. You know, I opened this drawer and I didn't see any more money so I wish I could fund everything but the one thing that I'm willing to change from what I said yesterday to today is funding the gang unit for Ms. Stewart. I called Patty yesterday and had a conversation with her and even though all of the services are important, I said what's your top priority? She told me gangs and that's what I want to support
So that would put
200,000 torture gangs and it's not the task force. It's not the task force. It's the officers dealing with a gang caseload. Let's be clear about that. That is what I'm willing to fund, and that's the only change from yesterday.
So we have two for gangs and two
for... Not drug
court. Now let's then you can put my $200,000 for the gang. Okay so we have three for gangs
in probation. And Madam Chair again, my guiding principle is that it's predicated on concessions.
Okay any others that are wanting to move things around?
Chair, just a clarification there if I may. So what I believe that I have heard at this point is that probation drug court we have three that would fund it at 108 on gang intervention I think I heard a little bit of different numbers there, but what my proposal would be at least for this point is to say that I have three at 243 which is what was requested. Is that the concurrence at least for this part?
He said 200 and he's the third guy so you're going to have to go with two. Okay. Madam
Chair, I do have a change.
Supervisor Lavanino.
Well it looks like I have three votes for 360 for the jail. Maybe four. But we still have, and I don't see on the list of things to eliminate and get into is the North County Jail Million Dollars Fund. And I know that's critical that we fund that. But I don't know how I go back to my constituents and tell them your house is on fire and we're going to get to it 15 years from now.
We've got a situation right now that's going The fifth district much less safe. What I'm asking is for $750,000 we can do a seven day reduced schedule. We keep it open every day. I know some of you have already committed to 360. If the other 400 came out of that North County Jail Fund could I get three for that?
Supervisor Carbajal.
I guess maybe I should make myself clear. My support for the Santa Maria Jail was reducing the $1 million allocation for the jail operations. It's not in addition to that, you know? For me that was my approach I was taking. If others want to take a different approach certainly they're more than welcome.
Supervisor Lavinino. This is my problem with the Santa Maria Jail. I'm going to get to it. It's, I do not agree with Sheriff Brown's priorities. That doesn't make me right, doesn't make me wrong, it just makes it very difficult because my priority would be the Santa Maria Branch Jail Now with that said when I say jail I mean booking I'm okay if you take the 50 beds and put them in Santa Barbara and don't have a jail-jail. But my understanding is, the jail-jail and the booking is one and the same that you have to have three people there as long as your booking.
Now if we said school resource deputies, you're going to have to be subsidized by the schools. Criminal investigators, I'd rather have people in the Santa Maria jail than not. So if I could and we could structure the sheriff's budget and we had the votes on it then I could say We really do need that million, but he found two I forget the number of dollars on school resource deputies and criminal investigation Because that was his priority. I simply don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean a hoop because he's in charge So the reason I think that we should stick to 360 is maybe the city's particularly Santa Maria because they're a big player Could in fact work with the Sheriff's Department, come up with some booking fees that they're willing to share with the Sheriff's Department.
So he in fact could keep that booking part of the jail open. So mine is at 360, end of story. Unless I can get something out of the sheriff here or Santa Maria. Okay, any other changes? Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you. I'd like to go back to a few things. One is the aging network and I appreciate Supervisor Farr's request in needing support for that and I understand that And she has said that she would support the foster care at $45,000. You know from my discussions with all of you yesterday I have implored you to look at what we can do in taking care of our children.
And that was why I had included the mental health program and also the child abuse and neglect. So, I'm wondering if any of the three of you would consider additional $45,000 for foster care? And this is to really, I mean all of these issues for the children. Whether or not they be abused children, foster care children a lot of times they overlap. This is a small amount of money to give to that department to make sure that those services are handled in a timely manner.
Madam Chair?
Supervisor Lavenino?
I asked a question and unless...I've got to check my emails really quick. I wanted to see what we're spending or going to spend this year on the climate action study. And I'm wondering if there's any way that Supervisor Wolf and she, I did look at this, if there's any way that we would reduce, we could look at reducing what we're gonna spend on what I feel is superfluous climate action study and put it towards these kids?
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I don't see her light on.
No, my light's on. I just don't know what the answer is because I think he asked how much it costs and I don't know from long-range planning if there is... You know
the answers. I'm willing to take $45,000 for foster children from the Climate Action Strategy.
Me too. Chair, if I may, I'm not disagreeing with that but I think it would be helpful if Mr. Russell could help us understand what's being spent and what the impact of that maybe so you have all the information.
It doesn't matter for me what the impact is. I am willing to pay $45 thousand for foster children
Okay, excellent. Well that's very good so then that's another budget revision that we're going to thank you all. So then let me be clear then that I will support the aging networks.
Madam Chair, I'm wondering if we oughta really look at the Planning and Development Department? I think there's a number of things there that we might just re-examine and focus on some of these other priorities.
So because people are very concerned about adult protection, aging, social workers, drug court. We're concerned about that and so are there places in planning and development that can be deferred over until such time as we have the real basic needs covered? Is that what you're suggesting? Let's talk about this. Do we want to talk about that? Supervisor Wolf? Do we have three folks interested in doing that?
That's one, two. And I would be two.
You know,
I'm not going to say that
I'm interested or not but this isn't the time you know...
It's
almost
like we didn't have any warning is what's making me a bit nervous about this.
Well, I think it's a matter of priorities. There's children, there's seniors, there's really good planning But nonetheless, let's re-examine our priorities. I think we've taken a few steps forward and now we're trying to put certain priorities on each other and what have you. Let's take a few more days, let's look at this budget because clearly there are a number of planning efforts that aren't a priority when it comes to children and seniors and when it comes to the most vulnerable. We're taking 113 children, we're going to wean them off health insurance There's a lot of pain in this budget, and all of the sudden we're focusing on just one little bit of the pain as if that's the issue. And were the saviors of that? Absolutely not! There's a lot of resources in other areas that we can take right now.
to focus more resources on our most vulnerable, and I'm willing to go there. I'm willing to make those hard decisions but I'm not going to be cajoled and pushed into doing something that resembles that we're being neglectful here or not there. You know, I'm open to looking at a bunch of other things that I don't think are as high priority as our public safety and as our vulnerable populations.
If I could, that all sounds great but we should have had that discussion early on and really picked apart if we wanted to do those departments that we want to get revenue from. We are up against a time clock right now and Supervisor Farr mentioned yesterday and I've come up with almost $6 million in revenue $6 million or in allocation, not 3.8 but $6 million that I know can fund the programs that we're talking about that talks about our social service workers getting out there and doing child protective work To perhaps even bring up the health care amount to the million dollars that we had allocated.
But in the past week, we've been hearing rhetoric that we have to make cuts, we have to make cuts. So that's where we are today and so if we want to have this discussion on long-range planning I think we can do that but I don't know when you plan to do it. We have three meetings next week, but I think Mr. Labagnino brought up a point in saving the $45,000. That's workable.
First off, we do have all day. But secondly is...
I didn't say we didn't have all day.
I said we don't have all next week. Okay but when you ask me if I can support $45,000, I can't just say I'm throwing on another $45 thousand. In my own life, if I'm going to spend some money, I've got to figure out where it's coming from. So if I'm going to take $45 thousand, it's gotta come from somewhere For me, my number one priority to defund would be the Climate Action Study. And so for me if I'm going to make a vote on that, that's where the money is going to have to come from for me. I didn't mean to open up Pandora's box and let's start all over.
Oh, that's
good. I think I touched a nerve here but... You know that was to get support and I thought that's what we were doing here is trying to figure out what our priorities are. And for me, that's where I would be on it.
Maybe we could just get back on track. Madam Chair, just for the record, I'm willing to re-examine our priorities.
If I could Supervisor Gray, just to get us back on track? Good luck! I wanted to talk about the public defender a little bit, because that's the second tier down. And I had put in a discretionary amount of $250,000 and I think Supervisor Farr had been specific in a couple of areas for public defender. The social worker and
the
conservatorship. So I just want to be clear that I would support the conservatorship attorney and the social worker.
And is there a third person that wants to do that? It doesn't appear there is. So now we're back on track. And I think the issue in front of us is do we, in fact, want to start re-evaluating our priorities? Do I have three votes to completely reevaluate our priorities at this time of day?
Madam Chair, you know what? I don't want to go there. I deliberately, when I looked at my list, looked at where the sources would come from and if my list had been so long that I couldn't find where the money was going to come from except to go back into department budgets and start to do that then I would have and I would have put that on the table but I think if we have a recalculation of what our total is here for restorations We may still be within the sources of money that the CEO has put on this list, which I don't think any of them or any of the ones that I considered that are still also discretionary. So I think we have more than excess capacity You know to fund what we know we for sure have three votes on even putting the you know without getting tearing back into the whole thing and starting over again.
Because if I thought that's where we were going to go, I think we should have done it from the beginning.
Supervisor Lovanino. Chair just
may I answer the supervisor's question? Just in answer to your question, yes we have retold and those would be within what still is available under my proposal to you.
The things that we clearly have the three votes on not where they're trying to decide which department goes where and did they mean this or that?
Yes ma'am. What I heard so far in addition to what you had on the very top were gang intervention I saw Supervisor Wolf's light. And I would like to just make one last play and plea to provide
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$500,000 in discretionary money to the Sheriff's Department. And that money could come from part of our capital designation. It could come from the 500,000 that was allocated in the roads designation which Mr. McAulpin said he would be able to as I recall give up that amount. I'd like And it is so concerning to me, and I appreciate the sheriff coming back to us with the restorations that he did. While they may not have been some board members' priorities, they were in my mind. The school resource officer and investigators, those are important. Another $500,000 I would leave to your discretion to make your department whole or more whole or wholer.
But I want you to have that additional funding. We have provided, public safety is the issue. We've given money to our district attorney. We've given money to probation. We did not give money to our public defender but we, I believe that we must give additional funds to our sheriff. He has, I think he said he took an $8 million cut.
No, we're giving him 8 million more than he had two years ago.
Okay, then I stand corrected. Eight million more than...
It's just more costly because the cost of an average employee in his department is $155,000 a year so he's got a real tough nut to crack.
Chair Gray, members can I just clarify the $8 million cut was from what it would take to keep a status quo budget. Okay so in essence we are being shorted from the status quo services that we're delivering now because we were asked to make an eight million dollar cut From the budget with the additional money that we found and will roll over. It looks like it will reduce it to six point four but it is still a very significant cut from status quo services.
The sheriff's department has. It's really difficult because at one hundred fifty five thousand average employee costs that's that's hard to find. We got the three votes to, I think she was, Supervisor Wilk proposed a $500,000 discretionary amount of money to the Sheriff's Office.
Madam Chair, I'm looking at a number of planning and development projects here that I might be willing to forego or stall. Until I find this money, I'm not ready to go there. Fund ongoing one-time items so that next year we're here again having the same dance. It's not one time Supervisor Carbajal,
it's not one time.
Maybe we have a different understanding of finances. I'm looking to see what I might want to cut by all means continue.
We have I think the question is and is what you see board members use you see the middle section. That is asking you do you want to place your third vote on one of those middle section things at this point time I've not heard anybody say yes. Anybody going to say yes?
Oh, I think we do have some. We have the adult aging and we have...
Wait a minute who on the board is Doreen and Janet. I got two votes. Is there a third vote for adult aging? Salud. Salud are you on adult aging? Yes. Yes, okay. So that one gets moved. Madam
Chair?
I'm sorry. Salute and then...
Again but my thing was that it be taken out of social services budget not more general fund from the general services budget. I mean from the social services budget.
Does that throw a monkey wrench in the deal?
I apologize. Are we talking about adult aging network having three Consensus on that? I can't see it, but
they're
talking.
Yes because I said I would but now there it looks like there's a little change. Kathy can you take it out of
your social services? Actually I do have a response for you there we do in that particular department have some salary and benefit designation that has not been used and I would suggest That we look to that as a resource. How much is that? Give me just a quick second. I believe we have 118,000 in that designation. Well, that's a
lot more than 60.
So I would recommend again you're going into a designation but we could do that if that would be your decision.
All right, that looks like it's a decision. Supervisor Labanino, I saw light on here. Supervisor Wolfe, you want to keep plugging away here?
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Okay, I think we've got the probation drug court. I believe we have the three votes for that. I believe we have the three votes for the probation gang intervention program at $200,000 and then down below the foster care for $45,000.
Wait a minute on gang intervention. Supervisor Labnino, the gang intervention is yours. You're not there? That's not me. Okay so you're not putting 109 in gang intervention.
No I heard it was from Supervisor Carbajal, myself and FAR.
Supervisor Carbajal, I don't see you there. Are you there?
On gang I am. Okay. I'm not there on drug court even though it's an important program.
So we have three votes for Drug Court. We have Wolf, Farr and Lavagnino. The gang intervention, we have Carbajal, Wolf and Farr. The foster care at 45,000. We have Wolf, Farr, Carbaja And I don't know
about, I think we have three. Actually if I am correct we had Supervisor Gray on
that
as well.
If it came out of studying the climate.
So I think that...
So have we got that all now? Now does that cover it? I believe we're
current with you.
Now once again is everyone there or is there any other I would like to take the 15% cut to the Children's Health Initiative from Climate Action Strategy towards children. That is what I would
like to
do. If
you could put that up there, that would be great. Now if there are votes for it, great.
OK, so we now I think there was a request to redo. To
staff if you would put that for $150,000 on the green at the end of the green list and then we'll let the supervisors discuss.
What I would like to say is that might be something to consider. I don't think we have to do that today, we're not talking about any FTEs for that program. We can all say and I would agree that we want to fully fund that program so why don't we have staff come back to us? And what...I don't know how much is in the Climate Action Strategy Program but maybe there's other places Where they can come back to fund that
program. Madam Chair, we could look at funding if we disagree later but right now since we're so cut earlier I was hearing a lot of speeches on children and I just got really motivated to look at other places. So again what is the proposed cut in the budget to the Children's Health Initiative?
$150,000. Okay,
I propose that $150,000 come out of the 1.1 million for Climate Action Strategy.
OK, now I think everyone would like you to be sure that that's correct. So what that takes is just unfortunately another break. So we're going to take, can you do it in 10 minutes ma'am?
We
certainly can. I think we're nearly
ready.
Can I just make a suggestion? Maybe Mr. Carbajal would be willing to look at this. We are putting in $500,000 into strategic reserve from General Fund, would you consider making that $350,000 into Strategic Reserve and $150,000 of that going to the Children's Program? Because it's easier for me to deal with this number rather than going into the Climate Action Strategy Program when we really haven't had a thorough discussion. I'm just asking the question. I
know the question came to you, Supervisor, but there have been so many kinds of sacrifices made. Basically need that reserve so that collapses if a child gets sick and get there. But it's your it's your call
Madam Chair I've identified I don't want to go into the reserve. I've identified what I want to fund and one of the sources I identify that's agreeable to me is the climate action strategy If there's other sources that are put on the table, the reserve I'm not willing to touch at this point. Again you know it goes back to priorities. I think action climate strategy is a great priority but do we need 1. million right now or can we reduce it a little bit? I think we could reduce it a little bit. There's also a lot of other planning items on here we could reduce and I'm willing to go there.
All right we are going to take 10 minutes. Madam
Chair.
Yes sir.
He's ready to go there, I'm ready to go there. How do we how do we do that?
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What we have done is, we have put that on your list with two. And so my recommendation would be to allow staff to catch up with you and then come
back. Would that be all right with you folks? We're going to take a 10 minute break. We'll be back at ten after eleven. ¶.
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Ah, welcome. Welcome
back.
Welcome back to the budget hearing of the County of Santa Barbara. And again, to say thank you all and for being here and for helping and for all the positive energy that we feel. And all the negative energy too. I know we're all going to have headaches and stuff tonight. It's just... You know, we just want to do more with less and we want to do for everybody at the top of the...
Everybody enjoy their wine or beer or milk or soda pop or whatever tonight. And thank you again. Do we want to go to CEO Waller to explain this and then back to Supervisor Wolf with a question?
Certainly, thank you Chairwoman. So what I'd like to do is just update us from where we were before. You have actually moved some of the things that were not on the top to the top and specifically you have added aging network at 60,000, probation drug court at 108, gang intervention at 200, foster care at 45 On the bottom, there was suggestions to add the Climate Action Study and that one is one that didn't appear to be necessary but certainly if you would choose to shift something else you could. We do have additional funds that would not be necessary there.
Social Services designation of $60,000 and then we had two folks said new jail operations but I don't show any source there because we didn't have the three votes. So that brings us up to date, I believe with where your discussions were when we last ended.
Thank you, Chair. So we left off with the Children's Health Initiative and there is a need for another vote on that and I am willing to put my vote on that one to get that one moving. And I'm happy to do that as I would have been happy to put more money again into child welfare services to prevent abuse but Let's let's ask so
we've got so we've got all and love you know on children's health.
I doubt that Lebanon is not
a lot of it is not on there
now
Carbohol yes, that's how
I thought it. It says.
Okay,
so let me just I'll just finish up and in that I think this last round of budget discussions was a little strange and kind of out of out of the blue and it's not how I I think that this community likes to see us do a budget. I think it needs to be a little bit more thoughtful, but these issues are so important and we are up against the timeline and I do believe that the Children's Health Initiative is one that needs to be supported. Thank you Madam Chair.
I don't think we have three for that. We have Carbajal and Wolf. Okay.
Madam Chair, I would support it but not coming from the Climate Action Strategy in addition to the money that would already be taken for the other because we have enough room in what we have there to absorb it that way.
All right.
I want to thank you for that, Supervisor Carr, for that observation. I think that's a good idea.
Are you clear
on
what just happened? I believe so. We took off the Climate Action Study as a source and Children's Health Initiative was gone, somehow it miraculously appeared again and it should come off. It did not...it's my understanding it did not have the three.
Excuse me. But Carvajal is prerequisiting that in order for that to happen it comes out of climate, right?
No as long as it comes out of the budget balances designations that CEO Waller has put up there so right now those accumulate at 3.9 million. As long as it comes from that it's
fine. Okay okay so I believe what you have in front of you on the screen now accurately reflects what you just said.
We are we at this point time ready for a motion to approve the budget as presented
some movement here there's no.
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This
is
Mr. Allen, is there a way to turn him off? Thank you. Is there a second on the motion to approve the budget as... Chairwoman, just
housekeeping if Dr. Stilwell could take you through the legal steps that you need just before you make your motion.
But I don't even have a second yet ma'am.
Okay. Excuse me.
So I don't have a second. So what else do y'all want to talk about? Supervisor Wolf? Supervisor Farr?
Well, Madam Chair. Actually I do think it probably would be good because the motion has to encompass any number of things not just what we're talking about.
So you use
the redevelopment
budget and go to Mr. Stilwell to talk about what we need to do?
What the content of the motion should be and then we can make a motion and have a second.
Okay, Madam Chair and members of the Board. The recommended action to adopt the budget is on two board letters that are under attachment 3 of the Budget Hearing Binder. This spreadsheet that we've been talking about and we finalized will become part of the legally adopted budget.
Where?
It's the board letter on tab three so it's the June 13th 2001 board letter.
Tab three.
So the actions to adopt the budget would be approved. The final budget adjustments to the fiscal year 11-12 recommended budget, and those include the adjustments as attachment A that were the yellow sheet handed out during the week Second would be delegating authority to the County Executive Officer to execute ongoing grants and contracts included in the recommended budget. Third would be authorize the County Executive Officer to approve ongoing contracts where amounts are up to 10% more or less than the indicated amounts, or up to $5,000 more or less than indicated amounts on the contracts under $50,000 without returning to the Board for approval. And then finally, for the county's budget would be to adopt the resolution of the Board of Supervisors entitled In The Matter Of Adopting The Budget For Fiscal Year 11-12.
And this spreadsheet would become attachment E of that resolution. That would adopt the county's budget and then we have a similar process I can walk you through for the RDA budget, the Redevelopment Agency budget as well.
Questions from Mr. Stilwell? Next issue.
So if the board would want to entertain motion on those that would be staff's recommendation.
Is there a second by Supervisor Farr?
Madam Chair, that is as amended today.
That's correct.
Okay. Do you want to roll call on this Mr. Allen please?
Mr. Carbajal? Aye. Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Ms Farr? Aye Mr. Labagnino?
I'd like to speak about this first
Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't ask for a speaker. I'm sorry
okay I guess this is the time to, it's interesting to me that this is my first year so maybe I brought up something that is different than the way you've always done it. But what I think is important today is that we realize that we do this budget 52 weeks out of the year. I've tried to be very quiet this whole week and I haven't said a whole lot because I came into this process and it felt like my hands were tied. I felt handcuffed because of past decisions that the board has made When I look at doing the budget, it seems like we make decisions throughout the year. Accept the winery ordinance update, do the Gaviota Coast plan, climate action.
We make decisions and then we show up in June and we get upset because we don't have enough money for warming centers and social workers and all the things that we need to I just want, and I think I'm starting to see it from our unions, 620, 721, the DSA, the firefighters. Everybody's come forward and said we have to start realizing that there is a relationship between revenue and services.
It seems like that's lost on a lot of us. You know, we had the Hunter Ranch Project A million dollars we would have had in TOT. $500,000 in annual sales tax. $300,000 in property tax. We've got a developer right now that wants to build a project on the South Coast. It's a $50 million construction job. 1.25 million in property tax. 300 jobs. We said no to Ballantyne. $100,000 a year in property tax. We'd be funding a lot of these projects. The hurdles that we place in front of our oil and gas Where, why aren't we talking about streamlining the process?
I just want to make sure that when we move into the future, we're not making these decisions again. When we say no to development it's no to our deputy sheriffs and our DAs. No to oil and gas is no to the fuels crew which we couldn't fund. No to my, no to Santa Maria Jail. We're going to make people less safe in Santa Maria because of the decisions that we have already made And I see ideas coming up in the future of beach parking fees.
We're cutting social services because we don't have revenue. So my message is, I want to look forward to next year that the decisions we make starting July 1st don't bring us back to this same place again And as far as restorations go, for me and I think the rest of the board, I just want to defend them a little bit. As far as, I think 85% of our add-ons went back to public safety. So I'm looking for some help in the next year so we don't face this again.
Supervisor Carbajal then Supervisor Wolf.
Since we're making speeches, I guess it compels me to make a speech as well. You know when we get elected to be supervisors, we get elected to bring about a balance of interests and ultimately to reach quality of life that our residents want in Santa Barbara County. We don't just get elected to promote the interest or special interests in certain sectors I would be at oil companies or certain development. If we did, we would be Orange County and the reason Santa Barbara County is the destination that it is because we struggle up here to reach that balance. You can't be up here three, four, five months and think you figured it out.
It takes a long time to understand that it's a lot more complicated than that. I certainly appreciate the comments of my colleagues. While we might agree or disagree, I remind ourselves that it's a much more complicated and a bigger balance that we're trying to reach. It's not as simplistic looking at it from just the eyes of special interests but looking at it from the eyes of all interests who make up our community.
Thank you. I'd like to just address Supervisor Lavagnino's comments and I think it's important to get some perspective on these issues, and I'm going to take some of them and name some of these projects by name because they need to get out there because there have been a lot of implications that have been made throughout these budget hearings. First, Tranquil On Ridge This board did approve that project. It was denied by the Lands Commission.
That is a state commission, that decision stands unless the Lands Commission changes their mind. Ballantyne Project was denied by this board and it was upheld in a legal proceeding. This board approved the Miramar project and they have been given two extensions to proceed with the Miramar development and due to financial constraints, nothing having to do with this board they have not moved forward.
In my district alone we have two residential development projects that are going on probably totaling about 150 units so that is progressing. It's important to note that when there was a different board majority, there were three votes to move forward and approve that project. And it was from the developer who decided that he wanted to come back to this board and redo some of the approvals that he had already been provided. So to say that this board has not moved forward and has not done anything to promote economic development I think is is inaccurate at best and I want to echo what Supervisor Carbajal said when he talks about a balance. We do not approve everything that comes through at this board, we do look at balancing the economic development versus the quality of life and I believe that this board I haven't always agreed with the decisions, has made those decisions with a lot of thought.
And that's probably the thing I'm most proud of on serving on this board is the thoughtfulness whereby we make decisions albeit not this... well anyway so anyway
thank you supervisor. Supervisor Farr?
Thank you, Madam Chair. Well let me just weigh in and echo the same. I mean, I think that Supervisor Lavagnino that there were any number of decisions that were made on these items that you've mentioned before either you or I were on the board and certainly fun to go back and second-guess that but one of them that you did mention that I was involved with and this goes back to this theme of balancing was The Hunter Project at the La Purisima Golf Course And my vote on that was absolutely swayed by the fact that it had a unanimous no vote from the Ag Advisory Committee except for one member. And that was because of the impact on agriculture, which of course is our billion dollar business. So I think that really points out this delicate balance and how complicated it gets.
I'm going to It was first Derek Johnson and then Diane Black working as long-range planners that got us $25 million in mitigations through the Long Range Development Plan and our agreement with UCSB, and avoided having to go to court on that. So it is very complicated when we look at these things, and certainly I'm open for discussion as we go forward, but I think when it comes to this budget, we've done the best kind of balancing that we can in the best interests of the people of this county. Thank you,
Supervisor. Supervisor Lavinino?
Wow! Well thank you, Supervisor Carbajal for letting me know that I don't know everything in five months and I didn't claim that I did. I could have told you that but I've been a taxpayer in this county for a long time and I continued to hear from all of our department heads that we were doing more with less. We were being asked to do more with less and they are Regardless of how well we handled this budget, and I think with what we were given at the end based on the decisions that we've made in the past.
This is the best product that I think we could get to But the taxpayer is actually getting less services there's no denying that taxpayers getting less service for either the same or more taxes so You know I don't think any amount of time that I'm going to be up here on the board is going to change my fundamental thinking of revenue, development equals revenue. Revenue equals jobs and services.
We may disagree about how that works but that's where I am.
Thank you. You all have heard me for 12 years so I'll pass on my comment. Who's the next person who needs to vote?
Mr. Lavagnino
And where we are right now it's your voting on the budget right. What are our votes for
I have affirmative votes from Mister Carbajal this wolf in this far and you're the 4th
based on what people have given me as far as concessions go with jail, I will support this.
Yes. Thank you all.
Mr.
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Stilwell?
There's five additional recommendations, three with the boards acting as... Now where
are those, Mr. Stilwell?
They're on the second board letter in attachment 3 or tab 3 for the redevelopment agency. Three of them are acting as the Board of Directors for the Redevelopment Agency.
You know, Mr. Stilwell, they want to leave so if you want to leave, leave and we'll take five minutes for people to leave. You just sit there ready to talk.
Move this item recommended actions A through E, the board acting as the redevelopment agency.
All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Mr. Stilwell do you need more? All right, recapturing what we've done this last week. It's been a lot of work for everyone involved and the theme is even though we have had to cut off an arm instead of a hem, we're going to all go forth, work together, and do more with less. Meeting adjourned. ¶. Yeah.