Ojai City Council Special Meeting

BodyCity Council
MeetingSpecial Meeting
Date📅 November 4, 2025

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ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.590:00

Okay. Welcome all to the Tuesday, November 4th special council meeting for the City of Ojai. Roll call, please.

Roll call — called by Andy Gilman
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Thanks, Mayor. Mayor Gilman. Here. Mayor Pro Tem Lang. Here. Council Member Rule. Here. Council Member Whitman. Here. Council Member May. Here.
ElectedKim MangCouncilmembervoiceprint 0.760:15

And

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ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.590:16

would you please lead us in the pledge? Of course.

ElectedKim MangCouncilmembervoiceprint 0.760:17

Welcome all. Please rise as you are able. Ready to begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.590:31

And also an approval of the agenda.

ElectedKim MangCouncilmembervoiceprint 0.760:42

I'll move to approve it.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.590:43

Second that. Any objections? Great. And I have one

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.590:47

public comment. Larry Steingold, please.

ElectedLeslie RuleCouncilmembervoiceprint 0.800:51

Imagine that.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.590:52

Thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:53

Yeah, great. Welcome. Thank you very much, Larry Steingold, citizen. Thank you for having and doing this. For reasons I probably don't know and probably reasons I do know. For a new attorney, I think that's a good thing and I think it's a time for the town to city to move on. Regarding what everybody's concerned about here occasionally, more often than not, is the Brown Act violations and things that have taken place, could have taken place, might have taken place, whatever.

I hopefully that you give the new attorney a prime directive to now and going forward next City Council and so on that they truly prevent Any violations, and if it persists, they actually go forward and do whatever legally they have to do to enforce, to become a snitch, whatever they have to do legally, go to the DA, because that's their job. And I don't think the city can afford the aggravation, the money, The divisiveness and all the nonsense, which goes back, now goes to recording the closed meeting, which is on the agenda, which is a priority, but probably at the bottom of the priority list. But because there's so many things on the agenda, maybe we could slip it in to have it talked about and discussed.

And just either put it on the agenda, vote for it, or not vote for it, but let's have an open discussion about recording the closed session meetings. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.

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ElectedLeslie RuleCouncilmembervoiceprint 0.802:34

Tangle. Could I just one follow up with Larry? Yeah. So is your request, and I guess we can't get into a conversation just a yes or no, is your request that we put it on the agenda for discussion regardless of how the vote goes?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:50

Yes, because it's got to get voted on one way or the other. OK. Yeah. I mean, you can't just not put it on the agenda. So not to talk about it, just have it hang there.

ElectedLeslie RuleCouncilmembervoiceprint 0.802:57

OK, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.592:59

One thing, just one quick point that I'll read from the closed session. It's on everyone's agenda, but just a line for our public. If the city council appoints a city attorney, approval of that contract will come in a future open session agenda item. Accordingly, both public employment and public employment government code sections are noticed on this agenda. Mr. Montgomery, is there anybody online? No, Mayor. We do not have anyone on Zoom right now. Wonderful. We will adjourn to the closed session.

Mr. Harvey, please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:49

Yes, Mayor, thank you. We're going to report out from the closed session today, city employment and public official appointment. City Council interviewed two city attorney firms, and the City Council has directed me, as City Manager, to contact Alice Shire and Winder to advise them that the City Council would like to move forward with them as their city attorney firm and bringing forward a contract for the City Council to review and approve at a near-term City Council meeting when is convenient for both the city and for the firm.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.594:31

Thank you very much. With that, we will close the session.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:34

Thank

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposedvoiceprint 0.594:35

you.