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I'm gonna go ahead and request that we move item 9a up to the top before our public hearings. Excellent Next item is 7. Announcements, future agenda items and reports of meetings and conferences attended by council members and mayor. We'll start with Mr. Means. Thank you Mayor.
As you are aware I was out of the country evaluating different organizations across the world including the Vatican spent some time asking the Pope and friends to give us great guidance no problem for most of us a lot of time spent on you But I watched the meeting. Appreciate all that you guys did last time, but I was not able to be here
Thank You mr. Mayor on June 9th I attended along with other members of the council the mayor's luncheon and on June 10th Along with the mayor attended the immigration stakeholders meeting. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you
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On June 9th, I also attended the Mayor's Luncheon. On June 11th, they attended the Young Professionals Group. We meet the second Thursday of every month at Different Moorpark restaurants and on the 15th, they attended the Ad Hoc Committee meeting for library artwork along with Councilmember Barrett and on the 16th, they attended a walkthrough of the library under construction along with Councilmember Means. It was really great to see how far along they were in just a matter of a couple of weeks. Walls are up or cinder blocks are up anyway So.
Sorry. On June 4th, I attended the Regional Defense Partnership meeting. Also on June 4th I attended the Clean Power Alliance board meeting. On June 5th, um, I attended the ribbon cutting grand opening for Sandal Cellars over on Point Dexter. Really great event. Great turnout and amazing wine. Great addition to this community, super excited to have them here.
On June 9th I attended the Mayor's Business Lunch also an incredible event great speaking with the businesses that are bringing tax dollars to our community and getting to know them a little bit better really enjoyed that On June 9th, I also had a meeting with the economic vitality department from the county to learn a little bit more about what they have going on with their area 805 and the hive.
For those of you who aren't aware, they just recently got their federal aviation guidelines approved. It's a 500-square mile test range for autonomous vehicles. Its coastal area ranging towards Santa Barbara And this is a great thing for local businesses and the businesses here in Moorpark to be able to utilize that space and have that available. So lots of great information. That was a good meeting on June 15th, I attended the Tour of the library. Again, as Council Member Delgado said, great to see the walls going up and just really start to see the spaces take place.
Also on June 15th I attended the marketing ad hoc related to the library.
Thank you. So for myself, Friday June 5th I attended a VCTC meeting and then June 9th I was at the Mayor's Business Appreciation Luncheon and we got some incredible companies in this city Also June 5th I attended the Sandell Cellars Grand Opening. Great winery, great couple that runs it. Definitely stop by and check it out! It's certainly worth hitting that and Cave at the same time as their neighbors.
Then Friday, June 12th I attended the Conejo Moorpark Association of Realtors Mayor's Roundtable and we discussed all different types of real estate issues and new laws and things affecting our region. That's all I have. I got a few announcements here. As we get closer to the 3rd and 4th of July, it's time to remind everyone that fireworks are illegal in Moorpark. That includes sparklers, firecrackers and aerial devices. There are no exceptions for the so-called safe and sane fireworks. The Moorpark Police Department will be strictly enforcing all fireworks laws with zero tolerance and proactive patrols dedicated to fireworks enforcement. Fines start at $1,000. Please be respectful of your neighbors, pets and your community. And instead check out the official fireworks show at 9 p.m.
on July 3rd. The City of Moorpark is happy to share an incredible opportunity for recent college graduates and graduating seniors through the AmeriCorps Lead for America Fellowship Program. If you're passionate about communication, social media, public outreach and community engagement this fellowship offers hands-on experience working alongside local government leaders helping connect residents with meaningful programs and initiatives As a fellow, you will gain professional mentorship and leadership training experience in communications and community outreach opportunities to support local projects and initiatives.
Valuable networking connections, salary benefits, retirement credit, and educational award up to $7500. This is your chance to grow your career while making a real impact in Moorpark. Interested candidates please email Jonathan Royes, Assistant City Manager at jroyes at moorparksca.com Registration is open for Camp Moorpark, a day camp program for kids ages 5 to 11. Activities include crafts, sports, games, parties, guest performers, events, field trips and more. Camp is held at the Royal Vista Recreation Center. For details including the camp packet and registration form visit moorparkca.gov slash camp Sign up now for summer special interest camps. Camps offered include Lego engineering, movie making, extreme nerf and a variety of sports camps including soccer, basketball, lacrosse, tennis and more.
For details and to register visit moorparkca.gov slash classes Put on your quads and blades and join us for an evening of skating, music, contests and more at our first Summer Skate Night on Friday June 19. The fun takes place from 6 to 8 p.m. at the Royal Vista Community Park multi-use court. Admission is free. In celebration of USA 250, our music theme for June will be American Rock & Roll. For details visit moorparkca.gov slash skate This summer's Concert in the Park series kicks off on Saturday, June 27th at 6 p.m. The concert will be held at Arroyo Vista Community Park and features Fast Times, an 80s concert experience featuring hits by Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Prince, The Cars, and more. Admission is free. For details visit moorparkca.gov slash concerts Tickets are now on sale for the City of Moorpark's annual 3rd of July fireworks extravaganza.
This fun family event is held at Roya Vista Community Park and features food booths, games and attractions, a presentation of the American flag and aerial fireworks display. For details and to buy tickets or discount tickets in advance visit moorparkca.gov slash fireworks.
I also wanted to bring up for a future agenda item the role of the library board. We've had a lot of conversations with the library board and I spent a lot of time this week looking and watching Library board meetings in advance of tonight's discussion and I just there's a lot of receive and file reports, and I would love to Have them have a little more official role or not waste their time if that's the case so
I Agree with you. I think we've talked about doing that but don't think we ever put it into an agenda item if we needed to oh
Yes, Mayor and Council Member Barrett. Yeah we could place that at a future meeting for discussion. Excellent. Thank
you.
And Mr. Mayor if I may? I also missed something. One hiding speaker card actually two hiding speaker cards so if we may return to
public comment for those two speakers I would appreciate that. Okay
we'll move to public comment are there any speakers?
We have two speakers. Our first speaker is Cameron Gill, and he will be followed by Thomas Farley. As this is public comment you have three minutes to address the council.
Good evening, I'm Cameron Gill. You're appointed to the Ventura County Transportation Commission Citizen Transportation Advisory Committee. I wanted to provide a brief verbal update based on the recent CTAC meeting that focused on a proposed pilot program to integrate paratransit and microtransit services countywide I may email the report that expands on this and provides a full list of questions. I put towards the VCTC staff, the questions and meeting discussion centered around how to make such an integrated service model realizable as a pilot program and potentially long term A one-seat ride across the county would provide a meaningful quality of life improvement for riders, particularly those with disabilities and seniors. So fortunately the commission staff had preliminary answers to how to address price shocks for Moorpark riders which was a particular item of concern.
After all we pay some of if not the lowest prices for rides locally which is great but the impact to the city's cost share was not particularly clear and so I left that for them Hopefully provide to the commission for further investigation later on. Because each year of service establishes expectations of continued availability, I also raised points about how the structure of a proposed pilot program could avoid service disruptions for riders if sustainable funding is not realized because that was a large unanswered question about The future of a pilot program and if something were to be wanted as a permanent program.
And such a sudden disruption for service that gets folks to their medical appointments, for example, would only reduce trust in future initiatives so that pre-planning was particularly important in my mind. The Commission staff did engage in a very productive and meaningful way, even though many answers to these questions would require future consultation with their proposed consultant to work on these and research them further. The topic will return to the Commission for discussion soon so hopefully CTAC, the CTAC discussion provides the Commission and the staff a little bit more to consider particularly with respect to Moorpark riders. Again, the full report was sent by email for your convenience and thank you again for the opportunity to serve in this way.
Thank you.
And our other speaker is Thomas Farley.
Good evening and thank you for letting me speak. My voice is not as it was when I came last time. I have four cancers, and one of those cancers, I take 25 pills. And because of that the acid grew in my mouth so I don't talk clearly anymore. I said this before and I'll say it again. You can be heroes. That was the end of my speech but I'm going to start at this time.
You can be heroes that the world has not seen by setting up a group to encourage people to have solar paneling, because the savings is immense. I decided to get us a Tesla so it could have the special driving. Do you know why Tesla doesn't advertise? Because the people that buy them sell them. If you all got Teslas—I'm just saying it to all of you now—because it has supervised driving, it'd change your life.
So here's my suggestion. You've got all these committees, set one up and get Bank of America or Wells Fargo or Union Banker or Chase, that's the other one, to set up a ground rule committee to get people to put on panels. I don't own any stock in Tesla companies. I don't own any stock at SpaceX, nothing. I don't have a job as one of these. I have any relatives having this. I'm saying is if you did this for the city of Moorpark You would make history.
You're not going to make history for the library, you're not going to make history for 4th of July, you're not going to make history for High Street but you would if you changed the city of Moorpark because it would change Ventura County. How do you like knowing that guy came up and he said SCE gives the crappiest service to Moorpark? That's what he said! So why don't we just not use SCE, and then people can have cleaner air. And then if they get electric cars, they've got their own gas station in the garage. I don't need three minutes. That's what I said.
Thank you. Thank you.
And that concludes our public speakers.
All right. Thank you. All right, next is item 9A. Let's consider presentations from applicants and make appointments to fill two vacancies on the library board for three-year terms ending June 30th, 2029.
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Mr. Mayor? I'd like to announce that out of an abundance of caution and to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest, I'll be recusing myself from this agenda item because I have a professional and personal relationship with one of the applicants. Thank you.
Good evening Mayor Innegren and members of the City Council. The city's Library Board of Trustees is comprised of five members serving staggered three-year terms, and this year the term of two of the five positions is up to be filled. For those that might be wondering why this is different than the city's Planning Commission, Arts or Parks and Recreation Commissions, the three-year term is a function of the state education code which governs the appointment of library board members.
Recruitment to fill the open positions included issuance of a press release along with prominent advertisement on the city's website and multiple postings on cities social media platforms. The application period was opened on April 20th and closed on May 25, 2026 at 530 p.m., with five applications being received. This afternoon, however at 330 the city clerk's office received an email from applicant Esha camera Withdrawing her application for consideration. So you have four applicants to choose from this evening Per the City Council's adopted policies library board applicants are required to attend a City Council meeting to provide a brief presentation on their qualifications and interest in the appointment As noted in the staff report, the City Council has the discretion to waive this in-person policy should it wish to do so.
In such an event a motion and a second would be required followed by an affirmative vote. This evening one applicant has requested to attend remotely they were on vacation And therefore the City Council has a consideration to waive that policy. However, I'm looking at the Zoom room and I don't see the person signed in right now. It could be because the agenda was reordered and so I would be able to reach out to that person really quickly and just make sure they're able to log on. Sometimes there's difficulty when you're camping or someplace else to get service as well.
So prior to the start of the meeting, the applicant names were randomly selected for their order of presentation. The order will be Kristen Blunt followed by Jessica Ansari who is our remote participant. It's either German or Herman Chatzky and Kaya Truro. After the applicant presentations, the council will be asked to follow the City Council procedures, policies and procedures for appointment which provide that the mayor shall solicit nominees from the council members. And following nominations, the mayor will make a motion for the individual names to be approved for appointment. That concludes my report and I'm available for any questions, and the applicants are here to provide their presentations though I'm just not sure about our remote presenter so since she's not our first presenter, I'd like to invite Kristen Blunt up and she does have a PowerPoint that I'm going to turn on and then I'll quickly try and contact our remote attendee.
May I get a brief tutorial on the clicker?
You're supposed to know that coming in.
Just the green button. Thank you. This one? Fabulous! Okay, thank you. Good evening honorable mayor, council members and city staff. Three years ago I came before you because I believed the library board could play a stronger advisory role through greater participation, thoughtful discussion, active engagement and accountability and I believed I could contribute to that effort. Since then I've had the privilege of serving as both a board member and board president working alongside my fellow board members during an important period of growth and transition for our library Looking back on the last three years. I'm proud of the progress we've made together To me these numbers tell the story of a board that became more active More engaged and more invested in the work before it We held more meetings attended attendance improved significantly and perhaps most importantly we spent more time discussing the issues that matter to our library and community as I don't believe longer meetings are inherently better.
What I believe I influenced and that these statistics reflect is board members showing up, participating, asking questions and bringing different perspectives to the table all which contribute to richer discussions and more thoughtful recommendations. During my term the Board provided input on several important initiatives including the transition to a fine free library model Children's area design elements for the new library. Updates to collection development policies and material reconsideration procedures.
One contribution I've consistently tried to bring to the board is a focus on measurement, accountability and continuous improvement because I believe organizations improve when they understand where they are today and where they want to be tomorrow. That perspective has shaped many of the questions I've asked during my term. How do we define success? What are we trying to accomplish, and how will we know if we're getting there? Over the last three years, I've encouraged those conversations because I believe good intentions are important but good information helps us make better decisions. Outside of my board service, I have intentionally invested time in evaluating from other institutions. To be specific, 103 uniquely different institutions Over the past three years, I visited more than 28 libraries, 51 museums and collections, and 23 universities.
I pay attention to how organizations serve their communities, how spaces are designed, how technology is integrated in how people gather, and how institutions remain relevant in an ever-changing world. Those experiences have broadened my perspective and strengthened the contributions I bring to the library board. They reinforce my belief that libraries are among one of the most important civic institutions we have. They're not simply places to borrow books, they're places where people learn, study, connect, explore new ideas, access technology, build skills and engage within their community.
And the best chapters are still ahead. Libraries aren't static institutions and Moorpark's new library should lead our future. Community needs change, technologies change and the ways people learn and connect continue to evolve. Three years ago I said that meaningful board service begins with showing up participating and engaging in the work. I did that. I would absolutely welcome the opportunity to continue serving Moorpark and respectfully request your consideration for reappointment to the library board. Thank you.
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And Mr. Mayor, we do have our remote participant online so if you would like to make a motion and take a vote to waive your policy for in-person presentation, we'll have that waiver taken care of.
All in favor? Yeah. Yes.
Wonderful. Well, our next presenter is Jessica Ansari and she does have a presentation to share as well. So I believe she is going to share her screen and give us a voiceover.
I think I'm just going to be myself today without the presentation. But good evening Mayor, council members and staff. Thank you for the opportunity. My name is Jessica Ansari. I've lived in Moorpark since 2021 with my husband and our young son Issa Our family is at the Moorpark Library several times a week. I bring my candidacy forward for a seat on the library board because Moorpark is opening a new library.
And this is exactly the moment to include The Voice will grow up with that new space. What I would add to the board is a specific combination. First, an active organized connection to Moorpark's young families. I founded and run Kineo Valley Moms, a local group of about 100 active members. Throughout the year we organize meetups, park days, stroller walks, story times, library visits, and seasonal events. And we support one another through the isolating early years of parenting.
Our library is central to that work. Last winter, when it got dark early and gathering outdoors got hard, we met every Wednesday night at the Moorpark Library. And it became a true respite where moms and kids could connect and feel less alone. Because I coordinate this large group, gather feedback, and help shape our programming, I hear constantly what young families need—early literacy support, welcoming programming, and safe places to gather.
Secondly, I bring a professional background in literacy and communication. I'm a writer and former journalist who has worked in media including NPR and the New York Times. And today I lead copy and content for The Ugg Brand. As the new library launches it will need to reach new users and tell its own story well. That's work I do every single day and I'd put it to work for Moorpark. Libraries have shaped my entire life, from my childhood branch in Chicago to weekends as a teenager at the Harold Washington Library. They're one of the true few third spaces left in our city. They support not just literacy but belonging for children, seniors, students and everyone in between. I would be absolutely honored to serve listen and learn and help the new library become a vibrant inclusive and beloved resource even more than it is now for the whole city.
Thank you for your consideration
Thank you.
And our next speaker I'm hoping is in the room it's either German or Herman Chatzky please come on up and you have three minutes to address the council and you can correct me on your first name.
It's just like the language Hi, everybody. For those of you who don't know me, my name is German Chatzky. I got a AA degree in liberal arts focused in psychology. I also have a bachelor's degree in civil engineering and graduated top of my class with a master's in structural engineering. I have about 20 years experience tutoring math, physics, and engineering.
And also on the Moorpark Chamber of Commerce, also a Rotary Club member of Moorpark Also serve as PTA treasurer at Walnut Canyon and also serving on the site school council at Walnut Canyon. So I believe that I bring a very diverse position to this position, and I value education. I have a lot of respect for it. My kids have attended a lot of the library events, and that's one of the reasons why I fell in love with the library as well as the community itself And I've also spent probably the last year tutoring at the Moorpark Library privately. So, I've gotten to know a lot of the people who work at the library, a lot of the patrons who visit the library and really feel like I can make an impactful difference in addition to that.
I've also served as president of the American Society of Civil Engineers at Cal State University Northridge. Also served as president of Tau Beta Pi, the engineering honor society at CSUN as well. So I've kind of gotten used to serving in non-profit organizations, understanding the importance of rules and following the rules And as well as learn to play nice with others. So like I said, I do feel like I would be a valuable position who brings diversity and yeah, really appreciate your consideration. Thank you. Thank you.
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And our final applicant is Kaya Churro.
Good evening Mayor Enneagrin, esteemed members of the Moorpark City Council and staff. As you may know my name is Kaya Turrell-Blem. I'm a Moorpark resident of over 34 years born and raised here and attended all Moorparks schools throughout elementary and high school. I am a mom to a very rambunctious toddler and the current president of the Moorpark Library Board.
I come to you today to reiterate that I am deeply committed to our team's mission and my strong desire to retain a position on this board. I have been a board member since you honored me with this position in 2022. Back then, the new library was a glimmer in our eye. We have since met throughout the years where we have gone back and forth on the size, the budgeting and the timing of when the library will be built. And even through a very long and challenging fight for the size and budget approval look what we accomplished under my term having now the foundation poured rebar in walls up and an accurate completion date in the near future I say we because while the city staff prepares and researches the information, and the City Council has the ultimate decision.
I do believe this has been a whole community project. As a library board member, I have come to understand that while we made some important progress there were many future decisions to come that we couldn't make until the physical library was in construction. Therefore, I used my position as a library board member as an advocacy position and attended the appropriate city council meetings to represent our board and its influence.
And while my speeches have been very passionate, involuntary tears included, I believe that the community needs to see the leaders standing alongside them to commend and advocate for something as important as our new library. As for my qualifications, I have a bachelor's degree in political science from UCLA, a master's of public administration from GCU, and currently work as a grants administrator and board clerk within the county of Ventura managing multi-million dollar grants at the federal level.
Down to local community roots, I am a troop leader for a Girl Scout Brownie Troop and spend most of my free time chasing around my two-and-a-half year old. My love of reading began at a very young age and I'm so happy that I passed that on to my son. We cannot wait for the new library to open and what better advocate is there than a mother who understands the importance and need for a great library in the community to foster our next generation?
The candidates that you have here tonight all appear to be extremely qualified and would do a great job on the board. It would be a privilege to continue in my position on the board and to strive for excellence alongside your other choice. The community will always thrive with dedicated members. Now that the new library is progressing, physical work has begun. Fundraising, don't forget to buy your brick by August 31st.
Advertising, supporting, advocating. I would be honored to continue serving the Moorpark community on this board. Thank
you.
And Mr. Mayor that concludes our presentations so it is now to you for deliberations.
Do we have any public comment? There's
nothing in the speaker card box and no public comment on this item.
All right, well this is always the hard part of this one. We seem to get great applicants all the time which makes it extra hard. At this point I'll take any nominations or thoughts if not I'll just go ahead and figure it out.
I agree. I think we have exceptional candidates, and you really couldn't make a wrong choice here. I think in watching the library board meetings recently that like I said I had done, I feel like our current library board has been a bit stifled in what they're the input that they have been able to give. And so I would encourage you to give them the opportunity to continue on I think that they bring a lot of great perspective and I've seen them be vocal as much as they can in asking questions during those meetings, which I think is the most critical element is to not just listen but to react and to question the staff and things. That's why we appoint people to the positions The other thing that kind of stood out to me specifically from the applications is that the applicants who are not currently on the board all marked that they had not attended a meeting or watched one online.
And, you know, they're available on the website. It's not a huge barrier to do that. I would encourage those applicants to be involved, to watch those meetings, to come to meetings, to comment. I think that there is opportunity to be engaged in that And that's kind of my perspective.
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I don't have a lot to add. I think if you're looking for continuity, we have some very reputable people currently seeing it through the idea of opening the library with that continuity. And I don't think you can go wrong and just echo the other applicants are very well qualified. If now were the time to consider change, you have two great people to go. So as usual, we don't envy your responsibility.
Thank you. That was very helpful. Yeah, that's why I'm here. Just bought up for me. Thank you. No, thank you.
I don't have a whole lot to add. Our current board is great and I also think the applicants are great. I do love the fact that a dad, a man came in and applied too. We normally get all women. I love that you know potentially have a different perspective but again I don't dislike anybody who's currently on the board so...I'm sorry
No, that's exactly what I want to
hear. We have great applicants.
No, that's true. Yeah, I think this is a great group and I think with this new library there's definitely a lot more interest coming into it because there's a lot of exciting stuff. I think boards like this kind of cycle through some people a lot and that's good get new ideas and perspectives in as well. And I think that whether you're on the board or not, I think it would still be great to stay involved and look forward to the future opportunities that come up. So with that, I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to change things up a little bit just to change some perspectives here. But I'm gonna go ahead and nominate Kristen Blunt and German Chatzky.
We have to take those in two separate. Okay,
that's correct.
Okay, so we'll go ahead and I'll move Kristen Blunt all in favor. You just second list. Yeah, let's do it normally motion make a motion for Chris. I'll second if emotion is second all in favor. All right And I'll make a motion for German Chatsky
second
promotion a second all in favor Thank you. And thank you to all the past members of the board and for future ones, all the work you've done. Kaya Turo, thank you for all the work you've done in the past. It's been great and still stay involved please. Great. Thank you. OK so we can bring Councilman Rubens back in? Ready? All right.
We'll move on to the next item is Item 8, Public Hearings. Consider Resolution Approving Engineer's Report Confirming Diagram and Assessment in Ordering Levy of Assessments for Fiscal Year 26-27 for Landscape and Lighting Maintenance Assessment Districts 26-01 which is Venda Gardens Apartments. Mr. Laurentowski.
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Thank you, Mayor and members of the City Council. This is a public hearing to approve the engineer's report, confirm the diagram and assessment, and order the levy for LMD 26-01 which is the 200 unit apartment project by Danco Communities also known as Vendra Gardens. The engineer's report has proposed a maximum annual levy of $418.25 per multifamily unit that is intended to cover the maintenance costs associated with the detention basin, slope landscaping and vehicular access road on the city-owned parcel north of High Street.
Landscaping within the Caltrans right away on Walnut Canyon Road and landscaping on Casey Road. Staff recommends that the City Council open the public hearing, take public testimony and close the public hearing and adopt a resolution approving the engineer's report confirming the diagram and assessment and ordering to levy of assessment for fiscal year 26-27. Thank you. Are
there any questions of staff? Seeing none we'll go ahead and we'll open the public hearing do we have any speakers?
No Mr. Mayor no speakers on this public hearing item
OK. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing and move to discussion. Very straightforward, new place, new case.
I just have a quick question for staff. If for some reason any of these expenses were to exceed the expectations is it accurate to say that the city would bear no additional expense whatsoever? And that is the responsibility of the LFD.
No, so if if the maintenance exceeded the as an annual assessment The city wouldn't necessarily be obligated to pay additional costs But we would have to at that point look at reducing maintenance costs in order So just said the city not to subsidize those costs when we look at LMB assessments obviously we have a very conservative budget and And remember this is a maximum assessment the actual levy is based on our annual budget process that we go through But we spend considerable time making sure that we will not be underfunded I know you do and I appreciate that.
Thank You, mr. Larentowski no other question
Anymore discuss their comments Entertain a motion
move to approve
Second motion in a second. We need a roll call vote, please
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion in a second. We need a roll call
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Okay, next is Public Hearing 8B. Let's consider introduction of an ordinance adding Chapter 5.68 to the Moorpark Municipal Code entitled High Street Entertainment Zone establishing an entertainment zone adopting boundaries operational requirements and procedures to establish an entertainment zone Pursuant to the California State Senate Bill 969, making determination of exemption pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act in connection therewith. And I believe there's a few recusals before we get into this. Mr. Cashman?
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Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm recusing myself from this item because it involves the addition of new uses on High Street within 500 feet of my home. State law presumes that my property will be affected by this decision.
Mr. Mayor, I'm recusing myself of this item because it could financially affect the owner of my employer Insurance Workers West and the owner's property located at 233 High Street. Thank you.
I just want to apologize to the members recusing themselves. I ate all the steak and lobster in the waiting room. I had no idea you guys were headed that way I thought you don't eat red meat. Made an exception. It's a special day, Mayor.
All right, Mr. Burse?
Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council. My name is Gene Burse, Deputy Community Development Director, and I'm here tonight to present a proposal to establish the High Street Entertainment Zone. This presentation will outline a regulatory framework made possible by changes in California state law in recent years designed to provide cities with an additional tool to help with economic vitality.
Here's an overview of the items that we will cover this evening. We will begin with the policy context on and how this aligns with adopted City Council goals, then we will dive into the specific geographic boundaries, the recommended operational model feedback gathered from key stakeholders including businesses event organizers and law enforcement, and then the recommendation on action for the council to take To provide some context, back on September 28th in 2024 Governor Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 969 into law.
This legislation explicitly amended the state's business and professions code to authorize cities and counties to create localized entertainment zones under state law. An entertainment zone allows patrons to purchase alcoholic beverages from eligible licensed businesses and other entities and consume them Off-premises within designated public streets, sidewalks or rights of way.
However all consumption remains strictly subject to local ordinance controls and state regulations The proposed High Street Entertainment Zone, if implemented, would directly implement Goal 2, Objective 2.7 of the City Council's Strategic Goals for Fiscal Years 2025 through 2027 which focuses heavily on prioritizing economic vitality. Council specifically identified creating an entertainment zone on High Street to enhance the area as a destination for entertainment and shopping.
If the council moves forward with this proposal, the City of Moorpark would join a growing list of cities throughout California which include Santa Monica, Tehachapi, Long Beach, and Sacramento that are actively deploying this tool to stimulate downtown foot traffic. Staff proposes an initial two-year pilot program to test and evaluate the High Street Entertainment Zone.
The zone would allow eligible businesses and permitted entities within the boundaries to sell alcoholic beverages in approved containers for portable consumption, but only during authorized activations. Please note that this will not be a permanent daily fixture. Activation is strictly limited to pre-planned special events where portions of High Street are already closed to vehicular traffic, such as the Apricot Festival, Country Days and Holiday on High Street.
Furthermore, activations will be strictly capped at a maximum of six days per calendar year with operational hours between 10am and 10pm. Now let's take a look at the geography of the zone. The legal footprint is defined as the full width of the high street public right-of-way, spanning between Moorpark Avenue and Spring Road. To maintain tight operational control, adjacent side streets, specifically Bard Street, Magnolia Street and Walnut Street are explicitly excluded from the zone boundaries.
While the legal boundaries extends all the way to Spring Road, staff believes that the actual operational closure area for downtown community events usually is typically between Moorpark and Magnolia. I also want to clarify that privately owned parcels like the High Street Depot's open lawn area Cannot legally be included as part of the entertainment zone boundary because state law restricts entertainment zones to public rights-of-way streets sidewalks Staff looked at different operational management models, which included an internal city-led framework, a third party business improvement district led framework and an event based model using temporary use permit framework.
Because High Street does not have a dedicated downtown business improvement district or merchant association, staff recommends the event-based management model using a temporary use permit process as a good fit for Moorpark. Under this TUP tie framework, the city maintains high level regulatory oversight via the City Manager's Office but the operational logistics, physical infrastructure, boundary signage and security costs are shifted directly to the event organizer.
This leverages our existing familiar temporary use permit process while managing risk and mitigating costs. This flowchart visualizes the legal framework and workflow under our recommended event-based temporary use permit type model. Each TUP will undergo a site plan review, public safety coordination with local law enforcement, and insurance checks. Activation of the High Street Entertainment Zone is purely voluntary.
And on this graphic, where you see the call out of we are here. This delineates the process, where we are in the process. State law enacted the framework for jurisdictions to adopt an entertainment zone via an ordinance The proposed ordinances before you this evening, and then if adopted it outlines the next steps particularly for event organizers of what they would go through in order to activate the zone.
Community engagement was a critical step in building the legal framework presented this evening. Staff met with local businesses and non-profit event organizers. Our local non-profit organizers expressed concerns about financial sustainability, noting that major events rely heavily on exclusive alcohol sales to offset costs of putting on special events. For context, an event like Holiday on High Street can cost roughly $30,000 to produce and organizers rely on recouping thousands of dollars directly through beverage sales.
To help address the concern pertaining to beverage sales, staff designed the proposal before the Council this evening as a flexible framework Please note that staff in conjunction with the City Attorney is still currently seeking confirmation from ABC to allow hosting nonprofits to secure daily permits while the High Street Entertainment Zone is activated. This could potentially be beneficial to all key stakeholders, being event organizers and former nonprofits as well as the typical brick-and-mortar establishments located on High Street.
Staff consulted with the Ventura County Sheriff's Office to evaluate public safety. The Sheriff's Office provided operational feedback pertaining to safeguards that have been incorporated into the proposed ordinance this evening and will be incorporated into the conditions of approval during the temporary use permit approval process. One example of the feedback staff received included licensee-specific container identification, Every approved container must feature a unique color-coded sticker or label so that way the container can be traced back to the permittee that provided, or licensee that provided, that container in case there is a law enforcement issue.
This allows deputies to trace it back and to pinpoint the exact purchase. On January twenty first of this year the community economic development standing committee reviewed this framework and directed staff to bring his ordinance forward to the full council. The committee expressed a desire for the boundary to be legally compliant and that The committee emphasized safeguarding long-term eligibility for future businesses such as those that may move into the High Street Depot development or elsewhere on High Street.
The committee did ask staff to explore including the depot's lawn area, however in conjunction with the city attorney staff clarified that because the lawn area is a privately owned parcel state law prohibits its inclusion into the entertainment zone. Based on the aforementioned, staff recommends that the City Council open the public hearing, receive public testimony and close the hearing.
Staff also requests that the City Council introduce Ordinance No. 533 for its reading, waive the full reading and place the ordinance on the upcoming July 1st, 2026 regular city council meeting agenda. Second reading for second reading and formal adoption This concludes staffs presentation. And with that staff is available for questions
Thank you there any questions of staff
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First goes to the Sheriff's Department Have you do, you know from other cities if there have been any negative impacts? regarding entertainment zones on maybe amount of any extra violence or anything like that associated with opening up these zones
out to Sacramento Police Department. They have an entertainment district and there were some lessons learned from their experiences. Overall, their framework was solid and offered some of the recommendations that Gene spoke about tonight.
Okay, thank you. Just Santa Monica? Pardon? Only Santa Monica? Sacramento. For Sacramento I'm sorry okay.
Council Member if I may the feedback that the Sheriff's Office received from Sacramento they did note that generally speaking there wasn't like an increase in crime or a crime related law enforcement issues they were specific in Saying that basically they saw more people pass out, but they didn't attribute that to the activation of the entertainment zone district. They attributed that during a particular festival.
The weather on that particular day happened to be unusually hot. There were hotter temperatures and so they didn't attribute that to the district, but they did pretty much say there wasn't an increase in crime.
So the same thing that happens to Coachella, it's not the alcohol. It's the heat that gets them. I got it. Thank you.
It also Sacramento. If you've ever been there before, you'll understand why. To be frank.
I do have a couple other questions. Are there any additional costs associated with this permit for the event holders?
So as far as the entertainment zone in and of itself, usually for a TUP when it comes to non-profit entities there isn't a permit fee associated with that. However, nor is there a direct fiscal impact to the city for enacting the Entertainment Zone Ordinance. Now, given that are there costs associated with the event organizers putting on the event that they may have to deal with? More than likely yes.
I'm not sure how many I could outline. For
more security. They'd have to
do fencing and... Yeah, for more security, the wristbands, the approved containers, things of that nature. So yes, they would have to shoulder that burden for those financial that financial burden to provide those things.
How about additional time frame? Is there any added time aside in addition to other permits that they do have to get for this district if they were going to implement the activation?
So they implement the activation, they would only be able to do it between 10 a.m. and 10
p.m.? I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that. They already have to get some ABC permits if they're going to have alcohol. Are there any additional permits or any additional time that will have to be spent on applying for the activation?
Got you. So part of the program, if adopted, event organizers as well as other entities that want to participate in activation of the zone, they will have to work with city staff when it comes to a management plan. They will have to sign and agree to performance agreement. Performance management agreement. They also would have to submit for a temporary use permit Application and so those that's additional time spending additional filling out additional paperwork in order to evaluate their site plan evaluate the event that they want to have and how they Envision the zone operating once it's activated getting police feedback, etc So though that process to fill out that additional paperwork Would take time. I couldn't give you a ballpark figure how long it would take but I would say Generally speaking staff we work pretty hard to try to turn around temporary use permits fairly quickly so it would take some planning on the event organizers and standpoint, but usually probably a matter of a few weeks.
There have been times in which we can turn around TUPs pretty fast. But in this instance I would probably
say a few weeks. And Council Member Delgado sorry to interrupt just for some additional context the majority of the events that have occurred on High Street are and they include a city sponsorship agreement and as part of that sponsorship agreement we forego a temporary use permit But in the absence of that, a temporary use permit would be required for events on High Street and certainly those involving closures regardless of if they sell alcohol or not. So we've kind of been operating in this special circumstance with the event sponsorship agreement but the temporary use permit wouldn't be any additional burden beyond what a non-sponsored event would have to go through.
Would it be an additional burden for staff?
No, we process those routinely.
Thank you.
The TUP is a lot easier to deal with than the ABC's requirements. Every single time you do the same exact event and have to redo all that paperwork, so essentially this lets us take that once and then...
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I have a couple of questions for staff for confirmation With the events that we have today country days holiday high etc Would there, if an entertainment zone goes into place and they do not choose to voluntarily activate it would there be any change to the way that they operate those events currently? No. Perfect, good. This addresses alcohol but more and more we're seeing THC laden beverages.
Would this include any sort of controlled substance in a beverage form or would this only be for alcohol specific? Alcohol
only consistent with state law in ABC. Thank you sir.
A question about security. So what's the security requirement for SB 969? And what are we putting on top of that here?
So as far as security, it's making sure that the event organizer has sufficient security primarily at entry points into the zone. I'm sorry, so
who
defines adequate security? That's what I was wondering. But we will work in consultation with local law enforcement if you're asking is there a specific ratio like one security officer per 100, we don't see that in the state law but we will work with local law enforcement to ensure that there was proper security, private security to work in conjunction with law enforcement to monitor. But generally speaking, you would have at least like maybe one or two people at each intersection to monitor the boundaries of the zones like at Bard and Magnolia and Walnut or however the street closure depending on the width of it is.
OK so what happens when there's a disagreement between what we feel is needed security versus what we're being told for security?
As far as if there's a disagreement, the event organizer disagrees with city staff in conjunction with the local law enforcement to say hey you need I don't know let's say 20 private security guards and the event organizer believes that they only need like five for example just throw out a hypothetical.
The reason I'm saying is that I think our events are over-securitied. And when we have the city paying for things like that, we shouldn't obviously throw money at anything like that. But when you bring this into the private sector and they're looking at having that much police presence for an event during the daytime then it becomes cost prohibitive. So I want to make sure that is safe but not overly safe.
Does that make sense? There's an accepted level obviously
Thank you for the question, Mayor. The temporary use permit though routed through the planning division engages different city departments based on their areas of expertise and as it relates to security requirements we do defer to the judgment of Ventura County Sheriff's Department. I don't know whether that guidance is provided based on the specific nature of the event or if there's some standard formula but we would be relying on their guidance.
And Mayor, you know we have ongoing discussions with the Ventura County Sheriff's Office to address some of those security measures that I know have recently been in place that may be new to some of our event organizers. We're looking at those specific events on a case-by-case basis to determine what type of security issues may arise from from those required security measures. And so we're in discussions with them about looking at the impacts and whether or not, like you stated, could be cost prohibitive or maybe too much or too little in terms of the event and the required security needed for it.
>>:Right. I just think our police have plenty to do out there in terms of catching bad guys and keeping the city safe. And I just don't want to make... I don't want to have us, have our police become, you know, event security guards when we can go out and get event security guards for things like that in the future. Also, this goes into the cups part of it.
The stickered cups was that a law as part of this ordinate? As part of the bill or is that something that is unique to Moorpark or proposed?
So the sticker cups, that's proposed here for a city of Moorpark. State law just wants to make sure that the containers are identifiable. State law just says hey you have a container they can't be glass it can't be metal but in consultation with local law enforcement there was a preference for some type of indicator on the cups and so we wanted to leave maximal flexibility for design and so we said at bare minimum you know some type of sticker or some type of indication some type Containers to where law enforcement could trace it back. But during the TEP process that can also evolve to include additional design or markings to where that container can be traced.
OK, because putting a sticker on a wet cup is not going to work at all. I know that so I think that's I think the ruling says that it has to be in a cup that isn't plastic or that isn't glass or metal, but doesn't get into saying what specific cup it has to be.
Correct?
So what I don't understand is if we put markings on a cup what we're trying to solve with that, to find out what license establishment sold a cup to an underage person. But also that cup could be given out. It could be changed hands. You could put your own stuff in there. There's a lot of things that could happen. I think that just adds another burden to this whole thing.
And so with the markings on the cup in conjunction with the wristbands and trying to identify and work again during the TPP process we worked with local law enforcement and definitely open to ideas on how we can have appropriate demarcations or indications on the cups where those can be traced but obviously There could be some challenges in tracing cups, but we're trying to do what we can.
Right so why is the cup identification unique to the entertainment zone but not to country days or apricot festival or anything else like that when there's multiple different serving
areas? Yes, so the cup will be specific to the actual licensee who's serving it. So it's going to be based on event and based on the establishment or permittee who's actually serving it. For example if you have let's say Country Days and a Lucky Fools pub is participating in Entertainment Zone, that Entertainment Zone is activated they would have a particular cup that would be specifically traced back to Lucky Fools. There will be indications to say we see that cup, we know that it came was served at Lucky Fools.
I understand that. In a perfect world, I mean if I had an establishment on High Street, I'd have my own branded stuff that I'd want to have out there just for other reasons not for traceability but in the event of a situation where you don't have enough cups to go through and you have to pull out something different like a clear plastic cup, that's the part where I don't think there's any value added into having that part of it so I was just wondering maybe we can get a discussion part of it later but I'm just wondering if that was something Part of the rule or something that we put on top of that.
I guess you answered that question. Okay,
I have a follow up for clarity Mr. Mayor if you don't mind. So using the example that was presented here, Lucky Fools was serving alcohol going out into the street and being part of the event. Great. Would they also be required to not use metal or glass non-identified cups in their own place of business? If somebody was sitting down having lunch or eating, would they have to replace all the cups inside the institution as well?
No, they would not. So the way it works is that if an establishment wants to participate in the zone and if a patron wants to participate in the zone by going to Lucky Fools, buying a beer Hey, I plan to walk outside and participate in the zone. They would need a wristband and also a city-approved container so Lucky Fools would pour up the beer in the city approved container that person could take that and then walk outside on the sidewalk in the street in the zone but this does not preclude Lucky Fools from utilizing the cups, the glasses, the containers that they already have as long as patrons are not participating in the entertainment zone.
Appreciate that and it does sound of what I'm hearing that by activating in Entertainment Zone, it would be additional burden on those businesses than the way that we are Having these these street fairs and festivals right now with a without an activated entertainment zone Is that is that a fair statement
if they choose to participate? There are some additional administrative things that they will have to agree to conditions They've had to agree to as a way to mitigate costs direct cost associated with the city
And you alluded to my follow-up question, but each of the individual businesses, brick and mortar businesses would have the choice with each activation to either participate or not participate?
Correct. They will have a choice to participate in the activation however I also do want to say that event organizers if they wanted to activate the zone they could not preclude businesses from participating so it can't be if I were an organizer saying I'm going to activate this zone but I don't want lucky fools to participate You couldn't do that. But the lucky fools could say, hey, the zone's activated. We're fine. We'll pass on participation this time. Thank you. I appreciate your clarity. Thank
you. Can you explain the part that mentions the emergency medical?
Yes of the emergency medical and I'll probably know in Ventura County Sheriff's Office for this. That was a suggestion that they provided as a way to help you know with public safety but I'll probably know Ventura County Sheriff's Office as it pertains to the emergency medical. I believe it was station and being able to be flexible in how we protect the public in case something were to happen.
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Mr. Mayor, I can elaborate on that too. So our thought was that with some of our recent community events there's been some falls, some medical emergencies and the addition of alcohol typically increases the likelihood of medical incidents and injuries associated with altercations. So having a dedicated medical resource on scene will improve response times and reduce impact to public safety. That was our thought process with that.
What does this cost to staff a tent like this?
That I do not know. To staff the emergency medical, that I do not have an answer for. I'm going to lean on our partners at the Pittsburgh County Sheriff's Office.
Is that something that is required for country days and apricot festival?
Yeah, I don't know the cost of... Well, I don't know what the medical. I'm sorry, I haven't been too involved with this item but so it depends on what medical services are. Typically for like a large event the city would hire AMR Medical Services which would bring an ambulance to the site which is several hundred dollars. I think it's about $600 per ambulance and then depends on how many hours For city events, we typically have a metal cold kit at our city booth and things like that. We haven't gone that far to have an AMR ambulance at any of our co-sponsored events at this point.
We have had a lot of discussions with Ventura County Fire though. You know, they are just down the street and they've been able to provide a dedicated fire truck to serve the events but there's always been the caveat that if there is an emergency obviously they've got other things to do and would not be there the whole time so that's kind of how we handled co-sponsored events Yeah.
Mr. Mayor, I was just looking at figure one and we do have a fire station with an ambulance located in the middle of this proposed district. I wonder... Seems like that should be it. ...if that might not serve. And I understand there's potential that they're called away. Fire chief just walked back in. But in the interest of being festival friendly, business friendly or whatnot, I guess I'd want a little more clarity on why we would need additional medical If we as a city were to deem that that was an appropriate amount of medical protection.
As it pertains to the additional medical, I do want to note for the council that that's not something that's being proposed into the ordinance. It would be if provided as a condition of approval for the temporary use permit. So in consultation with our local law enforcement partners, that's something that if they were Say maybe it's not needed for particular of a particular activation. That could be a possibility since it will be a condition of approval and not necessarily built into the ordinance.
So that's within our realm of control and not being dictated by state or some other ruling for entertainment zone? It is not dictated about the state. Thank you, sir.
No questions. OK, do we have any speakers?
Yes, Mr. Mayor we do have one speaker card on this item and as this is a public hearing Individuals addressing the council will have five minutes to speak on the item So if there's anybody else that needs to submit a speaker card, please do so And our one speaker at the moment is Morgan Kent. So miss Kent you have five minutes
to address the council All right. Good evening, Mayor, Councilmembers and staff. My name is Morgan Kent and I am speaking to you on behalf of the High Street Arts Center tonight. It is Ken Razor's birthday so I got sent in his place. So we are one of the businesses on High Street that holds an ABC license in the proposed entertainment zone. First I want to say that we appreciate the vision behind the High Street Entertainment Zone We support the idea of creating more opportunities for businesses to thrive, activating High Street in new ways especially on event days.
At the High Street Arts Center we present Broadway-style productions, comedy concerts, youth theater camps, community programming year round. Also for the past three years we have organized the Moorpark Apricot Festival and Art Fair. I also bring experience from helping organize community events over the past five years, helping organize my Rotary Club's Holiday on High Street and Country Days.
From that perspective, I want to share concern on the nonprofit side. For many of these signature community events alcohol sales are not simply an enhancement but they are a major source of revenue that helps offset significant event costs including permits security entertainment, infrastructure and operations. The reality is that nonprofits are often carrying the financial risk through sponsorships, donations and many volunteer hours.
While I appreciate the concept of allowing both businesses and nonprofits to participate in an entertainment zone, the broad alcohol availability during nonprofit-led events could unintentionally reduce one of the few revenue sources that makes these events financially possible. I've shared with staff and other businesses on High Street our concern. And while we support creating this opportunity, I don't see nonprofit organizations being able to activate the entertainment zone in the near term unless there's a consideration for cost sharing, revenue sharing or another model that recognizes financial burden nonprofits already carry.
Long-term as high street businesses continue to grow we see an opportunity for businesses to organize collectively as the business improvement districts and other things that we have discussed Share in the event responsibilities create a more sustainable event structure for high street and the entertainment zone when it comes When that time comes? With the High Street Arts Center's experience producing events on High Street We could lead And support these efforts to integrate businesses more into the standing community events or to create new ones together as a coalition of businesses. We are invested in the continued growth and success of High Street, and hope this entertainment zone can evolve in a way that supports both businesses and the nonprofits that have helped build these community events.
Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank You.
And Mr. Mayor if I may? I wasn't sure if I heard you open the public hearing.
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Well open, Mr. Mayor. Last speaker? OK. We'll go ahead and we'll close the public hearing now. Sorry. OK, yeah so a lot of good points out there. I think when this whole thing came up when I saw this ruling, I thought that It's something that could take us into the future with High Street. It's not something we could do right this second, I don't think because you look at the amount of licenses on the street there's not that many. There's a lot of vacancies, a lot of open spots that when those things start to fill up this thing starts to get a little bit different. But when I was involved in planning country days a long time ago, it was always tough. And everyone always knows it's like a very small group of people that are doing way too much work to get the whole thing done and it's a giant event and it's great.
It's fun. Tons of people are there but at the end of the day it's very few people that are putting these things together. We never really had any alcohol sales in the parties down there, or the events we did. So what I noticed was that we always had a problem with country days especially since we'd put this thing on and then people would just be gone after the parade is out.
And our brewery would be packed with people so I figured if we put some beer down there, people would probably stay. So that's where we started doing the donations and we started getting the service groups to get in and start Doing the little bar pop-ups with wine and beer. And since then, it's been great. It's been helping out with a lot of the cost sharing with setting up... Actually, a lot of that goes into setting up the cones and security and everything else that's needed to actually have alcohol on the street so we can adjust those things will be a little bit better but they did help with the events as well.
But when we look at the reason we're doing these events down there, one might say that we're doing them to raise money for a group. Some might say that they're for community events. I believe they are community events. Like for country days, I wanted to see the most people come down there and have a good time with their neighbors and have Have a wonderful Saturday. And if it broke even, obviously we don't want it to cost money because that wouldn't be a good idea either. But if it carried the costs and handled that event the way it needed to bring people together, I thought that was a success. So when you look at the future of these things When High Street starts to fill up with a lot more restaurants and businesses, they're going to want to be a part of these events down there.
Obviously it's gonna be blocking their spots. And instead of importing the whole party to High Street because we had nothing down there for so long It would be good to have High Street start running these things. Now when it comes down to who's up for the costs, that will have to work itself out on its own. I would not expect the Rotary Club to go and do all the work just for the businesses downtown to make all the money off of it. That wouldn't make sense at all.
sharing the cost of these things. That's something that's going to have to, you know, flush itself out as we go. And we'll probably see that starting now with a heavy emphasis on service groups putting these events together and then as the restaurants start coming in and more licenses, we'll start seeing more help going into that. And that's up to the private businesses on High Street and the service clubs are putting these things together to make something that works out well for both that can make the best event.
So I think it's a great way to... It's a great thing. Like I said, I don't think it's going to be something that we're gonna be able to run tomorrow but thinking about this into the future, I think this is a really good one that I can see having a good benefit. Where's my rant? Sorry. What are your thoughts?
You own significantly more brewery than I do so I appreciate hearing your input. Do you want to go next?
So thank you. So I wholeheartedly hear where the nonprofits are coming from, and that was my number one concern as well. You know, alcohol sales is the way that they make back a lot of the costs associated with running. And I did speak with The Shields from Lucky Fools today. I spoke with Luna Yena, the owners of Luna Yena, and I spoke with a stakeholder in Frida's.
All three did tell me that without without any uncertainty, that these events bring more business to them on those days than on other normal Saturdays or whenever it is that the events are. So obviously they're already getting a benefit from these events so I would hate to see I mean, it is up to the nonprofits to even activate this event. But I do feel that it is an opportunity for both the nonprofit and the business to now be able to do some type of cost sharing profit sharing to help each other. I do think it would help the businesses as well because not everybody necessarily wants a beer or a glass of wine. Maybe they want a margarita. I don't know if you can even have alcohol.
Beer, wine and distilled spirits
Okay, so. Just not Tom's weed drinks. Okay.
And Mayor I want to clarify something earlier you asked about the stickers being required of the proposed ordinance. Stickers per se are not required but just identification markings labels and color coding. I wanted to clarify that.
The color coding was as a requirement, like a
state requirement? No. Well we put that in the ordinance. The state requirement just says non-glass, non-metal container. That's it. Yeah. Non-glass, non-metal. Yeah, non glass. Now that's what the state requirement and then we... But stickers are not required per se. I want to correct that. Just
something else to put on there to make it
more
burdensome for... Okay.
But no, at the end of the day I just think if we allow this opportunity, I think some events could take advantage of it and it could be helpful to everyone and maybe a new committee is formed for the high street restaurants and businesses to look further into this, to maybe donate a portion of the alcohol sales for that day to the non-profit event to help in cost sharing.
I don't think we can lose by doing this, by allowing it. At the end of the day, it is the event's opportunity to activate it at all. So it will take... You know, the first time around, I think might get... It might be complicated but I think once it's done, I think everybody would be able to benefit.
I just wouldn't want to hold ourselves back from a better event just because We don't want to share the benefit of putting that together. That's the main concern. But when I was thinking about this, just to be clear, I have no bar on High Street and I'm not putting anything down there so this does not benefit me one bit at all except for me just going there and hanging out having a good time.
As a matter of fact, I know you donate
all of the beer that all of the
nonprofits
do. I just want to make sure people don't think that I'm going to be selling beer on High Street. I can't do that. ABC says it can't happen and I made sure that wasn't gonna be a conflict but since it's my job and we're talking about beer sales, I wanna just be clear with them so everyone sees that one. But the way we work things in the alley where the brewery is, we have... It's almost like a little mini high street down there And we put on some very, very big events. Oktoberfest. We do a Spring Fest. A whole bunch of things. Christmas tree lighting.
And the way we run those ones is that we all get together and we talk to other business owners that are in that spot because we're all in the same pretty much street right there. The alley. And we share some costs. We'll look at which one is going to be benefiting the most. We're not going to share it evenly, but we'll take the brunt of the cost here. But then, you know, the winery for instance will pitch in and get extra toilets outside. The restaurant will pitch in and do different things like trash. So we all kind of share those things. But at the end of the day, we all work really hard But we can make actual money on that. And that helps us fund these things. So when you look at the events down here, Lucky Fools, Fridas, M, unfortunately not M anymore.
But places like that will do really well on an event day when there's a lot of people out there. But there's got to be something different between just opening up your business on an event day and actually being part of the event thing itself. So I spoke to... Tuesday, I met with Leslie from Lunaena, Phil from Frida's, Ken and Morgan from the High Street Art Center.
And Mike Shields couldn't make it. He had a scooter accident so pray for him. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery. But we talked about what those events could look like in the future. And if those restaurants were to go out and play an active, active role in being part of this and making more money with that, then that also helps out with everything else that goes on the street because obviously you got to pay some money to make something. We've got to pay for a lot of equipment to have a big giant Oktoberfest party but that's just part of it. And I think that's where if there's more revenue in the downtown, more people coming into it, there's a lot more opportunities to have a bigger event. And I don't think restaurant owners are going to be the ones that want to go out there and do the party planning of everything.
It just is a lot of work. So I think that's where I think groups can get hired in to help out with these things. There's going to be some cost sharing involved in that as well. So, that's one of the things that I think we'll see growing as we go. But you know, we don't have to always have the whole street cut off either. We can cut off small sections of the street, I believe. Is that right?
Yes, so from a legal standpoint the boundary would be between Moorpark and Spring. As long as the physical street is closed then the zone can be activated. So between Moorpark and Spring along High Street whichever section is closed that's the area that could be legally activated.
Right. So you could close off between Bard and Moorpark Road, have a small section there?
Correct.
OK. Because what I was thinking would be great to see Lucky Fools go and do a St. Patrick's Day event there because it's always so packed inside there. And they have an opportunity to do that or Fresas can do a smaller one up the street more and just more traffic routing that doesn't close the whole street down. Then of course our bigger events like Country Days we have that Bringing a car show back to High Street would be great because that spans the whole street and it's not just one little section of parties here and there. It's a hard geography because it's just a big, long thin street and having multiple things are tough but I think at the end of the day, it just gives us a lot more opportunity.
And hopefully it'll bring some more interest in renting some buildings down there so we can get these places filled up. I do want to touch on the cup thing again. I feel like we're putting too much on these things. I think the state laws are already tough enough to deal with. I don't see us getting anything out of that. The branded, the approved, the stickers, the specific licenses.
I think it'd be nice to see in the future if there was a business improvement district or the licenses all got together and decided that they could go out and buy a pallet of high street branded cups that could be the ones. But I would hate to make that into a requirement You know, if you don't have branded cups now you have to have some sort of like signature on it or a sticker or a clip. It's just from a person who has served beer at all these events that's one more thing that will just not happen and just won't get done. I don't think it can be easy to do.
What are your thoughts on that?
Mayor, may I elaborate on that just a little bit? Thank you. It really is sort of an investigative tool for us in the sense that if there's any over-servicing of alcohol at a particular establishment and we kind of see that as a reoccurring event in some of these events it really just is another tool for us to help establish where that alcohol is being served. That was kind of the thought process behind that.
True, but you can always just take a glass and pour booze into it or have a water bottle full of it like probably most of them are out there. So I just don't... And most the time we're having these events they're daytime events. There's kids, strollers, parents. I mean people were having like one beer and that's about it. I've never seen anyone get into anything. And I think we're treating it like it's a nightclub in downtown L.A., when it's really just Saturday, basic day. So I would rather err on the side of not going overboard with a lot of these requirements and adjusting them as we need to if that's the case because I think that when we have Licenses on High Street that want to get involved in this, it's already a lot of extra work. I mean, we want them to get involved in these things.
It'll be better if they do get involved with better events but it's not going to be better when a license just says why would I go through all that stuff? Why would I go and pitch in 200 bucks for the medical tent or all these extra cups or stickering or whatever it is when I could just have my bar open for people to come in when the seats already filled up That's kind of an issue. And I think if we don't tackle these security issues, we're not going to ever see this street open up unless it's government that puts it together and pays that. So I would like to really go back on that one. I don't think that's a...
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Do you'd like to revert to the state requirements with no additional Moorpark verbiage? Is that correct?
Yeah. I would like to go with the state requirements, which I think are already too much saying no metal, no glass. I mean fine we can use plastic that's okay but I'd like to go there and then maybe encourage places to get branded stuff. Encourage people to get together and buy more but and do maybe a high street one in the future. But I don't think this is going to be something that's just easy to do. And I don' think it's actually needed either. That's my opinion That's coming from my experience of running a brewery with massive parties and never seeing any problems in those. So that's it.
>>:Well, somebody who doesn't have a brewery and is usually part of the problem I feel like I've got a good counter... No, I don't disagree with anything that you said there. First of all, I had the pleasure of being on this ad hoc and just want to compliment the city staff for putting this together in the effort that they went through. They got to enjoy working with Miss Delgado and Endure dealing with me and my follow-up questions. What I really like about this starts conceptually which is we have invested a ton of money into High Street so that we can activate that street, have street festivals, have street fairs.
We've also invested a ton of money so that the brick and mortar And it's Went and found ways that are out there that we can encourage and support our non-profits, our for profits that might want to do some sort of festival or street fair as well as our local businesses. So huge applause to how we got here in concept as well as the work that went into getting this to be Detailed as it could be because while there are some examples, there aren't a ton of examples of how this is done. Which gives us a chance to be a leader in this concept.
Now I'll tell you what I don't love. I don't love that a great concept can be ruined by compliance and enforcement and state rules. You heard our city staff Discuss that the High Street Depot which was designed to be a gathering center in the middle of our entertainment, you know district Can't be used officially because of some some rules outside of our control I just and I think we're going to stumble upon some of that We have a fire station in the middle of the street. Do we really need to be requiring these?
these I hate that we're burdening and making it harder because of the way that some of this is structured. But this is a pilot program. It's got a two-year run it is a voluntary program I think he gives us a chance to learn a ton So, I'm very supportive of stripping back some of those recommendations because we don't know that we have a problem yet with With people over serving and having to track back where these things are occurring And while I completely respect the perspective of law enforcement We are One of the safest cities because we have the best armed law enforcement agencies in our city that anywhere in the state. I also think that with a pilot program with voluntary activation, we can learn along the way so I'm open to making those changes One of my other frustrations with this particular item Has nothing to do with this item.
It has to do with everything I can't talk about, you know City attorney and as I will walk this very carefully But I can't talk about how this would relate to a downtown specific plan I can' t talk about how this might relate to a business improvement district I can''t talk about how this would relate to bollards that might reduce our Security costs or increased security costs and we can't take any of those sorts of things into account what? Discuss them while evaluating the entertainment district, and that is maybe that's government But it is incredibly frustrating to me that there's a major concept coming together Supporting a huge investment of time effort energy and money in the heart of our city And we have to take this piecemeal and then when we get Down the line we start talking about one of those other things.
We go, oh gee whiz wish we'd been able to fully flush that out and that's not city staff. That's regulation or whatnot so you had your rant now I have mine. I think it's unfortunate and I don't know if there's anything we can do about it except as we think about this in our own minds and as those other things come in front of us using a pilot program Offered here. Thank you And on a voluntary basis where the organization's don't have to be restricted in any way In order to find our ways that we can do Betty better for our city so long story short I am I'm in favor of the entertainment district. I am in favor of the changes that That the brewery owner and knowledgeable person with alcohol sales on our Council is Has to make and I I'm excited to see where we go with this
Without getting two specifics that you were dancing around what I was
trying to say not talk about those
things That goes with what you're saying. Was that? I want to really find out What we can do to bring down the costs To put events like this on and that might be a myriad of different things whether it is parking trucks and paying people to stand there versus having Concrete things in the ground or whatever that might be I want to look at that, and I want to try to balance this out and not be planning for a Al Qaeda attack every event but a reasonable Saturday expectation of What's gonna happen? So I think we need to really focus on that otherwise We will not ever get this off the ground because it will be too cost prohibitive to run anything And the restaurants there already are going to be doing well. So this is just, it has to be attractive enough for someone to go out of their way to do even better on a day like that.
So that has to be a continued discussion with This as well as any other event even the charity events. We do apricot festival things like that We got to really tighten those things up a ton mayor
if we move forward with this The way I'm seeing it, and I'm not sure that maybe we're in disagreement or maybe we're in agreement It seems like it is an extra tool in the tool belt of any event planner, whether or not they choose to use it. And so I don't find a reason why we wouldn't move forward with it. Am I missing something there Mr. Mayor?
That's absolutely right and I think down the road this is where things could get weird I suppose. I just want to put it out there and air it because when you have let's say you have one group that's been doing an event for a long long time And then now you have a lot of businesses coming into High Street that want to take ownership of things like that. That's when there is going to be either a combined effort or there's gonna be a dispute.
I hope there's a combined effort in that, but I don't think anyone has dibs on any of the events we're doing. I want to see the best events we can have for the whole community. And I think if we have that in our minds going into this, we'll have a better thing. But I just don't want to get to the point where it's now this conflict of the businesses on High Street and the groups that have done it in the past for so long. And
And if I may, excuse me Mayor, if I may interject. Staff may have a proposal to address your concern pertaining to the requirements for containers on page 41 of the packet under proposed section 5.68.070 operating requirements subsection 5.68070.020 containers And I made Leon city attorney for assistance. Staff can propose some language to where we can modify that section to pretty much lean on the nine glass nonmetal containers, which is consistent with state law and then make the proposal language that is optional for containers featuring unique licensee specific identification markings labels or color coding so that way it can be More.
A little more building some more flexibility but mainly on the city to the attorney for some specific language if it's optional than what's the value had having it in there. I'm sorry if it's optional than what the value of having it in the ordinance there could be some businesses are. Licensees that may want to include that but they just don't see additional funny I would
encourage that I would encourage businesses to brand their own stuff anyway so it's a good idea. I will say having clear plastic cups is is the best thing no matter what you can see what's inside the cup as well and that's that something that I think Anyone would probably want anyways
Yes, mr. Mayor a suggestion to incorporate your request would be to change the sentence in the ordinance that Mr. Burris was indicating where it says all such containers must feature unique license specific identification markings Labels are color-coding to trace the point of purchase subject to the approval of the police chief Or is designee that that be replaced with applicants shall be encouraged but not required to use containers that feature unique license specific identification markings labels or color coding.
To trace the point of purchase subject to the approval of the police chief or his designee. Is that more acceptable? Yeah, I think it's a good option. Okay so that would be the change to that section if you wanted to incorporate that
If I may, Mr. City Attorney, how can we say encouraged subject to the approval?
Well if they are encouraged you want to just strike subject to the approval?
I was going to strike from the word all all the way through the end of it. So delete the whole sentence because it's just presumed. I don't know how we can genuinely question how we can say we encourage you To be subject to approval
well what you could do is you could encourage them to consult with the sheriff's department to get their input and then they can decide to do it or not.
Is that input or so that's the problem of the question I'm having, is it input or is it a mandate? If I say it's up to you, if someone says I would recommend you do this and then I went ahead and said okay I'm gonna not do that That's an input, but a mandate is I strongly need you to do this or else you can't have the permit. So which
one... It sounds like the council's preference is to not require it And it's completely up to the applicant to decide if they want to, but it wouldn't be subject to the approval of the sheriff. So maybe you either delete the entire sentence... Yeah, it's a cup. I mean these
companies are selling beer and liquor all day every day and just because you're 10 feet into the street all of a sudden things are Wacky, so I think it's just and
what you do. What you could do mayor is as you indicated This is a living document in the sense after you've had a couple events And there's issues and you identify them and you can come back at amend this ordinance and tweak these different things To add them in or take them out as necessary. But if you wanted to just start without the requirement, you could do that?
Right. I'd rather just do that. I think the state law is already overarching enough for what this is and if we need to tighten things up, we can and I don't see the... My biggest concern is drunk driving and anything like this. People walking off with a different cup or something in there, it's not big of a deal to me but drunk driving is the main one and I don'y think anything we're going to do on these things Change that any more than normal you know safe serving protocols would.
If anything it's actually safer because the restaurant they're now serving people there served by trained bartenders that have done the job Many, many times have gotten into the issues with any type of alcohol problems. Whereas we have service organizations it's usually volunteer servers and it's not the same thing so I'd feel more comfortable knowing that a trained bartender is the one doing this anyway. So I think it just It's safer in general that way, but I think just the non glass Non-metal is good enough. I think as we do these things. I mean we're I would probably Guarantee that businesses are gonna want to have their own branded stuff Just because it's just better that way if you're gonna buy your own cups for events like this You get a better deal doing a bulk and If we encourage that, that's great.
And I think in the future if this becomes a thing that's used more often there will probably be a high street version of this which would be great to see anyways so but I think for now just going off what the state rules say Regular cups. Nothing fancy with it. Non-glass, non-metal. That'll be hard to... Yeah. Right.
OK. So delete the second
sentence. And then the medical... We have the biggest medical tent in High Street on the street so I think we should just... Yeah
that's not part of the ordinance it's just part of the staff report.
And Mayor, I mean yeah to your point in terms of us deleting this. I mean we'll work obviously with the Sheriff's Office. I mean there is requirements for wristbands and things like that maybe there's other opportunities to identify which individuals purchase those things from certain establishments and as you all mentioned it's a pilot program and we'll monitor it and see if there are any issues that come up.
And can staff do one more round with Chief Ochipenti just to maybe see if we can consolidate the medical presence like, like we've been talking about. Maybe not require a first aid tent or booth and maybe it's just one other person that day being there even if everybody else is out on emergency there's still one person available I think it was last year, someone collapsed just a few feet away from me and the fire department physically ran and was there within a minute. So maybe that's just...
Yes, that would be great.
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Honorable Mayor, Council Members, so just to be clear Anything that we push forward in support of an event is in alignment with the Ventura County EMSA agency's recommendations. So when you file for an event permit, it defers to the county policy. Which recommends, and specifically it says events with 2,500 or more people should have standby EMS on site. And then there's different criteria for events of 10,000 or 15,000 or more which requires some approval of the event medical plan by the medical director but none of it specifically requires for events 2,500 or greater just simply says should.
The other thing I would add is absolutely the 911 system is going to be the primary method of advanced life support and the standard of care to facilitate transport to the hospitals. So even when you do have, even though I would recommend it, when you do have an event, the 911 system is gonna be invoked for any patient that's requiring a higher level of care or transport to the hospital.
And lastly, what I would tell you is we're not going to let the city fail when there's an event simply because there's not EMS on standby. We're still going to respond and we are still going to provide the service that the community expects of us so hopefully that provides some clarification.
Yeah thank you. I think my hang up was not that it's not needed it was just that Is it unique to people having beer on the street versus not? And if it's a big event with nothing going on, there's no alcohol sales and there's 3,000 people out there. I understand that people are gonna probably need some sort of medical of some sort like a fainting or we've seen that happen all the time but I just want to make sure we weren't requiring that just because of this unique thing only and that was it.
No, to be clear it has nothing to do with the premise of the entertainment zone. It's simply the size of the event. And to be clear, we do see an increase in calls generally speaking when we do have these events. As Council Member Delgado pointed out at every event we have a couple of calls. The challenge with events on places like High Street is it's populated and it's difficult to access in there. The onsite EMS standby services generally can render aid pretty quickly but we respond to any call for service so...
Okay.
Thank you.
And just for clarity, it's not in the ordinance to have the medical. So that is not something we need to make a decision on?
That
is correct. It's not
mandated by your ordinance. Understood.
And then with the daily project, with the village green area. I know it makes it kind of weird but you could... Let's just say for instance there was three restaurants in that spot. You could walk into those restaurants, walk out into the grassy area, hang out there and then walk out into the street. You just couldn't bring someone else's into that area. That's what would happen, I think. Right.
Incredibly stupid.
It's very stupid. It's the same thing with the brewery and it's that...
You can't take a beer from Frida's onto that property but I can take beer that came off of that property onto the street because of the private public. And that is not on staff. I did not mean stupid to anybody here but like that's where I'm talking about compliance defeats great concepts.
The ABC has a lot of problems with the way they do the rules, the way they understand how they're even in existence. But you know with the brewery and I talked to one of the agents about this if the person goes into the winery and gets wine and wants to walk over to the brewery and sit at the bar they can't do that but they can go out in the alley and sit by themselves there If it's a safety thing, I would rather that person sitting in front of our bartenders who can watch them and say hey this person will call the winery. This person is a little too much or whatever so it doesn't make any sense. It's just these arbitrary laws are just thrown out there.
I think this is entertainment zone one. It is good, but it has a lot of whiffs of government in it like getting to the end zone and just flopping flat on your face. There's a lot of things you could do to make these things better and easier to deal with. I'm glad it is something, because it's better than nothing. But I would like to see more logic put into a lot of... I mean everything in government. What am I saying? I'd like to see more logic everywhere. Presuming
that we can't get common sense Into the ABC regulations, how do we move forward with this in a way that you as somebody who has that insight can get behind? It's a pilot program. We're going to learn from it. We've taken out some of the restrictions that might be overbearing We'll be able to watch the development. It sunsets. It's not even like, oh we'll renew it in two years. It sunsets unless we take an action. None of the organizations have to use it in case it's too burdensome or a way that we can't envision and yet for the new businesses that are coming in you talked about a street party on St. Patrick's Day for a particular organization stuff. It might be a selling point to why come to Moorpark? Why be on High Street? In interest of potentially moving forward What else will we need to do to make a decision on this from your perspective?
Nothing. For the most part, I've already sold on doing this. I'm just kind of chatting just because I think the subject is interesting. But there's no reason not to go ahead with it. There are things we're going to learn as we go. The issues we talked about with who gets to do what and how does the money go, that will flush itself out there. And I do think it helps us with High Street in general. We need more help bringing in businesses down there And this is just one more thing that we're going to do that no other city in the area has.
And it helps us market that street and I hope that brings in the right people that want to get together and be proactive in this. I think we'll have some great events out of it. And sure, some of the ABC laws are stupid. They don't make any sense whatsoever but they're a hell of a lot better doing this than not doing this so
If that's the case, I would encourage us to as we move forward remember this is a pilot program and can be massaged and changed for our benefit as we cover some of those other topics that I can't talk about but that we know we're going to address in the next three six months. Three to nine months. I do think these things need to fit together. What a shame that we can't do them all at the same time But if that's the case and we're all in agreement, then I'd move to approve this with the changes that we've already talked about on the redaction of that second line unless there is any other modifications that you guys think need to be made at this time or city staff or attorney has recommendations for.
Mayor, I would just add that staff is willing to provide the council with an update. One of the jurisdictions in Southern California City of Santa Monica months into their pilot entertainment zone they provided an update to city council on how it was functioning, how it was operating, how it was being used so city staff is willing to provide those updates to the council even during the pilot period.
Point of clarification. If we approve this, we could modify it by our choice when you bring it back to us partway through the pilot program and make it more effective in some way, right?
The ordinance... I will lean on a city attorney but it's my understanding that if council were to move forward with this in a favorable manner tonight and then second reading July 1st then in effect 30 days thereafter we have to send it to ABC It will be in effect, but if let's say for example and sometime in 2027 the council wish to modify the ordinance. The council could do so yes Yes, we have an out
I second your motion.
Yeah, so the motion is to introduce for first reading Ordinance number 533 and ordinance of the City of Moorpark California Adding chapter five point six eight the Moorpark Municipal Code as amended with respect to section five point six eight point zero seven zero point zero two zero To delete the second sentence And this ordinance is entitled high street entertainment zone establishing an entertainment zone adopting the boundaries operational requirements and procedures in compliance with state law Senate bill 969 a motion would be in order to wait for the reading declare ordinance number 533 as amended introduced for first reading and Place the ordinance on the agenda for July 1st 2026 for purposes of providing second reading and adoption of the ordinance
Yeah, that's what I said
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So we have a motion from Councilman means and a second from councilmember Delgado so a voice vote I can't remember means I Councilmember Delgado. Hi mayor in a grim eye and the record will reflect that council members Barrett and Castro are recused from this item
Next step, we'll make the whole city entertainment zone Have some fun here. Any snacks left in there? Okay, next is Presentation Action Discussion Item 9B. And that's to consider a resolution authorizing mid-cycle amendments to fiscal year 26-27 budget. Ms. Staver?
Good evening Mayor and City Council members. Tonight I'm presenting the final proposed mid-cycle adjustment to fiscal year 26- 27 adopted budget On May 20, 2026 proposed mid-cycle adjustments are presented to the City Council for review and discussion. Since the meeting several revisions have been made. The total revenue increase is $395,481. This amount reflects the reduction by $78,000 to endowment fund. Previously a portion of the CHP lease payment was allocated to reimburse the endowment fund for tenant improvements cost.
As that reimbursement has now been completed, 100% of the lease revenue is being recognized in the general fund. Therefore this $78,000 expected revenue has been removed. For the total expenditure adjustment is $6,738,127. The net increase of $56,484 from last meeting. This is primarily due to the landscape maintenance contract approved in last meeting on June 3rd and also increasing the broadcasting contract partially offset by a reduction of credit card processing fees. So this comes out to the total 56,484.
With these adjustments the city continued to maintain a balanced budget with estimated general fund surplus of 397,818 at the end of fiscal year 26-27 Staff recommends the city council adopt the resolution amending the fiscal year 26-27 budget as presented in Exhibit A of the resolution. This concludes my presentations and I'm available for any questions.
Are there any questions of staff? No questions? Do we have any speakers?
No, Mr. Mayor, no speakers on this item.
Okay. Moving to discussion.
Sure, I'll make a comment. This is for us to acknowledge and update. But we look at a total expectation of $395,000 being moved to the reserve fund after all these changes and a lot of red and a lot of work on the city's part. And yet there are things that we can't talk about here because of the structure and I don't mean to be railing on procedures that might make that number not right.
And just a reminder we're from a cash flow standpoint. We're broke and we need to be reviewing Projects and whatnot as we go along because there's not there's not a surplus here, and it's not it's not getting better even with things that we've done like Reduction in credit card fees so I think we all know it Just given it giving it voice that you know It just keeps showing up in front of us that there's uh there's something for us to be paying attention to
Absolutely. There needs to be some cuts along the way, and we need to really start fine-tuning it. We spent a lot on big projects, and that was great. But it can't go on forever.
And... If the entertainment zone brings in an extra million dollars or two, we'd be good too. It will. Yeah.
Any more comments?
OK.
I'll go ahead, and I'll move approval. I second. We have motion and a second. We need a roll call vote.
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second. We need a roll call
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All right, next is presentation action discussion item 9C. It's considered adoption of a resolution calling and giving notice of the holding of the general municipal election to be held on Tuesday November 3rd 2026 for the election of certain officers of the city requesting the board of supervisors the county of Ventura to consolidate said municipal election with the statewide general election on said date An adoption of resolution requesting the Board of Supervisors of the County of Ventura to permit the county clerk to render services to the City of Moorpark for the general municipal election and to canvass the returns of a general municipal election.
Ms. Spangler?
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening, Mayor Innegren and City Council members again. The general municipal election is scheduled for November 3rd, 2026 for the purposes of electing a mayor and two council members to the city council. As a refresher six years ago, the city of Moorpark transitioned to district-based elections. I cannot believe that's six years already.
Along with the creation of election districts, the sequence for each district was also established. With Districts 2 and 4 being voted upon in the first cycle and Districts 3 and 1 being voted upon in the second cycle. Because the Mayor serves a two-year term that position is voted upon in each election cycle. Following the established sequence in 2026, the election will include Councilmember positions for District 1 and 3 in addition to the mayoral election.
The candidate filing period begins Monday July 13th and will close at 5 p.m. on Friday August 7th If an incumbent does not run for re-election, the candidate filing period for only that position is extended to Wednesday, August 12th at 5 p.m. The City of Moorpark consolidates its elections with the County of Ventura. The Ventura County Elections Division provides election services to the city along with the other nine cities in the county.
There are two resolutions before you this evening for adoption. The first calling and giving notice of the general municipal election to be held on November 3rd, 2026 and providing for those election services within the second resolution. The city's fiscal year 2026-27 adopted budget includes $40,400 to cover the estimated cost of the election services for the three positions that will be voted upon.
Staff is recommending council adopt the two resolutions included in the agenda report and direct staff to transmit them to the Ventura County Elections Division. This concludes my presentation and I'm available for any questions.
Thank you. Are there any questions? Do we have any speakers?
No speakers on this item.
Okay, moving to discussion. Just as Kai said. There's no discussion? I'll go ahead and move adoption. Second. We have a motion and a second. Need a roll call vote.
And if I may just ask the city attorney, I'm presuming they're taking both items at the same time? Yes.
Yes, you can take both items at the same time.
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second. Need a roll call
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All right, next is Presentation Action Discussion Item 9D. That's to consider resolution revising the City Council rules of procedure for council meetings and related functions and activities for compliance with Senate Bill 707 and rescinding Resolution Number 2019-3798. Ms. Spangler?
Good evening again, Mayor and members of the City Council. The item before you this evening is a revision to the resolution that sets forth the city council rules of procedure for council meetings and related functions in order to comply with Senate Bill 707 SB707 which became effective this year City council meetings and meetings of legislative bodies are subject to open meeting laws under the California Government Code Specifically the section known as the Ralph M. Brown Act or Brown Act The goal of supporting public access and encouraging participation in public meetings Is what 707 is intended to do? And so it makes various changes to the Brown Act One of the primary changes established by the legislation is the requirement for eligible legislative bodies to provide for remote public comment during meetings beginning July 1st, 2026 along with the adoption of a telephonic or internet disruption policy in the event that remote participation is interrupted during a public meeting.
Many other provisions of the legislation are ones that the city already has in place, such as meeting translation, interpretation and accommodation services when those types of services are requested. Ability to subscribe for agenda publication notifications and updates and having a webpage dedicated to public meetings. We'll be making some adjustments to ensure that everything is in full compliance with SB 707 but that webpage has existed for a very long time.
The provisions of SB 707 require that the adoption of policies included in the legislation must be presented at a publicly noticed meeting and cannot be on the consent agenda, and therefore consideration of the required policies are before you tonight as a presentation item. The two provisions in SB 707 are practices that are not currently in place and therefore policy adopting these two points of the legislation require council consideration. Those elements include providing a hybrid meeting format, allowing for public participation via 2-way audio visual or 2-way telephonic connection and a policy to address telephonic or internet service disruption during a meeting. So I take us way back to 2020 again, just like the last one. During COVID-19 when in person meetings had a switch to remote format cities were required to provide a means for remote attendance of legislative body members as well as members of the public Various options existed for remote attendance, and the city adopted Zoom as its platform to conduct its meetings.
When in-person meetings were permitted to resume with social distancing protocols, members of the public could resume in-person attendance or continue to attend remotely via Zoom. The city continued the practice of providing remote attendance options for public until the city experienced what's become known as zoom bombing and For many of us that were familiar with that term but for those that may not be Zoom bombing is when individuals join a meeting remotely often under assumed names with the intent of disrupting the public meeting Often this involves hate speech under the guise of public comment.
When this occurred, because remote public comment was not a requirement of the Brown Act when it did happen to the city, the city chose then to discontinue the use of remote public participation. Zoom's only been allowed for consultants to attend or in cases when City Council members have needed to be away and want to attend the council meeting remotely via the previous teleconferencing provisions that were previously provided within the Brown Act.
With the effectiveness of SB 707, cities must now allow for that remote public participation through either two-way telephonic or two-way audiovisual platform. The Zoom meeting platform has become well known and is heavily used since COVID 19 and many members of the public are familiar and use that format as I believe all of you do for different purposes now.
The city already has existing licensing for the Zoom webinar functions that were previously used to conduct remote meetings. Because of the general public familiarity with Zoom and the software licensing is in place, staff is recommending that Zoom continue to be used as the city's platform for the hybrid meeting format. In the past also, those seeking to speak remotely under general public comment or on other items on the agenda would only have that audio capability. Interested parties would be able to log into the meeting through a phone using a toll-free number, launch an app on their smartphone, or join the meeting via desktop computer.
Also in compliance with SB 707 minor change to the existing language to the rules of participation Relating to the timing of speaker card submissions is incorporated into the draft resolution under SB 707 individuals wishing to speak under public comment or other items on the agenda are Permitted to submit cards up to the close of the comment period for each item Previously you had have it submitted prior to the item commencing In addition to providing for remote participation, the council is also required to adopt a telephonic or internet service disruption policy in the event that service is interrupted and the public cannot comment remotely.
In the event of a service disruption, a recess is required in order to attempt to restore service. The recess shall be for up to one hour but can be shorter if service is restored. If service can't be restored, a motion would be required making a finding that the public interest in continuing the meeting outweighs the public interest in remote access. In practice if a technological disruption were to occur, the city clerk would advise the mayor and a recess would be called for the other eligible legislative bodies. The clerk would advise the presiding officer and a recess would be called. Information services staff will troubleshoot the outage and make best efforts to restore remote public access.
Since many systems work in concert to provide webcasting and live television broadcasts, and Zoom connectivity which includes internet feeds, cable television providers, and the city's live casting vendor there are a lot of pieces in play Although we have a very robust technological system and backup provisions do exist due to all those multiple points, we can't guarantee the restoration of service.
But I know that our IT staff has got many processes in place and checklists of what to do in the event of this or that. And staff will do its very best to restore that service as quickly as possible. In addition to updating the council rules of procedure to comply with SB 707 requirements and to incorporate minor technical Formatting cross-reference updates to improve clarity Excuse me remove outdated language and ensure the rules reflect the city's current practices and applicable Brown Act requirements as Staff is requesting a consideration of a change to the order of business that's in Section 2 in the Rules of Procedure Resolution.
Currently, consideration of the consent calendar takes place after public hearings and presentation action discussion items. In the event that a consent calendar item is pulled for individual consideration, the staff author is required to remain in attendance until after other business items are completed to respond to questions or provide a presentation. In order to maintain meeting efficiency and have routine items handled earlier in the meeting, staff is recommending the Order of Business be revised to consider consent calendar items ahead of public hearings and presentation action discussion items.
So in closing, the attached resolution incorporates the new requirements established by SB 707, the hybrid meeting format and the disruption policy. It memorializes other SB 707 requirements that have already been city standard practice and it deletes these speaker card submission provisions that were in conflict with SB 708 and it proposes the revised order of business.
This concludes my presentation and I'm available for any questions.
Thank you. Are there any questions? Mr.
Means hi me
again for clarity Miss finger the suggestion for zoom is to only allow Telephonic and audio connections that's correct
That is correct the reason behind that being if individuals have video capability We don't know what we're going to see when they turn on their camera And that is the purpose behind it It's all those bad actors that take that privilege away from from others. That would not behave that way
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Question this will have a question mark a Picture you'll be worth a thousand words and if somebody comes in and presents to us with with a sign that in person that has an advantage in their communication ability over somebody that is remote potentially. Is there a mechanism for them to be able to provide, perhaps with some advance notice, materials to you that could be distributed to us at the council so that images that were not blatantly offensive in some way could be distributed and reviewed during that public comment time?
We can certainly make provisions for that we can certainly include something in the language on the website that says if you intend to Participate remotely, but do you have something visual that you would like to share with the council? Please submit that I would need to work with the city attorney just to ensure that the language is doesn't run afoul of of anything, but the intent is clear. You want to allow somebody that may have to participate remotely and wants to share something to be able to do so.
Would that be correct?
I have to have a question, Mark. Yes? Thank you if that's the possibility it answers my question. Thank
you. Certainly Mr. City Attorney did I
misspeak? No, that's perfectly fine. Yeah from an SB 707 perspective all we have to do as a minimum is the audio connection. If you want to have people who participate by audio who want to submit visual imagery they can be required to do that in advance To the clerk. Yeah.
Thank you.
Any other questions? Do we have any speakers?
I have no speaker cards on this item.
OK, thank you. I mean it's good to have more participation. I hope people still come down here to join us if there is a thing to discuss because it's always better in person and I hope the people that called up last time and bombed us with a whole bunch of hate speech just don't because that was a waste of time and terrible so...
I have a comment. For me, I think first of all part two reordering of the agenda to allow people to come and talk to us in a quicker time frame. I think it's important from a free speech standpoint from a community activity standpoint. I'm solidly behind that somebody has care issues either for children parents themselves can't sit for extended periods of time providing those lesser advantaged communities opportunities to come in and take less time away from the other things that they're doing, I think makes us a better community. So I'll start with that advocacy. I would very much like to see us put verbiage in this that allows somebody to submit a visual. Technology allows for people that perhaps are less mobile or don't have flexibility in their jobs or working nights to have a voice in our community And I would hate to see us, because of bad actors, limit somebody's free speech and impact on an important issue.
So I think it's reasonable to not allow people to be able to surprise us with something in the background. But allowing people to submit materials so they can talk to us about issues that are available, I think it makes us a leader access, in allowing the public to have access to participate in this process. And I think it's important. So
that's all I got. >>:No, that's a good point. A question about that is the reason for not allowing Zoom video? Is that based off of, I guess, the trend of people doing obscene things on video or are we just worried that could happen?
It is definitely the it could happen to us there have been other communities that have faced all sorts of Just not nice people. And so it really is a risk decision for the council It is not required under SB 707 and I think that that might have been something that Thank you very much. would not normally happen in a normal circumstance. If they had to come down in person and in public, they may not bring the same types of materials that they would show if they have that opportunity. So I do think it is a decision for the council. We can certainly amend that to allow people to do that but that risk does exist and so that's something that needs to be taken into consideration in that policy choice.
Yeah, I understand that. What Council Member Means was saying is basically if you have young kids at home and you're a single parent, you're not able to come down here to do anything. I mean it's hard enough when you have two parents at home and you're going to bail to come to a council meeting where your kids are freaking out at home so You're working two jobs
to support your family and you work at night. You can't be here. You have a physical or mobility Issue and you can't be here There's an important topic to talk about and your job requires you to travel you can't be here But sorry, you were doing great job of recapping but I got a
passion was on your side Yeah, it's helping you out what I meant is they want to hop back in go ahead carry on What I was talking about now is interrupted so You were
saying
how brilliant I am. What I was saying is that I would rather have people able to participate more than be worried about what one person could do on a screen that probably won't happen if they did click the thing off and that's it, but I think we'd be taking that away from people who want to participate Out of all the times we've had public comment, we've only had one time when we had those people show up and that was it. But we're able to...
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Exactly there was a time period in which that was a trend and frankly the discussions within the clerk community We're just waiting for who's gonna be the first victim
If I might mr. Mayor in the city attorney community when we've discussed this issue There is a debate between allowing somebody's First Amendment rights for their three minutes, and if they weave into the content or imagery matters that relate to your agenda item. That poses some potential risk that you cannot cut them off legally without violating their First Amendment rights.
On the other hand, there are other people who take the position and we have embedded in your rules an opportunity to enforce that provision about the comments. And everything has to relate to the subject matter jurisdiction of the council. And if it's a specific agenda item to that subject of the agenda item. And to the extent they start weaving away from that into imagery or hate speech, that does give an opportunity to then say you're violating the rules. You're disrupting the meeting and we're going to close your video portion. We can even mute them if we have to not throw them out. They can still watch the meeting But we do have some tools to use. If you wanted to have the video access, then there's a couple... We have to all be trained to move quickly to address the violation Indicate that they're violating the rule by having material unrelated to the jurisdiction of the council or the subject matter of the item and warn them.
And then you could mute their camera or stop their camera portion.
Right, if it's grossly obscene I feel like that's pretty easy to determine. If it's a gray area words are words and words can't hurt.
On that point it has happened in other jurisdictions as you know it didn't happen from an imagery standpoint here it just happened from a verbal standpoint here so the city clerk community and the city attorney community are kind of going into this with a lot of questions and concern. And so from a legal perspective, you can do exactly what's proposed, which is just the audio. If you want to be more inclusive, you can allow the video. And if you do that, we do have a tool in here that you can use if you use it carefully, quickly, and appropriately. And in terms of a First Amendment lawsuit brought against you for violating their rights, I can talk about that Off the record or outside of a public session, we have strategies to deal with that as well.
Sure.
You presented two options, one being audio and one being video. Is there a third option that is audio only but they can submit materials for us to be able to review?
Yes. And I think that's what you were indicating in the beginning. Yes. That is the compromise, I guess if you wanted it to do it that way.
And also if I may Mr. Mayor, every other city in the county is also not allowing video for these same concerns so we'd be a trailblazer if we wanted to open that door.
I don't think it's really trailblazing much, really. And other cities are also not as good as Moorpark. So that's one thing too. I feel
like the compromise of allowing them to submit something visual for us to print, to see, to have emailed to us in advance, I think that that's a great compromise. It doesn't put us or the public at any potential risk of seeing something obscene that nobody wants to see and that it still allows them to present what they want to present
Yeah, I understand. So it is a question for the sheriff's office if someone were to go on a zoom meeting and do something completely obscene Is that a crime? It's done at home, but it's not a public network
I suppose, Mayor, it depends on what that obscene matter is. If it's hate material and directed in a manner that would be in a violation of a hate crime we could proceed with an investigation on that but it all sort of depends if that helps answer your question.
I mean someone standing right here at the podium doing something absolutely obscene. I'm not going to say what that is you can all just figure out in your mind what that would look like. Okay, so this is what happened. Or that person on a Zoom computer doing the same exact thing. Are those both the same issues there in terms of crimes?
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It again it just depends on what? What that obscene nature is if you have some something like an indecent exposure. We would totally
exposure video versus podium here the same thing or is the Video, not a problem. I mean it's a problem but is it not like a crime?
It could
be a crime. Okay. Yes. Right. Alright so a person wouldn't do that at home on a camera versus here. I mean obviously that would be the same problem. The reason I'm saying is that I almost would rather people be on video because the people that called up last time, they didn't want to show their faces. They did not want to be on video and they said a whole bunch of stuff and they're just hiding behind audio only.
I'm OK either way. I'd rather people come down here and present here and be in person, but I personally would rather have someone that wants to be a part of our meeting that is at home. I rather have them on a computer where I can actually see their faces and recognize them in town than just the audio file only. But I don't like one way or the other more enough to argue more about that so I'm okay with >>:I have
a question. As far as submitting images or things ahead of time that could support their speech, what would be different about having a special procedure for this versus what already exists? Right? You can already submit a letter. You could already submit things ahead of time and then you could reference them when you speak, right?
Mr. Mayor, if I could offer, remembering those days, the other thing that's unique in this situation is we're talking about... First of all, I like the compromise when they submit their public comment. They're also submitting something that they would want distributed to. I think that's smart. The other thing that we're talking about is not just what they're showing. It's also potentially their background and then there's a pause between city staff and or us as participants where we have to somehow discern if that thing in content is considered to be, let's just call it something simple hate speech.
And if we don't have to have that option you know one of the things I would hope for staff now that we're having to re-explore this is to have statements that staff have prepared ready to talk about how the city does not condone hate speech in any manner, given that we as a council are supposed to refrain from engaging with people giving public comments. I know that would be just important to me and then that way you can make the discernment. You pause them You give them their information, it's off topic. It has nothing to do with the agenda item. You unmute them and if they continue then we can be sound in our action.
That would be my
ask. If I could answer on that point Mayor Pro Tem. When we had Zoom before and we did anticipate getting Zoom Bob We did have a, basically the mayor's council staff had a prepared statement ready to go for the mayor to interject and stop the speaker. Mute the speaker, interject make a statement and it had a lot of different things that you could say and it says the speakers requested cease uttering and using offensive words during this business meeting. The comments are inappropriate because they violate the rules a procedure for the conduct of the meeting and specifically sections 2.8 comments not on the agenda, not related to a matter within the subject matter jurisdiction council, not related to the agenda item it breaches the city's duty to keep a city workplace free from discrimination and harassment contrary to the values of the city and offensive.
Please speak respectfully on the matter And then you allow the speaker to recommence and then you repeat the admonition. And then at that point, you mute the person but you don't throw them out of the meeting because they can still watch the meeting. That was kind of what we did at that point. So something like that, we could all be ready to
do it. Right. That's easy. I'm just saying the amount of people that participated in our meetings over Zoom far outweighs the one time a person called up and said a whole bunch of stuff on the phone not on the video itself. My point was that I wouldn't want to push away the possibilities of better public engagement because we're worried that someone might say something mean on audio that I could cut off immediately and tell them to stop.
We did have the incidents of them appearing or participating in groups, and it appeared to be one right after the other. Yeah,
and they will if it's audio. And they kind of
migrated from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Right.
It was all audio only. It was not video. So the problem will still be there. If you want to call up and say the most God-awful, hateful things, you're going to call and do that, not go online and show your face and have your name up there.
Audio
is
a very different effect than visual. The audio is very different effect, it doesn't affect people as much as it does as a visual. You can close
your eyes if you don't like it.
I understand but by that time it's too late so to me I just think the compromise is great. It allows the audio which we have to do anyway and which we want to do right because we do want to allow everybody but it also allows them to present visual if they want to. We don't have to worry about The potential, yes maybe it would never happen but at least we know it will never happen.
It's fairly easy to change this down the road right? If we went with video as the option and we have issues we could change it
I'd rather err on that and change it if we have to because we're worried about something that is... Now, when I say that, it's probably going to happen.
My concern with the path that we're headed towards in this discussion Not everybody and it's getting less and less but not everybody has access to a camera. Not everybody... I don't want to... You don't have to though, it could be either. Right so what I'm saying is if we're worried about people calling in and hiding behind telephone only by allowing for live video, we can't control what's in their background but if I'm going to hide behind not being on video and say terrible things into the phone Having the option to be on video didn't actually help me.
Or help us, I should say.
My concern is that... You can mandate a background that is a neutral background on Zoom. You could do that too if you really want to get into it. Yeah,
if I could just add, obviously in full support of First Amendment rights, I think the distinction here is if for example we were the only city that were allowing images to be displayed. We've become more of a target because we allow that And then we also have to, not that I want to put my mind set in the mentality of these individuals that we've had experience with. But their intention is to do things that leave no pun intended a lasting image and potentially become a part of the public record and that's what the intent is so whether it's Even if it only happens once, it's one of those things that then can be captured and then reposted. And that's what the intention was at that time. They take even that split second, they have it posted here and then they use it on social media everywhere.
That I think is a city that we can do to distance ourself from becoming a platform for hate of any kind because those are the kinds of individuals that are going to use the platform. I don't think that we're hurting public speech with this compromise that you suggested, which is great. And also not potentially paying a target on our back where we're in a place for something hateful to have to happen and then we took action. When we have at least reasonable...
We can reasonably anticipate that some bad actor is going to make the most of the opportunity while it exists because
it has happened. That could happen here too, and hate speech is subjective.
I agree. I just think it's much less likely because as we know for whatever reason anonymity in all forms Promotes a particular kind of behavior and people even on social media, even when they're not anonymous. People behave differently because they have the perception of anonymity. And so that's just something I agree we have to comply with the audio piece. I feel great with staff that we were prepared for how we would respond to that. I just again personally caution being the only jurisdiction that allows for that and then we become We're forced to take action after something hateful is done and that's the last thing I'll say is that it's not a big deal like for the most part, you know, we're Sadly but we're accustomed to those actions But for people that are forced to witness that is something that could have a lasting effect And I just you have to weigh Is it that much more important?
What more are we gaining because they could have already provided the image, they could have already provided the written portion. What is it that we are giving versus what we are potentially losing?
There's always an opportunity for bad actors in any situation but no one can Shoot us through the video screen. You can only say things that's about it I'm more worried about I'm not worried anything on this It's not that big of a problem really I just like to argue in general is like it's fun But I just think that we're focusing so much on The very very minority of one thing that could happen that could be bad possibly to hear right before we shut the thing down, but we're forgetting about the fact that The whole point of this law is to bring in more public participation. And I can see that as a family town, I see a lot of people that can't come to council meetings and I know it's all...I say hey you should come to our council meeting. Oh I can't because I got kids at home.
I have this. I can get out there and I think it's better public participation if there's a person on the video that I can recognize and I can see them in person. And could someone use that for bad things? Yeah they could do that I'm sure but This is Moorpark too. I mean, I don't see that being an issue. If it was an issue we can go ahead and change that in the future but...
That's all I'll say. If everyone is for whatever that compromise is then I'm happy with that too just to move on so...
And mayor just one thing I'll just mention is obviously as we move forward with this and its current proposal Obviously our city and other communities are monitoring how much public engagement will occur in this process and any issues that may come up So if there's something that we need to re-evaluate again the future
We won't be able to reevaluate that because the public engagement is just from audio. So if you have no public engagement We're not going to say that, let's go and put the video on so more people will join it. Because now we're back to my point now of now more people will do bad things if that's all we think about. So the way to do it logically would be to open it up and then start restricting it if it becomes a thing or other cities start seeing that happen.
And then we can react to that too. I'm focusing on the positives of this and not the minute possibilities of a negative that I don't think is even that big of a problem in the first place.
>>:Understood. Thank
you. Not to beat a dead horse, it's not the people of Moorpark I'm worried about. It's the people outside of Moorpark abusing a system that is now available to them. That's fine. But as I said, visual is different than not... No, very different. Seeing something is very different than hearing something. In my opinion, sure. I
was too worried.
I move that we adopt the resolution revising the city council rules and procedures with the addition of allowing people to email or to submit any type of visuals as they always have been able to do along with being able to call in but no video
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Second motion in a second. I'll need a roll call vote
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion in a second. I'll need a roll call
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I'm too tired to go on that one Okay Next up is consent. We haven't pulled anything so I'll entertain a motion. I move to approve consent
Second.
We have a motion and a second, we'll need a roll call vote.
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second, we'll need a roll call
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Next item is 11 ordinances there are none followed by Item 12 closed session Mr. Galgahanna
Thank You mayor staff requests to recess to close session for items 12 a B and C
I'll move to recess Recess the closed session all in favor Thank you and good night Moorpark